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06-03-2009, 05:49 AM | #26 | |
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But...that we is not I. I do my best not to participate in that particular dream, but I can't push hard enough to change it by myself...which is why I'm here blathering on while I wait for the plan to emerge. :>) |
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06-03-2009, 07:16 PM | #27 | |
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06-04-2009, 01:44 PM | #28 |
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"They all need to wake the f--k up and realize that they are 100% responsible for everything that they attract into their reality weather it is pleasant or not."
"IMO this is flatly not true. No one is 100% responsible for reality. It's a co-creative process, and everyone contributes their bit of vision and energy to it. I refuse to be held responsible for events which are totally beyond my control, nor would I pin that on you" Quote: "or, the consciousness of society is a manifestation of the intent of the Illuminati, NWO, PTB...astral overlords, matrix keepers, whatever we want to call them." "Perhaps, but logic would tell me that it is the many that manifest the few not the few that manifest the many" **** This is about Obama‘s USE of hidden hypnosis techniques…. This does not mean that Obama is AWARE of the depth that the initial thread starter article speaks of., for we might ask, just how much of his speeches are written entirely by himself? Most certainly, he has studied up a bit & become aware of intentional mannerisms while presenting himself as any person in public speaking would be inclined to look into….how to project your voice, timing, how to hold your body, exude confidence, that sort of thing. Who ever it is that is writing his speeches, that is the person that needs examination for this is a specialty field all its own. A vast field, a science, wherein techniques ARE used and wherein propaganda does arise as its aim is to compel, persuade, convince... people in highly paid positions to consciously do so, even behind the scenes propaganda experts to cause global influence (duh). It’s certainly common and prevalent that people do not tend to want to accept how easily they are influenced. But, if you call yourself “awake”… then naturally, there are some things that you have awakened to, meaning that you admit (let in) that you have been duped. Whether it was by the FEW utilizing a Science, by deliberate intent or not, You now take responsibility for your part but it errs to take responsibility for those that duped you or for the rest of their audience. You can stop the infiltration into your own “reality” life but you will continue to see its prevalence affecting vast numbers of others. The initial cut n paste above in my post here… perhaps could start a new thread... this reality creating b'ness. |
06-04-2009, 02:21 PM | #29 |
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I thought he did do some of his own speech writing...nevertheless, all the politicos are under the reign of their handlers now. They hammer the same points over and over while they try to avoid risking any off the cuff remark. We could blame the media for driving them to that point, but really it's the electorate who's not smart enough think for themselves. Quote:
And geez...the guy's a politician, from Chicago no less. One shouldn't even have to be "awake" to know there's probably a bottle of snake oil in his pocket. Last edited by sun-toonŽ; 06-05-2009 at 02:39 AM. |
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06-14-2009, 01:05 AM | #32 |
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If a politician made this kind of speech today, do you think he would be accused of using mass hypnosis techniques and NLP to get his message across? Would it matter ? A.. |
02-17-2010, 12:37 AM | #33 | |
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I'm looking over the 60 page document again, and I'm struck by a paragraph on page 8: "Dr. Erickson discovered while working as a therapist, that he could hide therapeutic hypnosis within the normal content of an inconspicuous conversation with the patient, and avoid much of the patients conscious resistance that normally accompanied hypnotherapy... Dr. Erickson realized the subconscious mind was always listening, and understood better than anyone before how to access it, and implant suggestions into it. What Dr. Erickson did was figure out how to put people into trance and hypnotize them and implant suggestions with seemingly normal conversation. He discovered that people could achieve this heightened state of hyper-suggestibility without the traditional difficultly-induced coma-like state traditionally associated with hypnosis. Th[r]ough his pioneering understanding, he was able to do the same and much more often with simple plays on words and embedded meanings in a single sentence." Plays on words and embedded meanings... I think it behooves us to be aware of this stuff. Here is a YouTube video on the topic: |
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02-17-2010, 12:46 AM | #34 | |
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02-17-2010, 07:05 AM | #35 | |
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That's the briefing where they show him the JFK assassination from an angle that no-one has seen before and is given his agenda. A.. [with apologies to Bill Hicks - one of my heros] |
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02-17-2010, 08:25 PM | #36 |
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Having qualified in the use of Milton Erickson Hypnosis and N.L.P. I am very aware of these techniques being in commonplace use. Adverts being a no 1.
The weather forecasters are trained to how to project, catch the attention of the viewer. Its now standard procedure for all who deal with the public, sales personnel etc. Its just the way it is, no big deal. The egoic part of the mind will find evidence that "proves" its favorite point of view correct and ignore contrary facts. Thats a scientific fact, not a point of view. There is some info on this written on the "ego what is it? how to transcend" thread. In the words of Eckhart Tolle author of "the Power of Now" "Dont take your thoughts too seriously" Chris |
02-17-2010, 09:18 PM | #37 |
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People have been bamboozled by a wide variety of techniques and not just via politicians. Why single them out? They are doing thier jobs in the way they have been educated and conditioned to do them. If I learned NLP why would it be wrong for me to use that to make my points more effectively?
Its the same with occult symbology. Michael Tsarion repeatedly makes the excellent point that these are tools that we can all use, not just the bad guys. We dont want to go outlawing these things - I see that as a fear of the unknown based reaction anyway. Its up to people to wake up and its up to those who have awakened to help with the awakening. Is this not what we are about ? A.. |
02-17-2010, 09:45 PM | #39 |
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With respect Seashore its an assumption that people are being bamboozled by poiticians.
They have the same information that you have and on that information you form a conclusion as they do. If you accused them of being bamboozled they would reply can you be sure you are not being bamboozled? Im not taking side just aware of the way the human mind works as I have been trained to be. A thought only has the value you personally give it. Some will agree some will disagree thats the way it is in this world. Im saying the use of N.L.P. is no big deal. Im not saying the end result is no big deal. Every tool should be used with integrity but who am I to judge what is integrity in this case. Im not living in America so I have no opinion on the politics. No opinion on the politics in UK either. Just live my life to the best of my ability. Thats it. Regards Chris |
02-17-2010, 09:50 PM | #41 |
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Been going on for ages. In the beginning it was just intuative (charisma)...It is clear to me that Obama is a master at it. Ming dontchya knaa...
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02-17-2010, 10:08 PM | #42 | |
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you are correct. N.L.P. just copied what was already in existence, modeled it, made a fortune from teaching it. Chris |
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02-17-2010, 10:11 PM | #43 |
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02-17-2010, 10:25 PM | #45 | |
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voice, which to me, is mesmerizing to people. At least I find it to be mesmerizing... This, of course, is not a choice on his part. It's just his voice. But I think people need to think about these things. We need to learn to focus on the substance of a speech. I think educating ourselves about these things gives us a tool we can use to help us be discerning. |
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02-17-2010, 10:27 PM | #46 | |
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02-17-2010, 10:30 PM | #47 | |
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I did notice when I searched for the YouTube video that I posted here that it appears that NLP is taught as a positive thing to be used to increase our brain power. Is that true? |
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02-17-2010, 10:31 PM | #48 |
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is very broad based. In the beginning the originators looked at all the therapists that were ultra successful to see if it was just them or could it be learned and taught. They found that yes the technique could be learned and taught, When I was practicing I cured people of phobias and all kinds of malfunctions of the mind using NLP. So yes it can be used positively much good can come of it. People greatly lacking in confidence were taught how to project them selves using NLP. Brain power can be enhanced. In therapy the ego will sabotage the "cure" as there is massive pay value in being a victim, the center of attention - co-dependent. So embedded suggestions are made to the subconscious un tampered with by the ego. end results are implied. The populous may be fooled by politicians using NLP but all politicians use it so it balances out. Hope this helps. Chris |
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02-17-2010, 10:54 PM | #50 |
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If any of you have use subliminal programing for fast reading, self improvement ,etc. you can begin to notice how subliminal programing is use on news programs like CNN. Yes after turning my TV off now for over a year I can tell you I was hooked and glue to the TV and news shows. Politicians are learning to use the same methods use by commercial ads to influence your subconscious mind. The subliminal messages are very effective . Obama's entourage used the campaign money very well. Over one year later is more of the same, politicians are just that, politicians .
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