What do you think about Apollo 20?

[371]

I'd like to hear your opinions on the Apollo 20/William Rutledge story.

You can find out more about it HERE

Also, the EBE video HERE

I personally think it's a great story, it is indisputable that there IS something on the moon in as shown in some of the pictures. Some aspects of this case have been undeniably faked (This video) but I have this nagging feeling that there is more to this story than meets the eye. Maybe the 80/20 rule?? But until I see more evidence, I believe most of the story is at best disinfo.

Your thoughts??

[petesm22]

you want to see things on the moon?go to theorionconspiracy.com ,there are pictures and a video.

Originally Posted by petesm22

you want to see things on the moon?go to theorionconspiracy.com ,there are pictures and a video.

Also www.thelivingmoon.com

I myself find that this site looses credability from the off as the first picture you see shows whats supposed to be a reactor in the Aristarchus Crater which does look convincing untill you view the image in its correct orientation that is.

The image they show gives the impression that there is a raised structure but when viewed as you would see it (rotate 180 degrees as the horizon falls away bellow the crater) it appears to be concave. Check the high res colour image they have of the whole moon and you will see.

Why the need to do this??

Anything is possible and ive seen supposed footage 20 so what the hell, ill say yeah!

[feeler]

Originally Posted by 371

I'd like to hear your opinions on the Apollo 20/William Rutledge story.

You can find out more about it HERE

Also, the EBE video HERE

I personally think it's a great story, it is indisputable that there IS something on the moon in as shown in some of the pictures. Some aspects of this case have been undeniably faked (This video) but I have this nagging feeling that there is more to this story than meets the eye. Maybe the 80/20 rule?? But until I see more evidence, I believe most of the story is at best disinfo.

Your thoughts??

Puzzling. The soil was intact, with no indication of disturbance, only a couple of feet away from the rocket exhaust.

[feeler]

Did someone turn on the rocket engine in the pic below?

[371]

Another part of it that I find suspicious is on the EBE video, the supposed Russian cosmonaut is juggling around a camera. Does NOT look like it is in a zero-g environment. My guess is that they planned on slowing down that portion of film to make it appear to be done in zero-g.

The question remains: Why would someone go to this much trouble to hoax this? Is it to call attention to this object on the moon? As far as I've seen, I haven't come across any researchers coming across this anomaly prior to this story coming out, though many have confirmed it is in fact a genuine lunar anomaly.

Could this 'retiredafb' guy have come across this object in his own research and constructed a elaborate hoax around it, at cost of great time and expense? If so, why?

Originally Posted by SplatPantZ

Also www.thelivingmoon.com
Check the high res colour image they have of the whole moon and you will see.

Yes amazing image what? Better than anything NASA has shown

Now please explain to me why Aristarchus glows BLUE at different times...

Originally Posted by zorgon

Yes amazing image what? Better than anything NASA has shown

Now please explain to me why Aristarchus glows BLUE at different times...

Yes it is an interesting image Zorgon and i can't explain to you as i don't know, but why not just show it as it is?

Is that not deception?

[captainlockheed]

Luca Scatamburlo posted a thread on this in the early days of Avalon

I have studied the video and although i believe it is a hoax, it is a very expensive hoax and you have to ask yourself why ? why do it?

anyway an observation i did make and found interesting was when the camera points out of the LEM window on the surface of the Moon set/stage you can see a Lunokhod rover. I'ts main mission was to provide accurate landing data for a lunar lander and even carry a cosmonaut.

So a lot of thought has gone into this hoax it is there to distract us and stop us looking at something else, but what?

[BeaTnik-BandiT]

Originally Posted by 371

I'd like to hear your opinions on the Apollo 20/William Rutledge story.

You can find out more about it HERE

Also, the EBE video HERE

I personally think it's a great story, it is indisputable that there IS something on the moon in as shown in some of the pictures. Some aspects of this case have been undeniably faked (This video) but I have this nagging feeling that there is more to this story than meets the eye. Maybe the 80/20 rule?? But until I see more evidence, I believe most of the story is at best disinfo.

Your thoughts??

Hi 371, i saw these last year, and that made me ponder for a while....

The answer resides IN BETWEEN:
This Vid is a HOAX with a message of TRUTH hiding underneath:
- The majority of viewers will see this as a perfect example of low-quality BS and will dismiss it.
- The persipicacious and trained mind will get the encrypted message.

Finally, the PTBs know they can escape anytime with the TRUTH as long as the majority says it's a HOAX.

(By the way, i wasn't talking about me, just making my point...)

salute.

[BeaTnik-BandiT]

Originally Posted by feeler

Did someone turn on the rocket engine in the pic below?

sorry, pic missing ?

[371]

Originally Posted by Pegasus-pUnK

The answer resides IN BETWEEN:
This Vid is a HOAX with a message of TRUTH hiding underneath:
- The majority of viewers will see this as a perfect example of low-quality BS and will dismiss it.
- The persipicacious and trained mind will get the encrypted message.

Finally, the PTBs know they can escape anytime with the TRUTH as long as the majority says it's a HOAX.
salute.

That's pretty much what I'm thinking too!

[feeler]

Originally Posted by Pegasus-pUnK

sorry, pic missing ?

Don't know for how long these HUGE pics will stay up... NASA is playing games; blast marks were added underneath in a museum, yet in the official pic, the soil underneath was undisturbed on the 'moon.'

[feeler]

In one pic there is a ditch underneath the rocket engine exhaust. In another pic there is no ditch underneath the rocket engine exhaust.

[captainlockheed]

those photo's are not of the same LEM a brief look at the pix confirms that

e.g. compare the main engine shutoff sensors sticking out of the ground next to the pads

how the soil looks, i could go on and on

[captainlockheed]

The answer resides IN BETWEEN:
This Vid is a HOAX with a message of TRUTH hiding underneath:
- The majority of viewers will see this as a perfect example of low-quality BS and will dismiss it.
- The persipicacious and trained mind will get the encrypted message.

So what do you feel IS the encrypted message in those videos ?

[BeaTnik-BandiT]

Originally Posted by captainlockheed

So what do you feel IS the encrypted message in those videos ?

Well, my humble guess is that there is something going on on the dark side of the moon: Human Bases, Alien Bases, structures, remnants, whatever.

Each one of us has to do his own research.

Your guess will be as good as mine.

take care.

[captainlockheed]

An Interview with Apollo 19 Commander

http://www.alienseekernews.com/artic...commander.html

Luca Scatamburlo writes

We know the Apollo 19/20 case is a jungle composed by truth and fake; there are contradictory aspects and some misleading data, but at the same time very interesting videos never seen before, official evidence of symmetrical (artificial?) objects resting on the lunar surface, some detailed information on Space exploration and Space flight, and an historical context where to read this astonishing story. My opinion is we are facing some kernels of truth, very important for the mankind's future.