Causal reality

[mudra]

The following was mailed to me by Rareheart.
I submit it to you .
I am sure Rareheart although he can't post here for the moment will be pleased to read your comments on this.

As you will see the subject is quite interesting.
I have my own ideas about it but I'll let you give yours first.

Kindness
mudra

Everything starts with consciousness.That is, consciousness is the ground of all being. In this view, consciousness imposes "downward causation." In other words, our free will is real. When we act in the world we really are acting with causal power. This view does not deny that matter also has causal potency—it does not deny that there is causal power from elementary particles upward, so there is upward causation—but in addition it insists that there is also downward causation. It shows up in our creativity and acts of free will, or when we make moral decisions. In those occasions we are actually witnessing downward causation by consciousness.

Amit Goswani

OK...with that "said"...
Matter has it's own 'causal potential'...right?
It's "cause" is directed by the collective consciouness, which lays out a set of ground rules for perceived reality to conform to. For instance...if I randomly shuffle a deck of cards...each card has the potential to be any card in the deck...from a quantum physics standpoint...right?...hehehe follow me here....lol.
Consciousness has a downward causal potential too...so my thoughts/consciouness have an influence on that deck of cards. If you think about how many people are trying to influence the turn of a card, at any given moment, the numbers are staggering...right this instant there are untold numbers of casinos on this planet...each one has numerous games of chance which involve people trying to influence cards...through intent. Each time I turn a card from a deck, it has many influential factors playing against each other to determine its final revelation...the most influential or most powerful intent should "win"?...right?
Imagine if I became so powerfully influential that every card dealt to me was a member of the royal flush family (I am a poker fan...royal flush beats any other hand in poker...just in case you don't play poker) No matter who shuffled the deck, or how long they shuffled...no matter the circumstances...each card dealt to me was one of the five required to complete the royal flush...each would always be the same suit of course too. (the "flush" part).
If this little 'thought experiment' were fact...how do you think people would react?
Would they listen to me when I explained that I was manipulating matter because I understand how...or would they kill me, because they are afraid of me?

[14 Chakras]

You would probably be killed eventually if you played enough high stakes games. People would being to think you were a cheat.

For me, I would listen to you, but I would not play poker with you.

Forgive me 14 Chakras but why would you take the passive approach and listen. If it were me I'd influence the cards/conciousness myself as I try to do everyday. I do believe in this premise and I will give you an example:

I tried to search for someone from my past last week on the internet that I hadn't heard from in 27 years. I found a city/state but didn't want to subscribe for a phone number or email address. One week later this person called me! Coincidence, I don't think so.

[brutus35]

Goodness Gracious "Mudra",
We just Love Ya..but the answer is simple, the PTB or other significant entity,
will either kidnap you or buy you off, and use your abilities to create more wars and disorder, under the guise that your abilites will (of course) help to ensure universal peace..
As Always,
Thanks for sharing

[14 Chakras]

Originally Posted by sleepingnomore

Forgive me 14 Chakras but why would you take the passive approach and listen. If it were me I'd influence the cards/conciousness myself as I try to do everyday. I do believe in this premise and I will give you an example:

I tried to search for someone from my past last week on the internet that I hadn't heard from in 27 years. I found a city/state but didn't want to subscribe for a phone number or email address. One week later this person called me! Coincidence, I don't think so.

Hi Sleeping No more,

Yes, I agree, it is a key realization to see that we are consciously creating our realities and it is wonderful to see this in action in our lives and your life .

I was answering the question Mudra posed: Would they listen to me or kill me? Mainly I was kidding around... but of course, I would listen and am listening...

I believe that together, we have created the problems on our planet because we have collectively agreed that this planet does not have enough abundance to support us all. This is purely an illusion and when we see the reality that the earth itself is an out picturing of our own consciousness, we will be able to co-create the world as it is meant to be, total abundance for all of it's inhabitants.

However, the first step to getting their in my opinion, is getting ourselves into harmony with our inner voice, the still small voice inside of us, and realizing that the higher will is our own true will and will provide us with exactly what we need in a way that benefits the rest of creation...

[Carmen]

The closer we are to "cause" , the more removed we are from the manipulations of the PTB, we are vibrating faster and would not come across those who would harm us. They would not "see" us. We are free to create the reality we desire and I for one do not "create' meeting any "controllers" in my reality.

I think of something or someone and I manifest it, in a faster and faster timeline. So Be It

Love

Carmen

[Anchor]

Originally Posted by mudra

Imagine if I became so powerfully influential that every card dealt to me was ...

Those who master space and time to the extent that you could do these things at will, would no doubt have mastered the wisdom to understand what is and is not appropriate.

Matt 17:20 "... If ye have faith as a grain of mustard seed, ye shall say unto this mountain, Remove hence to yonder place; and it shall remove; and nothing shall be impossible unto you..."

However, your synthesis of love, wisdom and power that enables you to do this will understand that the correct position of the mountain has very likely already been achieved and that to move it would be somewhat mischievous! (Albeit hugely impressive!)

The freewill of other-selves ought not be compromised. To do so on any large scale simply nails your colours to the mast of the dark ones. Additionally, it seems to me that simply performing/demonstrating miracles for someone who has not yet worked this stuff out for themselves is a gross infringement, since you are denying them the opportunity to come to the understanding themselves and take the learning steps necessary to do it themselves.

A..

[mudra]

My answer to Rareheart's question was this:

"Now to answer your question the very fact that you have set it within a game
where there are winners and loosers would tend to make me think that they
would kill you for being an everlasting winner .
But would you bring your same power to the people of some dry land and
summon rain to fall there so that they could then be fed they will praise you
as a god for your deeds."

And beyond this this quote comes to mind:

This is how you should contemplate. The world is an idea in the mind to which the word world has been attached. Beyond this idea is the mystery of beingness. But it's not possible to free people from their attachment to the idea--to that which blinds them to the reality--without appropriate methods. So you should tread the path of perfect giving, of patience, energy, meditation, and wisdom. Yet while following these activities, you should remain aware that the world is illusory. It is for the sake of those who do not know that you engage in dynamic and vigorous work and also in meditation and one-pointed attention. Understanding that without wisdom you can do nothing for others, you remain in the perfection of wisdom, which is the awareness that what you are doing is both essential and illusory.

-Prajnaparamita

Whatever path you choose make it a learning process and keep enough detachment and wisdom so as to make you sure that the ego's complexities do'nt override you .

Kindness
mudra

[mudra]

Some after thoughts as regard Rarehear's little ridle ..

If they kill you they will relieve you from a too much predictable game that would soon become boring and that will put an end to the game.
If they listen to you and you teach them how to do the same the game will also end by lack of odds.
Either way all you will have lost is a game but at the same time you will have won an opportunity to keep going on the wider purpose of growing in consciousness and transcending all games

Kindness
mudra

[J_rod7]

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There are certain Masters of Spiritual Consciousness among us presently on the Earth.

Such ones will guide receptive ones into "right inspiration for right action, " as the need arises. Such ones will not, however, make themselves known among the general lot of Humankind, for reasons which should be obvious. Nor would such ones ever engage in "games of Chance," again for obvious reasons.

Consciousness itself is a Quality of the entire Universe and every "thing" within. The entire Universe is the living embodiment of the Spirit of the Creation. We each Human Beings are all Spirits come out from Creation Spirit as individual expressions of free Will. We Spirits from Creations Spirit always remain in connection with that from which we are come. That the Spirit which we are, is endowed with the SAME creative powers and abilities as the Creation Spirit itself, gives the Human the potential to mastery over the Material world.

The current chaos in the world, and the Gross Global Over-Population, is a result of the IGNORANCE among all the Human Beings, who in their Materialistic Collective Consciousness have lost ATTUNEMENT with Nature, and have forgotten that their True Life is the life of the Spirit.

To leave all BELIEFS behind in the Quest for Truth, will bring such abilities to more people, as these are INBORN capabilities which, sad to say, are among those forgotten when people are exposed to the "Standard" education process.

There is no Magic in any of the psychic abilities, this is in accordance with Natural Laws.

The Quest for Truth leads to Knowledge not found in books. Knowledge combined with Experience leads to Wisdom and Spiritual Growth.

Peace

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[burgundia]

How all this resonates with me!!!
yes, i am manifesting my reality faster and faster.....things or events that I want in my life just appear....And I am more and more convinced that I have this power....

[rhythm]

Originally Posted by Carmen

The closer we are to "cause" , the more removed we are from the manipulations of the PTB, we are vibrating faster and would not come across those who would harm us. They would not "see" us. We are free to create the reality we desire and I for one do not "create' meeting any "controllers" in my reality.

I think of something or someone and I manifest it, in a faster and faster timeline. So Be It

Love

Carmen

dear Camen if i vibrate much faster
im goin to disapear up my own @@@@
i seriously belive now that i will become invisible feels a litle odd while its hapenin tho .....

[rhythm]

Originally Posted by J_rod7

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There are certain Masters of Spiritual Consciousness among us presently on the Earth.

Such ones will guide receptive ones into "right inspiration for right action, " as the need arises. Such ones will not, however, make themselves known among the general lot of Humankind, for reasons which should be obvious. Nor would such ones ever engage in "games of Chance," again for obvious reasons.

Consciousness itself is a Quality of the entire Universe and every "thing" within. The entire Universe is the living embodiment of the Spirit of the Creation. We each Human Beings are all Spirits come out from Creation Spirit as individual expressions of free Will. We Spirits from Creations Spirit always remain in connection with that from which we are come. That the Spirit which we are, is endowed with the SAME creative powers and abilities as the Creation Spirit itself, gives the Human the potential to mastery over the Material world.

The current chaos in the world, and the Gross Global Over-Population, is a result of the IGNORANCE among all the Human Beings, who in their Materialistic Collective Consciousness have lost ATTUNEMENT with Nature, and have forgotten that their True Life is the life of the Spirit.

To leave all BELIEFS behind in the Quest for Truth, will bring such abilities to more people, as these are INBORN capabilities which, sad to say, are among those forgotten when people are exposed to the "Standard" education process.

There is no Magic in any of the psychic abilities, this is in accordance with Natural Laws.

The Quest for Truth leads to Knowledge not found in books. Knowledge combined with Experience leads to Wisdom and Spiritual Growth.

Peace

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Horay and HALILULIA to this information

great thred too ....