No Food - No Fear

[bashi]

It has been claimed that the edenic “fall” of Mankind was in fact a reengineering of human DNA from originally 12 strands down to only 2 strands. This had supposedly been done long time ago by selfish Aliens in order to dumb humans down and make them more easy controllable.
The "fall“ seemingly had one very important consequence: The need to eat in order to sustain the body. This struggle to survive and the fear of death might be very intentionally implemented into human minds.
In this way a specific mindset had been established, manifesting itself as a fight for food and survival. It included the perception of anything unknown as threatening and programmed an instinctive out-lashing at it.
Here a quote from The Wave by Laura Knight-Jadczyk (The Wave) and from Castaneda (Castaneda, 1998, pp. 213-220):

`In order to keep us obedient and
meek and weak, the predators
engaged themselves in a stupendous maneuver -
stupendous, of course, from the
point of view of a fighting
strategist. A horrendous maneuver
from the point of view of those
who suffer it: They gave us their
mind! Do you hear me? The
predators give us their mind,
which becomes our mind. The
predators' mind is baroque,
contradictory, morose, filled with the fear of being
discovered any minute now. ...

“I know that even though you have
never suffered hunger... you have
food anxiety, which is none other
than the anxiety of the predator
who fears that any moment now
its maneuver is going to be
uncovered and food is going to be
denied. Through the mind,
which, after all, is their mind,
the predators inject into the
lives of human beings whatever
is convenient for them. And they
ensure, in this manner, a degree
of security to act as a buffer
against their fear.'"

Thus the struggle for survival and the reptilian mindset of aggressive competition for resources came into existence.

The result is a divided human society, which can therefore be much more easily influenced and controlled. It’s the absolute implementation of the “Divide and Rule”–concept. As a consequence a lot of energy is directed into the subject of ensuring the availability of food during the expected crisis of this transitional period, named 2012. The underlying fear of non-availability of food is a prevalent theme in many threads on this forum. It is this fear that can force us to do the unthinkable in case of emergency, based on the survival logic:

”Its either this person or me; its either them or us”

This is when the friendly - but unprepared - neighbour suddenly becomes “the enemy” or competitor in case of a food crisis. But however good the Plan A of preparation is, it might in the end face the inevitable: The running out of food! So where is the Plan B?
You might say that there can be no other plan, but I say:

YES, THERE IS A PLAN B!

The Plan B is to switch the bodily system back into the ancient, edenic mode of energy procurement, which requires much less or no food at all. It can be described as a conscious activation of your dormant DNA template, which is your divine - but forgotten - heritage.

You will say: “This is impossible!”

Well, you might be right, but let’s first have a brief look at history:
Throughout history there are many reports of people that have lived without eating anything: Therese Neumann, Marthe Robin, Victoria Hecht, Dominica Lazza, Nicolas of the Fluehe, Maria Furtner …etc. You can fill many pages with names of people that reportedly lived without food.

You might say that these were either fraudsters or saints, but that will not suffice in this thread.

Today, people which live without food are not any more called saints, but Breatharians. Because of the ongoing shift in consciousness on Earth, more and more people discover for themselves that they do not need to eat:
In China this is a well known phenomena called BIGU. It’s a part of Qigong, which is practised by many in China. It is estimated that several 10.000´s are in BIGU at present in China. They have founded BIGU societies and the people there are at different levels of BIGU, from a very reduced food intake to only few nuts/fruits to diluted fruit juices to only plain water intake.
Here pictures of a conference given by one of these societies:

All participants are on BIGU:






Here a picture of a family in BIGU for years, with the boy conceived and born while being in BIGU:




Somebody before and after 2 years of BIGU:





An australian lady, called Jasmuheen, is promoting and teaching how to become a Breatharian. Several thousand people in Australia and Germany are living today only on liquid and air.

In India this phenomena is well known and accepted. A Jain monk after 1 year on water (sitting, left side):

Nonsense, fraud, charade ..etc? Yes or No?

Well, I didn’t want to believe, but to know!

So I tried the technique of Jasmuheen. I did not attend any of her workshops or other seminars, because I consider them to have turned into money-spinning enterprises. Instead I informed and prepared myself thoroughly by buying some books and studying the internet-foren. I prepared myself for weeks and then re-arranged my life, so that I can have 1 month of the required absolute seclusion to start the process.

Here the diagram which shows the weight versus time during the process:

I found out that normally I will loose about 800-900 grams per day, if I do not eat at all. That’s the yellow reference line. The blue line is my weight and the pink line from of another person who has gone through the same process .
Please note that the bottom-line of the graph has an offset of 50 kg, so my initial weight was 50+38 kg.

I stopped after completing 5 weeks. The other person continued the process and eventually after many weeks, he started to gain weight!!
The graph had been modified to accommodate the longer time span. This is highlighted in the right corner of the graph,. The bottom numbers in the right corner of the graph shows 43,44,45 are not any more days, but weeks, which made the graph a kind combined graph of two in one.
On the 45th week the other persons weight was nearly 50+29 kg. He gained about 10 kg in nearly 40 weeks of not eating at all!

My weight was taken every morning at the same time after easing myself. I wore always the same kind of clothes(underwear). A digital scale was used with an accuracy of 100 grams. Repeated measurements were taken and only the weight which showed up repeatedly for at least 3 times was recorded.

You may notice the disturbance of the line on the 23rd/24th day. That’s when I had to assist my parents in a kind of “emergency”. It involved 1.5 hours of moving and carrying items.
It immediately affected the transformation process. My old mom actually recognized that I was fasting, and was increasingly concerned about my health. Soon she became convinced that I was anorexic. She started to blame herself for having screwed me up psychologically during my childhood. There was no way I could convince her otherwise.

I stopped the process after she nearly broke down in tears because she felt guilty of me committing suicide.

Results: Within the last 4 days I lost only 100 grams of weight! I have concluded for myself that I had successfully changed my body-system into assimilating energy through other means. I am convinced that after 5 weeks my weight loss had nearly bottomed out, and that my future curve would somehow match the development of the other persons curve.

Conclusions: The process is a good Plan B!
You do not have to be a saint to achieve it!
But a proper preparation is absolutely essential. Do not joke with that.

It's not easy to walk the talk, but if you make it through the process, then there will be many benefits:
You will not worry so much any more how you will survive the coming earth changes.
This process is a quantum leap in personal development and your psychic abilities will grow hand in hand with it.
Your kitchen table will start to collect dust and finally the kitchen will be used for other purposes, if you live alone.
You will drastically reduce your waste, get healthier, save a lot of time, save money etc.
You will only need clean water, so there is a lot less fear of any break down of infrastructure etc.

With the achievement of this transformation you will look at any doomsday prediction with another mindset.

The process increases you body vibration and is an ideal preparation to tune into the overall increase of the vibration of mother Earth.

Your mind will transform your body!

It’s a kind of inner shape shifting in order to throw off the yoke of Reptilian slavery!

You will be able to roam fearlessly on this planet as free as the wind and by claiming your divine heritage you will open your way to the stars…

There you will - as a conscious thought manifesting entity - meet your destiny: A return to the Ancestors…




Welcome

Please note that the above information is in no way sufficient to start your own process!
If you do not prepare yourself thoroughly and follow the guidelines, then you are endangering your live!

Disclaimer: By restricting food intake you are endangering you live, with possible deadly consequences!

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[Swanny]

Sorry but I don't believe for one minute that people can live without food. People all over the world are starving to death.
This chap certainly doesn't look like it's doing him any favours.

Originally Posted by bashi

Somebody before and after 2 years of BIGU:

And the others sat at the table look like death warmed up. I'll still to eating food or die thx
Why do we have digestive systems if we don't need them? If we add a few more strands of DNA will they disappear??

Bashi your coloured writing is really hard for those of us using the minty style forum to read.

[bashi]

Swanny, but you had no problems in reading and replying in just a few minutes...

[Swanny]

Originally Posted by bashi

Swanny, but you had no problems in reading and replying in just a few minutes...

Yea but I have really good eyesight. Trust me it's not easy to read, if you don't believe me have a look for yourself the option is at the bottom of the page

[bashi]

OK, for you. Dont want to loose my unbelieving Admiral.

[Swanny]

Hehe nice one

[dddanieljjjamesss]

This reminds me of a source of information I was following awhile back, Dr. Tom Chalko from Australia. He described his eventual fasting on only water and Spirulina for protein. The dude loves to wind surf, and supposedly had no complaints of a lack of energy!

He also said that treating food differently is essential to obtain correct fuel for your mind and achieve things like out of body travel, aura perception, and anything else fancy like that. There is so much in the food we eat, so many unnecessary ingredients that we do not even have our bodies natural perception of the effects of what we eat. Ever have a huge turkey dinner and then pass out? Your body needs to SLEEP just to digest! Forget about even a Big-Mac.

This really doesn't seem that far fetched, but you are right about taking it slow. Before fasting people should really consider a minimalistic vegetarian diet for at least a while - and as gross as it is, an enema. There is so much waste clinging to our insides in there, that it will be reabsorbed when the body reacts to the lack of food during fasting - WHICH CAN BE POTENTIALLY POISONOUS.

Fasting has been around forever, and it is only western perceptions that show those who fast as weak and frail. Have you ever met someone who's fasted for an extended period of months to over a year? They don't really seem that much worse off.

Maybe a good middle ground would to be what Dr. Chalko did and at least take a protein supplement... and spirulina is supposed to be the best.

[Christo888]

One day the balance of how it works will pop out!!

But in the meantime... some of the largest beasts on the planet eat greens, and the most ferocious eat meat. And a Hummingbird drinks sugar all day.

The funny thing about Photosynthesis is that there is more to it than what science is teaching, yet simpler to comprehend once the mechanics of photosynthesis is grasped. The properties contained within the spectrum of Sunlight create chaos within a leaf, this chaos changes the atomic structure of atoms that then rebind back together into long sugar chains of protein to form different purposes, but for simplicity, building blocks of cellulose are formed and the plant grows one cell at a time. A tree does not eat the ground below it, a tree is merely solidified Sunlight! As Above So Below-X marks the spot-crossing the streams of spirit into the reality of 3D manifestation. A process that is taken for granted as a mystery of nature yet that is exactly what creates the entire mass of all objects on this planet!!!

Sungazers, Breatharians, and Magnetizers- mediators in nature, each individual parts of an incomplete process.

Take the water away from a plant and it will malnurish, block the Sunlight from a plant and it will wilt, cut of the roots of a plant and it cannot grow...

Tesla was a kid in a candy store once he grasped the forces of nature and he could create endless contraptions that magnified, directed, trapped, released, and harnessed the everflowing of the 'unseen' that exists all around us.

Here is the irony... if we lived in a positive world we would have to create the negative in order to function, but thankfully the world is negative so all we have to do is create the anecdote, and that seems like the miracle!!! Or Magic!!!

Jolly ol magical red St. Nick travels the world and gives presents under the decorated Evergreen tree once a year... why not every day for the rest of your life!

The curse of the pharaohs will mummify you in short order but perhaps thinned out over let's say 75 years death is still certain nonetheless, unless an anecdote is found.

Entropy and potential are both at work we just have to learn to conduct the symphony for everlasting Harmony, as there is no rescue team standing by. Just ask for the secrets as they are freely given, but you have to ask... the ol noninterference of freewill rule!

Crazy rules!!

[TheRebel]

I completely agree with this that if we get rid of food not at the cost of health; we would have far less problems and issues to today's world. I think there is a possibility of greater human beings off food as "what we eat, we become that" so the energy to function the body smoothly without any side effects is needed; and in our current food habits; it is impossible to achieve; so if we could do something to get the same or better energy; but from alternative source; hopefully it would be the biggest achievement for us....I have heard many stories in India about "sages" who do not eat and are enlightened; however they do not live in society rather in recluse....I believe this is a feasible idea; but may not be easy...below is an link to an excellent book which contains "way" to start lifestyle without food and also includes many examples who have achieved that state...


http://www.scribd.com/doc/6205230/Li...e-Without-Food

[pedro m.b.]

i belive this is true, some years ago here in portugal a man and a woman he´s american and she´s brasilian, did an interview in this show in witch they were saying that they live only with the sun light, no food needed, they say that food is like addiction, you can stop with it. how could this be true, i went to their website, that leed me to jasmuheen and others around the world, the monks in tibete that spend a lot of time in isolation meditating without food or water only with prana. instead of getting weak and die, they become stronger and more spiritual beings.
i have lots of articles about this, i think this is what really could change our live here, i read this book some time ago, he´s saying that we can do everything, if we decide to stop eating we can do that. http://niejedzenie.info/english/text/lswf.pdf

is one of the things that go really off, when you start talk about this everybody think you´re crazy, at least in this part of the world.

http://www.vivendodaluz.com/

bashi thank you for this post

[pedro m.b.]

therebel, i didn´t saw that you post the same book


Giri Bala


This great woman yogi has not taken food or drink since 1880. I am pictured with her, in 1936, at her home in the isolated Bengal village of Biur. Her non-eating state has been rigorously investigated by the Maharaja of Burdwan. She employs a certain yoga technique to recharge her body with cosmic energy from the ether, sun, and air. (the elderly woman)

- Paramahansa Yogananda


Shivapuri Baba (XX), from india died at 137 years



Totapuri, (?-1962), mysterious saint, started Ramakrishna Paramahamsa, lived for 250 years.

[bashi]

Originally Posted by dddanieljjjamesss

Before fasting people should really consider a minimalistic vegetarian diet for at least a while - and as gross as it is, an enema.

A clearing up of the stomach and intestines is required as prep. I found a more convenient way than an enema: Glauber salt ! After that you can drink warm salt-water to flush out the rest. Its much easier than the hustle of an enema.

[dddanieljjjamesss]

What great news! Just thinking about... well... let's stop there.

[bashi]

The main preparation is not physical...

[wegge]

wonderful thread
Dane Tops also stated in his recent interview with Bill and Kerry that he suddenly became a Breatharian for 3 months..that led me on the way and I hope this thread gave me the final push..thanks

Love and Light

[Peace of mind]

I have read of similar stories elsewhere. I do struggle in making myself eat constantly, I also have never been so regular in my life… sometimes when i eat I’ll feel a bit nausea. Strange, because I’m healthy and nowhere near looking malnourished. Just 2 days ago they pulled another LIVE person from out the rumble in Haiti….there goes the scientific proof that humans can’t live longer than 2 weeks without food. Breatherian (prana eating) was mentioned in some Egyptology. To add to that…some cultures believe in fasting for long periods of time while certain animals can even hibernate for weeks/months without eating. Perhaps we were photosensitizing beings, but, conditioning back to this way of living may be harder for most because of the amount of mis-placed thrust they put into their illusion.

Peace

[truthseekerdan]

bashi,

Thank you for this info. I was thinking myself how to achieve eating less, because I was showed that we are entering tough times ahead - and food will be scarce.

To Swanny, if you want to live to be 98 believe me bro you have to start eating less and less.

[peaceandlove]

Originally Posted by truthseekerdan

bashi,

Thank you for this info. I was thinking myself how to achieve eating less, because I was showed that we are entering tough times ahead - and food will be scarce.

Blessings bashi,

Thank you for this thread. I have been very interested in Breatharianism believing myself there is no need for food, only air, water and sunlight.

PaL



To: truthseekerdan

One way to achieve eating less is chewing your food, one mouthful at a time, until it is liquid. This includes any smoothie drinks or green drinks, and some people even say water should be chewed before swallowing. The food will be more easily digested since some of the enzymes are produced through chewing and you will receive more nutrients from the food you eat.

It may take 10 chews or 100 chews depending on the food you are eating.

At Macrobiotic Cancer centers, they require you chew every mouthful 150 times.

By thoroughly masticating (aka fletcherizing, popularized by Dr. Fletcher) a person will feel full on less food and not end up overstuffed or end up gaining weight by overeating. It also exercises many muscles associated with the mouth.

For me it is sort of a meditation at the same time.

Food should taste better the longer you chew it. If not, the food choice is probably not a good one.

[peaceandlove]

Originally Posted by truthseekerdan

bashi,

Thank you for this info. I was thinking myself how to achieve eating less, because I was showed that we are entering tough times ahead - and food will be scarce.

To: truthseekerdan

The following was the original response to your statement early on in this thread. As an after thought I have been meaning to come back and share with anyone that many times what feels like a need for food is actually a need for water. By drinking a glass of water, the desire for what a person thought was food will go away. Most recent research indicates the body needs 1/2 its body weight in ounces of water (not liquids) per day.

Oh and thanks bashi for sharing your experience.

One way to achieve eating less is chewing your food, one mouthful at a time, until it is liquid. This includes any smoothie drinks or green drinks, and some people even say water should be chewed before swallowing. The food will be more easily digested since some of the enzymes are produced through chewing and you will receive more nutrients from the food you eat.

It may take 10 chews or 100 chews depending on the food you are eating.

At Macrobiotic Cancer centers, they require you chew every mouthful 150 times.

By thoroughly masticating (aka fletcherizing, popularized by Horace Fletcher) a person will feel full on less food and not end up overstuffed or end up gaining weight by overeating. It also exercises many muscles associated with the mouth.

For me it is sort of a meditation at the same time.

Food should taste better the longer you chew it. If not, the food choice is probably not a good one.



Chapter X. What Constitutes A Fletcherite

http://chestofbooks.com/health/nutri...etcherite.html


Historical Note

Horace Fletcher (1849-1919), an American businessman from Lawrence, Massachusetts, was best known for his writing and lectures on popular nutrition. His major innovation in eating habits, called Fletcherism, prescribed eating in small amounts only when hungry and chewing food thoroughly. Numerous celebrities of the time, such as John D. Rockefeller, Upton Sinclair, and Henry James, followed Fletcher's advice.

Fletcher was president of the Health and Efficiency League of America, subsidized research on nutrition, and worked in Belgium during World War I teaching refugees his system of vital economics: how to make the most of their scant rations.



American Food Fads

Excerpt:

America’s first food fad, “Fletcherizing” became popular towards the early 1900’s. The fad consisted of millions of Americans taking advice from Horace Fletcher, to chew each bite of food up to as many as one hundred times (Pollan 299). With Americans latched onto this concept, the food that they ate no longer became significant or a habit, instead the habit was to chew, chew, and chew more. “Gradually, the fad died because people were too lazy or too busy with other things to give the required 45 strokes to every mouthful”(TIME). No one in America at the time of the fad’s popularity attempted to challenge Fletcherism until a physiology professor at the University of Chicago released his results on his study of the theory. Dr. Harold G. O. Hoick concluded that his own practice of Fletcherizing had no benefits on the overall health of his body (TIME). Either way, Horace Fletcher became the first man in America to sway the diets of millions of Americans with one fad.

SOURCE: http://jmarbach.com/american-food-fads



Eat somewhat less but eat it more
Would you be hearty beyond fourscore.
Eat not at all in worried mood
Or suffer harm from best of food.
Don't gobble your food but "Fletcherize"
Each morsel you eat, if you'd be wise.
Don't cause your blood pressure e'er to rise
By prizing your menu by its size.

This little lyric was the popular expression of a fad which made famous its founder, Horace Fletcher, some 20 years ago. John D. Rockefeller took it up and provided a prose version of its message: "Don't gobble your food. 'Fletcherize,' or chew very slowly while you eat."


Read more: http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...#ixzz0huUIh2tO

[bashi]

Long time ago i delved into the willful manifestation of realities around me, and I got my verification of being able to do that several times. But I also noticed that in this way I opened myself up to manipulation of the dark sub-space side of existence. My own issues like EGO, greed, lust etc. were addressed by these sub-space beings and they tried to lure me into their grip. So I stopped the wilful manifestations and focussed more on finding out what the unmanipulated reality-show is trying to teach me. I took the position that the unmanipulated show will address and hint at my real issues in a way that is most beneficial for me. That requires, as said before, a very good AWARENESS and boldness to walk the talk.
It sent me on a rollercoaster of extreme experiences in many countries during these last xxx years, which I do not want to have missed.

Let me give you an example: With a friend I worked out a very successful way to win in gambling, specifically Roulette, by using some ESP - “gifts” in a combined way. This included a powerful visualisation of winning.
As soon as we started to be successful on the Roulette-table, these sub-space influences started kicking in, amplifying greed and EGO. After several very successful visits to the casino, these influences led to a split with my friend. He was actually thinking to be the main guy and was confident to be successful by himself and that there is no need for him to split the gains. So we shared the common cash and everybody was then on his own. The circumstances of this split were already strange, but that was only the beginning. I considered to find somebody else, but dropped that idea soon. Then one evening I decided to try whether my capabilities alone were enough and I went to the casino. In the beginning everything went smooth and successful, but then somehow I started to interpreted my ESP-signals wrongly and I started loosing. I took a brake, went frustrated away from the table into a quiet area where I was alone and asked myself:” Ok, this does not work anymore, so what to do next?” Suddenly I clearly heard a voice at my right ear:” Bet on the ‘17’ !” I immediately turned around, but I was completely alone. I then went to the table and fought with my urge to put chips on the ’17’, which, finally, I did NOT do. The number which came was of course the ‘17’ . I immediately changed all remaining chips back into money and left the casino. I have never entered a casino since.
Needless to say that my friend lost all the money he had gained from our partnership, and more! He later came to me, apologised and asked whether I would like to re-establish our gambling-partnership, which I refused.
I was later informed that I had successfully passed that test.

Without being moralistic: Whatever wilful manifestation you are practising, you will have to be very careful.


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[Clarityofawareness]

Good point of view and I agree. Yet when is or should anything be classified as being demonic or low frequency or negative energy? Should my ability of knowing when people are going to soon die also be classified as negative energy? I mean, this ability happens and I actually know when certain people are going to die really, really soon. I can actually pin point when and sometimes how they will die. This depends on what kind of connection I have with such people and it varies. One thing I can't do is stop anyone's death from happening. Believe me I have tried and it never seems to work out.

The suicides are definitely the ones I've learned not to attempt any interference of. For example one lady, which in the act of doing it basically told me that she who have me arrested if I tried to stop her from dying. No, she didn't tell me this physically (like us being face to face). She told my higher self while I experienced her suicide planning and then finally her death. So I realized long ago that this ability is not here for me to stop people from death, but more higher purpose. I've died maybe one million times or more and lived that many times as well (past lives). At least according to my numerology/astrology charts and what I sense/know. Such things only help confirm for me who I really am, which are also all my advanced psychic abilities. So is some or all this experience of mine for the purpose evil? I don't think so. Either way I still I accept it.

Or is it more negative when I chose to experience a woman driving and running over my mail box several times & until that mail box is more flatter than any pan cake? I wanted a new mail box and to help any soul concerning their drinking & driving challenge. I connected to it all and allowed it to happen to me. This is what some would call remote influencing. Less than a week later she ran my mail box over until she could no longer drive. She was trying to back up into my driveway and turn around to leave my dead end street. I don't think that she was charged by me at least, but maybe the police charged her with drunk driving. Actually I deeply sensed that she has family in the police department and she wasn't really charged as much as a normal drunk driver would be. Do you see? That was just one of the events I chose being my reality. Especially before the whole event took place. If folks want to call me evil or negative for helping a drunk driver hit my mail box instead of killing a pedestrian, that's wonderful. Thing is, such people probably are not open enough to understand just who I really am or what I really know and understand. That's ok. Life goes on and we're all doing the best that we can.

I realize that negative and positive experiences have to do with being more oneness experience. How do I explain oneness when I can not explain it? It's something that you can only experience and to do so means to perceive life in as many ways as possible... and impossible. Well, at least according to those who believe that some experiences are just too "impossible" for anyone to experience.

Basically I understand what balance really is and I allow it to help me and others in life. In so many ways I prove that I can help balance various kinds of energy, so that all involved experience that energy as well. It's not about good verse evil it's about oneness or more balance. In fact I am starting my own business to do just that. I will give psychic readings but also offer other kinds of help as well.

If any of what I just now explained... in total honesty no doubt, is me being very egotistical then so be it. I don't see it that way because I tried to explain who I am and give as much detail. One thing is for sure and that is I seriously don't belong on this planet, lol. BUT I am here to learn, like everyone else. It's sad so many refuse to experience life by also choosing/experiencing more perspectives, yes? That's all that I ask here. Open hearts & minds.

Kevin

[Clarityofawareness]

Gambling for the right cause is always good in my opinion. One time I actually manipulated my states lottery to increase it's jackpot to $30 million and I manifested the winning lottery ticket for it. My goal was simple, to fund construction of what my higher self calls Villages of Light around the world. Self sustaining villages that operate on one law, the law of love. All of which operates with very little or no money what so ever. Some of these villages would even be visited by being of love (aliens). How ever it wasn't my time to experience this and I did not win the money. Although I did help raise the jackpot and get the winning numbers for it. I am now working on this project to make it my reality experience. If people don't chose to understand what the law of love is then that is all I can do to help them understand it. In other words, anyone who tells me that such villages will never work in our society, well, that is their opinion or belief and I respect and understand them.

Kevin

[Gnosis5]

Hello Bashi,

That indicates to me about turning on abilities and then walking away when things start to get too serious. I find as long as I am playful or just want to see if I can do it, like a one-time test, then I'm fine with myself as a being, staying simple, being myself basically.

I have one friend who keeps telling me how much he would like to be able to do remote viewing, and finally I got tired of hearing him say that and I told him I can get him to that ability. I knew that would shut him up :-)

Awareness, truth, decency, ethics -- it takes a lot of effort to deny that part of ourselves, and most of us fail,

[bashi]

I walked away from gambling not because i got an assistance, but because nothing is free. Accepting that help means you are bound to pay back, whatever the bill might be. I was not ready to take that risk. I have some history in that, it was an old trick to get me and I called it.

Experiences are always individual, so what is good for you might not be good for me. It’s too diverse.

Everybody fails one time or the other. As more bitter the failures, as faster the learning. I learned pretty fast…

In Yoga the ESP abilities are called SIDDHIS. There are many and they are all listed in the ancient literature. Check Patanjali’s Yoga sutras etc..
SIDDHIS are considered indications of spiritual progress, but it is also warned about the use of them. They are like flowers on the roadside, if you divert to pick them, then you are loosing the direction forward.
You would not notice a SIDDHA-Yogi, even if sitting right in front of him/her. They remain anonym for their own protection.

To use these abilities for someones own benefit and without inner rapport will most likely bring the downfall.

Originally Posted by Gnosis5

I got tired of hearing him say that and I told him I can get him to that ability. I knew that would shut him up :-)

So what do you teach him?

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[Gnosis5]

What would I be able to teach him? He wanted the Siddhis more than he wanted to do the foundational boddhisattva or boddhicitta work. If he had been doing the foundational work he would not have been speaking so urgently about needing to exhibit a Siddhi ability.