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10-23-2008, 10:56 AM | #176 | ||
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In case of Zeitgeist's claims on religion it is just a meme rather then obvious truth. It fails when being tested. Jesus was not a myth as neither was Aleister Crowley for example. Both are individuals that have claims about the beyond. Both have documentation that proves their existence. Both have religious scripture. Quote:
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10-23-2008, 12:17 PM | #178 | ||||||
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The definition of resource in Dictionary.com is: –noun 1. a source of supply, support, or aid, esp. one that can be readily drawn upon when needed. 2. resources, the collective wealth of a country or its means of producing wealth. 3. Usually, resources. money, or any property that can be converted into money; assets. 4. Often, resources. an available means afforded by the mind or one's personal capabilities: to have resource against loneliness. 5. an action or measure to which one may have recourse in an emergency; expedient. 6. capability in dealing with a situation or in meeting difficulties: a woman of resource. source: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/resource Well since we all write on a computer which uses gold as a resource to transfer data in the central processing unit I think that this idea is a fallacy alone by the idea that Gold, Silver, platinum, etc. have no use and are a distraction. I won't go into monatomic gold since I don't know its composition directly but I know it is made from gold and it is being claimed that it has direct effects on the human body. I want gold the same as I want a roof over my body and food to feed my self. It is useful in the necessary setting and has become a necessity for humans that want to research anything based on their life. Products of mining are resources. Quote:
–noun, plural -ties. 1. an article of trade or commerce, esp. a product as distinguished from a service. 2. something of use, advantage, or value. 3. Stock Exchange. any unprocessed or partially processed good, as grain, fruits, and vegetables, or precious metals. 4. Obsolete. a quantity of goods. source: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/commodity Let's look at it in the case of gold. 1. Yes that is defining it in one use. 2. This as well. 3. Well obviously. 4. Kinda. We could conclude that the use of gold is what is its definition in this aspect. You can either use it as a Resource or a commodity. Quote:
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---Rant ahead--- My problem with his the thesis of non religious and religious solutions to this problem is this: No one knows where the heck we are from and where the heck we are going. We don't even know what the heck we are for certain. Now a solution for this would be "attacking" occultism and don't mean hermetic orders or other secret societies for that matter. The occultism I'm talking about is embedded right here in your backyard so to speak. This occultism starts when your mom tells you that you have been brought here by birds and ends with a scientist telling you that you are a chemical chance. It's covering up information and fallacies. It's finding the intellect "holier" then the human being itself. What do I think is a solution? Don't lie neither to others nor to yourself (which is the most perpetrated crime around). Do you think that this "satanic" system so to speak could live one second if there were a decent and un-romanticized answer to why this is happening. People love to support liars because they know that these will cover up their own. And people love to also blame them for their indifference and ignorance. That rethoric about "God" or "The Devil" made me do it is the main thing about this mental prison. What do I think I should do? I should close the channels supporting this system without damaging the free will of others. I should inform myself in every aspect of everything that I can find without prejudice and other dramatized memes or thought forms. If someone likes my approach they are open to implement that, but I couldn't care less if they didn't because it is their life even if we are one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively. That's the action. Be sure what you meddle with and get informed. Share that information so that it can be bettered through your fellow men and women. The most beautiful thing that I find in this movie the ending of a sentence: "...because they are no longer relevant anymore." (or something like that). Truth dissolves falacies and gives you the power to choose wisely. ---Rant over--- Quote:
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10-23-2008, 09:04 PM | #179 | ||||||||||
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Think about the housing "bubble" in the US. In July it was reported that the foreclosure crisis had left 2 MILLION homes (in the US alone) standing empty, with the price of these properties plummeting. Is there no demand for houses? My city (los angeles) alone had EIGHTY THOUSAND homeless people at the beginning of this year. San Francisco has TWENTY THOUSAND. New York has FORTY THOUSAND. Is there a demand for homes? Google the term "Tent City" or "Bushville", and you will find that the rate of homelessness in this country is SKY-ROCKETING EXPONENTIALLY. There is SUPPLY and there is a HUGE DEMAND, so why aren't these houses selling, and why is the market price crashing? This would indicate that supply and demand AS DEFINED IN A MONETARY-BASED WORLD ECONOMY IS A COMPLETE ABSTRACTION, having very little relationship to the actuall PHYSICAL MEASUREMENT of SUPPLY and the actual human need expressed as DEMAND. Quote:
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NOTHING. Our entire economic model is base on FAITH. It is pure ABSTRACTION. That is why when people get afraid the whole thing starts to fall apart. From BBC News: Quote:
CAPITAL IS FAITH. Those that wield capital and leverage wealth are wielding FAITH and leveraging FAITH. Now that we are loosing FAITH, now that we are SEEING that the whole system revolves around a MIND GAME, the whole thing is falling apart. The ABSTRACTION is no longer believable. Everyone who reads this and feels that there is atleast some truth to what I'm saying should check out Alan Watts. In this short lecture he lays it out sooooo clearly: http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...906&playnext=1 I will leave this responce to the realm of capital V.S. resource management. I did read what you had to say about religioun and I quite agree with your position that nobody really knows what's going on and that you've made it your goal to find out for yourself. I love it. DO YOU! As you formulate further responses on this subject try to apply this meme to your thought process: "Is this thought the product of a monetary system? What would this thought look like in the absence of wealth and capital?" Great Love, John P.S. I've started a new thread for discussing the venus project here: http://projectavalon.org/forum/showt...9869#post59869 Last edited by Reveling John; 10-23-2008 at 11:34 PM. |
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I don't define myself with an external source anymore. I still have some connections to the external on this matter but I'm trying hard to root them out. I couldn't care less if this monetary system fails (which it will). I don't believe that I am a product of any system. I'm not trying to define myself with the past. I am neither a grandson of Jesus neither of Atatürk. I am what I am and I don't know what the hell it is Quote:
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And of course there is the sitchin story with enlil and enki creating us as gold miners... Since I don't trust him I can skip that as some sort of father christmas story. Quote:
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Thank you for your posts John. I'm sure we will arrive at a conclusion in a short time. Maybe we should gather these in a text file and use them on the forums we visit, blogs etc. I2ll be over at your new post later on in the day (got to work occasionally ). Be good all of you. |
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10-25-2008, 12:59 AM | #181 | |||
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I understand that you have choosen not to put this polar judgement on money and I respect that and feel as well that the judgment is not helpful. At the same I would really like everyone to get into the habit of asking themselves, "Why money?" Money can be a dirge to humankind or an enhancement, and it has certainly been both of those things, but so few people ever get the chance to ask the simple question, "Is money necessary?" Is money necessary? Quote:
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10-25-2008, 10:41 AM | #182 | ||
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Well we are actually half done here on the text part. If TranceAM and the others have nothing to add I will make a pdf out of the posts relevant to the topic to spread around. I will wait until Monday. Perhaps there are still details to discuss on the subject. Thank you John and every other person in here. This has been an interesting and beautiful experience. |
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01-03-2009, 01:38 PM | #184 |
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