To Do List

[Northern Boy]

Removal of all Black Operations and roll back of the all law enforcement agencies including FBI and CIA

return to common Law and only use UCC law when dealing with commerce

smaller government and elimination of lobby groups

right of recall of your state , provincial or district reps they have to be more accountable to the people not just when we have elections

[Seashore]

Consolidated list:

United States

1. Rescind the Patriot Act.
2. End all US wars of aggression.
3. Drastically cut the Pentagon's budget.
4. Abolish the Federal Reserve.
5. Have a national debate about taxes.
   a. Consider abolishing the federal income tax and IRS, and replacing them with a flat tax.
   b. Establish a tax on the properties and "income" of all religious organizations, without exception.
6. Abolish the NSA.
7. Reform healthcare.
8. Establish housing and food for the needy. Focus on humanity in general.
9. Full disclosure of ET contacts/recovered crafts/associated technology & science/replace fossil fuels.
10. Real 9-11 inquiry.
11. Nuclear disarmament.
12. Reform how we select leaders and establish transparency in government.
13. Challenge the fear tactics of authority figures.
14. Require the federal government to respect state laws allowing the growing of industrial hemp.
15. Remove all black operations.
16. Roll back all law enforcement agencies including the FBI.
17. Roll back the CIA.
18. Return to common law and only use UCC law when dealing with commerce.
19. Decrease the size of government.
20. Eliminate lobby groups.
21. Establish the right of recall of legislators so that they're accountable to the people in between elections.
    
    

[Christo888]

Transform the Media to promote personal responsibility and advancement of Truth of Knowledge.

[Seashore]

Consolidated list:

United States

1. Rescind the Patriot Act.
2. End all US wars of aggression.
3. Drastically cut the Pentagon's budget.
4. Abolish the Federal Reserve.
5. Have a national debate about taxes.
   a. Consider abolishing the federal income tax and IRS, and replacing them with a flat tax.
   b. Establish a tax on the properties and "income" of all religious organizations, without exception.
6. Abolish the NSA.
7. Reform healthcare.
8. Establish housing and food for the needy. Focus on humanity in general.
9. Full disclosure of ET contacts/recovered crafts/associated technology & science/replace fossil fuels.
10. Real 9-11 inquiry.
11. Nuclear disarmament.
12. Reform how we select leaders and establish transparency in government.
13. Challenge the fear tactics of authority figures.
14. Require the federal government to respect state laws allowing the growing of industrial hemp.
15. Remove all black operations.
16. Roll back all law enforcement agencies including the FBI.
17. Roll back the CIA.
18. Return to common law and only use UCC law when dealing with commerce.
19. Decrease the size of government.
20. Eliminate lobby groups.
21. Establish the right of recall of legislators so that they're accountable to the people in between elections.
22. Transform the media to promote personal responsibility and the advancement of truth and knowledge.
    

[Seashore]

This is to make a correction for 5.a. from "flat tax" to "flat sales tax." That's what I meant to say originally.

Consolidated list:

United States

1. Rescind the Patriot Act.
2. End all US wars of aggression.
3. Drastically cut the Pentagon's budget.
4. Abolish the Federal Reserve.
5. Have a national debate about taxes.
   a. Consider abolishing the federal income tax and IRS, and replacing them with a flat sales tax.
   b. Establish a tax on the properties and "income" of all religious organizations, without exception.
6. Abolish the NSA.
7. Reform healthcare.
8. Establish housing and food for the needy. Focus on humanity in general.
9. Full disclosure of ET contacts/recovered crafts/associated technology & science/replace fossil fuels.
10. Real 9-11 inquiry.
11. Nuclear disarmament.
12. Reform how we select leaders and establish transparency in government.
13. Challenge the fear tactics of authority figures.
14. Require the federal government to respect state laws allowing the growing of industrial hemp.
15. Remove all black operations.
16. Roll back all law enforcement agencies including the FBI.
17. Roll back the CIA.
18. Return to common law and only use UCC law when dealing with commerce.
19. Decrease the size of government.
20. Eliminate lobby groups.
21. Establish the right of recall of legislators so that they're accountable to the people in between elections.
22. Transform the media to promote personal responsibility and the advancement of truth and knowledge.
    

[Seashore]

Consider abolishing the federal income tax and IRS, and replacing them with a flat sales tax.

I got this idea from reading Lorien's post on the "Is the Real Problem Excessive Government Spending?" thread under Economy and Currency.

For the purpose of discussion on this thread, here is a copy and paste of the post:

Currently all monies that we pay to the IRS in the form of income taxes goes directly to the Federal Reserve to pay the INTEREST on the money that the gov borrows from them. That is why we as a nation constantly have an increasing deficit, because we are never paying down the PRINCIPAL on that loan from the Fed, only the interest. Which is why we always need more money and they have to constantly raise taxes. It is also the cause of inflation because the more we borrow, the less the dollar is worth, and the higher the price of goods go, the higher wages go, and so on. It's quite a vicious cycle.

That, however, is not the only problem. Obviously, if we didn't have the fed to borrow from then the money would have to come from somewhere. Which is where a restructuring of taxes and a change in the way Washington and the individual states raise money for certain project.

I have always been a firm believer in getting rid of the income tax completely, and changing over to a flat sales tax in every state. For example, every state across the board would have a sales tax attached to every item or service sold.

Some items like food and clothing would have a very low tax with say 1% going to the state and 1% going to the federal gov.

General goods and services would have a higher tax with say 4% going to the state and another 3% going to the fed.

Luxury items like cars and homes over a certain price, and other items would have a higher tax on them.

This leaves a portion of taxes to the state for them to do with what they want, and a portion for the gov to do what they want. It also doesn't punish people for working hard and making a lot of money since they're not getting taxed on their wages. It does however "punish" them for things that are excessive and not needed.

This would also make it so that there would be no earmarking of federal funds that you and I pay to the government for projects in some other state that we care less about.

[Northern Boy]

You must exclude from this necessities of life the biggest coming to mind is food, medicine I`m sure we could make a list for these also ensure that there is no taxing of an existing tax. In Canada we have a sales tax and a goods and service tax. Have one for the province sales and one for the federals GST the problem you run into is that no matter who`s in charge if they feel they need more money then they simply increase them 1 % point and the price of everything goes up. There should No increase without justification

[Seashore]

Here is a consolidation and paraphrase of the two posts so far on a flat sales tax:


Currently all monies that we pay to the IRS in the form of income taxes goes directly to the Federal Reserve to pay the INTEREST on the money that the government borrows from them. That is why we as a nation constantly have an increasing deficit. We are never paying down the PRINCIPAL on that loan from the Fed, only the interest. Which is why we always need more money and they have to constantly raise taxes. It is also the cause of inflation because the more we borrow, the less the dollar is worth, and the higher the price of goods go, the higher wages go, and so on. It's quite a vicious cycle.

We need to eliminate both the Fed and federal income taxes. To raise revenue, we could establish a flat sales tax in every state on goods and services.

A decision would have to be made concerning the necessities of life (food, medicine, clothing). We could:

a. Exclude them
b. Tax them at a low rate: for example 1% going to the state and 1% going to the federal government

General goods and services would have a higher tax with say 4% going to the state and another 3% going to the federal government.

Luxury items like cars and homes over a certain price, and other luxury items would have a higher tax on them.

The advantage of not taxing income and taxing goods and services instead is that people have incentive to work hard and make a lot of money, but are discouraged from spending excessively for unnecessary items.

Another advantage is that there would be no earmarking of funds that you and I pay to the federal government for projects in some other state that we care less about.

There should be no flat sales tax on items that have an existing tax already.

Some provision needs to be made so that there is no increase in the tax rates without justification.

[Christo888]

From 'seashore' above... We need to eliminate both the Fed and federal income taxes. To raise revenue, we could establish a flat sales tax in every state on goods and services.

A decision would have to be made concerning the necessities of life (food, medicine, clothing). We could:

a. Exclude them

Begin reaching for sustainability leading towards abundance that costs nothing to maintain and we will eliminate taxes, currency, and corruptive power! Every household can begin to remove themselves from the grid!!!

A large list but supporting something in existence only holds it in power, good or bad. Remove attention to it and it falls into entropy.

Exchange ideas, inventions, knowledge, free energy, alchemy, nutrition, illumination, youthfulness, etc. These are all non taxable and not controllable if openly provided for all, and this creates a spiraling evolution instead of a circulating currency bankers paradigm.

The desire for manufactured materialism is what makes us go to work for a paycheck and supports the IMF; money is owned by negative OPI so eliminate dependence on their trick.

For example, draw in technology that is 1000's (or more) of years ahead of our time let's say and begin to materialize its manifestation into the Now timeframe instead of waiting for 'someone else' (a corporation or government let's say) to try and own it.

Maybe a large gap between what could exist as part of everyday life and what we are use to for convenience but the sooner this is contemplated and thought out the sooner the excitement builds for participating in bringing in the unknown new!

Base metal, 'Iron' will rust from exposure to the elements if not protected, likewise the human body will age and decay if left to the current way of life introduced by corporations! Moving in the direction with focus and intention of trade and exchange amongst neighbors friends and family can open opportunity's of new forms of materialism that is conducive to Harmony and Balance. And this requires not genius nor might, but simply to ask and observe in allowance when and where the 'New' can come from.

Luxury and abundance does not have to be purchased with currency and there is no permission needed for asking exactly what 'New' is there... expand the mind and contemplate what can be brought into our existence that no one can own and have power over ... ever!

Open the gateways of Inspiration, Discovery, and Adventure.... En Masse!!!!!

[Moxie]

I'm surprised that no one has mentioned "The Food Chain"...
clean up our FOOD. 80% percent of what's sold at WalMartSuperCtrs is trash!

There should be no need for designated "health food stores"..<< geesh !

[Carol]

Get rid of GMO, Insurance Companies and the phara cartel too... maybe private attorneys as well.

This list is worth of cutting and pasting to send/email off to local legislators.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by peaceandlove

Seashore, sounds pretty good except for the TAX issue. Please don't fall for a fair tax compromise, we need to return to NO TAX.

Originally Posted by seashore

peaceandlove,

I listened to the two Ron Paul interviews. I was confused because it seemed that the interviews ended with the idea on the table to abolish the income tax, not replace it with a "fair tax," which is a sales tax, but no discussion of how the government would raise revenue.

I clicked on your second link, but it's too much for me to read at this point...

Briefly, with no income tax, no sales tax, where will revenue come from? Please summarize in your own words...

PaL,

I want to include the NO TAX option in the list but I need some help understanding so I know how to word it...

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Christo888

Begin reaching for sustainability leading towards abundance that costs nothing to maintain and we will eliminate taxes, currency, and corruptive power! Every household can begin to remove themselves from the grid!!!

I would like to avoid the word "sustainability" because of how the word is used by some. Please see this thread.

Originally Posted by Christo888

The desire for manufactured materialism is what makes us go to work for a paycheck and supports the IMF; money is owned by negative OPI so eliminate dependence on their trick.

Christo888,

What is "OPI" here?

I'll be back later. I'm thinking about the wording I would like to propose...

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Carol

Get rid of ... Insurance Companies

Carol,

How would we recover from disasters without insurance companies? Is there a suggestion for a better protection? How would this work?

How about adding "reform the insurance industry" to the list?

Originally Posted by Carol

Get rid of...maybe private attorneys...

How about adding "have a discussion of the desired role of private attorneys in society" to the list?

[Northern Boy]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Carol
Get rid of...maybe private attorneys...

If we go back to common law we won`t need Lawyers they should be confined to only UCC law that is what they are trained for , The law society creates the laws we are forced to live under . I do not recall giving them authority over me

[Seashore]

While waiting for replies to my posts 37, 38, and 39, I thought I would go ahead and update the list to add numbers 23 and 24:


United States

1. Rescind the Patriot Act.
2. End all US wars of aggression.
3. Drastically cut the Pentagon's budget.
4. Abolish the Federal Reserve.
5. Have a national debate about taxes.
   a. Consider abolishing the federal income tax and IRS, and replacing them with a flat sales tax.
   b. Establish a tax on the properties and "income" of all religious organizations, without exception.
6. Abolish the NSA.
7. Reform healthcare.
8. Establish housing and food for the needy. Focus on humanity in general.
9. Full disclosure of ET contacts/recovered crafts/associated technology & science/replace fossil fuels.
10. Real 9-11 inquiry.
11. Nuclear disarmament.
12. Reform how we select leaders and establish transparency in government.
13. Challenge the fear tactics of authority figures.
14. Require the federal government to respect state laws allowing the growing of industrial hemp.
15. Remove all black operations.
16. Roll back all law enforcement agencies including the FBI.
17. Roll back the CIA.
18. Return to common law and only use UCC law when dealing with commerce.
19. Decrease the size of government.
20. Eliminate lobby groups.
21. Establish the right of recall of legislators so that they're accountable to the people in between elections.
22. Transform the media to promote personal responsibility and the advancement of truth and knowledge.
23. Clean up our food by eliminating foods produced from GMO (genetically modified organisms), and by eliminating all other harmful substances found in food.
24. Get rid of the pharmaceutical cartel.

[Jonathon]

Originally Posted by peaceandlove

Seashore, sounds pretty good except for the TAX issue. Please don't fall for a fair tax compromise, we need to return to NO TAX.

Ron Paul Interview: Income Tax, Fed Reserve, Debt

Live Leak Video Part 1 (8:40) and 2 (4:49): http://waronyou.com/topics/ron-paul-...-reserve-debt/

NO TAX

More Money in People's Pockets

"UNfair to the elderly and people on fixed income." Ron Paul


Why the "Fair Tax" is Unfair
by Darrell L. Castle
Constitution Party Vice-Chairman
Here: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13501


Also I would definitely include on the list. HR 1866, Industrial Hemp Farming Act
Here: http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...highlight=hemp

ABsolutely agree Peaceandlove - we do not need taxes on individual labor or sales, period! Sales/flat taxes can be manipulated just as easily as the current system of taxes. With the ensuing prosperity of a no tax system, fully transparent government (of by and for the people in REALITY) programs can be funded by tariffs on imports and exports just as it existed prior to 1913 (pre income tax). All current income tax goes directly to the IMF to pay interest on debt and DO NOT go to ANY government spending programs (see Grace Commission). A flat or national sales tax will not change this fact.

The US is operating under a system of bankruptcy where all value created (your labor) is transferred to the trustee - a privately held foreign bank. Because the value of your labor is denominated in debt notes (valueless dollars) manipulated by inflation and frequent theft through "economic cycles", the principle can never be paid off. Individual and collective buying power quickly reaches ZERO due to the need to continue borrowing more money, which the banks are happy to offer at excessive interest. Hence, financial enslavement (permanent debt). The credit card industry is a good example of this on a smaller scale... the interest eventually reaches a point that it cannot be paid off. Your spending power reaches it's maximum and your only choice is to borrow in times of need (which is how and why wars are started - enticement of borrowing), then leading to borrowing in order to just pay the interest. This is why nearly every piece of property is being leased (via property tax - cars, boats, homes/land) from the government and there is no longer real property ownership. It's all on lien from the actual owners - the very same privately owned foreign bank.

The only answer is to default and start over... this is why the American Revolution and war of 1812 happened, why Lincoln and (likely) JFK were assassinated, and several attempts were made on Andrew Jackson's life. So what happened? We have a system of government in place that allows for coercion of all sorts on the votes of decision makers, the electing of said decision makers, and the allowance of the entire process (bottom to top) to be completely opaque. Top it all off with complete apathy, due in part to the fact that families struggle to make ends meet as both parents work due to inflation; theft of family inheritance and estate through tax, over-medication and health programs designed to bankrupt, and over-taxation; the dis-education of our children who are hit from all sides with damaging "pop-culture" music-TV-fashion-phones/computers & accessories and other "cool to be stupid" agendas, poisoned food and drink, immunization schedules (which doubled in the last 15 years) etc, set in place by the very force that has enslaved us. They are hitting us from every possible angle. I think we can fill in the rest of the blanks here. As Hidden Hand says... there is no way in or out that they haven't fully considered and taken advantage of. AND WE ARE LETTING THEM DO IT!!!

How? Because each time one of us sees the problem, we LOOK FOR SOMEONE ELSE to do it for us or help us do it. When neither of those happen, we do nothing! Many of the few who decide to act quickly give up as they are :1) criticized and laughed at, 2) feel helpless as no one comes to their aid, 3) are too financially buried to carry on a long and meaningful struggle or 4) manage to find themselves dead should they make any real headway.

The answer is simple, yet the poison has run deep.

I can just see these elites sitting back laughing... wondering if we will ever get the gumption to fight back. Does it have to reach the point where they openly sacrifice babies on live TV? Where do you see it ending? Realize things will only get worse until we act. That's the message here: how bad does it have to get before YOU do something (and yes I point the finger equally at myself).

And listen... I know all the reasons why it can't work. We need to start thinking in terms of what CAN make it work. There is momentum going our way right now! YOU HAVE TO SUPPORT (at the very minimum) in ANY way you can these movements! Do it! Make your friends and family do it! It all starts and ends with YOU. Yes YOU reading this!!! Get off your ass (lovingly)!

Get off that **** medicine - find natural ways. Stop eating and drinking poison - get your own pure water system, grow your own food. Educate yourself about what you are consuming (see: "natural flavors", "gelatin", preservatives and anything else you cannot pronounce). Stop pouring poisonous chemicals down your drain or using them to clean, disinfect or color your hair. Don't pay taxes you don't have to (sales or otherwise) - simply say no to that new toy or gas guzzling nightmare of a car you drive with spinning hubcaps! Maybe you don't need 8 more pairs of shoes per year. Maybe the living room WOULDN'T look better with that new plasma TV, Chinese made persian rug, and fancy chemical sprayed laminate floor. Turn off your darn lights! Stop consuming! Consumption is why they have us by the curlies! This is how you can make a difference right now!

[Christo888]

Originally Posted by seashore

I would like to avoid the word "sustainability" because of how the word is used by some. Please see this thread.



Christo888,

What is "OPI" here?
Off Planet Intelligence
I'll be back later. I'm thinking about the wording I would like to propose...

OK, I can see that. How about Self Perpetuation/abundance creation.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Jonathon

...ABsolutely agree Peaceandlove...

Jonathon,

Thank you. I sense your passion for the subject and I appreciate it!

Okay, do I understand correctly that to return to NO TAX means that we would eliminate the federal income tax and IRS, and replace them with tariffs (thus the name "no tax," it's a tariff not a tax) on imports and exports?

If I do understand correctly, I'm thinking about updating the list to read:

5. Have a national debate about taxes to consider various options:

• Abolish the federal income tax and IRS
• Introduce a flat sales tax
• Go back to tariffs on imports and exports
• Establish a tax on the properties and "income" of all religious organizations, without exception

What do you think?

[Christo888]

"Establish a tax on the properties and "income" of all religious organizations, without exception."



A friend once told me.... "If you want to get rich start your own church."

So heavily tax the church to disburse the revenue back into the community and provide published transparency.

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by seashore

While waiting for replies to my posts 37, 38, and 39, I thought I would go ahead and update the list to add numbers 23 and 24:


United States

1. Rescind the Patriot Act.
2. End all US wars of aggression.
3. Drastically cut the Pentagon's budget.
4. Abolish the Federal Reserve.
5. Have a national debate about taxes.
   a. Consider abolishing the federal income tax and IRS, and replacing them with a flat sales tax.
   b. Establish a tax on the properties and "income" of all religious organizations, without exception.
6. Abolish the NSA.
7. Reform healthcare.
8. Establish housing and food for the needy. Focus on humanity in general.
9. Full disclosure of ET contacts/recovered crafts/associated technology & science/replace fossil fuels.
10. Real 9-11 inquiry.
11. Nuclear disarmament.
12. Reform how we select leaders and establish transparency in government.
13. Challenge the fear tactics of authority figures.
14. Require the federal government to respect state laws allowing the growing of industrial hemp.
15. Remove all black operations.
16. Roll back all law enforcement agencies including the FBI.
17. Roll back the CIA.
18. Return to common law and only use UCC law when dealing with commerce.
19. Decrease the size of government.
20. Eliminate lobby groups.
21. Establish the right of recall of legislators so that they're accountable to the people in between elections.
22. Transform the media to promote personal responsibility and the advancement of truth and knowledge.
23. Clean up our food by eliminating foods produced from GMO (genetically modified organisms), and by eliminating all other harmful substances found in food.
24. Get rid of the pharmaceutical cartel.

Quite the list we've got going here...now how to inact it....

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Christo888

OK, I can see that. How about Self Perpetuation/abundance creation.

Christo888,

What do you think of this as an addition to the list:

"Begin reaching for self perpetuation/abundance creation that costs nothing to maintain by exchanging ideas, inventions, knowledge, free energy, alchemy, nutrition, illumination, youthfulness, etc., openly for all. Draw in technology that is thousands of years (or more) ahead of our time. End the currency/bankers paradigm."

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by BROOK

Quite the list we've got going here...now how to inact it....

Yeah, BROOK, put your thinking cap on!! Think outside the box for us. Gonna need this:

How to make things happen?

[Northern Boy]

On # 11 you may want to add the elimiation of Nuclear Energy

[BROOK]

In theory it's very simple..."We the people" need to stand up and demand our rights as free citizens...and utilize the Constitution as it was originally set up.
I believe that will happen when they try to declare martial law. We will be outraged, and there will be a revolution of epoch proportions..and in the end...we are outnumbering them...and it is our country..the one we choose to fight for our freedom every day for...why can we not win against the evil PTB?....it's pretty much written ...that we have our rights to declare our freedom from tyrany.

My ideal solution is a peaceful strike on the PTB.....stop letting them use us...they need us to feed their agendas...to do thier work for them.