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Old 10-02-2008, 01:39 AM   #1
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Her we go......

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/financial_meltdown
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Old 10-02-2008, 01:40 AM   #2
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Old 10-02-2008, 01:41 AM   #3
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Old 10-02-2008, 01:42 AM   #4
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Maybe we can thwart this with our minds or is too late, I am going to telepathically send messages to these guys, would that help., could everyone do this.
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Old 10-02-2008, 01:43 AM   #5
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Is it officially passed or is there another step somewhere?
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Old 10-02-2008, 01:46 AM   #6
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BUT....doesn't it now have to go back to the house? Do they have to approve? Please correct me if I am wrong.

My Senator from WI, Russ Feingold voted NO. Thanks Russ, if you're reading this forum.
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Old 10-02-2008, 01:47 AM   #7
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The House has to pass the same exact bill the way it's wriiten.
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Old 10-02-2008, 01:51 AM   #8
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When is the house vote?
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Old 10-02-2008, 01:53 AM   #9
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I think they said tomorrow night or Friday
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Old 10-02-2008, 01:55 AM   #10
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Friday the bill goes back to the house. Let's keep on our Congressmen. Jessie Jackson, Jr. voted NO.
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Old 10-02-2008, 02:14 AM   #11
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It's going to be 806 billion now, how 'sweet'....

Imagine how much better the economy would be if they had just given us the 806 billion dollars, divided among 300 million people that would be $2686.67 for everyone, of course all of the people under 18 wont get it - that would go to the parents to split.

Shouldn't it be common sense that businesses need customers and not money? Money is the result of customers, congress really messed up.
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Old 10-02-2008, 02:15 AM   #12
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hah, proving again the screwed world we live in.... things are moving fast now.
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Old 10-02-2008, 02:16 AM   #13
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Senate may pass and the House may Not Pass this upcoming Bill to help save a bunch og stuff related to things that can hurt you seriously without their commitment in terms of far more yahs than neys. Camelot's interviews of important people months and months before hand told us all what was going to strike.

This mess, unfortunately, cannot pass with a simple 7B bill. This will and has already affected billions around the world and in the end will stagnate some economies including your-own. Just to try and fathom GWB's Presidency's total failures..can't set the loss in place. And you know what?, Bush2 knew what he was doing in repayment for the millions of dollars he got to be elected and re-elected. Obama better not allow (grant) any sort of Pardon for Bush 2.
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Old 10-02-2008, 02:16 AM   #14
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Back to the "House" eh? Well, let me share a visual idea. In my meditation this afternoon, I let my mind come up with a vision to focus on for peace and what came was a vision of the White House, I and many others were doing something of a hands on healing above it. I could see all the different hands and many rays of light. Moving closer and into the house, I confess I am embarrassed to say, I even saw myself and others give Bush and Chaney a hug. (don't puke!) It was like a poison to them and they cringed, but could not duck the LIGHT!

I know love alone doesn't cure all, but thoughts do have a tendency to become things! Together a great medicine.

At any rate, I was able to keep that focus for a good 20 minutes. It became ammusing really.
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Old 10-02-2008, 02:24 AM   #15
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I believe it will fail again in the house.


This monster has gone from a three page emergency measure to a 435 PAGE monstrosity.

FOUR HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE PAGES TO HIDE THEIR LIES AND DESPERATION WITHIN.


people are going to hopefully shop this off at the knees before it totally ruins the average american.

This is passed for one reason; to keep the rich rich, and middle class americans as slaves.
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Old 10-02-2008, 02:31 AM   #16
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are these "sweetners" to the bill considered earmarks? if so has john mccain just dug his own grave??
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Old 10-02-2008, 03:53 AM   #17
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are these "sweetners" to the bill considered earmarks? if so has john mccain just dug his own grave??
No. He cares not what he says.

he has already met with LaRaza a week ago and told promised them that he would go against the will of 70% of the American citizens and push Amnesty through as soon as he becomes POTUS.

There is funding in this bill for LaRaza. LaRaza for you folks that do not know supports the overthrow of the southwest states and wants them returned to Altzan. LaRaza translates into "The Race". Nice, hugh?

Funding for ACORN....which arguably is one of the biggest reasons (along with incremental banking laws themselves) that "we" are in this mess right now.

There is no "teeth" in the oversight committees that were hastily added to this bill. They can watch Bernanke and Paulson steal again and again but do not have the power to do anything to stop them.

Since the Fed has no money...and they MUST abide by Basel ll (Google it) laws.....we (the taxpayers) MUST now bail out European banks. I must have missed that little foot note in our Constitution where it says I gotta bail out foreign banks....silly me.

And finally, this bill does absolutely nothing.....Squat, Jack chit to CORRECT one single thing that caused this whole mess in the first place. It leaves the same flawed structure in place, unchanged. All the systemic problems that enabled this fiasco to happen are still locked in place. Again, now there is "oversight"...but nothing anyone can do about anything. No recourse. None.

Mcinsane said he would not vote for it if there was "pork" in it. This is way beyond the sausage folks......this is outright theft and the handing over of the last bit of sovereignty of the US...to the "FED" ...the criminal banking syndicates

The perfect financial storm.

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Old 10-02-2008, 04:05 AM   #18
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Let's consider the 7B will pass through both houses. Then the **** happens anyway. Perhap's just not a total stock market crash but a denunciation of both US Currency and Borrowing. Just to a lesser degree.
Hold on to your ass. Buy a safe and hold your money tight as unfortunately, it may be one terrible ride, for years.
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Old 10-02-2008, 04:06 AM   #19
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Phallic Craniums they are.
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Old 10-02-2008, 04:41 AM   #20
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Phallic Craniums they are.
You mean Cone Heads?
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Old 10-02-2008, 09:05 AM   #21
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I believe it will fail again in the house.


This monster has gone from a three page emergency measure to a 435 PAGE monstrosity.

FOUR HUNDRED AND THIRTY FIVE PAGES TO HIDE THEIR LIES AND DESPERATION WITHIN.


people are going to hopefully shop this off at the knees before it totally ruins the average american.

This is passed for one reason; to keep the rich rich, and middle class americans as slaves.
If this is passed for one reason, the reason is to save total and utter economic collapse. The rich remaining rich is just an unsavoury by product.

Now then, everybody has been saying that an engineered economic collapse is something that those behind the scenes WANT. For collapse = no value of money = desperate people = riots = an excuse to bring in martial law.

Sooooooo...........if thats the plan then why are they trying to avert the economic collapse that they WANT?

It makes no sense.

I can only conclude that 95% of average joes around these sorts of sites are full of BS. Possibly mentally ill/paranoid/you name it. I'm sorry, but this is how it is starting to look to me.
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Old 10-02-2008, 04:42 PM   #22
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PLEASE WATCH THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ItC_nT4rS8

it goes back in on friday -
FOR A FINAL VOTE
and, LETs dream, its a NO

i am TOTALLY and COMPLETELY shocked
in the lack of interest
and, support that people are showing
from people like Larry Nichols, and, Waterman,
and, many others, who are knocking themselves out,
in order, to try to create awareness on this important issue

and, yet,
many people are more concerned
with other things

and, seem to have plenty of energy
& time, to do other things???

this shocks me, esp. since i am NOT even an american,
however this does have global impact

and, what is this $800 ameros ???
on there way to china,
where did they cook them up ???

and, this http://www.spp.gov/

i will NOT be around here for awhile
my dad is close to the end of his life,
and, i also have a retreat this weekend,
so, if i am missing-that is why

PLEASE WATCH THIS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ItC_nT4rS8

love
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Old 10-02-2008, 10:48 PM   #23
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If this is passed for one reason, the reason is to save total and utter economic collapse. The rich remaining rich is just an unsavoury by product.

Now then, everybody has been saying that an engineered economic collapse is something that those behind the scenes WANT. For collapse = no value of money = desperate people = riots = an excuse to bring in martial law.

Sooooooo...........if thats the plan then why are they trying to avert the economic collapse that they WANT?

It makes no sense.

I can only conclude that 95% of average joes around these sorts of sites are full of BS. Possibly mentally ill/paranoid/you name it. I'm sorry, but this is how it is starting to look to me.
Unless the measure was introduced in such a way as to make it fail. The Brits did a similar thing with Australia at Federation- let us as a country with our own constitution sure, but not only is it poorly worded, but set up in such a way that it's near on impossible to change.

This bailout package is nothing more than deflection- introduce a bill you know will fail so as to look like things aren't really as they are. Furthermore, judging by your last post, it would appear that the deflection is working here.
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Old 10-02-2008, 10:50 PM   #24
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it goes back in on friday -
FOR A FINAL VOTE
and, LETs dream, its a NO

i am TOTALLY and COMPLETELY shocked
in the lack of interest
and, support that people are showing
from people like Larry Nichols, and, Waterman,
and, many others, who are knocking themselves out,
in order, to try to create awareness on this important issue

and, yet,
many people are more concerned
with other things

and, seem to have plenty of energy
& time, to do other things???

this shocks me, esp. since i am NOT even an american,
however this does have global impact

and, what is this $800 ameros ???
on there way to china,
where did they cook them up ???

and, this http://www.spp.gov/

i will NOT be around here for awhile
my dad is close to the end of his life,
and, i also have a retreat this weekend,
so, if i am missing-that is why

love
the eXchanger

Then of course, there's the fact that a completely devalued greenback would justify completely changing over to the Amero as the US' national currency.
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Old 10-02-2008, 10:53 PM   #25
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I can only conclude that 95% of average joes around these sorts of sites are full of BS. Possibly mentally ill/paranoid/you name it. I'm sorry, but this is how it is starting to look to me.

I studied economics at A level. I believe this is possibly the most unsound 'bail out' ever devised. Why? Because the bill has a clause which states clearly that banks need to hae ZERO, 0, NO, NONE, NADA deposits to cover their loans.

Do you realise what that means? They can lend 55 million in electronic digits, and not have even 1/1,000,000 of that amount in their 'bank' to act as security.

In short? if you went and wanted £1,000,000 in cash, they could point blank refuse and say 'we don't have it now or ever' and there would be nothing you could do about it. You would still be an 'electronic' millionaire, but in assets you could trade with another human in a real time environment? you would be as poor as a homeless dude.
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