The Truth Behind 2012 and the NWO- please read

[Shellie]

I just want to put my own two cents in on 2012.

Everyone out there is either 1) freaked or 2) waiting for some kind of ascension or rapture

I think that 2012 is nothing. The Mayans made a calendar, it has some very interesting astrological facts in it, but I am not convinced that they thought any more about it than that. Maybe the calendar ends because they just got tired of doing all the math!

I do agree however that our society and this planet is changing RAPIDLY. People don't deal with it very well both because we were not designed for such rapid change but also because of how much harder our institutions make it for us. When people feel out of control they get scared, and they cling to any sort of "absolutes" they can find for the future. I think this is why the whole Armageddon scenario is popular amongst Christians and Muslims and why secular/spiritual but non-religious people get into the scenarios of 2012 (even though it scares them more because they can't figure out which it's going to be- Nibiru, pole shift, nuclear annihilation etc).

People, we are being intentionally fed BS on 2012 to keep us scared and to keep our minds focused on THEN and not NOW. People are finally waking up to the reality of the Illuminati, and there is no way they can keep us from learning more about them without bringing more suspicion on themselves- so they attempt to distract us instead. If we are in a state of fear like after 9-11, then we cannot possibly be in our right minds to see what is really happening, and we cannot possibly create solutions. They created, and then spoon-fed us, 2012. They are using our own fears to enslave us, and all we keep feeding the fear to ourselves and each other.. like a perpetual motion machine that is snowballing downhill.

2012 will be what we make of it- it will be a self-fulfilling prophecy. If we are afraid and focused on it 24/7, then who knows what kind of crap we are inadvertently going to create for ourselves? If we see it as something positive for change, then the visions and hopes for what we expect to see and experience in 2013 and beyond is what we will strive for and create. I think 2012 is going to be the ultimate test of Reality Creation. Let's NOT focus on December 21, 2012; let's focus on what we hope will be life after. Environmental stewardship, spirituality, compassion, sustainability, free energy, peace, trust, hope, and awakening to the reality of our Selves. We have the tools and the abilities NOW. This stuff isn't going to magically materialize in the aftermath of an extinction-level event. People are spending all of their free time to create these things NOW.

And if you are in the US, please wake up and see the amazing opportunity here. Nowhere in the world to people have less to lose and everything to gain by switching paradigms! So we lost our jobs, our economy is falling apart, our government is corrupt, we are mentally and physically ill, entire generations are spiritually starved and there is a major loss of hope... People, there is no better time and place to make the steps in the right direction. We led the Industrial Revolution- a revolution that made us sick. Now we can correct things and start a Holistic Revolution, to make us and the planet well again.

Please wake up! While we can create WHAT happens in 2012, we also can determine WHEN and WHERE. Let's do it HERE and NOW. Let's not wait until 2013. Clean house. Mend relationships. Forgive each other. Forgive yourselves. Share (what goes around comes around). Help each other. Grow a garden. Turn off the TV. Walk or ride your bike. Stand up for your neighbor. Pour your heart and soul into everything you do. Reduce your energy dependence. Reduce your need for money. Meditate. Stop watching violent movies and playing violent video games.

We don't need to fight the New World Order, we just need to make it irrelevant. Our fear, our rigidity, and our co-dependence feeds it. If we don't need money, if we don't need energy, and if we can trust and help each other, then NOTHING can control us anymore.

Wake up. We will only be free when we ALLOW ourselves to be free. Nothing can control us when we realize it is okay to NOT be controlled.

LET IT HAPPEN.

[MartyMcFailure]

You ever see ghost stories/movies where the place is haunted because it was built on an ancient indian burial ground. thats the USA. We may not be personally responsible for atrocities done in our name... but we are part of the group soul of our country and I believe we chose to be incarnated here and at this time. I WISH 2012 would sweep us all up into the 4th dimension, but I'm not so sure either. Have you ever read the john Titor material. i find it fascinating and very likely. he said he was a time traveler from 2036 and he talks about civil war, world war III and the nuclear wreckage of the us. but its positive all in all as technology survived and society is decetralized and back to basics. family and community are top in importance

[Katherine]

Hi there.....

Only after I read 'Shock Doctrine' by N. Klein, did I understand how the mind works and how we can so easily be led like sheep - through 'shock' events! We can be so easily manipulated and so quickly believe what the media and the government tell us - it's all part of the master plan. Read the book and you'll understand all - and never again believe anything you read or are told ! All is as it should be.

Love and Light
K

[doodah]

[QUOTE=99Boogies;11678]

The Mayans made a calendar, it has some very interesting astrological facts in it, but I am not convinced that they thought any more about it than that. Maybe the calendar ends because they just got tired of doing all the math!

Before you make a firm opinion on all this, check out the information on the Mayan "serpent ropes." Not too many people have read about this other part of the 2012 picture. It's a very interesting view of what happens in 2012. We've been through the galactic center before, but almost all records have been destroyed. This suggests something pretty amazing.

Clean house. Mend relationships. Forgive each other. Forgive yourselves. Share (what goes around comes around). Help each other. Grow a garden. Turn off the TV. Walk or ride your bike. Stand up for your neighbor. Pour your heart and soul into everything you do. Reduce your energy dependence. Reduce your need for money. Meditate. Stop watching violent movies and playing violent video games.

We don't need to fight the New World Order, we just need to make it irrelevant.

All this is absolutely excellent advice. Yes. Do it now. We're way late on this.

[Irving]

Originally Posted by Katherine

Hi there.....

Only after I read 'Shock Doctrine' by N. Klein, did I understand how the mind works and how we can so easily be led like sheep - through 'shock' events! We can be so easily manipulated and so quickly believe what the media and the government tell us - it's all part of the master plan. Read the book and you'll understand all - and never again believe anything you read or are told ! All is as it should be.

Love and Light
K

I am about 150 pages into that book and I am very impressed. I do not agree that free market capitalism is at fault though, as she insists. And I do not think that we need more regulation. Socialistic principles do not work because big business ends up controlling the regulations that supposedly keep an eye on them. If we had a true republic, which would be about 90% smaller than our current government, and if we had a true free press that did it's job - free market capitalism would work out great. People like G Edward Griffin and Ron Paul have the answers to all of this in my opinion. Aside from not agreeing with her political ideology, that book is incredible at showcasing the "shock doctrine" and how entire populations are shocked into being a blank slate on which to write new social designs upon.

As for 2012 and the NWO, I have certainly thought that 2012 could be an elite hoax. Something tells me that it is not, but who knows. I guess you can pretty much drive yourself crazy thinking about all of the different possibilities. As far as you really know, you are the only one that exists and life is an elaborate dream and illusion, right?

I sometimes can get a bit cynical about the immediate future because it can be so difficult to sort through all of the various possibilities and disinformation. It makes me feel like George Carlin and hardly be able to contain myself until civilization falls apart. I simply cannot wait. I mean, I do have lots of love and compassion for others and their health and safety, but I'm sick of waiting! When is the sky going to fall dammit!? haha. I'm serious. I'm ******* ready, lets go. Get this show on the road. I do, of course, want peace and harmony and free energy and a golden age to come in due time - but I think we are entitled to a period of total anarchy right before that arrives, don't you?



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[Shellie]

I am familiar with John Titor and other stories similar to his. There seems to be a pretty good agreement amongst people concerning what the world will look like after 2012, though no one can exactly agree what all is going to happen. Whatever it is, it will be huge!

Why worry about 2012 when there is a big possibility that there will be another false flag "terrorist attack" within the next two months that could set off Martial Law? What good is trying to figure out Planet X and what it might do when the US just backed out of a nuclear treaty with Russia last week and there are now Russian pilots regularly making patrols to the US? Our currency and food grid are being manipulated, oil and gas prices are being manipulated, chemtrails are being sprayed NOW. If we spend so much time preparing for a pole shift four year from now, are we going to be ready if something happens next week? If we are waiting for some kind of ascension, what makes us think we are even going to be alive 4 years from now to even "ascend"??? This is practice time! We have been given a warning, let's use our time!

The gardening skills you learn now will help you starting now... the same with alternative energy and learning community and social skills. The point of my post is how ridiculous it is for people to buy seeds and them bury them in the basement. Do you even know if they will grow? More than 80% of what is sold in the US is hybrid and it will not reproduce past the first generation. Wow, that is not something I want to learn come spring of 2014!

If you do not take care of your body and mind now, how will you cope with the events that may occur in 2012? When the roads are blocked and you need to get out of town, can you carry a 60-pound hiking pack with 20 days worth of food a few hundred miles? What about your kids? What kind of mental break down will occur if you find yourself dirty for weeks on end and sleeping on tree boughs? Will you eat the bugs? Can you navigate without a compass after a pole shift? What if the people you encounter don't speak English- can you speak another language? Can you fix that fancy power generator you just bought? Do you know what it is like living in an underground bomb shelter? If you have one, practice for a few weeks. Practice hauling your water around in buckets and washing your clothes by hand. Learn how to make soap. Learn outdoor survival skills and urban survival skills. Learn to live better with less. The world WILL be better after 2012... but you have to work hard in order to be one of the few who will get to see it.

[Katherine]

Hi all.....

Irving - I haven't laughed so hard as I did when I read your post. Right on! I too, am tired of waiting....bring it on. Well, maybe not so much. I still have things to prepare Also....keep reading! It's an incredible book....a real shocking eye opener

99Boogies - awesome post. You're absolutely right and I'm glad I can do alot of the things you mentioned - from milking cows in my 'younger' days to making butter and starting fires. Not sure about the long hike with the pack....but maybe soon. Great food for thought. Thx

Love and Light
K

[Mike_Jetson]

That was expected to occur on the old timeline if you subscribe to timeline changes, which i do. I see no nukes being set off ever again

[Irving]

Wow, is there really language censoring going on on this forum? Shouldn't this forum, of all places, be opposed to censorship?

[doodah]

Irving: I don't know what you are referring to, specifically, but I'd like to offer how I feel about the general topic of censoring language. I don't think thought is being censored here. You can talk about anything you want to.

But I think this forum is a great deal about "tone," and nothing creates more contentiousness and discord than swearing, if that's the kind of language you are referring to. There is a great deal of energy in those words, negative energy.

This should be the one forum where positive energy prevails, even though people are expressing strong viewpoints. It is possible to express strong viewpoints without drawing negative energy. Be aware of the power of language! It's a really important issue.

[Irving]

Originally Posted by doodah

Irving: I don't know what you are referring to, specifically, but I'd like to offer how I feel about the general topic of censoring language. I don't think thought is being censored here. You can talk about anything you want to.

But I think this forum is a great deal about "tone," and nothing creates more contentiousness and discord than swearing, if that's the kind of language you are referring to. There is a great deal of energy in those words, negative energy.

This should be the one forum where positive energy prevails, even though people are expressing strong viewpoints. It is possible to express strong viewpoints without drawing negative energy. Be aware of the power of language! It's a really important issue.

Right on. I totally understand where you are coming from.

I was referring to my previous post from this thread. I was just a bit surprised that it got edited, thats all.

[pilot]

[QUOTE=Irving;11992] Socialistic principles do not work because big business ends up controlling the regulations that supposedly keep an eye on them.[QUOTE]

Don't we already have this? In that case you're correct, it's not working.

[EYES WIDE OPEN]

does it bug anyone else when people state the threads they start as fact, when in reality its personal opinion?

[Irving]

Originally Posted by EYES WIDE OPEN

does it bug anyone else when people state the threads they start as fact, when in reality its personal opinion?

You must be bugged easily. haha. jk

Originally Posted by EYES WIDE OPEN

does it bug anyone else when people state the threads they start as fact, when in reality its personal opinion?

Yes, I agree with you. There are many people who state their opinions regarding 2012 as though they know for certain that nothing at all will happen. How can they possibly know this?
Are they fortune tellers? Can they actually see into the future? How can they possibly judge a culture that existed thousands of years ago? How can they realistically determine the reason that the calender ends in 2012?
Many are now saying they are feeling an increase in energy levels or vibrations. Why shouldn't the possiblitly exist that these energies will reach a culmination point once our solar system has reached alignment with the center of the galaxy? Perhaps the indigenous people of old WERE onto something? Can we try to keep an open mind? I hate when people say "nothing will happen in 2012". How about using a little tact and saying something to the effect of "I don't BELIEVE that anything will happen in 2012". It also sounds much less arrogant.

[Humble Janitor]

Pay no heed to my username. I simply chose it because I am not good at choosing usernames.

Regardless, I believe that something may happen in 2012 and I feel a personal urgency to get my affairs in order so that I will be prepared for whatever will come about. It could be yet another year but it does not hurt to be prepared. Part of dealing with change in life is conditioning yourself to understand that there will be changes and that you may not be able to handle them well at once. It's all about personal validation and looking inside of yourself to analyze your thoughts and figure out how you are going to deal with things.

We all do it every time there's a major change in our lives.

And deep down, I hope that 2012 is the year that we defeat the menaces that control our world, that control power and keep people suffering.

Originally Posted by End_Times012

I hope that 2012 is the year that we defeat the menaces that control our world, that control power and keep people suffering.

Here, here, brother! (or sister) That is the goal. My hope is that Mother Earth will reach a point in her vibration that'll force the collective consciousness of humanity to ascend to the next level, rendering the controller's power utterly impotent.

[izz]

Originally Posted by 99Boogies

. We led the Industrial Revolution-.

are you sure about that ?
I think you will find that was Britain !

Nice post otherwise though