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Old 09-29-2008, 01:46 AM   #76
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So does this mean you'll attend the meeting???
Take care and please let me know.
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Can't promiss anything but I shouldn't have plans for that day it would realy just depend on my mood on the day and if I got enough adiquiet sleep the night befor.

However I'm NOT wearing a "Australian Ground Crew" Shirt lol I'm not walking through Frankston with one of those on @.@
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Old 09-29-2008, 02:21 AM   #77
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Hello 311 saint,
I very much appreciate you attending the meeting, thank you.
I'll be attending the conference for all 3 days with my son. I doubt very much I'll see every speaker though. I want to have a bit of fun while there, but I'll definitely attend when the speakers have something to contribute to the goals or ideals of Project Avalon. I'll **** in your ears and everyone elses about it at the meeting.
Since you don't get on the internet much, I'll PM you with my phone numbers just in case.
Also have a look in here from time to time, as the actual date of the meeting may change. Might pay you to call me a few days before the meeting, if you can't get on the net, just to confirm the date.
Take care and I look forward to meeting you.
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Old 09-29-2008, 02:28 AM   #78
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Hello ForsakenFalcon,
Not a worry if you can't make it, I don't want to push you, as I suffer from severe depression myself, and sometimes is a struggle to do anything at times.
But if you could make it, that would be fantastic.
As for not wearing a tee-shirt, that's fine. Its optional only, but does make it easier to know who's who when we first meet.
Take care my friend.
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Old 09-29-2008, 02:52 AM   #79
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I'v been thinking lately that My grandparent's owne a nursery at hasting's I wounder if I should buy a ****load of bulk vegitible and fruit seed's? I'd oviously get them mega discounted lol.
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Old 09-29-2008, 04:16 AM   #80
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I'v been thinking lately that My grandparent's owne a nursery at hasting's I wounder if I should buy a ****load of bulk vegitible and fruit seed's? I'd oviously get them mega discounted lol.
Definitely worth it. Especially with the Mega discount.
Any chance you can get some prices on seeds??? I'm willing to pay normal retail prices. I don't expect a discount.
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Old 09-29-2008, 04:26 AM   #81
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I'll find out but with if I do get bulk I mean like box loads worth and I'd have enough to share them out to ppl here lol
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Old 09-29-2008, 07:00 AM   #82
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24th October is fine. The sub committee idea is great, but firstly lets just get together so we can sort these kind of issues out. Meet and greet, I'm sure we all have a lot to say. Let the collective conscious begin.
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Old 09-29-2008, 08:23 AM   #83
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24th October is fine. The sub committee idea is great, but firstly lets just get together so we can sort these kind of issues out. Meet and greet, I'm sure we all have a lot to say. Let the collective conscious begin.
That's terrific.
Yes we'll definitely have heaps to yak about.
So, lets set this date, but it won't be 100% until approval from others.
OK. Can I get affirmatives from everyone who wishes to attend on the 24th of October '08 at 2:00pm. To meet in the Melbourne City Square on the corners of Swanston and Collins Streets.
Take care all and I'll post up a list.
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Old 09-29-2008, 08:50 AM   #84
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Hi DarkMatter and Co.,

Just confirming 24th Oct, 2008 is A-OK with us..."us" being Lt Ripley and sister (Krissy).

I work Mon-Fri, 9-5, so I'm available on weekends to do whatever. Most likely, I'll drive in and park the car at Crown Casino for $6.00. I take the stinking public transport during the week and I look forward to actually driving my car for a change...and less funky smells.

So yeah, I'm all good. I'll put it in the calender so I don't forget.
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Old 09-29-2008, 08:52 AM   #85
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PS: We're from the south-east, past Dandenong.

I'm all for sub-regional meetings and such, but I feel we should establish a central base to start off with. Plus I think this would be a great opportunity for everyone to meet and see each other face to face.

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Old 09-29-2008, 09:01 AM   #86
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Talking Victorian Ground Crew Meeting

1st Meeting of the Project Avalon Victorian Ground Crew


To be held on Saturday the 25th of October 2008 at 2:00pm
Location: Melbourne City Square
Attendees:
DarkMatter (John) - Deer Park
AussieG - Box Hill
Lt Ripley - Dandenong
Don'tPanic - Dandenong
Peace2all - Warrandyte
Robski - Thomastown
ForsakenFalcon & Friend - Controlling The Iron Beast!

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All you Victorians should have you names on this list. People from other states or country visting Melbourne are welcome to attend also.

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Old 09-29-2008, 09:16 AM   #87
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Sweet

Looks good DarkMatter.
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Old 09-29-2008, 01:03 PM   #88
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Yipee!! well done Darkmatter I'll spread the word, I hope the square will be big enough.
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Old 09-30-2008, 09:16 AM   #89
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Hey DarkMatter,

Count me in.

One exception tho: I look rubbish in white, therefore my sister is making us black T-shirts that will say "P.A. GROUND CREW" on the front. As I'm typing this, she also asked if we should wear foil on our heads....smart ass.

I work in the city so I'm familiar with the meeting place.

If anyone wants my mobile phone number in case of a change or whatever, PM me and I'll send it to you.

See you guys soon.
WELL, I thought the foil hat idea was good until I realised the scientologists may think we are mocking them and they might attack us

I'm Krissy HALLO! I'm looking forward to the meeting!
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Old 09-30-2008, 10:13 AM   #90
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Hello Krissy and welcome to the Victorian Ground Crew Thread, and of course, as a member of Project Avalon Forum.
Looking forward to meeting you and sis.
Take care and I hope to see you posting like crazy.
Best regards,
John
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Old 09-30-2008, 10:27 AM   #91
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To ALL Victorian Ground Crew Members
I spoke on the telephone with sirdiablo69 last night for about an hour, and he had some very interesting and great ideas on how to go about things when it comes to crunch time. Unfortunately he cannot make it to the meeting on the 24th, and I understand fully his reasons. But hopefully he and I will meet up personally to discuss things in more detail, to which I will relay to all attending the meeting.
Take care all and peace be with you.
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P.S. We need more members to pledge themselves for the meeting. So far the response has been a tad poor. DON'T worry we won't bite.
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Old 10-01-2008, 10:37 AM   #92
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BUMP

Bumping this thread so that it can be seen by others interested in coming along to the 24th Oct meeting,
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Old 10-03-2008, 05:37 PM   #93
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Gday All,
l would like to ask all of you how do feel. Specifically how does it feel when you entertain the doomsday scenarios provided by the whistleblowers. Im not just talking about what say as much as what those events really portray in there entirerity. l personally take most or the whistleblowers testimonies quite seriously even though l sincerely hope none of the events come to pass, l insist on making as many preparations to try and offset the disavantages we could easily encounter, for example l am trying to stockpile water in the likelyhood of temporay or longterm unavailability, even though we currentlly enjoy an abundant supply of mains water, and the list seems endless sofar as trying to cover even basic requirements.
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Old 10-04-2008, 01:59 PM   #94
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anyone got a spare room to rent? =O
lol I may have to start looking for a new place soon >.>
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Old 10-05-2008, 01:02 PM   #95
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Hello Pomguymguy! Yes you are up near me and living where my ancestors lived actually I think there are still some rellies there . Kerang was another place, they went forth and multiplied. Lmao

sirdiablo69 I agree with you and think it's a good idea that you store water and food of course and candles/torches.batteries for a start.

ForsakenFalcon Sorry hun wish I could help but afraid not.

All you guys that are meeting in Melbourne hope you have a good day and come up with a plan. Things are starting to get rather urgent. Afraid I won't be able to make it (health issues) and a long way to travel. But I wish you all the best of luck.

Peace to you all.
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Old 10-06-2008, 04:52 AM   #96
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HI ALL

I've heard about this forum from a cobber in Vic, There is plenty of info on the net covers just about anything of interest.

I'm into liberating it to!! I've put this together from various sources
lternative Home Cleaning Solutions

In an effort to cut down the number and toxicity of the chemicals I use around the house, I've stocked up on a few safe, simple ingredients that can be used in most cleaning situations.

Table of contents

* Basic ingredients
o Baking soda
o Corn starch
o Soap (not detergent)
o Borax
o White vinegar
* When something a little more aggressive is needed.
o Isopropyl Alcohol
o Washing Soda (SAL Soda, sodium carbonate decahydrate)
o Citrus solvent
o Trisodium phosphate (TSP)
* Cleaning
o All-purpose cleaner
o Mold and mildew
o Dishwashing
o Dishwasher Soap
o Oven cleaner
o Laundry
o Glass cleaner
o Cleaning porcelain and fiberglass
o Drain cleaner
o To clean a teakettle
o To clean pots and pans
o Fire extinguisher residue
* Disinfectant
* Removing stains
o Carpet stains
o Wine and alcohol stains
o Blood stains
* Deodorizing
o Cooking odors
o Refrigerator odors
o Spilled milk odors
o Drain and garbage disposal odors
o Garbage pail odors
o Odors around the house
o Urine odors
o Toilet bowl odors.
o Humidifier odors
o Carpet odors
* Keep clean without running water

Basic ingredients

Baking soda

* Cleans, deodorizes, softens water, scours.

Corn starch

* Cleans, deodorizes, scours. Use to clean windows, polish furniture, clean carpets and rugs.

Soap (not detergent)

* Unscented liquid, flakes, powders or bars.

Borax

* Cleans, deodorizes, disinfects, softens water, cleans wallpaper, painted walls and floors. I keep some in an open container next to the kitchen sink, ever ready to dip a dish cloth into to clean a pot, the counter, etc. It makes a good non-abrasive alternative to scouring powder.

White vinegar

* Cuts grease, removes mildew, odors, some stains and wax build-up. I keep mine handy in a spray bottle.

When something a little more aggressive is needed.

Isopropyl Alcohol

* A disinfectant. Use with care - there is evidence it can cause illness.

Washing Soda (SAL Soda, sodium carbonate decahydrate)

* Cuts grease, removes stains, softens water, cleans wall, tiles, sinks and tubs. Be careful, washing soda can irritate mucous membranes. Do not use on aluminum.

Citrus solvent

* Cleans paint brushes, oil and grease, some stains. Use with care; may cause skin, lung or eye irritations.

Trisodium phosphate (TSP)

* A mixture of soda ash and phosphoric acid, it can be used on many jobs, such as cleaning drains or removing old paint. Use with care; TSP is toxic if swallowed.

Cleaning

All-purpose cleaner

Mix 1/2 cup vinegar and 1/4 cup baking soda (or 2 teaspoons borax) into 1/2 gallon (2 liters) water. Store and keep. Use for removal of water deposit stains on shower stall panels, bathroom chrome fixtures, windows, bathroom mirrors, etc.

Mold and mildew

A mixture of lemon juice or white vinegar and salt can be used to clean up mold and mildew. Or try mixing one part hydrogen peroxide (3%) with two parts water in a spray bottle and spray on areas with mold and mildew. Wait at least one hour before rinsing or using shower.

Dishwashing

Use liquid soap (not detergent). Add 2 or 3 tablespoons of vinegar to the warm, soapy water for tough jobs. Use borax instead of a dry cleanser to clean pots and pans. Borax is not abrasive. Wash fine china in a solution of borax and warm water. Rinse well. Towel dry. The china will sparkle.

Dishwasher Soap

Mix equal parts of borax and washing soda, but increase the washing soda if your water is hard.

Oven cleaner

Try a paste of baking soda, salt, and hot water.

Laundry

To freshen and brighten laundry and remove soils and stains add 1/2 to 3/4 cup of borax to each load together with the recommended amount of laundry detergent. For stains, presoak for half an hour. Borax also works to condition hard water.

For delicates, hand wash in a solution of 1/4 cup of borax and 1-2 tablespoons of detergent in a basin of warm water. Rinse in cool water, blot with a towel, and lay flat to dry.

Glass cleaner

To clean glass I spray on white vinegar and wipe dry.

Cleaning porcelain and fiberglass

Wipe with borax on a damp sponge, rinse, and wipe dry.

Drain cleaner

Try pouring a quarter cup of baking soda down the clogged drain, followed by a half cup of vinegar. Close the drain tightly until fizzing stops, then flush with boiling water.

To clean a teakettle

I discovered this one by accident. To brew a pot of pine needle tea instead of pouring hot water over pine needles in a teapot, I tossed the whole branch in the tea kettle and brought it to a boil. The tea was delicious. A few brews later as I was removing a branch to put in a fresh one for the next brew I noticed the lime deposits in the kettle were soft and mushy. With a bottle brush and good rinse the deposits came right off the kettle. So there you are. Cut a branch off your favorite eastern white pine tree, wash it well, and toss it in the kettle to boil for a while. Voila!

To clean pots and pans

I saw this tip somewhere but haven't tried it yet. To clean a stubborn pot or pan put some water and a little baking soda in the bottom of the pot or pan and bring it to a boil. Let it soak overnight and then wash it in the usual way.

Fire extinguisher residue

To clean up dry chemical fire extinguisher residue use:

* Vinegar & water for the bicarbonates
* Alcohol for the silicates

Disinfectant

Mix 1/4 cup borax with 1/2 gallon hot water. Use for wiping surfaces.

Removing stains

Carpet stains

Mix equal parts white vinegar and water in a spray bottle. Spray directly on stain, let sit for several minutes, and clean with a brush or sponge using warm soapy water.

Wine and alcohol stains

Dissolve 1/2 cup of borax in a pint of water. Sponge on the solution and wait a half hour. Then shampoo the stained area. Let dry and vacuum up the borax. The sooner these stains are addressed the better.

Blood stains

Get to work right away. Remove blood stains as soon as you find them. Try this. Use cold water. Hot or warm water will cook the blood and set the stain. If the stain is fresh, soak with cold water, scrub with a clean brush and blot dry. Repeat until the stain is gone. If the stain has been there a while try rubbing in shampoo, let it sit a while, scrub with a clean brush, then rinse with cold water. Repeat as necessary. For blood stains older than 24 hours, soak the material in cold water for about 1 hour then proceed as above.

Deodorizing

Cooking odors

Simmer vinegar (1 tbsp in 1 cup water) on the stove while cooking to absorb cooking odors. To get such smells as fish and onion off utensils and cutting boards, wipe with vinegar and rinse.

Refrigerator odors

Wash the refrigerator with a solution of borax and water. Rinse well.

Spilled milk odors

To neutralize spilled milk odors, dampen the spot and rub borax on. Let it dry then brush or vacuum up the borax.

Drain and garbage disposal odors

To eliminate drain and garbage disposal odors put 2-3 tablespoons of borax in the drain, let stand for about 15 minutes, then flush with water with the disposal on. Borax neutralizes acidic odors.

Garbage pail odors

Wash the garbage pail with a solution of borax and water. Sprinkle some borax in the bottom of the pail to keep it fresh.

Odors around the house

A mixture of baking soda with vinegar or lemon juice placed in small dishes will absorb odors around the house. Houseplants can help too.

Urine odors

To neutralize urine odors, dampen the spot and rub borax on. Let it dry then brush or vacuum up the borax. Use to neutralize pet urine odors also.

Toilet bowl odors.

Add 1/4 cup of borax to the bowl. Swish it about with the toilet brush and let stand 30 minutes (or overnight).

Humidifier odors

Wash with a solution of borax and water. Rinse well before refilling for use.

Carpet odors

Baking soda and cornstarch are both good carpet deodorizers.

Keep clean without running water

With some baking soda, a little vinegar, and a gallon or so of water it's possible to keep your body and hair clean when away from a source of running water. While boondocking in an RV for instance and you want to extend your stay.



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Alternative Household Cleaning Solutions
for Septic System Owners

Many of the ready-made solutions we purchase to clean and maintain our homes contain poisonous or toxic chemicals. While the labels on these products contain signal words (caution, warning, danger or poison) to alert us about proper use or potential harm, many do not list the chemical ingredients in the product or hazards associated with the chemical. These chemicals can damage the effectiveness of your septic systems by killing the bacteria that breakdown the sewage sludge in your septic system.
There are safer alternative cleaners. The basic ingredients listed below can be mixed or used alone for many household cleaning tasks. Also, in the event of an accident, these ingredients can be identified by most consumers and healthcare professionals.

SELECTED BASIC CLEANING INGREDIENTS

Ingredient


General Use

Baking Soda


cleaner, deodorizer, fire extinguisher, scouring powder

Boiling Water


drain cleaner

Borax


cleaner, disinfectant, laundry aid, water softener

Lemon


cleaner

Salt&


cleaner

Soap


cleaner

White Vinegar


cleaner, deodorizer, grease cutter

Washing Soda


cleaner, laundry aid, grease cutter, stain remover, disinfectant

The following "recipes" offer less toxic alternatives to common cleansers.

ALL PURPOSE CLEANERS

1. Mix 1 teaspoon borax with 1 quart of warm water. Add a splash of lemon juice or vinegar to cut grease.
2. Mix 2 teaspoons borax and 1 teaspoon soap in 1 quart of water. Can be stored in a spray bottle.
3. Mix 3 tablespoons of washing soda per quart of warm water.

DISINFECTANT

1. Mix ¼ cup borax in 1/2 gallon hot water.

DRAIN CLEANERS

1. Prevention is the best method. Use a drain strainer. Do not pour grease down the drain.
2. For maintenance, pour about 1 gallon of boiling water down the drain weekly.
3. Pour ½ cup baking soda and ½ cup vinegar down drain. Close drain tightly until fizzing stops. Flush with one gallon boiling water.

FLOOR CLEANERS

1. Wood or vinyl floors – mix ¼ cup oil soap with 1 gallon of warm water.

METAL POLISHES

Brass, Bronze, and Copper

1. Mix equal amounts of salt and flour with a small amount of vinegar. Rub with a soft, damp cloth. Rinse and polish with a dry cloth.
2. Make a paste of lemon juice and salt and rub with a soft cloth; rinse with water and dry.
3. Use a slice of lemon sprinkled with baking soda. Rub brass with the lemon slice; rinse with water and dry.

Silver

1. Rub with a paste of baking soda and water.
2. Place a piece of aluminum foil to cover the bottom of pan. Add 2 to 3 inches of water. Add 1 teaspoon baking soda and 1 teaspoon salt per quart of water and bring to a boil. Add silver pieces and boil 2 to 3 minutes. Make sure the water covers the silver pieces. Remove silver, rinse, dry, and buff with a soft cloth.

OVEN CLEANERS

1. Prevention. Put sheet of aluminum foil on the oven floor. Be careful not to touch the heating element.
2. Mix 3 tablespoons of washing soda per quart of warm water. Spray on and wait 20 minutes. Scrub with a fine steel wool pad if necessary.

TUB, TILE AND TOILET CLEANER

1. Use soap and sponge, or a stiff brush and one of the following: baking soda, borax and salt.

WINDOW AND GLASS CLEANERS

1. Mix 1 part water to 1 part vinegar in a spray bottle. Wipe off with cleaning cloth.

WOOD POLISHES

Think Ill go get nosey elsewhere

Collect your tit bits where ya find um I say
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Old 10-07-2008, 02:01 AM   #97
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lol thanks AussieBabe but as far I'm safe I dunno how long for though =/
/sigh liveing with physophrenics is a nightmare at time's @.@
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Old 10-07-2008, 03:39 AM   #98
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HI ALL

Melbourne No i got sick of that place twenty years ago.

A safe place ? well unless i knew for certain what was coming, I;m not going anywhere.
No POINT not at this time
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Old 10-07-2008, 04:33 AM   #99
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Hi All, Just joined this site but have been watching Camelot for some time. Was disappointed to find out too late that they were in QLD on weekend. Anyway we are from Melb. Warrandyte area. Have you noticed chem spraying in your area and people getting sick? Great to see kindred spirits exists in Melb!!!...Pep
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Hello All:Greetings from the Sunshine Coast

Hi to all,
Just a quick message from DarkMatter and KellyNUTS.
Im using the Sunshine Coast airports internet waiting for our flight back to Melbourne.
I have to say that the Nexus Conference was absolutely fantastic and I will be writing up a story on it as soon as I can.
Ive got an interview with Bill and Kerry on audio tape which goes for a couple of hours. I will transcribe it, then get Bill to post it up on the Project Camelot site for people to download. Give it a few days, as Im not sure when Bill can upload it
I have to say it was absolutely awesome to meet Bill and Kerry, and we had a bit to talk about.
KellyNUTS and I have met many wonderful people and it was a weekend to remember.
Got to get going now as we have to board our plane. Look forward to chatting with you all again soon.
Take care all and peace be with you.
Best regards,
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