How Do You Feel About This Forum? (Avalon)

[Allie]

I'm a girl, 2infintiy.

Where is the evidence? I say this in a tone of respectfulness.

Is it a view you have of the characteristics of a dis-info 'agent'? I may be wrong, but I'm honestly not sure this is reliable.

It just didn't gel with me that the evidence you appeared to cite was 'being friendly' , 'popular', 'freedom of speech', 'infestation'. Sure, I'd agree those can be 'tactics' - but they might equally mean a genuinely friendly, popular person who supports freedom of speech.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

this forum is meant to be about how to form groups and help each other. i think there could be less cross posting. i think there is too much BS on here. this is meant to be about preparing physically and spiritually. i think we could cut down on the multiple threads of then same stuff, tighten it up a bit.. especially the ground crew forum .. it should be here to inform people of events that may or may not lead to futhter happenings. warnings,politics is not needed. ie zeitgeist pie in the sky horse ****

[2infinityandbeyond]

Originally Posted by Allie

I'm a girl, 2infintiy.

Where is the evidence? I say this in a tone of respectfulness.

Is it a view you have of the characteristics of a dis-info 'agent'? I may be wrong, but I'm honestly not sure this is reliable.

It just didn't gel with me that the evidence you appeared to cite was 'being friendly' , 'popular', 'freedom of speech', 'infestation'. Sure, I'd agree those can be 'tactics' - but they might equally mean a genuinely friendly, popular person who supports freedom of speech.

Hey allie, hows bein a girl goin for ya? always wanted to be one for a day.

Well allie, i was making an observation. It wasnt a call to get everyone all paranoid, just stating that ive noticed quite a few people here who on the surface seem very cool people but over time, viewing their posts ive noticed a pattern of behaviour towords certain subjects that makes me feel somewhat suspicious.

I dont want to provide evidence of any kind, that would cause trouble because i could be wrong about certain observations. I was asked how i felt about the forum and thought id explain why i felt this way. Those traits i explained were just some of the things that aroused my supicion, i dont normally make my opinions so lightly.

[Humble Janitor]

A lot of off-topic threads are moved to Project Camelot and as a result, this place doesn't seem to be TOO crowded with such stuff.

[777 The Great Work]

This forum is perfect, whole and complete
Everything flows, out and in; everything has its tides; all things rise and fall; the pendulum-swing manifests in everything; the measure of the swing to the right is the measure of the swing to the left; rhythm compensates

Everything is Dual; everything has poles; everything has its pair of opposites like and unlike are the same; opposites are identical in nature, but different in degree; extremes meet; all truths are but half-truths; all paradoxes may be reconciled.
By Correspondence


All natural effects are from spiritual causes. All is spirit

[371]

Just an observation:
I think some people might be crying 'disinfo' when someone just doesn't agree with some of our 'common' beliefs.

Like someone who say... has no problem with a one world government? Then they post links and give reasons why they think it's not so bad. That's not disinfo, its a differing opinion. There's nothing wrong with that, I can't say I agree on that specific issue but I'm just using it as an example.

It's like the saying goes: "If two guys agree on everything, you can know that one of them is doing the thinking".

Kevin,
It is my understanding, correct me , please, if I am wrong, that Project Avalon was created only to find safe places for people to live and resources and sites to be offered towards building safe communities. All other topics were to be left in Project Camelot forum. Perhaps, and this is only a suggestion, if all other categories were placed back in Camelot this would help.

Alexandra

[khristmaskathy]

I am one who really loves Project Avalon. I have visited other sites, but this is by far the best one! Most everybody is kind and one gets the feeling of belonging, so to speak. I enjoy hearing a variety of opinions , even if I don't agree, I still care what others think. The political threads do not bother me at all; we are about to experience an election for goodness sake. It's on the minds of everyone so it should be okay to express feelings about what is going on! Keep up the great work, Project Avalon, and thanks to everyone who posts! I have been a member since October 5th but it seems longer, because I am really comfortable on this forum.

Hmmm. how to respond without causing any upset ....

well, as a new person around here, but having read the threads for some few weeks now, I have mixed views...

Firstly, I was thrilled to find Avalon a few weeks ago, and find a lot of things on here very interesting..

I also have a whole pile of personal experiences/ 'phenomena' that I thought I would at some time like to share with others on here... but having never discussed these things in public before, that is quite a BIG step for me! But I felt encouraged when I found this place that Avalon was the place to chat about what's been happening to me recent years.

However.. I must say that I've been really taken aback sometimes by the level/tone of quite a few posts.. the comments made and the tone of some postings... (and, I'm sorry and reluctant to say, the seeming lack of moderation when such things occur).

It has made me wonder whether to stay and share my experiences and learn form others... or run for the exit door at times!

To me personally, it seems as if what started out as potentially an amazing space for people to come together, learn and teach each other, and grow and join together, has become infested to some degree with some very vociferous EGO maniacs, also quite a lot of what appears (to me anyway) to be some kind of intellectual / spiritual point-scoring or one-upmanship, a fair smattering of superiority-complexes, quite a bit of ridiculing others, not to mention one whole heap of JUDGEMENTALISM going on here at times....

It is such a shame to see it happening..

I thought I had finally found somewhere I could safely chat with people, share my very personal experiences of things spiritual/beyond this world.. gain some insights / new learnings / support and also give those same things in return to others...

But I have to say.. having seen the way quite a few threads get started ( innocently) and end up with a large smattering of vitriol, judging and condescending to others, I have thought twice about posting in here at all!

I only hope and pray that all this Ego stuff, the point-scoring, personal attacks and gripes, people who feel they are "superior" in some way to others, aggression, the nit-picking and so on, sorts itself out.. and soon .. so this valuable forum can truly become a safe and sharing place for all who seek further understanding / enlightenment / knowledge / wisdom.


If we can't chat/debate in a spirit of peace and light in this forum, God help us outside of here in the 'real' world.... let alone the world beyond this one!!

[Malletzky]

Should we be honest? Well then, both PC and PA forum is a wonderful place where a human (or a wanderer, or whatever ) could learn his "missing" lessons. And we have so much to learn .

No one here have the completely picture of what is happening to us. And therefore, I'm very proud to be around, as mostly, the members here are really nice and give their wisdom and knowledge to another.
Each one participate with their own thruth, and this is how we're gonna learn the WHOLE that IS!!!

But....

...as I allready mentioned in one of my previous posts
( check that here: http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...60557#post6055 ),

I have a feeling that there a few members here, who try to divide...

Trying to look "cool" and stating the own point of view as the ultimate truth is just leading to displeasure by others.

There are so many good threads around with realy good issues, which deserve to be discussed more then ever. But there are obvious some "big guns" around here which, if they don't like the subject (could be for many reasons), they just don't participate. If they don't participate, so other "friends" also don't. Or they post their ulimate thruts out there and there you have it, the thread "dies".

The displeasure could lead to resignation and members will go away to other forums.

Sorry for my honest words...

[sunflower]

By the time I got around to reading this thread I found that practically everything was said and well said at that. So all I can say at this point is that I look forward to reading the threads on Avalon and if I found one I don't agree with or dislike I just leave. I really prefer to pick up pertinent info and leave discussion to others. There's nothing wrong with discussion and for those members who enjoy it go to it. Just be friendly and polite. Don't jump on someone who is genuinely offering his or her personal testimonial. Don't belittle someone else just to feel a bit more justified in your own personal beliefs. Truth is relative depending on one's point of view.

So, Kevin, yes, I do enjoy this forum and what it stands for.

[Reunite]

I am very grateful for this forum as it has manifested great friends for me already. I have met over 10 members in person so far and share an unseen connection.

I have a question for Kevin or another mod in regards to the forum interface.

I use a PC at work and everything appears to remain the same. At home I use my mac and the interface has changerd only twice on random occasions to a white background with green lettering and a completetly different layout all together. Are you trialing a new interface or am I going nuts?

[PodWORLD]

I like the forum and I'm glad its here.

U think we need to remember that it's only a couple of months old and still working itself out. To be honest in the 'good old days' which were literally days ago there was a lot of fighting and disagreement so that's not new.

The forum was set up for reasons that wouldnt necessarily jive with the people it would first attract - Project camelot viewers - so some fracture is completely normal.

I think it's a shame that tongues werent sheathed more in regard to the 'witnesses' who helped create the interest and funds which in turn created this forum. Can't say I agree with some of them but it would be better if they were still on here I think.

As for disinfo agents I abhor this term as much as the dreadful 'sheeple'. These terms are thrown around and usually by experienced forum users which tells the story I think. Sometimes it's too easy to misunderstand a typed message and we need to chill out I think and be more forgiving too.

[Gareth]

Originally Posted by Reunite

I am very grateful for this forum as it has manifested great friends for me already. I have met over 10 members in person so far and share an unseen connection.

I have a question for Kevin or another mod in regards to the forum interface.

I use a PC at work and everything appears to remain the same. At home I use my mac and the interface has changerd only twice on random occasions to a white background with green lettering and a completetly different layout all together. Are you trialing a new interface or am I going nuts?

The PHP script, from which this forum is written, reacts according to your browser type and operating system.

Certain functionality may or may not be available to any particular browser and may manifest itself in, what would seem to be, unusual ways such as layout.

[Reunite]

Originally Posted by Gareth

The PHP script, from which this forum is written, reacts according to your browser type and operating system.

Certain functionality may or may not be available to any particular browser and may manifest itself in, what would seem to be, unusual ways such as layout.

Thanks Gareth I will throw out my medication now

This site is fantastic!

Keep it up!

[Pomguymguy]

Originally Posted by 777 The Great Work

This forum is perfect, whole and complete
Everything flows, out and in; everything has its tides; all things rise and fall; the pendulum-swing manifests in everything; the measure of the swing to the right is the measure of the swing to the left; rhythm compensates

Everything is Dual; everything has poles; everything has its pair of opposites like and unlike are the same; opposites are identical in nature, but different in degree; extremes meet; all truths are but half-truths; all paradoxes may be reconciled.
By Correspondence


All natural effects are from spiritual causes. All is spirit

To be here is a privilege for me, on Bill and Kerry's 5* Forums. I got here from doing extensive research into health issues. My wife of 36 years has been dealing with a life threataning illness - so I wanted to know why there was not a 'cure' - I found answers, lots of alternative treatments that have been available for years and years- this lead me onto other cover-ups - and here we all are - all looking for the truth ? ( some maybe not so!)

We have so many people with expert knowlege in specialised area's that others are (were) totally clueless about. Many diffrent levels of being 'awake'
at many, many diffrent levels of 'Knowing"- I have not yet been able to upgrade my 'Knowing' to be able to have an OBE - many have. We all have that potential, so much work needs to be done.

There has been much Tit -for -Tat Ego Bashing going on - that is because we still have lots more to learn to get anywhere near the level we should already be at.
Don't forget we have been kept in a dumbed down state in so many area's of our lives. Lots of catching up to do, to be able to see the BIG PICTURE.
I have personally found so much very informative information here that I am sure you would not find in any other place on the net.
Maybe it would be a good idea to take a couple of days to reflect at where you are now, compared to when you first got to know about Bill and Kerry.

Some of the postings still seem rather silly, e.g. When someone makes comment about the 'Government' - So what 'Government' would that be then?
Do you mean the 'puppets' we see in the mainstream media ? - or do you mean the 'controlling forces' that prod the puppets with sharp sticks when they want them to jump ?

All the diffrence's of opinion just show how many of us are at various stages of learning who -what and why.

I just say to Bill and Kerry I am honoured and humbled by being able to be here in this moment and know that there are a few like minded souls (and not so like minded souls) bothering to pass on their knowlege, so we can all put into practice the real reason we ever came here on planet Earth at this time, and past times too.

If you are not sure what that is - then you too do not know 'everything' and need to do a bit more homework...

I am going back through some of the information I have "pulled off the Camelot/Avalon forums and it just blows me away ! But my overall perspective to life on Earth, and beyond, is very diffrent to how it was just a few short months ago.
I appologise to the one's higher up the ladder of learning, but us 'lower ranks' will all get there in the end, with each others help - thanks a bunch - ALL of you

Paul R time for a

Originally Posted by Kevin

Thank you members. Keep it coming. This will help the Mod team and
administration know how you are feeling. We want your stay
at Avalon to be a rewarding experience.

i wasn't gonna complain, but since you asked....
i try to be as compassionate as i can, however
the volume of christianity posts is wearisome as
are the bash-the-candidate ones. I would be
hoping to see more real solutions and less ego gratification.

[J_rod7]

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Hi Kevin, and Warmest Greetings to All,

I voted choice 'B' = Satisfactory, and could be Improved. I was a little Surprised to see that this is the Majority Opinion.

IMO, the Forum has been spread too thin, with a proliferation of Sections and Threads. This has created a 'Jungle' for anyone trying to navigate to appropriate areas of common Interests.

There is a need to gain some 'control' of this Proliferation. Consolidate various similar Threads into DEFINED Format Sections. Any further postings should then only be allowed to go into appropriate Established Sections.

In other words, No New Threads. Post in those Sections already 'Fixed' for the desired Topic. Moderators may Close sections, or Create New Sections from time-to-time, as the interests of the members may change.

My Two Cents

Peace - Out

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[arcora]

I am tired of seeing posts that I don't agree with and don't interest me. This forum needs to be about me and me only. When will all the other members learn that they are here to serve me and that when they post information that I am not interested in it makes me mad and all I need to read is information that confirms what I believe and makes me feel good about myself.

[Oneworld719]

Hi Kevin,
Great question...I love it when ever anyone asks 'how do you feel' I myself have enjoyed greatly the information that is here, and as posted by others have gained so much knowledge and information. I also look through all the posts and take what is applicable and move on if not. I love the fact that this forum has such a variety of people from all over this wonderous plant. Whew, it's awesome to know I'm not alone in the never ending search. Having such varied thoughts, opinions,and beliefs helps me see we as a people are amazing. My hope for all of us here is to finally move to a unity of consciouness, a unity of humanity. To all: your insights, wisdoms and feelings are greatly appreciated by myself.
Thank You
Namasta

[alternative-answer]

Originally Posted by Topper

AA, check out the thread, America's greatest fear not yet realized. I would like your take on it.

Will do, I'll come back to you.

[Norval]

I am still thinking about this as well, , , sooooo, unsure?

[Jenny]

Hi,

I am the mod who moves all the election propaganda to Off Topic.
It is propaganda, not serious political stuff.

Serious political stuff has a place here..imho.


and I feel this is a great forum. And it should be a free of charge forum as well.

Jenny

[raulduke]

Originally Posted by arcora

I am tired of seeing posts that I don't agree with and don't interest me. This forum needs to be about me and me only. When will all the other members learn that they are here to serve me and that when they post information that I am not interested in it makes me mad and all I need to read is information that confirms what I believe and makes me feel good about myself.

I know what you mean.

, but seriously I do. We're here to make connections and exchange info right? Not glorify our egos......checking our "reputation counter" frequently.
I'll climb back up on my high horse now, to say that I just noticed that this even exists as an option after reading this response in the "Will you leave if the Forum becomes paid" thread, from a PA researcher w/ some thin skin I guess.

Originally Posted by Baggywrinkle

I will leave if Avalon doesn't become a paid service.

In fact, I already did.

The poll suggests that 81% of the respondents have no business
posting at Avalon, as proven by the porn tantrum thrown by
excalitber last week. Just because I left, doesn't mean I wasn't lurking.

Some suggestions for the administrations discussion

-If technically viable, Avalon remains available for all comers on a read
only basis. This way no one is denied critical information.

- paid subscribers are held to a higher standard leaving the food fight of the open forum and entering a classroom/library environment. Serious participants only. I left when I was attacked
personally for voicing my opinion. Attacking the individual rather than
the argument is inappropriate. I can find this behavior at any roadhouse bar. Mods, please see my reputation counter for documentation.

That is my opinion. You are welcome to attack it. Attacks directed at me personally will not be tolerated.

I understand the need to address personal attacks, but from what I've seen they're not extremely frequent, and much of the time members can work these spats out before the mods decide to jump in.

IMO it's worth trying to civilly address those who "attack" you, and try to get to the heart of their problem. Give them a second, third, fourth, chance.
I've learned much here from people that I respect, but still disagree w/, but only because of much dialogue.
If they remain childish and refuse to respond civilly to your questions then.........guess what.......you can ignore them........who cares what random people say about you on the internet. Honestly. If we continue to ignore the irrational posters, they will find some other outlet for their tantrums and need for attention.

And really, who checks thier "reputation counter", or even knows how to?