Go Back   Old Project Avalon Forum (ARCHIVE) > Project Avalon Forum > What’s Going Down > What Does It Mean ?

Notices

What Does It Mean ? What does this all mean for the Ground Crew ?

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 11-10-2008, 12:04 PM   #1
Antaletriangle
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: U.K.
Posts: 3,380
Default MPs seek to censor the media nov10th.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...a-1006607.html
I think that most of us agree that the mainstream media are in full compliance with the powers that be in what they report as important for public knowledge,the news below appears to bring out the cenorship into the public sector.The national security mantra in full swing;what a surprise?

Exclusive by Kim Sengupta
Monday, 10 November 2008


Britain's security agencies and police would be given unprecedented and legally binding powers to ban the media from reporting matters of national security, under proposals being discussed in Whitehall.


The Intelligence and Security Committee, the parliamentary watchdog of the intelligence and security agencies which has a cross-party membership from both Houses, wants to press ministers to introduce legislation that would prevent news outlets from reporting stories deemed by the Government to be against the interests of national security.

The committee also wants to censor reporting of police operations that are deemed to have implications for national security. The ISC is to recommend in its next report, out at the end of the year, that a commission be set up to look into its plans, according to senior Whitehall sources.

The ISC holds huge clout within Whitehall. It receives secret briefings from MI5, MI6 and GCHQ and is highly influential in forming government policy. Kim Howells, a respected former Foreign Office minister, was recently appointed its chairman. Under the existing voluntary code of conduct, known as the DA-Notice system, the Government can request that the media does not report a story. However, the committee's members are particularly worried about leaks, which, they believe, could derail investigations and the reporting of which needs to be banned by legislation.
cont.on link above.
Antaletriangle is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 12:29 PM   #2
Harper
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Paris
Posts: 467
Default Re: MPs seek to censor the media nov10th.

Hello triangle,

You know this is such a difficult one for me as I know loads of really well respected journalists and they are not hiding or being censored, they are simply not investigating the subjects that we discuss here at all. Its not in their realm of reality. you may have seen this video already, when the BBC reports that building 7 had fallen a half hour before it did. Well I don't think that any journalist could have been involved in that.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mxFRigYD3s

I mean why on earth would they go live on air with a picture of said building in the background. I think its more likely a dodgy PR cover company sent in the story and perhaps no one at the organisation was responsible at all.

Its so so hard to find out who or what could have been directing the whole thing? What do you think. Of course you may know that most of the paperwork which could have brought a lot of fraudsters was "lost" in that building.
Harper is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 12:38 PM   #3
Tuza
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Re: MPs seek to censor the media nov10th.

Even if journalists wanted to report the truth their not allowed to and that is that.
  Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 01:48 PM   #4
Steve_A
Project Avalon Moderator
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Northeastern Brazil
Posts: 1,259
Default Re: MPs seek to censor the media nov10th.

Hi Antaletriangle,

Mainstream media is exactly that mainstream. It's the 'Bay City Rollers' (if you are old enough to remember) of the news.

A Yugoslav man once said to me years ago when I lived in the UK that he was envious of the English, because when they got their daily paper, they would turn straight to the back page and look at the sports, then they would look at the TV pages and the more horney men would turn to page three.

He said that in Yugoslavia the people would look for the political pages first, then the headlines, which were normally political, and the last pages they would read were the sports.

What does this mean? It means that the typical English guy doesn't want to know about 2012, or global economical collapse, they just want to go to work, go home, watch telly and on Saturday go to a football match. That is their world.

As for the new measures about what can and can't be published for national security reasons, I would have thought that journalists that would want to publish information that would put the UK in any danger should be fired. Remember that we talk only about information that could affect national security.

I remember back in the old days when in the UK certain words were not allowed to be said because they could have been construed as racist or sexist. Consequently, we no longer had balckboards in schools, we had chalkboards, we no longer have man hole covers in the streets, they are people protection covers. Enid Blyton books (the "Five" series) were banned from libraries because they were considered sexist. Even Noddy and Big Ears more recently have come under scrutiny. Are we to assume that the powers that be wanted to control our free speech?

Names of alleged criminals are not to be published in the press. Names of convicted criminals may be. The police frequently ask the press not to publish information about cases that they are currently investigating so as not to prejudice their work and the possibility of making a collar.

What I'm trying to get at here is that there are and still need to be certain rules and regulations in the popular press to better the quality of life, even though I thought that banning Enid Blyton was stretching it a bit far.

I think hiding details that protects criminals wrong. That's if the crime was big enough to make the national press. I do think, however, that the hiding of certain information to benefit national security is something positive.

Best regards,

Steve



Quote:
Originally Posted by Antaletriangle View Post
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...a-1006607.html
I think that most of us agree that the mainstream media are in full compliance with the powers that be in what they report as important for public knowledge,the news below appears to bring out the cenorship into the public sector.The national security mantra in full swing;what a surprise?

Exclusive by Kim Sengupta
Monday, 10 November 2008


Britain's security agencies and police would be given unprecedented and legally binding powers to ban the media from reporting matters of national security, under proposals being discussed in Whitehall.


The Intelligence and Security Committee, the parliamentary watchdog of the intelligence and security agencies which has a cross-party membership from both Houses, wants to press ministers to introduce legislation that would prevent news outlets from reporting stories deemed by the Government to be against the interests of national security.

The committee also wants to censor reporting of police operations that are deemed to have implications for national security. The ISC is to recommend in its next report, out at the end of the year, that a commission be set up to look into its plans, according to senior Whitehall sources.

The ISC holds huge clout within Whitehall. It receives secret briefings from MI5, MI6 and GCHQ and is highly influential in forming government policy. Kim Howells, a respected former Foreign Office minister, was recently appointed its chairman. Under the existing voluntary code of conduct, known as the DA-Notice system, the Government can request that the media does not report a story. However, the committee's members are particularly worried about leaks, which, they believe, could derail investigations and the reporting of which needs to be banned by legislation.
cont.on link above.
Steve_A is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 08:04 PM   #5
Swanny
I dont need a label !
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: The Shire of Wilt
Posts: 2,889
Default Re: MPs seek to censor the media nov10th.

They've always censored what we can read about.
I was working in PNG in 94 and used to talk to my friends back home about things that were happening in the UK but they didn't know anything about it.

Always amazes me how aggressive people get when you put forward the idea that 9/11 was staged, anyone with half a brain should be able to work that out
Swanny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 08:20 PM   #6
dreamangel
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Tennessee
Posts: 34
Default Re: MPs seek to censor the media nov10th.

The mainstream media is so corrupt that they are going to tell you what they want you to hear anyway. Usually it is right off of the talking points of who ever they support. They censor themselves as to not **** anyone in power off. They don't care about your average person anyway.
dreamangel is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 08:28 PM   #7
Swanny
I dont need a label !
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: The Shire of Wilt
Posts: 2,889
Default Re: MPs seek to censor the media nov10th.

What amazes me about the UK is that people are interested in what people like Jade Goody and Pete and Katie do....
If they so much as fart it's in the news
Swanny is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 08:32 PM   #8
smat
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 128
Default Re: MPs seek to censor the media nov10th.

Can someone else please check for me, is I cannot connect to youtube
I live in the uk and at 20:20 gmt youtube went down on me. I was on there for an hour or two, but now I cannot connect.
I will update you when I can connect again.
smat is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 11-10-2008, 08:36 PM   #9
smat
Avalon Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: UK
Posts: 128
Default Re: MPs seek to censor the media nov10th.

false alarm, I can connect again now.
smat is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 06:37 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Project Avalon