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Old 10-20-2008, 03:03 PM   #1
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to "wake up" other people so that they can see ,with their own eyes ,what is going on around us. I gave a hint to my sister ,who lives in another European country, and immediately she showed interest in this matter. Now she's spreading the news among people she knows.I'm trying to convey the message to people I know( so far I 've convinced only one of my neighbours to start reading and get informed) but they always seem to have other more exciting things to do like: watching their favourite TV programs or working overtime. I encourage them to see at least one video or go to one site and then see if they are interested or not. their best excuse is I "didn't have time". My sister apparently has similar problems.
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Old 10-20-2008, 03:33 PM   #2
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You cannot force someone to learn. You can make them aware that there is more to this world than meets the eye - then their response is up to them.
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Old 10-20-2008, 03:34 PM   #3
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Yea I know what you mean. Here where I live people just think I'm straight up crazy. They look at me out of the corner of their eyes, they whisper to each other...blah,blah,blah. But because I know what's up I just smile, send them love and remind them in my own humorous way-someday when it all is shown you will remember what that crazy lady was saying and realise she was right-. If nothing else I've planted a seed, now it's up to them to nuture it. Keep smilin, it makes them wonder what your up to now.
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Old 10-20-2008, 03:41 PM   #4
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You need to understand that we are living on a young soul planet. The greatest number of those who are waking up are actually wanderers - if you know what that means. This third density reality has been so well designed to suck inn consciousness and hold it down in its fragmented grip. After writing three books on the nature of consciousness and society, believe me this is a universal story - I mean it covers the entire planet.

I have found, or attempted to find, a solution. I wrote a small book that is only 22 pages long - it is an entertaining metaphor that I call "The Game" - about life and its hidden structures. This is for those that dont have time to read any more than they can digest in 30 minutes. It might get their interest up. You can down load it free at: http://www.acnlp.no/textsider/Englis...blications.htm

The other free books there require thinking and that is hard for a lot of people.

Pulling a third density consciousness out of the matrix when it is grown up is an extremely worthy, but tiresom task. good luck
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Old 10-20-2008, 04:52 PM   #5
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Burgundia -- I remember my own resistance to awakening. Several years ago when I asked a more-awakened friend why it was so difficult to get our government to tell us what pesticides were used on our food, she said to me: "It's the Illuminati. They're trying to kill us all."

I remember completely backing away from that statement, not knowing how to respond to her. She sounded so sure and it sounded so improbable.

I realized later that there are many such statements that people will back away from. For instance, that petroleum is the most poisonous substance on this planet. Or that millions of dollars in illegal drug money supports black ops projects in the US.

When people back away, they have hit a wall in their own minds. I now believe that that wall is "conditioning" or "brainwashing." We find it very difficult to think beyond that wall. Using my two examples above, to believe that petroleum is poisonous requires that you believe you have been lied to; to believe that drug money supports black ops requires that you believe that you have been lied to. And then you have to do a ton of research to "prove" it to yourself.

People do not want to believe that they have been lied to. Suddenly realizing you have been lied to makes most people furious -- and then there is no outlet for that fury.

Awakening can in some ways be very discouraging until people realize that they have personal power. They can fight their own individual fight against the big system in as many ways as they can find to do that. In some cases it's as simple as a refusal to cooperate -- growing your own food, for instance, or only buying local organic food; or buying a bicycle, or changing jobs.

As Metamike said, it's a tiresome job to pull a third density consciousness out of the matrix. Really it's like de-programming.
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Old 10-20-2008, 05:13 PM   #6
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i mention it to freinds and family.. 5 months ago my mum thought i was nuts when i said get all your money out of the bank and buy gold.. now my step dad asks me "so whats going on in the worlkd today" hes very interested.. they are old and i expect to see my mum die and family 'sigh' because they just cant bleive some elite group is about to try and wipe us all out with avain flu and ww3..

i siad to people at a similar time i have info you are not ready for yet.. see me in a few months.. some of them are still not ready.. as much as it hurt at first to leave them to it that is what we must do.. as things unfold these people will come to us..

i feel honoured to have fully awoken 2 of my friends and semi awoken 3 others.. in time we will be the light beacons of knowledge and safe haven.. we can calm their fears with knowledge.. its up to them what they do next
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Old 10-20-2008, 05:37 PM   #7
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"If someone is called upon to learn something which contradicts what they already think they know — particularly if they are committed to that prior knowledge — they are likely to resist the new learning."

Cognitive Dissonance
http://www.learningandteaching.info/...dissonance.htm
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Old 10-20-2008, 05:55 PM   #8
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I have partially 'awoken' some members of my family, as they have been directly affected by the predictions I warned them about!
But still, my mother is very aware, and warned me not to delve too far, but to do what we need to do now, she is not afraid. However, as they are older and resigned to the 'other side' (as she says), they seem to have no fear. Meanwhile, I do not want them to be suffering due to lack of resources, etc.
The rest of my family are slowly realising love matters most, and there is a lot more contact. As long as we keep in touch, and take care of each other and our neighbours - I think that is what matters - that should surely set a great standard for all!
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Old 10-20-2008, 06:00 PM   #9
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Burgundia -- I remember my own resistance to awakening. Several years ago when I asked a more-awakened friend why it was so difficult to get our government to tell us what pesticides were used on our food, she said to me: "It's the Illuminati. They're trying to kill us all."

I remember completely backing away from that statement, not knowing how to respond to her. She sounded so sure and it sounded so improbable.

I realized later that there are many such statements that people will back away from. For instance, that petroleum is the most poisonous substance on this planet. Or that millions of dollars in illegal drug money supports black ops projects in the US.

When people back away, they have hit a wall in their own minds. I now believe that that wall is "conditioning" or "brainwashing." We find it very difficult to think beyond that wall. Using my two examples above, to believe that petroleum is poisonous requires that you believe you have been lied to; to believe that drug money supports black ops requires that you believe that you have been lied to. And then you have to do a ton of research to "prove" it to yourself.

People do not want to believe that they have been lied to. Suddenly realizing you have been lied to makes most people furious -- and then there is no outlet for that fury.

Awakening can in some ways be very discouraging until people realize that they have personal power. They can fight their own individual fight against the big system in as many ways as they can find to do that. In some cases it's as simple as a refusal to cooperate -- growing your own food, for instance, or only buying local organic food; or buying a bicycle, or changing jobs.

As Metamike said, it's a tiresome job to pull a third density consciousness out of the matrix. Really it's like de-programming.
Wonderful posts in this thread so far

I woke up around April, since then I've been researching like mad. I quit driving and bought a bike, still gotta get rid of my car.. took out one of my piercings because it was a physical hazard. Quit drinking alcohol and only eating local organic foods. Next is quitting cigs and becoming more active in life. The bike is really helping with that. Plus a lot of my friends here have bikes so we go on adventures often

What's funny to me is that, though my younger sister came to me with knowledge that further stirred my curiosity, she hasn't done much research. So now every time we talk, I fill her in on all the current things that are happening to me and around the world. I leave the info up to her discernment and such. It's a great challenge to me to give her positive information, she tends to put up a mental block on a lot of negative information. This is great, as I have grown up being extremely negative and I need every moment to change that.

So far.. I've helped my roommate awaken (sort of), he knows about what's happening but he drowns his mind in video games, work, sexual thoughts, and alcohol too often. So many times when I try to bring something up, he tells me he doesn't wanna hear it. So be it.

I've helped about 5 of my friends wake up, though I could feel they were already starting to, I think that my awareness has helped them to speed up some of theirs as they have done for me. I have a couple friends who will listen to my information but they don't believe any of it or basically don't care. Regardless though, they will actually listen to what I have to say and I appreciate it so much.

I've told my mom everything I know, she doesn't believe any of it but she'll listen to it anyway. Those who listen, but say they don't care.. I believe that when they're listening, that I may be getting this information to them in someway. Perhaps their higher self is listening? Perhaps a part of them knows? But if a person doesn't want to hear it, I won't push it at all. Mutual respect and respect of others choices is important.

No one said it would be easy I've been ridiculed, given bizarre looks, bewildered looks, and friends or acquaintances getting reeeally upset over any subject they think is impossible. I don't even know how to have a normal conversation with anyone anymore..

Here's an embarrassing story.. Last month I biked up to Pizzahut to hang out with my friend who works there. It was close to midnight so he was getting off work soon.. I'm sitting in there, bored as hell, my other friend is building a gundam model and there's these two people sitting to the left of us, talking about the elections and Hillary Clinton. I was tired and probably delusional from all the research I'd been doing but I thought I heard them talking about the NWO. So, with little thought, I got up and walked over to them and said "Sorry, excuse me, are you guys talking about the implementation of the New World Order?" ......They just stared at me and shook their heads and looked at me as if I was mentally ill. With their quiet "umm..no.." Anyway, I probably upset them by allowing them to know I was sort of listening to their conversation (no privacy) and then of course.. what I had asked them. So I said "You're.. not talking about that? Ahhhh.. sorry nevermind" and I went back to my seat and started laughing, at myself. I don't regret that situation at all (I don't regret anything) but that's definitely not happening again But someday when they see it all happening, maybe they'll remember that psycho chick at Pizzahut Sheesh, judgments..

Love you guys, may the force be with you, always
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Old 10-20-2008, 06:05 PM   #10
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Excellent thread.

Thanks for the links to your ebooks, Metamike. I will download and read.

Usually what I get is a "whatever......" like I so full of it, they won't even consider what I'm talking about.

I too believe that sometime in the future, the awakened will lead with light in the darkness. There is a reason we've been blessed with information of what is really going on.

What I find interesting is that sometimes it's apparent something is about to happen...only it doesn't happen. Was that because the information was flawed or was the plan subverted somehow with white knight/light beings working against the negatives? I believe plans are constantly changed due to the good fight we're fighting.
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Old 10-20-2008, 06:24 PM   #11
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It is a very hard job to wake up some people. I'm finding it strange that a fair few of my older friends are so stuck in their ways that I can't get them even to listen to me - it is as if they have gone through their lives with their eyes closed - it's amazing really. I have a lot of younger 'green' friends and they are just the same when it comes to globel warming - keep telling people - the info is out there - use Google for something other then porn.

I think most of us know that something is really up with the world - they feel it, but are too scared - too busy - can't be bothered to do anything because someone else will do it for them. For how long can we hit our heads against a brick wall? I think it' going to take something much bigger the 911 to wake them up - maybe their children dying of bird flu - lets hope not...
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Old 10-20-2008, 07:26 PM   #12
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Wonderful posts in this thread so far

I woke up around April, since then I've been researching like mad. I quit driving and bought a bike, still gotta get rid of my car.. took out one of my piercings because it was a physical hazard. Quit drinking alcohol and only eating local organic foods. Next is quitting cigs and becoming more active in life. The bike is really helping with that. Plus a lot of my friends here have bikes so we go on adventures often

What's funny to me is that, though my younger sister came to me with knowledge that further stirred my curiosity, she hasn't done much research. So now every time we talk, I fill her in on all the current things that are happening to me and around the world. I leave the info up to her discernment and such. It's a great challenge to me to give her positive information, she tends to put up a mental block on a lot of negative information. This is great, as I have grown up being extremely negative and I need every moment to change that.

So far.. I've helped my roommate awaken (sort of), he knows about what's happening but he drowns his mind in video games, work, sexual thoughts, and alcohol too often. So many times when I try to bring something up, he tells me he doesn't wanna hear it. So be it.

I've helped about 5 of my friends wake up, though I could feel they were already starting to, I think that my awareness has helped them to speed up some of theirs as they have done for me. I have a couple friends who will listen to my information but they don't believe any of it or basically don't care. Regardless though, they will actually listen to what I have to say and I appreciate it so much.

I've told my mom everything I know, she doesn't believe any of it but she'll listen to it anyway. Those who listen, but say they don't care.. I believe that when they're listening, that I may be getting this information to them in someway. Perhaps their higher self is listening? Perhaps a part of them knows? But if a person doesn't want to hear it, I won't push it at all. Mutual respect and respect of others choices is important.

No one said it would be easy I've been ridiculed, given bizarre looks, bewildered looks, and friends or acquaintances getting reeeally upset over any subject they think is impossible. I don't even know how to have a normal conversation with anyone anymore..

Here's an embarrassing story.. Last month I biked up to Pizzahut to hang out with my friend who works there. It was close to midnight so he was getting off work soon.. I'm sitting in there, bored as hell, my other friend is building a gundam model and there's these two people sitting to the left of us, talking about the elections and Hillary Clinton. I was tired and probably delusional from all the research I'd been doing but I thought I heard them talking about the NWO. So, with little thought, I got up and walked over to them and said "Sorry, excuse me, are you guys talking about the implementation of the New World Order?" ......They just stared at me and shook their heads and looked at me as if I was mentally ill. With their quiet "umm..no.." Anyway, I probably upset them by allowing them to know I was sort of listening to their conversation (no privacy) and then of course.. what I had asked them. So I said "You're.. not talking about that? Ahhhh.. sorry nevermind" and I went back to my seat and started laughing, at myself. I don't regret that situation at all (I don't regret anything) but that's definitely not happening again But someday when they see it all happening, maybe they'll remember that psycho chick at Pizzahut Sheesh, judgments..

Love you guys, may the force be with you, always

Princess, what an encouraging post. All the posts are great. Thank you all. I have much water under the bridge and made many choices that delayed my wake up. I am still learning more each day. And I thought I knew a lot before. IT has been four or five months and I get mild interest most of the time because others know that I am technical, intellectual, and fairly quiet. They look at me and always wonder whats going on in there. LOL

My 18 year old daughter has taken enough interest to start researching on her own. We sit and talk almost every day and she will sit and ask me to show her something new on the web. Cool!

What really encourages me these days is to see the increasing number of younger ones (I guess I mean 16 to 25 years old) who are searching along this path toward the light. There were many hippies in my younger days who were also on this path but I could never understand the need for drugs to expand the mind and I shied away from them.

One of my best friends is almost 10 years younger than me and enjoys talking with me for hours. But, He holds fast to our fundamentalist Christian roots and always returns there. He circulates around and around falling back on the reasoning that it is all bad and little can be done to change things and what's the use in all this. What encourages me is he has a Scottish, Celtic heritage and there leaks out signs of abilities that want this awakening.

Anyway, more than a few listen, but not many go past giving me, "the look."

Stay encouraged all and peace to you.

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Old 10-20-2008, 08:50 PM   #13
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Waking People Up...

True you cannot force someone... in fact that usually has the opposite effect.

True Earth is home to many young souls almost a 'Kindergarten' That is why Earth is so far away from the main stream even in our own galaxy

It is one reason that 'secret' societies ARE secret... not to keep the info from people, but to present it properly in context to those that are truly seeking answers

It is also why 'false profits' are so dangerous... because a new awakening soul may be sent back into hiding by confusion at all the lies and false disclosures

In todays world we have the internet. The ability to reach millions as in no time before. This also has a down side..

Those with ulterior motives like forming a cult, or seeking profit can pray on those that are beginning to wake. Unfortunately these types have the glib gift of gab and can easily sway the newly awakening and soon become false profits... (The recent GFL thing shows that)

So a tool that should be the greatest info sharing device ever becomes the new Tower of Babel... even the Pentagon, who invented it, is considering it an 'enemy weapon' now...

The way to do it is to be sincere and work hard to research facts before just repeating what so and so says... find out who so and so is, can his story be verified?

Over at another forum we presented many anomalies in Moon photos... you all know the response of most skeptics... "Its only rocks... your nuts"

Well I had one skeptic that I showed the following image too... and he saw it.. leapt out at him and now he can easily spot them in other images...

The point is every person has a trigger which will wake them... in this case it was this single photo...

There is no way to know what will trigger someone... it is that reason that I still continue with my efforts, despite the time and harassment... in the hopes one person finds something in my work that makes them think for themselves

Once the conscious mind block has been broken, the subconscious takes over and they will learn without any more help

Here is the image... maybe lightning will strike twice



The original source from NASA open in a graphic program to zoom in. You will see this without any enhancement... even in your browser. That's what makes this one so great

http://www.hq.nasa.gov/alsj/a11/AS11-41-6156HR.jpg

Location of object.


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Old 10-20-2008, 08:57 PM   #14
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Pulling a third density consciousness out of the matrix when it is grown up is an extremely worthy, but tiresom task. good luck
Thanks for the books...

Mind if I host a copy on my site?
It would be under this section...
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/44cosmic_wisdom/index.html

I see your looking for a publisher... in the meantime have a look at this... it might be an option
http://blurb.com/



A long time ago a teacher in martial arts told me... "If I have but one student that truly understands, then my life is complete"

Your right though it is tiresome... and frustrating... because you keep repeating everything whenever a new thread begins

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Old 10-20-2008, 09:15 PM   #15
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easy jobs are rarely rewarding. sharing your knowledge is difficult, convincing others even harder, but any successes are so worth the effort!!! if you wake up just one person, that person can wake up another, etc.; that's how change starts. initial snowballs seem so insignificant, but the end result avalanche can drastically change a landscape. keep lobbin' those balls out there.
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Old 10-20-2008, 09:19 PM   #16
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[QUOTE zorgon Waking People Up...

True you cannot force someone... in fact that usually has the opposite effect.

The point is every person has a trigger which will wake them... in this case it was this single photo...


some of my TRIGGER PHOTOS

A trigger website:
http://jordanmaxwell.com/articles/questions/index.html
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Hi People,

Very 'nice' thread, IMO.
Thanks a lot to Metamike for his 3 (free) books. Sounds clear and clever (at the first glance).

For my part, thanks to the Internet, I had been (more fully) awoken a couple
of months after the 911. Yes, I had swallowed/bought the whole story for a (too long!) time...

Fortunately, I was not so absolutely sleeping as I was aware of "something
after death" (and even reincarnation!), UFOs, FreeNRG (= Over Unity =
Coeficient Of Performance (COP) greather than One) and all these kind of
obviously impossible things...

I gave up trying to "stir up" all the garden dwarfs I can meet or I could cope with (my ex fellow workers, for ex.).

This gives me more energy to focus my attention on the new 'same-page'
friends that I miraculously (of course not!) stumbled upon after this (very
small, I guess) waking up...


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What really encourages me these days is to see the increasing number of younger ones (I guess I mean 16 to 25 years old) who are searching along this path toward the light.
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A little (real) story:
A couple of weeks ago, I received my 15 Y. old nephew. I do like him.
I just beleive that he could be brainCleaned keeping on watching this silly
TV programs.

At the moment, he was not on TV but (again - I guess) watching MATRIX (N°1). For my part, I was -as usual- on the Internet facing another screen!!!
Bravo..

I went to him to ask if everythings were OK. Then I came across the scene
that (very very briefly) shows the Neos' ID card. A less than one second shot.

Thanks (again) to the Internet I knew that this ID card has september 11/2001 as an expiration date. So I told him and printed out the picture.

BTW: I put the picture is here:
http://freenrg.info/4Avalon/MATRIX_NEO_ID.jpg

After the film was over he told me a lot of thing about the way he understood 911. We were on the same page! Not so sure that my (55 old) brother (which, IMO, is not a garden dwarf) could be...
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Odd about waking people up, what if they woke up ages ago, but not talking about such things...

Like my father for instance, he knows about a lot of stuff like the NWO and yet he treats me like i am nuts, is he trying to protect me from getting hurt or what all..

He also knows about the stuff that Norval has said about the bible and yet he speaks to me encrypted like..

He also knows stuff about Atlantis and says that he and I and my mother where the same then as we are now, an immediate family, he my father and mom as my mom back then, as we are now. But does not want to speak of these things with me, but has no problem when another "A" comes along like one of my ex boyfriends... They spoke for the first time since those times like they had just finished of a conversation back then..

Both my Mother and Father knows stuff but refuse to speak on these things. I am still wondering if it is out of protection over me or what all..

Namaste-Matte

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Old 10-21-2008, 02:07 AM   #19
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Hey, great posts everyone!

I think if you primarily increase your own consciousness to these things, that has a huge effect on the planet.

Then, as you go on your journey, the right people tend to come along and enter your life, nothing is random and our reality is alot more ordered than we give it credit for. Alot of David Wilcocks information goes into this in great detail, worth checking out if you haven't done so.
This financial crisis will lead to people being forced to wake up, so its not all bad folks. Go with the flow and trust your intuition.

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Old 10-21-2008, 02:52 AM   #20
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i've tried to talk about a lot of things to quite a few people. more often than not they don't show too much interest. it's been said multiple times on this thread already that sometimes trying to force somebody to awaken will often do more damage than good. i've learned that what works best for me is to discuss something that person is actually interested in. the great thing about expanding your knowledge is the more you learn, the easier it is to find something that may spark somebodys interest. the secrecy covers so many things that there's usually something you can find that may interest a specific person, whethere it's physics, technology, ancient architecture, government cover-ups, etc. the key is to get their attention with something they can easily comprehend (as much of this knowledge is way over the head of the average person) and overlaps something they already have an initial interst in.

for me personally, i awoke on my own when i was surfing youtube and stumbled across some clips from the disclosure projects website. i'd come across similar information before but didn't think too much about it. this time, however, it was coming from hundreds of people who are the very definition of credibility. right away i knew i had a lot of learning to. unfortunately, most people seem to think the truth will eventually just fall into their lap
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Old 10-21-2008, 03:58 AM   #21
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getting people to wake up is the easy part IMHO

the hard part is to convince them that they are asleep

people usually dont like that

So I use the gentle approach for the most part

I just try to plant seeds and toss out some bait occasionally to see who bites, then we put our heads together and I stay really general giving them sources of info instead of trying to be their NWO guru

I stay away from controversial terms like Illuminati, Bohemian Grove, and even 911 depending on their views on it

I also stay away from time travel, baby eating lizards, black ceremonies, stargates, and the really faith stretching probabilities that this path can lead to

I let them find the hard to swallow stuff on their own

but if they come to me with questions, I let em have it

they have to walk the path of fire with their own will and perseverance to not get burned

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Old 10-21-2008, 12:11 PM   #22
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I remember when I first woke up some years ago. I always had a nagging sensation that something was fundamentally wrong with this world. It was a period when I did yoga/meditation 2-3 hours each morning and night for several weeks. I just wanted to empty myself completely.

Then one day I was sitting at the computer and I got an impulse to "check out 9/11". I searched around and found some truth sites. Hehe. It was like opening up the floodgates in a dam. From that point on information poured into my opened mind. I literally spent days and weeks just laying around and watching Alex Jones, and Icke and others. I was so starved for truth that I could not get enough. I still can't, but it is not such a wild ride anymore. The stream is more of a constant.

Most unconscious people are very wary when it comes to "sects/cults" and "brainwashing". They simply cannot get outside the box to realize that this whole world/society is one gigantic "cult/sect" that brainwashes and indoctrinates people literally from the day they are born.

I was put in an incubator for a week or so after I was born (to early they say). Even if that can be excused as "necessary" in some cases. Why are all newborns being placed isolated in a room together crying towards the ceiling artificial fluorescent tube ligthing? In Russia they used to wrap newborns in very tight linen clothing (don't know if they still do) as if to say: "No room for any goofing around here". This is how a highly sensetive, pure consciousness is welcomed into the world. The incubation period and feeling of isolation was actually something I had to consciously work through as it came up in my process of deprogramming myself. It was so important that I actually attracted a female partner at that time which soon after we had met I just exclaimed: "You are an incubator baby are you not?". Nice pick up line huh? But, indeed, she was...

Anyway, most people will defend their own enslavement rather then to face the unknown with an open mind. I guess this is why Socrates whole effort was to get the point across that being in a state of not-knowing (unless you DO know) is about as wise as you can be.

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But still, my mother is very aware, and warned me not to delve too far, but to do what we need to do now, she is not afraid. However, as they are older and resigned to the 'other side' (as she says), they seem to have no fear...
I'm impressed by your concern for your family, and you seem to be on the right track. Your mom sounds pretty wise. Her advice, "not to delve too far, but to do what we need to do now" is smack-on. And it is possible to reach a point where there is no real fear of death. Many of course, never reach that place, and it's a shame. Only the ego fears, and it does not conduce to advancement.
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[QUOTE=goody8504;57401]i've tried to talk about a lot of things to quite a few people. more often than not they don't show too much interest. it's been said multiple times on this thread already that sometimes trying to force somebody to awaken will often do more damage than good. i've learned that what works best for me is to discuss something that person is actually interested in. the great thing about expanding your knowledge is the more you learn, the easier it is to find something that may spark somebodys interest. the secrecy covers so many things that there's usually something you can find that may interest a specific person, whethere it's physics, technology, ancient architecture, government cover-ups, etc. the key is to get their attention with something they can easily comprehend (as much of this knowledge is way over the head of the average person) and overlaps something they already have an initial interst in.
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This is exactly what I do. Find a topic that they are interested in and go from there. I find some people are wide open and others are very limited to what they will accept. You can't push it too far or they shut you out.

My wife says all you can do is lay the seeds. In times to come things may happen that will make them remember something you said and maybe will be more open to more info.

I know some of my friends are asking more questions after they watched a TV program on CBC that looked into some of the conspiracy around 9-11.

I knew that the program was going to on so I phoned 10 friends and told them to watch it. Of the 10 people 2 couldn't be bothered to watch it.
4 were neutral in that they thought it possibly was what they were originally told. But the other 4 people feel it was an inside job.

Now that gives me 4 people to expand info on. Guess it was worth making those phone calls.
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Anyway, most people will defend their own enslavement rather then to face the unknown with an open mind. I guess this is why Socrates whole effort was to get the point across that being in a state of not-knowing (unless you DO know) is about as wise as you can be.
Bingo!
I can relate to that Sanat.
The comforting concept which has given my thinking some peace is Cognitive Dissonance.

Had a rather, shall we say, "Raw" interchange with one of my loved ones about, "proof."
As Zorgon once mentioned, "Trigger" photos seem to work best. I agree, that's why I have collected my own (link below.) I just send them the link now.

I enjoy your posts. Surely you are "older" than your previous picture.
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