If the internet goes.

10-23-2008, 09:07 AM

If the internet is closed would that be the time to go to the bush, woods wherever. I am not going anywhere myself per se as my husband and kids don't want to hear about anything and moreso if it is negative. Although if the ....hits the fan I am sure they will be awoken then.

But this is just a thought thrown out there, (I am not going to talk about harsh things like ....es because I will not allow them into my reality, but when do you think it would be time to disappear if most of you are.

Treckie · 10-23-2008, 09:46 AM

If you do go for cover, bring a radio with you just in case it is nothing.
Then again you could treat it as a little camping holiday.

Harper · 10-23-2008, 09:48 AM

Hey Tuza,

Hope you are well, I think if the internet goes down we will be in a situation where no one will be working, I can't think of any non-primary industry (everything except growing food etc...) that doesn't rely now completely on computers and access to the web, I mean the computers we are writing on right now are not even as effective as an old type writer without the net. I know very few people who have an old plug-into the grid telephone. Everything in my house is wireless and all of my phones are dependant on the modem. I know its crazy but if that happens we are really in a difficult situation to communicate with each other. I know that the phone company Verizon still kept up their transatlantic under the sea cables so some old fashioned communication system still exists but it would be tough. I guess the answer is to gather as much information as possible while we are still on-line.

Take it easy and glad to e-meet you!

g

Humble Janitor · 10-23-2008, 09:58 AM

As long as there are rogue computer users, there will always be access to the internet.

There are people who won't stand for blocked access and will do what they can to circumvent it.

Mark · 10-23-2008, 12:37 PM

Geeks will get crazy if the internet goes and they will come up with an alternative, I'm sure. There must be away to network us all together without an ISP...

Harper · 10-23-2008, 12:51 PM

That's the problem, how many people do you know that can do a "work-around" if the internet is turned off? Jees am .............maybe 1?

SpeedAdict · 10-23-2008, 01:32 PM

I strongly recommend to the people here, that buy a HF Tranceiver, (a radio transmitter that can communicate nearly around the world)

There is not need to be NEW one, because they are a bit expensive, but some stores (google that) sell used radios with antennas batteries and other equipmente ready to use in perfect condition with a 50-60% off the price of a new one..

That way is a reliable form of communication with the "ground crew" that already are around safe areas, and they have the equipment already SET...
If the SH... hits the fan and the NET goes down, this radios work fine with bateries from cars, adapters, solar panels,etc. And the communication is VERY VERY good.. Even short messages of data could be transmitted.

I'm have my licence for transmiting here in my country, BUT, in case of natural disaster, Flood, Fire, etc, etc is perfectly legal to use the radios. Anyway there will be NO people looking for your license anyway if the
SH... hits the fan.. Thats for shure..

PD: I am positive and very clear that the PTB will try to disconnect us all in ALL ways, but some radios use sattelite connection for free and they are VERY difficult to trace or block

Remember too get a **Faraday cage** to shield the electronics from the EMP (electromagnetic pulse either man made or collateral of a nuke) or they will be as good as SAND.. NO TICKET NO LOUNDRY ok...

Have a great week people!!

deb003 · 10-23-2008, 01:50 PM

Hi,
If it becomes too dangerous to live in the cities, does anyone have an idea of where one can go.
I live in Florida and I have a very good car.
I think if communications do go down, at least we will have an idea or a plan or somewhere to go?????

deb003 · 10-23-2008, 01:52 PM

Tuza, I also have a child and am single and I am open to suggestions of what to so, where to go. I have a solar powered radio and allot of supplies but I am not sure if the cities would be a good place to stay if things get rough.

sunnyrap · 10-23-2008, 01:59 PM

There is an alternative system that relies on radio waves, which all you need is the broadcasting & receiving equipment and antennas. Almost every town has a ham radio club and a gaggle of operators, too.

MAP · 10-23-2008, 03:14 PM

BUT if this went down...
http://www.rense.com/general80/pwrff.htm

Not even a single nuclear weapon launched - If US electrical grid gets shut down by EMP weaponry, within 30 days half of US population will begin to perish from starvation

The weapons of World War III
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=69079

whitecrow · 10-23-2008, 04:28 PM

I think it is not a question of "if" but "when." It doesn't have to be a conspiracy. A country with an aging, inefficient infrastructure, that has foolishly squandered its resources, will experience the power going out. But yes, I do believe they will bit-by-bit continue the process of disconnecting us.

When the power goes down for the final time, all digital information will be lost. Very little is kept on paper anymore. Bank records, insurance records, documents of all kinds, poetry, digital artworks, all will vanish. People of the future may think we were appallingly ignorant.

I know I will never forget the greatest gift of the Internet. For the first time in history, people from all over the world could communicate with each other in real time. The Internet provides a virtual set of communities where people talk, argue, inform, inspire, and even fall in love. We have seen first-hand the universality of human spirit. We know that we are all alike in so many more ways than we differ.

The Internet allows information to spread around the world in minutes instead of months. It is almost impossible to overstate the impact this has had. The "Truth Movement" would not exist without it. The current spiritual awakening which is the occasion of this forum's existence and that of countless websites and newsgroups, has been shaped by the Internet.

This is significant, for this movement is not unlike the "Great Awakening" of the 1830s and 1840s. At that time the movement was almost entirely religious. News spread slow, and in that case was spread mostly by itinerant preachers and evangelists. This is when tent revivals really became popular. Millions and millions of people daily expected the return of Jesus Christ. When it did not occur - that is, when nothing happened that anyone was able to perceive as the return of Jesus Christ - life slowly went back to normal, and a new cynicism entered the religious scene.

This movement of the 1840s gave rise to the various Adventist denominations, and also helped lead the way to the eclectic spirituality of the late 19th and early 20th centuries.

So we live in very significant times, and the Internet is one of the main things that makes these times so very vital and interesting. Mankind has NEVER possessed a tool like the Internet. I believe this is one of the reasons the Web is so cluttered up with foolishness - ridiculous opinions, pornography, all kinds of nonsense - the PTB must keep it well-seeded with distractions to keep us from using it to its full potential.

We won't have this tool forever. I do believe that some version of it will return. Or it may be that the power really will not go off completely and that we will continue to have intermittent access at least, for a very long time. I do believe that we'll see a major and permanent power-down, with everything that implies.

Balance. Gotta have it. We can't spend our lives at the computer anyway. Our butts only get wider and our bellies flabbier sitting here. Not to mention the carpal tunnel stuff going on (grapeseed extract!)...so as always I call for people to walk outside and apply what they've learned.

The Internet is historic. It will end one day. What matters is what we do with the gifts it gave us.

10-23-2008, 09:07 AM	#1
Tuza Guest Posts: n/a	If the internet goes. If the internet is closed would that be the time to go to the bush, woods wherever. I am not going anywhere myself per se as my husband and kids don't want to hear about anything and moreso if it is negative. Although if the ....hits the fan I am sure they will be awoken then. But this is just a thought thrown out there, (I am not going to talk about harsh things like ....es because I will not allow them into my reality, but when do you think it would be time to disappear if most of you are.

10-23-2008, 09:46 AM	#2
Treckie Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Cymru (Wales) Posts: 68	Re: If the internet goes. If you do go for cover, bring a radio with you just in case it is nothing. Then again you could treat it as a little camping holiday.

10-23-2008, 09:48 AM	#3
Harper Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Paris Posts: 467	Re: If the internet goes. Hey Tuza, Hope you are well, I think if the internet goes down we will be in a situation where no one will be working, I can't think of any non-primary industry (everything except growing food etc...) that doesn't rely now completely on computers and access to the web, I mean the computers we are writing on right now are not even as effective as an old type writer without the net. I know very few people who have an old plug-into the grid telephone. Everything in my house is wireless and all of my phones are dependant on the modem. I know its crazy but if that happens we are really in a difficult situation to communicate with each other. I know that the phone company Verizon still kept up their transatlantic under the sea cables so some old fashioned communication system still exists but it would be tough. I guess the answer is to gather as much information as possible while we are still on-line. Take it easy and glad to e-meet you! g

10-23-2008, 09:58 AM	#4
Humble Janitor Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 3,201	Re: If the internet goes. As long as there are rogue computer users, there will always be access to the internet. There are people who won't stand for blocked access and will do what they can to circumvent it.

10-23-2008, 12:37 PM	#5
Mark Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: U.K. Earth Posts: 248	Re: If the internet goes. Geeks will get crazy if the internet goes and they will come up with an alternative, I'm sure. There must be away to network us all together without an ISP...

10-23-2008, 12:51 PM	#6
Harper Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Paris Posts: 467	Re: If the internet goes. That's the problem, how many people do you know that can do a "work-around" if the internet is turned off? Jees am .............maybe 1?

10-23-2008, 01:32 PM	#7
SpeedAdict Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Venezuela Posts: 56	Re: If the internet goes. I strongly recommend to the people here, that buy a HF Tranceiver, (a radio transmitter that can communicate nearly around the world) There is not need to be NEW one, because they are a bit expensive, but some stores (google that) sell used radios with antennas batteries and other equipmente ready to use in perfect condition with a 50-60% off the price of a new one.. That way is a reliable form of communication with the "ground crew" that already are around safe areas, and they have the equipment already SET... If the SH... hits the fan and the NET goes down, this radios work fine with bateries from cars, adapters, solar panels,etc. And the communication is VERY VERY good.. Even short messages of data could be transmitted. I'm have my licence for transmiting here in my country, BUT, in case of natural disaster, Flood, Fire, etc, etc is perfectly legal to use the radios. Anyway there will be NO people looking for your license anyway if the SH... hits the fan.. Thats for shure.. PD: I am positive and very clear that the PTB will try to disconnect us all in ALL ways, but some radios use sattelite connection for free and they are VERY difficult to trace or block Remember too get a Faraday cage to shield the electronics from the EMP (electromagnetic pulse either man made or collateral of a nuke) or they will be as good as SAND.. NO TICKET NO LOUNDRY ok... Have a great week people!!

10-23-2008, 01:50 PM	#8
deb003 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 297	Re: If the internet goes. Hi, If it becomes too dangerous to live in the cities, does anyone have an idea of where one can go. I live in Florida and I have a very good car. I think if communications do go down, at least we will have an idea or a plan or somewhere to go?????

10-23-2008, 01:52 PM	#9
deb003 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 297	Re: If the internet goes. Tuza, I also have a child and am single and I am open to suggestions of what to so, where to go. I have a solar powered radio and allot of supplies but I am not sure if the cities would be a good place to stay if things get rough.

10-23-2008, 01:59 PM	#10
sunnyrap Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 147	Re: If the internet goes. There is an alternative system that relies on radio waves, which all you need is the broadcasting & receiving equipment and antennas. Almost every town has a ham radio club and a gaggle of operators, too.

10-23-2008, 03:14 PM	#11
MAP Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: click sing along with me =) ---> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn0bgdsCxXE Posts: 215	Re: If the internet goes. BUT if this went down... http://www.rense.com/general80/pwrff.htm Not even a single nuclear weapon launched - If US electrical grid gets shut down by EMP weaponry, within 30 days half of US population will begin to perish from starvation The weapons of World War III http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.p...w&pageId=69079

10-23-2008, 04:28 PM	#12
whitecrow Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: California Posts: 469	Re: If the internet goes. I think it is not a question of "if" but "when." It doesn't have to be a conspiracy. A country with an aging, inefficient infrastructure, that has foolishly squandered its resources, will experience the power going out. But yes, I do believe they will bit-by-bit continue the process of disconnecting us. When the power goes down for the final time, all digital information will be lost. Very little is kept on paper anymore. Bank records, insurance records, documents of all kinds, poetry, digital artworks, all will vanish. People of the future may think we were appallingly ignorant. I know I will never forget the greatest gift of the Internet. For the first time in history, people from all over the world could communicate with each other in real time. The Internet provides a virtual set of communities where people talk, argue, inform, inspire, and even fall in love. We have seen first-hand the universality of human spirit. We know that we are all alike in so many more ways than we differ. The Internet allows information to spread around the world in minutes instead of months. It is almost impossible to overstate the impact this has had. The "Truth Movement" would not exist without it. The current spiritual awakening which is the occasion of this forum's existence and that of countless websites and newsgroups, has been shaped by the Internet. This is significant, for this movement is not unlike the "Great Awakening" of the 1830s and 1840s. At that time the movement was almost entirely religious. News spread slow, and in that case was spread mostly by itinerant preachers and evangelists. This is when tent revivals really became popular. Millions and millions of people daily expected the return of Jesus Christ. When it did not occur - that is, when nothing happened that anyone was able to perceive as the return of Jesus Christ - life slowly went back to normal, and a new cynicism entered the religious scene. This movement of the 1840s gave rise to the various Adventist denominations, and also helped lead the way to the eclectic spirituality of the late 19th and early 20th centuries. So we live in very significant times, and the Internet is one of the main things that makes these times so very vital and interesting. Mankind has NEVER possessed a tool like the Internet. I believe this is one of the reasons the Web is so cluttered up with foolishness - ridiculous opinions, pornography, all kinds of nonsense - the PTB must keep it well-seeded with distractions to keep us from using it to its full potential. We won't have this tool forever. I do believe that some version of it will return. Or it may be that the power really will not go off completely and that we will continue to have intermittent access at least, for a very long time. I do believe that we'll see a major and permanent power-down, with everything that implies. Balance. Gotta have it. We can't spend our lives at the computer anyway. Our butts only get wider and our bellies flabbier sitting here. Not to mention the carpal tunnel stuff going on (grapeseed extract!)...so as always I call for people to walk outside and apply what they've learned. The Internet is historic. It will end one day. What matters is what we do with the gifts it gave us. Last edited by whitecrow; 10-23-2008 at 04:31 PM.