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Old 10-20-2008, 11:00 PM   #1
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I just finished reading Jim Marrs latest book "The Rise Of The Fourth Reich" and what an EYE OPENING experiance it was. Jim did his homework as he usually does. This book should be read by all !!! and as soon as possible !!!
One can see the road to NATIONAL SOCIALISM with the 700 billion dollar financial bailout just passed by congress. Most of us stood up and screamed NO, but did it do any good ?
And as pointed out in the book, the NAZIS survived the war - they just simply moved to America !! Now is what we need is a good plan to stop them.
Any suggestions ?
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Old 10-20-2008, 11:08 PM   #2
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Yes. Stop participating in this decrepid system. Stop paying taxes. Stop purchasing goods from corporate chains. Stop watching garbage television. In fact, throw your TV sets away. Create signs letting people know what they should be researching. Stop believing that the voting system will save us...indeed, it never has. Reach out to Indigenous people and learn from them. Stop shopping and buying as a lifestyle. Understand that the money system needs to be transcended (once it's been obliterated).
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Old 10-20-2008, 11:15 PM   #3
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I just finished reading Jim Marrs latest book "The Rise Of The Fourth Reich" and what an EYE OPENING experiance it was. Jim did his homework as he usually does. This book should be read by all !!! and as soon as possible !!!
One can see the road to NATIONAL SOCIALISM with the 700 billion dollar financial bailout just passed by congress. Most of us stood up and screamed NO, but did it do any good ?
And as pointed out in the book, the NAZIS survived the war - they just simply moved to America !! Now is what we need is a good plan to stop them.
Any suggestions ?
Hi Gbk99

Fantastic that you have started a thread on this very Topic!

I only got my copy of The Rise of the Fourth Reich the other week, and as you say, it is the type of book that is VERY HARD to put down!

I am finding though, I dont know if you did as well, that I will read a sentence or a paragraph and what Jim conveys in info terms, will make me stop, put the book down and either sit and think for ages, or get up and walk and think over what he's said for ages.

This book is TRULY THOUGHT PROVOKING!

I look forward in interest to see where this thread you have started will lead.
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Old 10-20-2008, 11:21 PM   #4
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Ignore them. Maybe the only way to stop them is to make them feel unwanted. Stop buying their products, stop going to their schools, their churches and their military. It seems to be too late in the game for that now from what I can see anyway. The few million of us that are "in the know" in some way just have to group together if possible and sit out the storm.
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Old 10-22-2008, 11:44 PM   #5
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Is a great book. Jim has done his homework.

It is nice to have this book for back-up when I am talking to friends about some of things going on. It pulls a lot of the pieces together.

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Old 10-27-2008, 03:15 PM   #6
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Yes. Stop participating in this decrepid system. Stop paying taxes. Stop purchasing goods from corporate chains. Stop watching garbage television. In fact, throw your TV sets away. Create signs letting people know what they should be researching. Stop believing that the voting system will save us...indeed, it never has. Reach out to Indigenous people and learn from them. Stop shopping and buying as a lifestyle. Understand that the money system needs to be transcended (once it's been obliterated).
The money system is dying - you only need to let it die and replace it with something better: It doesn't need to be obliterated, just allowed to be exposed for what it is and death does this. The only reason it has survived this far is that addiction works on fear - keep somebody running and they will never see nor hear the truth as it will pass them (or better still, they will pass it) as a blur, an indecipherable noise. All of this is an avoidance of response-ability: Keep moving and blind yourself to the truth, rather than stop and see how you are killing yourself. Anybody who runs will do so because movement is exciting and stopping is enlightening (growing up to reality/ real-eyes-sing the truth). Nobody can run forever because even a car needs to refuel sometime.
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Old 05-29-2009, 07:08 PM   #7
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Thank you for starting this thread!

I've read the book also. I have utmost respect for his work. He is very thorough.



From Amazon.com:

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Throw out everything you think you know about history. Close the approved textbooks, turn off the corporate mass media, and whatever you do, don't believe anything you hear from the government—The Rise of the Fourth Reich reveals the truth about American power. In this explosive new book, the legendary Jim Marrs, author of the underground bestseller Rule by Secrecy, reveals the frighteningly real possibility that today the United States is becoming the Fourth Reich, the continuation of an ideology thought to have been vanquished more than a half century ago.

This concept may seem absurd to those who cannot see past the rose-colored spin, hype, and disinformation poured out daily by the media conglomerates—most of which are owned by the very same families and corporations who supported the Nazis before World War II. But as Marrs precisely explains, National Socialism never died, but rather its hideous philosophy is alive and active in modern America. Unfortunately, most people cannot understand the shadowy links between fascism and corporate power, the military, and our elected leaders.

While the United States helped defeat the Germans in World War II, we failed to defeat the Nazis. At the end of the war, ranking Nazis, along with their young and fanatical protégés, used the loot of Europe to create corporate front companies in many countries, including the United States of America. Utilizing their stolen wealth, men with Nazi backgrounds and mentalities wormed their way into corporate America, slowly buying up and consolidating companies into giant multinational conglomerates. Many thousands of other Nazis came to the United States under classified programs such as Project Paperclip. They brought with them miraculous weapon technology that helped win the space race but they also brought their insidious Nazi philosophy within our borders. This ideology based on the authoritarian premise that the end justifies the means—including unprovoked wars of aggression and curtailment of individual liberties—has gained an iron hold in the "land of the free and the home of the brave."

For the first time Jim Marrs has gathered compelling evidence that an effort has been underway for the past sixty years to bring a form of National Socialism to modern America, creating in essence a modern empire—or "Fourth Reich"!

About the Author

Award-winning journalist Jim Marrs is the New York Times bestselling author of Rule by Secrecy, Alien Agenda, and Crossfire—which served as a basis for the Oliver Stone film JFK. He lives in Texas.

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Old 05-29-2009, 08:47 PM   #8
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Yes. Stop participating in this decrepid system. Stop paying taxes. Stop purchasing goods from corporate chains. Stop watching garbage television. In fact, throw your TV sets away. Create signs letting people know what they should be researching. Stop believing that the voting system will save us...indeed, it never has. Reach out to Indigenous people and learn from them. Stop shopping and buying as a lifestyle. Understand that the money system needs to be transcended (once it's been obliterated).
This person is spot on
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Old 05-29-2009, 10:22 PM   #9
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I've read 'Rule by Secrecy' by Jim Marrs...and I've started reading 'Rise of the Fourth Reich'...but I'm trying to read 'SS Brotherhood of the Bell', 'Dark Mission', and 'Behold a Pale Horse' at the same time! Combining all of that with listening to Alex Jones...is driving me nucking futs!

Seriously...all of this is not making me angry. It's making me realize that We the People of Earth need to be well informed...and not just trust the leaders to do the right thing. We need to look over their shoulders continually...whether they like it or not.

I really like Jim Marrs. He should be listened to very closely. Now I'm going to get off the internet...and finish those books!

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Old 05-30-2009, 12:25 AM   #10
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I've read 'Rule by Secrecy' by Jim Marrs...and I've started reading 'Rise of the Fourth Reich'...but I'm trying to read 'SS Brotherhood of the Bell', 'Dark Mission', and 'Behold a Pale Horse' at the same time! Combining all of that with listening to Alex Jones...is driving me nucking futs!

Seriously...all of this is not making me angry. It's making me realize that We the People of Earth need to be well informed...and not just trust the leaders to do the right thing. We need to look over their shoulders continually...whether they like it or not.

I really like Jim Marrs. He should be listened to very closely. Now I'm going to get off the internet...and finish those books!
And, do background checks on your leaders... Parents, grandparents, great-
grandparents... Locations in America... employment Corporations. Bankers
families... Shipping Manifests... Martin Aviation [at that Ti=Me]... Start by reading Death Bed Confessions; this Site... " They Killed Tesla " They ARE
in AIG...

Paperclip; brought them in by the " Boatload " Passports changed...
Britsh agts could be C N' C in office now...

AAAAAAAA, Due a search of passports of other names of leaders [hint][wink].


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Old 05-31-2009, 03:21 PM   #11
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The Coming Persecution of Christians in the Coming One World Government

In the United States, The Department of Homeland Security issued its “Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment” Report. In addition, in many States, like Missouri, “Fusion Centers” have been set up based on the MIAC Strategic Report – The Modern Militia Movement. This Government Report alleges that a violent “rightwing extremist” movement is trying to take over the nation. According to the definitions in these reports, Bible believing Christians are labeled as “rightwing extremists.” The two reports appear to be anti-Christian propaganda created by left-wing and militant humanist “think tanks.” Their strategies are reminiscent of Adolph Hitler’s “Enabling Powers” laws which the occult Third Reich used after the “Reichstag (Parliament building) was burned down by “terrorists. These “Enabling Powers” gave Hitler the legal power to profile and arrest anyone who was even suspected of being critical of the Nazi Party. Through using the “Enabling Powers” laws to profile anyone as a potential terrorist, Hitler was able to grab dictatorial control of Germany in a matter months and killing 6-10 million Jews and Christians.

Many civil liberties groups such as the ACLU and the Rutherford Institute headed, by the Attorney John Whitehead have of expressed grave concerns about the increasing “Police State” powers that began with the Bush Administration under the guise of anti-terrorist legislation. Today a vast array of government agencies are using a wide range of anti-terrorist legalization to profile and track law abiding citizen’s in something out of George Orwell’s novel “1984” which warned of the danger of totalitarianism built on the fear of terrorism. Orwell who was connected with the British Intelligence Agency MI5 saw the dangers of a global intelligence apparatus and attempted to warn the world about it before it was too late.

http://moriel.org/MorielArchive/inde...rld-government




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0Nxg...layer_embedded

Check out the hand signs (behind their backs) at about the 1:04 mark. It is the pyramid with the all encompassing eye at the top.....


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Old 05-31-2009, 04:01 PM   #12
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...creating in essence a modern empire—or "Fourth Reich"!...
Also known as the "New World Order"...

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Old 05-31-2009, 06:04 PM   #13
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Another must read I think! I've been waiting for my copy of S.S. Brotherhood of the Bell by Joseph Farrell after listening to a Coast to Coast interview.
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Old 05-31-2009, 06:10 PM   #14
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I'm just laughing at some of the attitudes in here.

Sorry guys, I can't help it.
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Old 05-31-2009, 06:25 PM   #15
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Another must read I think! I've been waiting for my copy of S.S. Brotherhood of the Bell by Joseph Farrell after listening to a Coast to Coast interview.




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In 1945, a mysterious Nazi secret weapons project code-named The Bell left its underground bunker in lower Silesia, with its project documentation, and the 4-star SS general Hans Kammler. Taken aboard a massive six engine Junkers 390 ultra-long range aircraft, The Bell, Kammler, and all project records disappeared completely, along with the gigantic Junkers 390 carrying them. It has been speculated that it flew to Argentina. As a prelude to this disappearing act, the SS murdered most of the scientists and technicians involved with the project, a secret weapon that, according to one German Nobel prize-winning physicist, was given a classification of decisive for the war -- the highest security classification. Offered here is a range of exotic technologies the Nazis researched, and challenges to the conventional views of the end of World War Two, the Roswell incident, and the beginning of MAJIC-12, the government’s alleged secret team of UFO investigators.

About the Author

Joseph P. Farrell was born in Sioux Falls, SD, and received his PhD in Patristics 1987 from Oxford. After teaching college for 17 years, he retired to pursue his interest in alternative science and history research.
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Old 01-14-2010, 04:01 AM   #16
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rec'd this from family members,
we would NEVER have expected to send this out

German View of Islam



Very good points, cuts thru the ******** you read



German View of Islam


This is by far the best explanation of the Muslim
terrorist situation I have ever read.

His references to past
history are accurate and clear.

Not long, easy to understand, and
well worth the read.

The author of this email is said to be Dr.
Emanuel Tanay, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist.

A German's View on Islam

A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to
World War II, owned a number of large industries and estates. When
asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave
can guide our attitude toward fanaticism. 'Very few people were
true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride,
and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just
thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat
back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us,
and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come. My
family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the
Allies destroyed my factories.'

We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking
heads' that Islam is the religion of peace and that the vast
majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this
unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is
meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to
somehow diminish the spectre of fanatics rampaging across the globe
in the name of Islam.

The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this
moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics
who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics
who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout
Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an
Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or
honor-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque.
It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of
rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their
young to kill and to become suicide bombers.

The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful
majority, the 'silent majority,' is cowed and extraneous.

Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just
wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were
responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful
majority were irrelevant. Chinas huge population was peaceful as
well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70
million people.

The average Japanese individual prior to World War II
was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered
its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included
the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed
by sword, shovel, and bayonet.

And who can forget Rwanda , which collapsed into
butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were
'peace loving'?

History lessons are often incredibly simple and
blunt, yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most
basic and uncomplicated of points:

Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by
their silence.

Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they
don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany , they will
awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of
their world will have begun.

Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians,
Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians,
Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority
did not speak up until it was too late. As for us who watch it all
unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts--the
fanatics who threaten our way of life.

Lastly, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious
and just deletes this email without sending it on, is contributing
to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand. So, extend
yourself a bit and send this on and on and on! Let us hope that
thousands, world-wide, read this and think about it, and send it on
- before it's too late.

Emanuel Tanay, M.D.
2980 Provincial St. Ann Arbor ,
MI 48104
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Old 01-14-2010, 05:03 AM   #17
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I just finished reading Jim Marrs latest book "The Rise Of The Fourth Reich" and what an EYE OPENING experiance it was. Jim did his homework as he usually does. This book should be read by all !!! and as soon as possible !!!
One can see the road to NATIONAL SOCIALISM with the 700 billion dollar financial bailout just passed by congress. Most of us stood up and screamed NO, but did it do any good ?
And as pointed out in the book, the NAZIS survived the war - they just simply moved to America !! Now is what we need is a good plan to stop them.
Any suggestions ?
When you're into this stuff I can HIGHLY recommend 'The Nazi International' by Joseph Farrell.
Goes even more indepth than Jim Marrs.
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