Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale

[pilot]

Originally Posted by kayak

Re: Carol

"It is unwise to cast dispersion where there is no evidence other then a vivid imagination to support your statement and I would hope a sense of appreciation replaces your original dissapointment."

Wouldn't that be "cast aspersion?" Are you familiar with the Roman Catholic ritual where the priest "sprinkles" the congregation with holy water, while invocating the Latin phrase, "Asperges me [literally, sprinkle me]?"

I am Kayak.

Are you an English teacher?

[Norval]

Hi Tuza,

Read this to get that information, Thanks

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=3194


This is Phobos, a "moon" of Mars. Very little gravity as it is only about 20 miles big. Many scientists question it's origin,

[Shadowstalker]

Originally Posted by Norval

Hi Tuza,

Read this to get that information, Thanks

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=3194


This is Phobos, a "moon" of Mars. Very little gravity as it is only about 20 miles big. Many scientists question it's origin,

It looks like it was used for target practice

Namaste-Matte

[Shechaiyah]

Wow. I wasn't aware that people know about this.

I've been re-processessing NASA ( http://areo.info/mer/ ) photos

for the past six months. I have two that show an attack on Mars 11/11/07 and two that show a military base at Victoria Crater.

I wasn't aware that any of this was ever even possible. Anybody know anything about a Baghdad, Iraq, STARGATE? Is that how they do it?


Shech--

Originally Posted by Shechaiyah

I wasn't aware that any of this was ever even possible. Anybody know anything about a Baghdad, Iraq, STARGATE? Is that how they do it?

Someone mention Stargates?

Not in this thread... but go here and you will find answers
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/42stargate/index.html

[hobbit]

Norval,
Is this ON topic?
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/f...pic.php?t=3112
hobbit
What if space and it's creative methods are different to how you percieve them?
What if there are detectable straight line reasons for electrical occurances to occur on the surface of created spheres?
Would that be ON topic, or only what you consider responsible for the craters?
hobbit

[Gale]

Hobbit, crop circles are another piece of the bigger puzzle, they can only be seen properly from above, could be the losers trying to communicate with those out there, but off topic.

Zorgon, yes more evidence but newer techniques leave a radioactive signature for a far shorter period of time.

[Gale]

Hi Zorgon
Most also know, Eugene Shoemaker was killed in a head on collision in the outback of Australia when coming back from researching a crater. He was about to release information about the geology and glass in Wolfe Creek crater, Barringer crater and the Nevada test craters which would have brought the origin of all craters in our solar system into question.

Thanks Zorgon, excellent, we know you have a lot of information; thanks for helping us present the information about the war and wars in our solar system.

Gazbom, thanks for helping collate the big picture.

Yes Shechaiyah, people do know about war and wars in our solar system and are awaking to this knowledge.
We are amazed we are being allowed to openly discuss it.

[hyatt]

hey shech

which pics are you refering to? there are to many to go through right now but im very interested.
thanks
hyatt

[Shechaiyah]

Some years ago, there was a page by a young kid, "Fallen," and I saved it.

He disappeared. But his scholarship in this regard, is amazing.

http://www.abidemiracles.com/fallen.htm

Printing it out, it goes to 95 color pages. Costs an arm and a leg to print.

Enjoy!


Shech--

PS Edit to Add. Norval, I have a color study of Phobos that indicates there is life on that too.

Life is everywhere.

[Norval]

When the war in the heavens reached Mars with it's "canal like" features and the bombs
started falling it appears to have almost cracked Mars open. From old astronomers
drawings and photos to what it looks like today is a remarkable change. Reports in
astronomers diary's and observation notes speak of huge billowing clouds coming up off
the surface of Mars hundreds of miles into the air.



http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ima...ubble_ruen.jpg
For a bigger picture >
http://antwrp.gsfc.nasa.gov/apod/ima...e_ruen_big.jpg

Those observations were done by astronomers before anyone had seen the clouds
produced by an atomic bomb. Huge dust storms were reported on Mars for the next few
decades. All this time earth was getting crash landing UFO's, mostly small craft. These
beings from the clouds and sky's, from ancient legends, are now what we know of as
ET's, and more importantly in light of what the bible says, very bad ET's.

Mars is now a destroyed world that had bodies of water, much now blown into space
with the rest buried frozen beneath meters of debris. Something caused the waters of
Mars to flood across it's surface more than once. These are all admitted facts of many
scientists now.

With that part of the war over earth now faces the victors of that war in the heavens.
While at the same time the powers that be are coming to terms with the fact that they
have allied themselves with these cast down deceptive ET's. Many insiders have spoken
of the treachery and deceptions of these ET's down here on earth. Their attitudes of
superiority, maybe technologically, but not the good ET phone home type either. These
are the ET's that have infiltrated our world in many places and positions. Yes, some of the
whistle blower testimony is very real, but I would see how it stacks up against what the
bible has to say.

'"bad ET and IAC agent posters."
Are they here Norval?

Yes, they are here.

[Shechaiyah]

These photos were all taken in the past twelve months, by the Rover along the spillway of Victoria Crater.
[These are the original NASA file names, and these photos are found at http://areo.info/mer/
Photo details were hidden under false color and extreme contrast settings.



http://www.abidemiracles.com/images/...L2L5L5L7L7.jpg

This next photo is dated 11/11/07 :: note the soldier in the foreground is wearing khaki camo fatigues.



and the next photo in the series -- the outcome: THE SOLDIER GETS HIS HEAD BLOWN OFF.

http://www.abidemiracles.com/images/...COLCARNAGE.jpg

Apparently, according to Rover photos, not only is there LIFE on Mars, there is also a war going on
between humans and Reptoids who control that planet. I have photos of military bases, encampments,
exercises, political executions and torture.

But NASA says there's no life on Mars.

Does not compute.

Shech--

[gazbom]

Originally Posted by Shechaiyah

Some years ago, there was a page by a young kid, "Fallen," and I saved it.

He disappeared. But his scholarship in this regard, is amazing.

http://www.abidemiracles.com/fallen.htm

Printing it out, it goes to 95 color pages. Costs an arm and a leg to print.

Enjoy!


Shech--

PS Edit to Add. Norval, I have a color study of Phobos that indicates there is life on that too.

Life is everywhere.

Wow! good stuff.

[Brinty]

Originally Posted by Shechaiyah

Some years ago, there was a page by a young kid, "Fallen," and I saved it.

He disappeared. But his scholarship in this regard, is amazing.

http://www.abidemiracles.com/fallen.htm

Printing it out, it goes to 95 color pages. Costs an arm and a leg to print.

If it's of any interest to those wanting to print this document but feel it is too costly, you can do what I did to reduce the cost.

1. Select the entire document then copy and paste into a word processor.
2. In the word processing program, select the entire document again and reduce font size to 10.
3. With the entire document still selected, change font colour to black.
4. Delete all pictures and diagrams.

By doing all the above, I was able to reduce the number of pages to 42 and there was no costly colour used.

[ralok_j]

So, these advanced ET's didn't have some form of guidance system for their weapons? Did they just let the projectiles fly and hope they would strike the intended target? Are you suggesting these "crator chains" are the result of target practice or projectiles that missed their mark?

[Shadowstalker]

Originally Posted by ralok_j

So, these advanced ET's didn't have some form of guidance system for their weapons? Did they just let the projectiles fly and hope they would strike the intended target? Are you suggesting these "crator chains" are the result of target practice or projectiles that missed their mark?

On the contrary I think they hit there target the way they where meant to.
And who said anything about missing a target... Not me..

And I said they look like target practice yes...

But in any sense one would still need to calibrate there targeting systems would they not, I mean consider the size of the object.

And if you consider they maybe using a type of pulse laser (tho' I may have that phrased wrong) then that would make sense, Or a type of Photon type weapon like in ST:NG, then yes, that would make sense.

Imagine calibrating your systems to target a small chain of Islands or to destroy ley lines on any given planet.

And this moon is where, near Mars? And only 20 mile wide? hmmm that would make sense considering that no one lives there anymore... Or at least folk claim nothing is living there any longer..

But that was fun to ponder on I must say..
Namaste-Matte
.

[wwolf67]

I started this during the evacuations;
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...sage198106/pg1
there's no sun spots because forces en route too and fro are no more; just waiting for the show and collection when its time. Care to explain why Sumerian cylinders are the origin of all religious texts we have today; and why do you consider this whistle blower stuff, its pretty evident false gods from Orion and drac have been warring since the start of this cycle when the reps came from an unknown Galaxy and started the war in Lyra. No I haven t read this thread cant get by the constant referral to false documents you make every post. See VA 243 depicts a false god dictating what we know as the bible. How do you expect to find the answers with half the info. I read when I feel something
Take Care
Balance to ALL

[Norval]

And the war continues, , , , now as an information war, against the disinformation and misdirection and misinformation, , hehe heh heh

[wwolf67]

Pot calling the kettle black brother
Ever heard the saying “you reap what you sow”
Instead of stringing everyone along why don’t you just get to the punch line and tell us when to expect Earth’s invasion
Reality is the invasion happened 450,000 years ago and as always when light enters a dark place the dark flees that’s why I pointed out the evacuation “ufo war over popo” at glp
This thread is nothing more than a false ET invasion Promo
A Picture is worth a thousand words
see link
http://www.bible-history.com/links.p...Art+%26+Images
Mystery of Sumerian civilization
http://knol.google.com/k/alexey-tsei.../11?locale=en#
Earth's Ancient History
http://www.earth-history.com/Babylon...ereshkigal.htm
Ancient Sumeria
Primary Author: Robert A. Guisepi
http://history-world.org/sumeria.htm
The Sumerian King List records all the rulers of Earth back over 400,000 years
http://www.crystalinks.com/sumerhistory.html
http://www.crystalinks.com/sumergods.html
E.Vegh
http://www.thelivingmoon.com/45starg...dex.html#books

http://www.sacred-texts.com/index.htm
Question When you started this thread and in the first few entries state your not religious and then you state on the following Saturday that you won’t post because it’s the Sabbath?
Balance to ALL

[wwolf67]

Another Warning

Avebury Down, nr Avebury, Wiltshire. Reported 28th September.



http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2...ydown2008.html

Australian Scientist Comments On “Digital Barcode”

September 28, 2008 email to Earthfiles: “The new cross in maize on September 28, 2008, appears at first glance to be authentic, and shows a ‘barcode signature’ off to one side. It might be ASCII, since its first few digits (reading left to right, standing near the cross) look like 00100000, which was a ‘word spacer’ in the Crabwood message: [ See 081902 Earthfiles about alien face in Winchester wheat and 081902EarthfilesUpdate about code analysis.]

01 (start)
01000010S (B)
01100101S (e)
01110111S (w)
01100001S (a)
01110010S (r)
01100101S (e)
00100000S (space) ”

FOR MORE INFO SEE EARTHFILES http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?I...ry=Environment

Balance to ALL

[beauwalton@rocketmail.com]

Originally Posted by wwolf67

Another Warning

Avebury Down, nr Avebury, Wiltshire. Reported 28th September.



http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2...ydown2008.html

Australian Scientist Comments On “Digital Barcode”

September 28, 2008 email to Earthfiles: “The new cross in maize on September 28, 2008, appears at first glance to be authentic, and shows a ‘barcode signature’ off to one side. It might be ASCII, since its first few digits (reading left to right, standing near the cross) look like 00100000, which was a ‘word spacer’ in the Crabwood message: [ See 081902 Earthfiles about alien face in Winchester wheat and 081902EarthfilesUpdate about code analysis.]

01 (start)
01000010S (B)
01100101S (e)
01110111S (w)
01100001S (a)
01110010S (r)
01100101S (e)
00100000S (space) ”

FOR MORE INFO SEE EARTHFILES http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?I...ry=Environment

Balance to ALL

Hi Wolf, what are you trying to say? Beware space? We know that from the crop circles, what do you mean?

[wwolf67]

Originally Posted by beauwalton@rocketmail.com

Hi Wolf, what are you trying to say? Beware space? We know that from the crop circles, what do you mean?

Honestly
I feel like its another bogus warning of an ET invasion

[BeaTnik-BandiT]

Hi Norval and Gale,
Ok....I am no expert in Bible decoding, but i have spend much time in reading accounts from alternative/conspiracy researchers, regarding our 'manipulated' human history.

My goal here is of course is to find the CAUSE/ACTORS and the TIME FRAME of this 'recent War' in the solar system.
So i would like to know YOUR take on these different accounts which have several details in common:

1- There is Immanuel Velikovsky (Worlds in Collision) who said that Venus could have been the planetoid that created havoc and destruction in the solar system 'recently' in terms of geological time.
The PTBs were discrediting and chasing him to make sure his life was miserable. No wonder that Velikovsky put his finger onto something.

2-David Icke (The Biggest Secret) says quite the same thing about Venus.
It was seen as a comet, or kind a big fireball with long 'hairs' in the sky, with kind of the same results of awe and destruction.

3- Stewart Swerdlow (Blue Blood True Blood) says that before the Earth was colonised:
Reptilians (Alpha Draconis) seeking conquest hurled a planetoid (maybe comet ?) weapon aimed at Mars and Maldek. Theses were supposedly colonised by renegade humanoid factions of the Lyrae constellation. Before the clash, Maldekians took refuge on Mars. As a result, Maldek exploded (asteroid belt?) and Mars lost most of it's atmosphere. And then, this 'weapon planetoid' stopped it's course where it's located today, known as planet Venus.

Unfortunately, Swerdlow doesn't gives a time range.

4- Michael Tsarion (Atlantis, Alien visitation + genetic manipulation) says
that approximately 50,000 years ago, a planetary body named 'Tiamat' (My note:could be 'Maldek' ?) has been mysteriously destroyed.
It was believed to have existed between Mars and Jupiter. He talks about this event to be Earth's first Deluge.

Here an excerpt from page 5 and 6 :

'' Around the time of this event, the solar system, and later the Earth, was colonised by extra-terrestrial beings who were either attracted to this solar system by that conflagration, or upon coming here caused the calamity themselves. Whether the disaster was natural or not, the result was that mankind on Earth experienced total and long lasting chaos and confusion.
.....It is thought that the alien invaders took full advantage of this predicament and moved in to bring about colonization.
.....some theorists, like the energetic Erik Von Dakinen have also determined that there was a great intergalactic war in the neighboring galaxy or solar system. The result of this titanic war had enormeous consequences for the Earth because, it is postulated, the losers (My note: the Atlans or Atlanteans) on being pursued pretended to take refuge on Tiamat. They even erected a makeshift radar-type station there to decoy their pursuers. However, the defeated ones had already taken refuge on Earth, not on Tiamat. Upon their arrival, they almost immediately went underground into existing caverns that through scans of the planet they knew existed.''

Wonderful isn't it ? (sounds like pure fiction at first sight, hehe)

Michael Tsarion says that the Nephilim/Atlanteans established their headquarters, Atlantis, on the continent of Appalachia.To make a storyshort, they made many genetic experimentations. They created a first slave race with the indigenous Earth inhabitants (with the same intellectual capacities as their creators) that eventually came into rebellion and left for Lemuria, were they became technologically advanced.

Then the Nephilim/Atlanteans created a second slave race that came to leave as well for Lemuria to join their 'Earthly' cousins.

excerpt from page 35:

'' The ire of the Atlanteans at this snubbing was so intense that they unleashed an atomic war on the ''sons of the Serpent'' and their Adamic wards, now resident on Lemuria (Oceania)....''

According to Tsarion, this war could be well have occured in very recent times, around the end of Pleistocene, roughly 11,500 years ago.
Recent discoveries are bringing the hypothesis that a 'comet' or whatever thing from outer space exploded over the Earth.

5- D.S Allan and J.B. Delair (Cataclysm) as genuine and well-intentioned scientists, concluded that a (or many) big object (Phaeton) brought destruction in our solar system as a result of the explosion of a supernova.- The Vela supernova- an exploded star, was unusually close, (45 light years) from our solar system. Calculations suggest that it erupted some 14,300 years ago.

Excerpt from page 210:

'' The above-cited detail that the astronomically close Vela supernova exploded sometine between 14,300 and 11,000 years ago indicates that, allowing for the time taken by Phaeton to traverse interstellar space between the pint of its original disruption - 45 light years distant - and the outer confines of the solar system, the planetary derangements under discussion took place approximately 11,500 years ago !

Assuming for the moement that Phaeton, after initially disrupting, subsequently traversed at high velocity on a course destined to bisect the solar system, it need not have actually moved at more than one fiftieth (1/50) of the speed of light to have covered the distance represented by 45 light years in just a few hundred years. ''

To finish, they concluded that this celestial body traversed the solar system, created havoc on Earth (possible pole shift, tidal waves, extinction of many animals, plants, shifts of Earth crust, etc). It caused the explosion of Tiamat (Maldek?) to finally disappear while heading toward the sun.(evidence missing)

- What comes to mind is that destructive events occured between 50,000 and 11,500 years ago.

- The 3 first accounts are concluding that Venus played the center part of a 'Natural' or a 'War' event in the solar system's recent history.

- The 2 last accounts are concluding with scientific proofs for a global scale event around 11,500 years ago.




salute.

[Norval]

Shadow,
Yes it does look like target practice don't it.

Thank you Brinty,
I found that information worth saving also.

Hey yah Beau,
Relax, unless your heart is condemning yah, then don't do it. Our Father has worked on His day
off, and so did Jesus, so relax. Do what yah gots to do.

Beatnik,
Thank you, but we sold the T-shirts, we promote using the bible as the book to compare all other
information against.

Now if yah all don't mind, I am taking a break for a bit.
Make sure of all things.
Keep looking up.

[Bobbi]

ralok j:

To quote my husband, who is a war veteran:

"If all bullets had found their mark, wars would last days, not years."