Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale

I have read that some people want Norval to simply point to something/anything in the bible to 'show them' what he is talking about.

Let me take a shot at this....

This what I 'think' as to why Norval does not necessarily do this.

He wants you to 'see' for yourselves. To have your own epiphany about this subject.
By reading the bible and allowing people to become 'aware' on their own.
Lets call it a 'Wow Factor'.

I had that when I first (or better said recently) have had OBEs/Astral Projections/Whatever term you want to name it.

It was not until I saw and felt for myself that The Scales Fell From My Eyes so to speak in relation to my OBEs.

Far be it for me to 'speak' for Norval nor am I 'Defending' him which is not what I am attempting.
Norval can speak and defend for himself.

I am just trying to clarify as *I* see what it is that Norval (and Gale) are doing.

That goes without saying that Norval and I do not agree on everything however, we respect each others point of view.

[Norval]

While there are many that post about varied time lines, levels of realities, dimensions, alternate
universes, and so on, and so on, and so on, pretty much everything one could imagine with their
imagination, I can only tell you of what we have learned about this physical universe we are in.
Even if it were a possibility of all these other realities, do we really need any of it to explain the
reality of today? While some of it may explain away various aspects of what we know to be
accepted facts about the ET / UFO information do we need anything more than just our own
known physical universe? Advanced technologies are fully capable, with some applied deception,
misdirection and subterfuge, to cause one to believe that they may have time traveled, or visited
other dimensions, universes and planets. There fore we will only discuss this one line of time, as
after all time is only a mutually agreed upon method of measurement to determine when an event
occurred, not another dementia. This has side tracked many.

When just contemplating this known physical universe our technological advancement allows us to
be able to now accept what we have seen demonstrated by these ET / UFOs as just that.
Applied technologies that we used to think of as ghosts, demons, angels, and all other distracting,
deceptive, and bogus crapola pulled on mankind over the past few thousand years can now be
understood and accepted. And, it was all, just a test.

This is the end of thousands of years where all who have lived and died of mankind have been
tested as to their integrity, goodness of heart, honor, all that makes you, YOU. Your collective
experiences tested you, and your responses noted, all of your life. The judgment is not from with
out, but from with in, our own hearts are our judges. Disclosure about the ET / bible connection,
based on what has happened over the centuries and today's modern technological
comprehension, now tells us that the rest of the story will be as true as what it told would happen,
and has.

There is a probability that there will be a so called "Staged Second Coming", ET disclosure event,
that would act as another deceiving misdirection. Don't fall for it. With the destruction in our solar
system that we have seen and past astronomers having witnessed we doubt that they can display
the kind of ships that the bible says are coming to earth. The Heavenly New Jerusalem is 1,500
miles big. Do you really think it will be coming alone? Now remember that it says, now King,
Jesus is returning with a vengeance. There is this attitude that one has when dealing with ones
enemies that didn't want him to become King. Not counting that it is said that the thoughts and
heart of Jesus is with mankind, and the bad ET's have gone way beyond their allowed testing of
mankind. Bluntly, the dude is returning, very ******.

The good side is all of the lies, deceptions, slander, bad mean types will be gone. Long live the
King; would be a good saying to learn I think, but that's just a suggestion. Imagine for a moment,
the exopolitical implications that the bible is true, the sociological implications would be staggering
as I can attest to, as the presidential advisor that visited with me on this very boat, twice, was a
sociologist. That was shortly after the think tank incident.

Norval L. Cunningham
Gale smart

[Orion11]

great thread!! just finished it, cant wait for more!

thanks so much.

and fwiw.... i dont see anything that Shechaiyah is talking about.

human figures? seriously?

that stuff takes away from the goodness of this thread. lol

thanks again
Blessings

That's the meat folks... your heart is your judge, within you, you know why? Because "you" don't really even exist (don't take that and run too far w/it). The Truth within knows all about "you",.... the erroneous, ignorant "you", that which is deceived, thinks it IS somebody! It's a matter of waking up to the reality of who you really are! Let them that have eyes, see.

"You" must "die" in order to know the truth that IS, knowledge of the only true One IS the definition of Eternal LIFE. That which was cast out of heaven is NEVER to return... the physical world is an outpicturing of the interior one.

Yes there is a good probability of a Staged (that word is more accurate than "fake") Alien Invasion and/or Second Coming. Your knowledge of what abides within will determine your experience. But either way, "you" got to go in order to make room for the abiding truth.

I hope you heard what Norval wrote above, that discussions of alternate time lines do not really matter (except as entertainment & the practice of discerning), it's always right now!

It's really beautiful when you understand. I know what I've written may not make sense, still I was moved to write.

[Norval]

Spider Crater on Mercury



The full image.
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/jpeg/PIA10397.jpg

As many know of our research into Concise and Systematic, or CS crater chains this image was
posted and we were asked to take a look at it. Yes, those are CS crater chains crisscrossing the
area. The chains of craters were formed before the main big central one as the ejected material
from the big crater covers the CS crater chains. This would be similar to our aircraft strafing runs
over an ammo dump and then the dump exploding.

And, NASA's story.
http://photojournal.jpl.nasa.gov/catalog/PIA10397

[Orion11]

jeeeez!! I thought the same thing before even reading your text..

wow man.. whatever was there.... they made darn sure there was nothing left.

jeez.. they blasted the hell out of that area...

this is weird man.......... but makes total sense.

thanks so much bro.

[LadyGolfer]

Hi Norval, I was curious about a few things. I have recently read the king james version on Revelations. This is a huge change for me because I have always had an aversion to the bible, but seemed as a child to be fixated on the book of Revelations. I am trying to sift through it all and gain new knowledge. I am hoping that you can assist me with this. What I would like to do is reread the passages with new eyes so to speak. Any pointers? With all the characters mentioned it becomes quite confusing. I understand I am to replace god with ET, but who are the others characters. Who is who? Any assistance you can offer me would be greatly appreciated.

Thank You

[beauwalton@rocketmail.com]

Originally Posted by Norval

While there are many that post about varied time lines, levels of realities, dimensions, alternate
universes, and so on, and so on, and so on, pretty much everything one could imagine with their
imagination, I can only tell you of what we have learned about this physical universe we are in.
Even if it were a possibility of all these other realities, do we really need any of it to explain the
reality of today? While some of it may explain away various aspects of what we know to be
accepted facts about the ET / UFO information do we need anything more than just our own
known physical universe? Advanced technologies are fully capable, with some applied deception,
misdirection and subterfuge, to cause one to believe that they may have time traveled, or visited
other dimensions, universes and planets. There fore we will only discuss this one line of time, as
after all time is only a mutually agreed upon method of measurement to determine when an event
occurred, not another dementia. This has side tracked many.

When just contemplating this known physical universe our technological advancement allows us to
be able to now accept what we have seen demonstrated by these ET / UFOs as just that.
Applied technologies that we used to think of as ghosts, demons, angels, and all other distracting,
deceptive, and bogus crapola pulled on mankind over the past few thousand years can now be
understood and accepted. And, it was all, just a test.

This is the end of thousands of years where all who have lived and died of mankind have been
tested as to their integrity, goodness of heart, honor, all that makes you, YOU. Your collective
experiences tested you, and your responses noted, all of your life. The judgment is not from with
out, but from with in, our own hearts are our judges. Disclosure about the ET / bible connection,
based on what has happened over the centuries and today's modern technological
comprehension, now tells us that the rest of the story will be as true as what it told would happen,
and has.

There is a probability that there will be a so called "Staged Second Coming", ET disclosure event,
that would act as another deceiving misdirection. Don't fall for it. With the destruction in our solar
system that we have seen and past astronomers having witnessed we doubt that they can display
the kind of ships that the bible says are coming to earth. The Heavenly New Jerusalem is 1,500
miles big. Do you really think it will be coming alone? Now remember that it says, now King,
Jesus is returning with a vengeance. There is this attitude that one has when dealing with ones
enemies that didn't want him to become King. Not counting that it is said that the thoughts and
heart of Jesus is with mankind, and the bad ET's have gone way beyond their allowed testing of
mankind. Bluntly, the dude is returning, very ******.

The good side is all of the lies, deceptions, slander, bad mean types will be gone. Long live the
King; would be a good saying to learn I think, but that's just a suggestion. Imagine for a moment,
the exopolitical implications that the bible is true, the sociological implications would be staggering
as I can attest to, as the presidential advisor that visited with me on this very boat, twice, was a
sociologist. That was shortly after the think tank incident.

Norval L. Cunningham
Gale smart

I just can't imagine the technology we will inherit when he does come!

[taadev]

Here is another site of Norvals:
http://www.craterchains.com/ns/nspage.html

[Czymra]

I see you revive old ghosts.
I must admit some of that information that is here is quite amazing... but I can't see what the benefit is.
It's also sad to see how things were handled before subscription went in.

[BROOK]

wow..that was intense! Very rude, and I'm glad that phase of our development is over
I'm so glad all of you here are not like that...I myself will send them blessings as they are very confused individules...and I hope they sort it out. We can all agree to disagree...but we must try to do so with an ounce of respect.

[taadev]

This info was new to me. These 'ghosts' are a lot older than you and I; Norval appears to have been onto something.

It seems mathematically improbable these were random acts; possible, just unlikley. He and I also seem to be in agreement on some key inversions made in our Bibles, but I could be wrong on this. Anyway, after looking into his work I'm sorry to see he's gone.

This one was particularly interesting: twelve fairly semetrical hits with a larger one in the center. Twelve is a special number, as you may know, as is 13. (Not unlike the Avalon 'lucky 13' whistleblower thread. As every true whistleblower knows 'bad luck' follows them around.

Even the symbology at 'Avalon', one wonders what the odds are for the the 'lucky' number 13 to happen to land on the whistle-blower thread-id? (Look at the URL: "f=13".)

To all you true blue whistleblowers out there take heart life is but a dream, or as Bill Hicks would say it's all just a ride;
the best is yet to come, for YOU.

Using Hick's theme, symbolically, the big one in the middle is G-d and the twelve are those evil scums trading children and the planet for very short term, relatively speaking, $power$. (This one's for you Bill!)

Enki Catena on Ganymede

Originally Posted by BROOK

wow..that was intense! Very rude, and I'm glad that phase of our development is over
I'm so glad all of you here are not like that...I myself will send them blessings as they are very confused individules...and I hope they sort it out. We can all agree to disagree...but we must try to do so with an ounce of respect.

[alienarena]

Caused by a broken up comet? Toss a hand full of rocks and see what you get.
It is IMPOSSIBLE to get such concise and systematic craters as they tell you.
They are feeding you BS ! ! Feel like a mushroom yet?
Look at the size of those in line craters !
Picture if such "weapons" were used against earth ! !
CS Crater Chains are a product of intelligent weapons of mass destruction.
Wake up people.
Now you must QUESTION ALL craters, everywhere. Comet, Asteroid, or WEAPON?

With all due respect...unless I'm missing something - I'm not quite clear on how this couldn't be a crater chain caused by comets.

Is it possible that a large comet came in at just the right angle and hit these areas much like when you skip a rock over the water?

I've seen a rock skip a pretty straight line across the water.

[sfth13]

I wonder if this mining in the pictures has anything to do with Helium-3. These are great threads with some eye opening info by Gale and Norval. Thanks again

Helium-3 (He-3) is a light, non-radioactive isotope of helium with two protons and one neutron, rare on Earth, sought for use in nuclear fusion research. The abundance of helium-3 is thought to be greater on the Moon (embedded in the upper layer of regolith by the solar wind over billions of years) and the solar system's gas giants (left over from the original solar nebula), though still low in quantity (28 ppm of lunar regolith is helium-4 and 0.01 ppm is helium-3).[1] It is proposed to be used as a second-generation fusion power source.

The helion, the nucleus of a helium-3 atom, consists of two protons but only one neutron, in contrast to two neutrons in ordinary helium. Its existence was first proposed in 1934 by the Australian nuclear physicist Mark Oliphant while based at Cambridge University's Cavendish Laboratory, in an experiment in which fast deuterons were reacted with other deuteron targets (the first demonstration of nuclear fusion). Helium-3, as an isotope, was postulated to be radioactive, until helions from it were accidentally identified as a trace "contaminant" in a sample of natural helium (which is mostly helium-4) from a gas well, by Luis W. Alvarez and Robert Cornog in a cyclotron experiment at the Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory, in 1939. [2]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium-3

[Norval]

Originally Posted by sfth13

I wonder if this mining in the pictures has anything to do with Helium-3. These are great threads with some eye opening info by Gale and Norval. Thanks again



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helium-3

I like your idea about HE3, , just possibly.
Somebody has been doing resource harvesting in our solar system for some time, and with some very big equipment. But, it does take quite alot of resources to "war" on others.

[hobbit]

If Norval is finished , as He say's.
I am left wondering if I have been following the plot of a good fiction story book.
All I have seen are photo's of most likely the effects of an electrical universe in operation, and nothing else.
I have read barrow fulls of ASSUMPTIONS piled on top of each other.
I have every confidence that all levels of beings exist in this universe, and that all things are possible.
Am I missing something, or is this fiction?
hobbit

[Norval]

Hobbit and Monkey,




What thunderbolts stuff wants one to accept is that these are the same.
Note the flat electric arc scaring on the material, NOT an over ten mile high volcano, or in this case at least a couple of inches.

Yes, and we all can see bunny rabbits in the clouds too.

Quote from an article about Olympus Mons on Mars.

"The central edifice of Olympus Mons has a summit caldera 24 kilometers (15 miles)
above the surrounding plains. Surrounding the volcano is an outward-facing scarp 550
kilometers (342 miles) in diameter and several kilometers high."

[piers2210]

Can anyone tell me who wrote the bible and when???

[alyscat]

Ummmm, which version?
alys

[piers2210]

Alys,

Perfect answer!!

P.

[orthodoxymoron]

Originally Posted by piers2210

Can anyone tell me who wrote the bible and when???

Lots of different people wrote the 39 Old Tesament and 27 New Testament books of the Bible over a very long period of time...from approximately 1450 BC to 100 AD. Then there is the question of whether they had supernatural, extraterrestrial, or ghost-writing help? Did they plagiarize? What sources did they use? What portions of the Bible have been redacted or changed? Why were some books of the Bible included in the Cannon, and some rejected at the Council of Nicea in 325 AD? Who decided, and why? Who is the definitive interpreter of scripture? If scripture is infallible...do we need an infallible interpreter...to receive the very Word of God? Why are the Teachings of Jesus not the definitive doctrinal statement of Christianity? Is Jesus simply a hood ornament on the very fast moving Bablyonian, Egyptian, Roman, Jewish freight-train which hit him without attempting to put on the brakes? Is Christianity really Churchianity? Did evil aliens invent our religions to control us? Did Lucifer invent both God and Satan...and then control both...sort of like financing both sides of a war? I knew a graduate of the Harvard Divinity School who did not consider the Bible to be the 'Word of God'.

Ok, I took my medicine, and I'm calming down. I'm trying to sort of do what Norval and Gale are doing...that is, integrate free-thinking ufology, science, etc. with at least some aspects of the Bible. I presently study the Bible like any other book. I center my study on the Teachings of Jesus...or those words attributed to Jesus. To me, they make sense...regardless of the source. I believe Jesus existed...and actually said most of the words which are red, in a red-letter edition of the Bible. The Jesus Seminar is a good place to begin regarding a scholarly analysis of the 20 or so Gospels ('The Complete Gospels'-Polebridge Press), of which 4 are included in the Bible. Ralph Ellis has written some fascinating books which are quite unorthodox and speculative (though well researched) such as 'Jesus: Last of the Pharaohs'. Nicholas Notovitch's 'The Unknown Life of Jesus' is a recommended read. The Ellen White book 'Desire of Ages' is one of my favorites.

My bias is a combination of the Teachings of Jesus with the U.S. Constitution. I lean toward reincarnation...but without the hocus-pocus and eastern mysticism. I try not to conjure up the supernatural...but sometimes they bug me anyway! There's a lot of confusion and controversy out there in theology, philosophy, ufology, etc. Sometimes a nice long walk in nature does a lot more good than reading books! The truth is out there!

That was the long answer! Now what was the question?

[Czymra]

Jesus comming as a thief in the night is you, to take back the sacred teachings.

So that's why it's Ninjeetsu! (Alright, bad joke but it had to be.)

[777 The Great Work]

Originally Posted by Czymra

So that's why it's Ninjeetsu! (Alright, bad joke but it had to be.)

No not a bad joke , because that is the way they think.

[dayzero]

Sorry - my mistake!

However, my point is that Norval was/is a nasty piece of work in my opinion, and he was eventually banned, and it was his own miserable fault and not anyone else's, and if he hadn't been so unpleasant he could be here now discussing his pet research with us, but nooooo.......

So now he's slagging us all off on another forum.
No point beating about the bush!

Still, I think we're all over it now...lol

[dayzero]

".....but has anyone wondered why we aren't getting any people coming forward?......."

mmm yeah.......unfortunately there was a lot of damage done by the disturbances last year. many people left - Henry Deacon, St Clair and others.



has anyone seen/heard the latest Camelot interviews - George Green and Brian O'Leary in particular.....really excellent both interviews [the vid with oleary, the audio w/ george]

http://www.projectcamelot.net/audio_interviews.html