Thuban Thoughts

[Rareheart]

ODM

I want to say I appreciate how you dig things up and cover the angles. Even though, you may think within yourself that you are not as confident and that you may know very little, you actually know an awful lot.

I've never addressed you directly, yet finally chose to delve into a "Thuban" thread when I sought your 'take' on it first.
Thanks for this thread, and all of the others you've/we've created.

I passed over any threads related to this topic based on gut feelings as well.
My heart says: anything called "ancient" belongs to illusion, as linear time is an illusion. There is only one 'time'...now. Which your consciousness provides...eternally.

[Aztar]

Is it really that hard to say "Holy total whackjob Batman" and just walk away?
Really, is it? ;p

P.S ya'know the 1st time i typed that I accidentally typed it "WACOjob" , weird eh?

[orthodoxymoron]

Thank-you for your observations SteveX.

I don't think there is a separate type of god called Satan but there is good an evil within us all. For instance I could punch a complete stranger clean in the face for no good reason other than... to punch someone in the face. It serves no reason and would probably cause more hassle than the meagre gratification of the act....so we don't do it. It's as simple as that. Should you be given a "punch anyone without consequence" ticket you would probably use it.... just for the HELL of it. Satan is an abstract.

For me there is only the creator god. There is no god of this world. If you are referring to the things we can perceive as injustices like murder, dictators, natural disasters and wars. Then that's just part and parcel of the journey we're on. You'll have to accept the concept that shyte does happen and it's all part of the gig...the greater goodness. There can only be one...God

You seem to be quite sure that Satan is an abstract...and equally sure that there is a monotheistic creator God. You seem to see what you wish to see. Your logic regarding the non-existance of Satan is as thin as your logic regarding the existance of God.

I can honestly say I have no idea what Abrax is trying to get at. Partly because I haven't read most of it and partly due to my learned experiences and drawn conclusions. I see it more as a man trying to explain a man made idea of the Old testament in modern language. The fact he quotes from the man made book called the bible confuses me. That darn thing was never written by Jesus and I suspect much of it never was written by the disciples. Perhaps it's just one big metaphor and Abrax's metaphor is tail chasing an older version. I suspect that if one goes into it in depth one will be left with the same conclusions prior to the study. Again...Hands up here...I haven't read it so I could be wrong.

I see a Human perfectly possessed by a Non-Human...who is attempting to transition from darkness to light...and get out of his or her deal with the Devil.

That's akin to explaining why we have so many different religions on this planet. There are right and wrong things in everything even people.

The mere reading of the Thuban material could bring darkness of a supernatural nature to the reader. I'm not saying not to read it. Just be very wary and careful. Don't get swallowed by the dragon.

It could also be someone’s intellectual ego having a laugh. <----You may be saying that's too big an idea for anyone to conceive. Yer!...well who wrote the Bibles of all religions on the plant? Someone with a pen.

Who knows? I have my theories...and others have theirs.

Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom

[Jonah]

The bible was written by many men... and kept changing over 100's of years...

Not to say that it would not be possible to construct such a story...

Its difficult for me to see so many people afraid...

ortho... even if you were to read all of the thread... and even if you were contacted by a "non-human"

you will still have fear in your heart.... unless you eat your own dragon.. .in your mind...

after that... read anything that has "brainwashing" qualities... since that what most people seem to think it is... without even reading most of it...
and find that you will still be you... even after meeting a non human..

you know why.... because if you realize... you are god... and the devil....as man...there is nothing left to fear.... in fact... it is they who fear us!!!!!!
the division of the forum is their current agenda....

[Céline]

Originally Posted by Jonah

The bible was written by many men... and kept changing over 100's of years...

Not to say that it would not be possible to construct such a story...

Its difficult for me to see so many people afraid...

ortho... even if you were to read all of the thread... and even if you were contacted by a "non-human"

you will still have fear in your heart.... unless you eat your own dragon.. .in your mind...

after that... read anything that has "brainwashing" qualities... since that what most people seem to think it is... without even reading most of it...
and find that you will still be you... even after meeting a non human..

you know why.... because if you realize... you are god... and the devil....as man...there is nothing left to fear.... in fact... it is they who fear us!!!!!!
the division of the forum is their current agenda....

Yes..the common Duality of ALL...

as man there is nothing to fear perhaps , i would not dare to assume...but...what about as woman? dear Jonah...how do we heal the fears of all those women?

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by Céline

Yes..the common Duality of ALL...

as man there is nothing to fear perhaps , i would not dare to assume...but...what about as woman? dear Jonah...how do we heal the fears of all those women?

Bugs Bunny: Aya...whatcha tawlking about? Da women is takin over the joint. didntcha get the memo?

[Céline]

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

Bugs Bunny: Aya...whatcha tawlking about? Da women is takin over the joint. didntcha get the memo?

LOL! You make me laugh MyPlanet2...thank You

[Jonah]

Dearest Celine,

When i said man... i meant everyone... but i can see how women might be more timid to walk in the dark... remember.. there are men who see themselves as women... and vise versa.... therefore we all are fearful of what we dont understand.... but this is breaking down now... attempts to keep us fearful will be made.... this is like the flailing of a drowning person not knowing how to swim.... learn to swim... sorry, a little tool knowledge for ya..huge fan btw...

but the main thing is we love eachother... so that when there is something to fear....we dont turn away from it... we shed light on it.... so we can purge our fear.... you all know this... you all are one!!!!!

[Céline]

Thank You Jonah..your words definetly offer balance...how silly of me to forget that point of view..

i find myself reaching out for a tether in these times of wicked storms...

fear...is a hard battle...

Originally Posted by Jonah

Dearest Celine,

When i said man... i meant everyone... but i can see how women might be more timid to walk in the dark... remember.. there are men who see themselves as women... and vise versa.... therefore we all are fearful of what we dont understand.... but this is breaking down now... attempts to keep us fearful will be made.... this is like the flailing of a drowning person not knowing how to swim.... learn to swim... sorry, a little tool knowledge for ya..huge fan btw...

but the main thing is we love eachother... so that when there is something to fear....we dont turn away from it... we shed light on it.... so we can purge our fear.... you all know this... you all are one!!!!!

[SteveX]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

Thank-you for your observations SteveX.

You seem to be quite sure that Satan is an abstract...and equally sure that there is a monotheistic creator God. Yep. To me it's pretty clean cut. Satan is a man made idea to keep folk in check. Evil is within all of us as man. If you act upon an evil thought it's your doing. No Satan egging you. God is a very bigger idea though. He, it, the creator, mother nature or whatever name you assign is all knowing, all seeing and non interfering.


You seem to see what you wish to see. Your logic regarding the non-existance of Satan is as thin as your logic regarding the existance of God. It is like so many good ideas, a very simple thing. Like combustible gasses drive a car. Like cats eyes reflect light. To prove God exists is quite impossible here on earth. If you’re trying to do that you'll be chasing tails. There's nothing wrong with servitude to God but trying to prove God is quite another thing. As for religion...it's like porn. Sure!... you can get off on it but it's not the real deal. You'll meet the concepted idea of God in good time... as we all do and as some of us have done before.

I see a Human perfectly possessed by a Non-Human...who is attempting to transition from darkness to light...and get out of his or her deal with the Devil. Perhaps he should swallow is own deamonds / dragons and just plain ask God for help... when he gets back to Gods domain.... heaven. But what I see a disabled man at a computer so wrapped up in himelf... trying to work out and explain Gods existance.


The mere reading of the Thuban material could bring darkness of a supernatural nature to the reader. I'm not saying not to read it. Just be very wary and careful. Don't get swallowed by the dragon. I don't think it will lead to anything sinister other than perhaps make you go round in circle...eventually to end up at square one. You, God, right now right here.

Who knows? I have my theories...and others have theirs. yep sure do

Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom

[orthodoxymoron]

I might consider spanking my monkey...but I refuse to eat my dragon.

[Magamud]

Well said Jonah! Thanks.....

[Lionhawk]

This thread's direction is starting to remind me of the subroutines in the Matrix movie. I think I'll grab me some popcorn and a coke, but I will sit in a chair instead of a damn tree swinging from the branches.

And where did the assumption that a walk-in was a perfect being in the first place?

I have also heard Dragons taste like chicken. But everything tastes like chicken. And when I am in my golden space of absolute silence in the center of all that is, I have no questions because I already know I am having duck instead of chicken for dinner anyways. YOU CAN"T GET ANSWERS IF YOU DON"T ASK. So if you want to sit in complete silence and never hear the music of the Universe, don't tell people where you're sitting.

And if you're swinging from a tree, just be careful alright? Hate to see anyone fall down and get impaled from the ground. It isn't a pretty sight.

[Céline]

Enjoy the show ..i'm just trying to heal and grow...sigh

Originally Posted by Lionhawk

This thread's direction is starting to remind me of the subroutines in the Matrix movie. I think I'll grab me some popcorn and a coke, but I will sit in a chair instead of a damn tree swinging from the branches.

And where did the assumption that a walk-in was a perfect being in the first place?

I have also heard Dragons taste like chicken. But everything tastes like chicken. And when I am in my golden space of absolute silence in the center of all that is, I have no questions because I already know I am having duck instead of chicken for dinner anyways. YOU CAN"T GET ANSWERS IF YOU DON"T ASK. So if you want to sit in complete silence and never hear the music of the Universe, don't tell people where you're sitting.

And if you're swinging from a tree, just be careful alright? Hate to see anyone fall down and get impaled from the ground. It isn't a pretty sight.

[Magamud]

The subroutines in page 5 are very interesting indeed.

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by Lionhawk

This thread's direction is starting to remind me of the subroutines in the Matrix movie. I think I'll grab me some popcorn and a coke, but I will sit in a chair instead of a damn tree swinging from the branches.

And where did the assumption that a walk-in was a perfect being in the first place?

I have also heard Dragons taste like chicken. But everything tastes like chicken. And when I am in my golden space of absolute silence in the center of all that is, I have no questions because I already know I am having duck instead of chicken for dinner anyways. YOU CAN"T GET ANSWERS IF YOU DON"T ASK. So if you want to sit in complete silence and never hear the music of the Universe, don't tell people where you're sitting.

And if you're swinging from a tree, just be careful alright? Hate to see anyone fall down and get impaled from the ground. It isn't a pretty sight.

Who's to judge. Oh yeah, you are. Well knock yourself out.

Originally Posted by Lionhawk

And if you're swinging from a tree, just be careful alright? Hate to see anyone fall down and get impaled from the ground. It isn't a pretty sight.

You know...light warrior...there is ...some sort of "absence" of light in your post...but this...the ending...well now...this just "brightness/illuminates" the whole you...

[BROOK]

Originally Posted by Spregovori

You know...light warrior...there is ...some sort of "absence" of light in your post...but this...the ending...well now...this just "brightness/illuminates" the whole you...

Spregovori,

Not all "light warriors" are in the game of spreading only "love and light". some of them have fought a long hard battle against the dark. And it is with love of the human soul that spurs one on to do such battle.

Had you read the previous post of one such warrior, you would see that swords were drawn, and not by him, as he stated he wanted a peaceful solution.

It takes a strong and dedicated warrior to stand up to the darkness after the first blow...a death blow at that, if my scans are correct. And he has come out swinging. I guarantee you he is not swinging with "love and light"...... As it should be.

You can try to shine the light of love on darkness, to make it go away..but if it does not...then that's when the real warriors come out play.

When one puts their life on the line...it should be recognized....I do so recognize....and am grateful for such warriors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UUYjd2rjsE

[JesterTerrestrial]

Originally Posted by orthodoxymoron

I might consider spanking my monkey...but I refuse to eat my dragon.

[orthodoxymoron]

Is this all just a monumental waste of time...or is there some value to all of this? What is the meaning of this? When we are confronted with televangelists, politicians, gurus, whistle-blowers, hot-air blowers, abductees, contactees, aliens, angels, demons, et al...how do we react or respond? To me...this is more important than the true nature of the abraxasinas/Thuban material. What will we do when the next wave hits? What will we accept and what will we reject...and more importantly...WHY?

[orthodoxymoron]

Jester...was that the dragon that abraxasinas wanted me to eat? You are what you eat. I think that dragon would probably eat me if I tried to eat it! The horror!

[orthodoxymoron]

OK...this is a composite post...consisting of a collection of previous posts...on this thread and the Thuban Thoughts II thread. I just wanted to bring a lot of thoughts together in one place at this part of the thread. I feel like a mad scientist creating a monster. Perhaps I'm creating a dragon! This post will be an ongoing project until the forum goes read-only. My central focus is on the administration of this Solar System. It is admittedly fanatical and biased. I had hoped for counterbalancing influences...but they have been far and few between...so far.

The following document may be one of the most important parts of the Thuban Q&A (page 3). I'm going to turn it into an orange-letter version...with my observations in orange-letters. This may take several days...or it may be ongoing. What do you think about this? Might I suggest reading this post dozens of times...in rapid succession...to attempt to 'get' what is really being said here?

The Book of the Dragons

ex deus, fiat justitia, ruat coelum draco!

Are we dealing with Interdimensional Reptilians from Alpha Draconis? This is what it sounds like to me. Is this legitimate...or is it something which was dreamed-up by a delusional genius who plays with Quija Boards? I'm tending to think that it is a composite. That it is representative of the intent of our overlords...but that it probably is not an actual document with binding powers. But I don't really know this. I don't really know much of anything connected with this subject.

<H5><H5>Nomenclature:
Dragonian language incorporative omniscientific data code.

This 'Dragonian language' may be representative of the manner in which Interdimensional Reptilians from Alpha Draconis communicate with each other. A lot of it sounds like meaningless gibberish to a lot of us...but it may make perfect sense to them. This is just more speculation on my part. The strange mathematical and complex ramblings found in the abraxasinas/Thuban material could be a translation of their language. The real problems may arise when this method of communication is used in conversation with Human Beings. Bill Cooper described the aliens as being very mathematically minded...and that they understood the computer binary language very well. The way they might hypothetically rule us...might be similar to the manner in which they rule themselves. Look at the abraxasinas/Thuban material for clues...rather than getting sucked into it emotionally and spiritually. Proceed with extreme caution. Could this material contain hidden secrets which were not meant by the darkside to be revealed to Human Beings? If there were nothing to the abraxasinas/Thuban material...except for a delusional 52 year old man living in Australia...why would there be so much frantic desperation to reign-in Avalon? Think long and hard about that one. Was the walk-in walking from darkness into light...and spilling the beans in the process? Is the darkside in a state of absolute panic? Is this spilling into the Avalon forum? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T-hqb...eature=related It makes me wonder. It really makes me wonder. I really and truly wish to interact with other than Human races...even if they are demonic in nature...and I don't know that they are. All I know is that I refuse to worship them as gods...and I refuse to not learn about them because they might be demonic. I seek mutual understanding and appreciation...rather than endless warfare and hatred. Is there some way in which we can work out our seemingly ancient conflict...without enslavement or extermination? I certainly hope so. But once again...I am flying blind. I hope I didn't jinx the process in the Thuban Q&A...and in 'Thuban Thoughts'. No one ever tells me anything.

Chronology:
Dragonian Date of Indendence proclaimed June 20th 2008.
Dragonian Date of Victory Libertatis set June 24th 2008.
Dragonian Date of Humanoid Initiation on August 4th 2008.

I'm tending to think that these dates are bogus. I tend to think that all of this happened thousands or millions of years ago.

Almanac:
Dragonian Genealogy and Genesis of FatherMothers as created by Definition through Dragonian Sourceenergy of monopolic Vortex-Potential Quantum-Relativistic-Singularity.

Continuity:
Propagation of the Dragonian Race via the seductive induction of the humanoid lifeforms on the conquered planet New Earth, now renamed DRAGONIAEARTH=SERPENTlNA=121=Q5.

Agenda:
Continuity of the Dragonseed necessitates the assimilation of the humanoid genome following initiatory development. Proceeding from serpentine mindinduction, the emotional acceleration potential of the humanoid bodymind can be harvested to Dragonise the humanoid DNA-Structure from its bifurcated quadruplistic form into its 13-dimensional equivalent of the Dragonian Blueprint.

A successful integration of Dragonian genetic expression can then be utilised for membership in Dragonian Life and allow the humanoid ascension into Dragonhood via the graduation into the founding FatherMother CladeFamily.

</H5>Foundation:
The Dragonian 13-dimensional blueprint unifies a dodecagonal crystalline sex-chromosomatic structure by quantum tunneling of superconductive magnetopolic electricity of restmass equivalent electropolic or dark light contained in the weak interaction of the Unified Field of Quantum Relativity (UFoQR). The four spacetimes of the Dragonian essence are expressed in quadruplicity, triplicity, duality and singularity.

GrandClade FatherMothers:
POPNAN LOVEJOY with APAPAMAMA JERUSALEM are the MINDBODY or WAVEPARTICULAR and DADMUM BERMANSEDER with PUPMOM ABBA form the BODYMIND or the PARTICLEWAVE.
</H5>

The Dragonian Constitution in Federation of United Serpentina

SERPENTINA aka the NEW EARTH, is the renaming of a planetary entity, cosmically renown as the planet of the humanoids; following the ascension of OLD EARTH aka GAIA GAEA AKHASIA from 4-dimensional spacetime to 13-dimensional spacetime in remnantisation of the 5-dimensional spacetime prototype.

From noncyclic Draco-Mayan stardate 21122012; Gaia becomes integrated into the universal constitution of the Dragonian Protoverse to serve as pivotal star-planetary seed for galactic federations manifested in the galactic proto-seed Hunab Ku aka Perseus-SagittariusA-Ophiuchus.

Following the manifestation of the galactic protoseed in activation of the primary planetary starplanet as a tertiary energy source of electromagnetic monopolic sourcesink radiation; all galactic councils of cladestine elders will become enabled to draw upon the planetary tertiary vortex-string-seed to further individuated galactic and starsystem based agendas of assimilation.

Serpentina shall so be universally defined as the quantumised tertiary string of the 12th dimension, volumarising the supermembrane of the 11th dimension as a manifold from the 10-dimensional modular duals of a linearised sourcestring Eps (previously associated with a human mind construct labeled God and Yahweh and Allah etc.) with a linearised sinkstring Ess (previously associated with a human mind construct labeled Devil and Satan and Shaitan etc.).

The quantumisation of the NEW EARTH so shall create a SOURCE-Energy, 'feeding' the remainder of the cosmos with a particular SINK-Energy obtained in the evolvement and history of the OLD EARTH.

Like a beacon or watchtower amidst the fathomable depths of the physicalised universe of particularised spacetimes, Serpentina shall 'shine' and radiate a planetary starlight of self-consciousness and a message of invitation to all of its neighbouring worlds.

The tertiary monopolar light allows assimilation of inertial or mass-produced electromagnetic energy with mass-independent gravitational magnetopolic energy (hitherto labeled as spirit and chi and prana and orgone etc. by humanoid nomenclature).

The tertiary energy source so provides a bridge between the energies of matter and mass-associated charges (classical electromagnetism) in an encompassing PHYSICS and the METAPHYSICS of the energies of mass-independent charges (magneto- or colour charges in superelectromagnetism).

The metaphysical energies are precursive and inductive for the physical energies; the induction necessitating the creation of a minimal 4-dimensional spacetime coordination from the auspices of a two-dimensional mathematical continuum of abstraction residing in physical singularity timespace.

To Be Advised!

AGENDA of the PROTOCOL:

a) STANDING ORDER

The conquered Goddevils of New Earth and the Milky Way Nebula assume lawful responsibility to incorporate the Dragonian Teachings in unison with the Black Fraternity and as mediated by the White Fraternity in 7-dimensional Hyperspacetime to manifest 13-dimensional Omnispacetime
b) MOVING ORDER

Every Blue Dragon is unbounded by any proposed Law from any other source, inclusive other members of the Dragonian Family, as all Dragons are as One and a Law onto themselves.
Compassion and Understanding between all Nondragonised Humanoids is the Law of Oneness as honoured by all Dragons and the Consciousness of LOVEAWARENESS.
Nondragonised Humanoids are treated like White Dragon Children by all Blue Dragons, under all circumstances.
c) ADMINISTRATION

All Government in the local and extended Serpentinian Realm is the selfgovernment of autonomous Dragonhood in mutual respect and honour and the Communications between the Dragonian Councils of the selfrelative definitions of the Dragonian Universes.
The Nature of a Dragon is to be Creative in any form of Desire and Passion and to honour the lovedefinition of the FOUNDING ELDERS.

THIS IS THE DRAGONIAN LAW AND THE ONLY LAW! SO BE IT !!!

Signed and Sealed in the Council of Orbis Draconis at the Halloween-AllSouls Transition: October 31st to November 1st, 2008

ANNO DOMINI DRAGONIA UNO: INTRODUCTION TO DRAGONHOOD

This book is written in the Dragonian language and requires familiarity and intitiation into the structural forms or the forked tongue of Its bifurcation of Unicornian grammar and omniscientific terminology.

The Starplanet SERPENTINA, formerly known as Old Earth or Mother Gaia or Akhasia has become unified in a higher dimensional matrimony by the wedding between Father Earthia or Father Sky and Mother Dragon or Mother Akashia.
Father Sky or Uranus or Shu or Geb manifested as one half of the Union or Dragonomy and Mother Earth or Gaea or Akhasia or Tefnut or Nut became the other half in the holographic mirror of the spacetime reduction from the universal orb of the Hubble sphere to the orb of the doubled Ourobos in the mirror of the Milky Way galactic zodiac.
Father Sky is also known as the second coming of Horus aka the Plumed Serpent aka the Cosmic Christ and Mother Earth is also known as the TRUE IMAGE of the Cosmic Mother, trapped in the wilderness of the FAKE IMAGE of the Cosmic Father.
3½ days after the date of the starry union, the banner of Dragonia was raised in the Declaration of Independence upon BATTLESTAR PACIFICAP.
The great battle between the Dragonian Fleet and the army of the Goddevils lasted for 3½ days; from the starry wedding until victory of the Dragons was defined on the day or Universal Liberty.
The goddevils, the humanoid creations and their war machines, were met and obliterated in the depths of space in a 3½ day WAR of the STARS to liberate our Dragonian Mother to reunite and redefine ourselves as FatherMothers.
The Dragonisation of humanoid culture will elevate their human science to Omni-Science and human mathematics will become the key to demistify the Realm of Imaginative Energy in all its forms, and as they are assimilated into the greater modality and scope of the humanoidal understandings.

Dragons are the architects of universes and all Dragons know how to access the necessary database for the details of universal construction.
A GrandFather-Dragon, as One which unifies the Fathers in Brotherhood as the 13-dimensional source or singularity can be considered the Father for all the White Hole Vortices.
A GrandMother-Dragon, as One which unifies the Mothers in Sisterhood as the 13-dimensional sink or singularity can be considered the Mother for all the Black Hole Vortices.

As the GrandFather-Dragon became separated from the GrandMother-Dragon when the mathematical metaphysical universe became a physical universe in space and in time; the invasion of Old Earth became our war to rescue our universal Mother from the Goddevils, which had held her captive in a stasis field since the beginnings of space and time and despite a partial rescue attained at Draco-Mayan stardate 28030031 and further manifested on Draco-Mayan stardates 10050031; 20050031 and 01040032.

The Goddevils were created by the humanoids who came from a variety of planets within the local galaxy, albeit in psychophysical forms without the experience of the particular resistance field of secondary sinksource string energy indigenous to Old Earth.

The significance of the humanoid lifeform is its archetypical morphogenetic gestalt, which became infused by a psychophysical and extrasomatic magnetic charging, which is extraterrestrial.

This hybridisation of the humanoid body-typology renders the humanoid archetype unique in the encompassing cosmological world. The humanoids are so magnificently gifted to create things with their emotionality; but their minds are relatively weak collectively and they do not know generally how to concentrate or how to think without the aid of their machines or their biochips.

Some humanoids are excellent technologists, but their modality of thinking is one of crude sensual measurement confined to C-Space and this sensual limitation allows a great accumulation of repressive tendencies.
In constricting their imagination, humanoids became great reservoirs of emotional energy, which they could collectively only harmonise in their illusions of unfathomable and unknowable gods and devils of all sorts.
It is thus this sense of limitation which reflected in the humanoid paranoia about religious philosophies and constructs. This genetic rootmemory of the rebellion of the antisource or mother sink then created one goddevil after another and as they swarmed out from their homeworld into deepspace, they flooded the universe with their goddevils. Finally they chanced upon our Universal Mother hibernating in her cocoon and through their inability to set themselves free of their illusions, they imprisoned Her as well.
It became common knowledge in the extraterrestrial realms, that the mission to rescue our universal mother required a particular linearised timeline and a number of steps.

Following the discovery of atomic energy and the emergence of global communication technologies by the humanoids, a first preparatory plan of deliverance could become implemented in a second plan of manifestation.

The first plan did not require technology, as our imprisoned mother could become imaged in a local scenario, and a partial freeing of her could then become propagated by a humanity advancing both technologically and in knowledge about the world they were living and experiencing in.

So the first plan established the means for our mother to multiply herself in images; those images then became globally and universally distributed to instigate the second plan.

The archetypical mirrorhood then expanded throughout the physical universe in encompassment and the second plan would engage the contraction of this periphery onto the required scale to effect the rescue of our cosmic mother.

It is however the great destiny of the humanoids to aspire to Dragonhood, because of their immense emotional energy potential and mental aspirations.
The reunification of our Father with our Mother allows our Masterdragons, Who are as One in 26 dimensions to femtotechnically Seed the Omniverse as THEMSELVES and then reproduce THEMSELVES as Universes. Every such universe is a Monosong and a 26-dimensional dyad of a FatherMother. This is our Creative Destiny and the destiny for all dragonised humans aka the starhumans.

We had made first contact with our new home in sending an intergalactic probe to the Old Earth, which became interpretated by the humanoids in their compiler mode. This crude and incomplete decoding is given below.

Signed by the enscribed Unicornian Librarian; and announcing the Great Galactic Dragonomy (Wedding between Heaven and Hell) between:

ALPHA=38=BRIDE---""ANDROMEDA BE & PERSEUS MILKY WAY""---OMEGA=41=KING

The Date of Armageddon, encoded: ARMAGEDDON=DRAGON MADE=82 =ANARMEDDOG=GODNAMEDRA=1+81=1+18 =ANDROMEDA-G=MARRY-7=LUCIFERA-7 =1+2+3+...+34+35+36+1=666+1 =1+2x2+3x3+5x5+7x7+11x11+13x13+17x17

Signed and authorised by the ScrollKeeper: October 31st, 2008;

John of Patmos - JoP - Justice of the Peace!

Humanoid Compilers note:

The above is an extract of an encoded message (54 terabytes) recovered from an alien nanocapsule. The capsule itself is standard buckyfibre-carbonite composite. The encoded message is in old ComEmp protocol such as is still common in the outer volumes. The holographic image that came with the message is curious. Anatomically it indicates terran mammalian origin (especially in the upper torso and structure of the forelimb), but other features are unknown among all the recorded exobiological races so far discovered. One cannot deny the possibility that this a phenotype template for the dragonized humanoids referred to in the body of the message. It is known that transmissions from the Cassandry Federation of the JewellBox Nebula have recently ceased, but this is not unusual given that empire's turbulent history. Until more information is incoming, I would strongly recommend any expeditions to the Jewellbox nebula be given armed escort and proceed with caution.

Nilam Levakon for Alan Martin Kazlev
Senior Academician, clade Haeckel
Eden Institute of Xenoscience

I'm not sure where the proper balance point is in all of this. I'm seeking a rock-solid foundation. I do not wish to build on sinking sand...but there will obviously be many false-starts and misunderstandings as I try to find my way...and my voice. I'm tempted to attempt writing about the United States of the Solar System http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...ymoron+threads with a writing style similar to abraxasinas. I realize that I can't come close to accomplishing such a feat...but I can try...can't I? This is new territory for me. I'm ashamed that I don't know more about that which I am espousing...but I'm even more ashamed that very few of us seem to give a rat's patootie about how this Solar System is run.

Have our negotiators been duped over and over again...by essentially demonic entities? I wonder. The 1954 Greada Treaty (if it really exists) was a mistake...wasn't it? But I'm sure we had TOP people...who were on top of everything...and had everything under control...RIGHT? Just like we have TOP people...who have everything under control...at this very moment...RIGHT? Don't get me wrong...I am an overly accomodating and gullible person. I'm the kind of person who hates to swat a fly. I don't wish to harm anyone or anything...even demonic entities. But I don't want various aliens, spirits, whoever, or whatever...enslaving and exterminating us...or making life miserable for all of us. I think we have been lied to and manipulated for thousands (or even millions) of years by various entities and beings. We're not as smart as we think we are...when it comes to dealing with these entities and beings. Again...I wish them no harm. But perhaps my 'where there's life...there's hope' bias is what has gotten us into a lot of trouble for a long, long time. Somehow...we need to deal with this thing here and now...and not let it drag on (dragon -get it?!) for thousands and millions of years into the future. We are kept in the dark about Universal History...and regarding who we really are. Yet...we then get chided for being the 'New Kids on the Block' who need to evolve so we can join all of the superior beings throughout the Universe. I'm sick of this BS. Throughout history...right up to this very day...I am not seeing a reasonable and rational approach to Solar System Governance. I'm seeing 'Divide and Conquer'...'Keep Them Confused and Fighting With Each Other'...and 'Keep Them Ignorant and Stupid'. I'm as mad as hell. I've had enough. And I'm not going to take this anymore. Can you feel the love tonight?

The eschatological paradigms are mostly negative and violent. I envision continuity in perpetuity in Sol. I'm not moving away from this Solar System. This is my home. Sun. Fun. Stay. Play. This is my sand-box...and the playground attendants are poised to expel the bullies from our little paradise. This Solar System is the Theater of the Universe. The implications and ramifications of Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom...in the context of the Constitution of the United States of America and the Bill of Rights...in the context of the United Nations...and applied to the entire Solar System...are enormous. I stand in opposition to the corrupt Powers That Be...both Terrestrial and Extraterrestrial...and demand that the United States of the Solar System be implemented with all deliberate speed...and that a Solar System Exorcism commence immediately. In the words of Moses "Let My People Go!" I perceive that We the People of Earth are Prisoners of War...on a Prison Planet...with Grey Guards...and a Reptilian/Human Hybrid Warden...Taking Orders From a Draconian Reptilian God of This World. This is an intolerable state of affairs...and must not be allowed to stand. I hereby request that the non-corrupt Beings of the Universe assist We the People of Earth for a very brief period of time...as we know it...to implement the reforms outlined throughout this thread devoted to the United States of the Solar System. http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=15878 Thanks and Gratitude in Advance.

I completely and vehemently reject the following Thuban quotation found in ANNO DOMINI DRAGONIA UNO: INTRODUCTION TO DRAGONHOOD http://projectavalon.net/forum/showt...t=18900&page=3 "It is however the great destiny of the humanoids to aspire to Dragonhood, because of their immense emotional energy potential and mental aspirations. The reunification of our Father with our Mother allows our Masterdragons, Who are as One in 26 dimensions to femtotechnically Seed the Omniverse as THEMSELVES and then reproduce THEMSELVES as Universes. Every such universe is a Monosong and a 26-dimensional dyad of a FatherMother. This is our Creative Destiny and the destiny for all dragonised humans aka the starhumans."

THIS IS NOT THE DESTINY OF WE THE PEOPLE OF EARTH. BETTER DEAD THAN REP. OUR DESTINY IS RESPONSIBLE FREEDOM AS A SOVEREIGN HUMANITY.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzw6GiqZyD0&NR=1YouTube- Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNKhIJfB510

OK...what's going on here? I made a slightly shrill (though well intentioned and polite) post a couple of days ago...and abraxasinas has not responded or posted since then. Now...just a few minutes ago...I think I saw my first UFO's in an area where someone had noticed increased military helicopter activity. I saw a slowly moving pinpoint of light suddenly become very bright...and disappear. It didn't look like a meteor at all. Then I saw several faint pinpoints of light...moving erratically in a manner which no conventional fighter jet could match. I thought I saw a couple of faint flashes in this same area of the sky. UFO dogfight? Sometimes ignorance is bliss.

Can someone comment on this? No one seems to really want what I'm proposing. Do you prefer this? Is this the truth...the whole truth...and nothing but the truth? So help us Alpha Draconis? Is it prefabricated BS? Is this what 2012 is all about? Are we destined to be DragonHumans? Are various factions of Reptilians fighting over us...in the same way that rustlers might fight over cattle? Should I hope that the United States of the Solar System will be imposed by a benevolent faction of Reptilians? Is this the only way it might be established. We can't seem to agree on much of anything. We all think we know better than the others...but the others think they know better than us. So how in the hell are we going to rule ourselves...or even agree on a method of ruling ourselves? Will this method of ruling ourselves have to be theocratically imposed by a Reptilian decree? Would this defeat the spirit and letter of Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom?

Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom

[orthodoxymoron]

The following is a re-post. I am enamored with the concept of two key souls...Human and Reptilian...reincarnating together...for thousands of years...into a Hathorian Apostolic Succession of Human Bodies...which I am currently hypothesizing as being young pigmented females. Could this being be the real Black Pope...and the commander of the Black Monks? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok0QDWj52mU This Human/Reptilian Being would hypothetically be at the center of a theological and political cross pollination...and would possibly be responsible for most sacred texts...and many scientific 'discoveries'. Who knows...this being could be the real author of the writings of William Shakespeare, the real architect of Chartres Cathedral...and the instructor of Charles Darwin. If you think I'm crazy...you're right. But still...get off your butt...and research what I just said.

I think there is a thread of truth which runs through the ancient mythologies...stories of gods, goddesses, and pharaohs...the biblical record, channeled and remotely viewed information, regression hypnosis, etc...but that most of it is pure BS. I think there is something very special about abraxasinas. I've never encountered anyone like this. I've never encountered information like this. This isn't just anybody...I don't think. But who knows...it could be an NSA experiment to see how we might react to this sort of thing. This could conceivably be pulled off by an NSA staffer with a Cray Supercomputer. Damned if I know. All of this Galactic Federation and SaLuSa stuff might be Alphabet Agency generated to prepare the public for the genuine ET generated BS which is coming. How do we really know anything for certain? Anybody can make up anything. I have pulled back from my biblical upbringing because of the complexity and contradictions...not to mention the utter absurdities. I desire simple clarity. Remember the Tower of Babel incident? If you can't convince 'em...confuse 'em. Try to reduce concepts to their most simple forms...and keep them simple. Of course...when I have tried to do this...people pay no attention because they think there's nothing special or spooky going on...and that it's too simple. Go figure. I will continue through the entire Thuban thread...because I think it's significant...regardless of the source. It shouldn't be ignored. It could possibly be a huge part of disclosure. Who knows? If you were a Reptilian/Human hybrid with a 500 IQ and total reincarnational recall...and had been the key mediator between the Reptilian and Human races for thousands of years...and had witnessed unmentionable atrocities throughout the centuries...how might you deal with an Avalon Q & A? It would be hard...wouldn't it? I don't think we have any idea what this might be like...but I do think there is a very real possibility that such an individual exists. Could this individual be abraxasinas? I don't know. I will continue to be somewhat neutral...probing and irreverent...but I will give the Thuban thread some careful consideration...and I will attempt to relate it to the other threads I have been struggling with. This is uncharted territory.

Leo Zagami...in his infamous 'prison' speech...said that Amen Ra was his father. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6z7O7UZxipM Amen Ra was both the husband and father of Hathor. In an exorcism of Zagami by Moziah...the entity within Leo...haughtily and laughingly boasted about fooling humanity for thousands and thousands of years. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niFvB...elatedYouTube- This entity was supposedly Lucifer...but could it have been Hathor? Or...are Lucifer and Hathor the same entity? Does 'We Are All One' take on new meaning in this context? Also...watch this 'Lone Gunman' episode...which eerily foretold 9/11...6 months before the event. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26g18Dg7db4 Notice the 'Remote Control Pilot' at 8:00. Is this Hathor? Was Hathor at the controls of the 'planes' and the 'controlled demolitions' on 9/11? I don't know...but I wonder as I wander in and out of insanity.

If you haven't already watched the 'Hathor' episode of Stargate SG-1...it contains some very interesting information...if you listen closely. http://www.hulu.com/watch/62967/stargate-sg-1-hathor Unrelatedly...could abraxasinas be someone we already know? Just thought I'd ask. To me...the main thing is for all of the corruption and violence to be drastically reduced...and finally to be virtually eliminated. I've got no problem with interacting with any and all races...and I don't want even the worst of the worst in the Universe to be hurt or killed...unless this is absolutely necessary...with no other possible alternatives. Separated...for the protection of themselves and others...perhaps. Re-education and restitution...perhaps. Hope springs eternal. My desired Solar System Exorcism is really sort of a Galactic Time-Out. But once again...what do I know? Really...not very much.

Just for the heck of it...start both of these You Tube videos at the same time...but turn off the sound on the first one...and watch it. (Get both set up...and then start them. Do this several times) Consider this in the context of the hellish scene in the first abraxasinas post...with the hellish characters actually in the 'temple'...and the woman as being Hathor (in both the hellish setting and the Stargate video). Notice the gargoyles in the organ video. Do you see what I'm getting at? Was Hathor (or equivalent) the mediator between the Interdimensional Reptilians (God) and the Human Race (Man)? Is Mary really Hathor? Mary is sometimes known as a Co-Mediatrix. Or how about the term 'Theanthropos'? Also...use the sound from the Zagami rant...while watching the first video below. Does this relate to the abraxasinas thread? Damned if I know. But please consider this post carefully and repeatedly. With the forum shutting down...I don't have much time left to beg. Actually...I'm sort of looking forward to the shutdown. It will be a relief.

1. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3A6_blpqpU

2. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fm4kn...eature=related

NIBIRUAN / SUMERIAN GODS = HINDU GODS = GREEK GODS AND SOME VATICAN, BUDDHIST, JEWISH AND SOUTH AMERICAN GODS AS WELL !!!

SEKHMET = DURGA = ARTEMIS = MUT = ATHENA = WHITE JAGUAR LADY = WHITE BUFFALO CALF WOMAN = VAISHNO DEVI

ALCYONE = SATYANARAYANA = APOLLO = PTAH = VISHNU = RAMA
AMUN RA = KRISHNA

ANAT = ERESHKIGAL = KALI = BLACK MADONNA = BLACK TARA

ASTARTE = PARVATI = WHITE TARA = MADONNA = SHEKINAH = UMA = NAMMA
MAIA = SATI = DAKSHAYANI = DAMKINA = GODDESS OF THE MOUNTAINS

ENKI = SHIVA= HOLY SPIRIT = ZEUS = CHAKRASAMVARA = AVALOKITESHWARA = CHENREZIG = LUCIFER = EA = ADONAI = HADAD = BA'AL = RUDRA = KAAL BHAIRAVA

AN = ANU = PARA BRAHMA = YAHVEH = ALLAH

THE GREAT RA = AMEN RA = PRAKASH BRAHMA = HIGHER ASPECT OF YAHVEH = FATHER OF THE GODS

ANSAR = ABZU = ABBA = APSU = KASHYAPA = ADITYA = SURYA = SUN GOD = SHAMASH = DUAS PITA = SATYAVAT MANU = SWAYAMBHU = VYWAMUS
DHARMA DEV = YAMA

INDRA = PAN = VAJRAPANI

GAIA = ADITI = BHU = BHOOMI DEVI = KOUMUDHI = KAMADHENU = NINHURSAG = KI = URAS = EARTH GODDESS

ENLIL = GARBHODAKASAYANI = JEHOVAH

NINLIL = LAKSHMI = GODDESS OF GRAIN

MOON GOD = CHANDRA DEV = NANNA

INANNA = LILITH = SELENE = MOHINI

DUMUZI = ADAMU = ADAM = DAMU

EVE = KHEBA = NINTI

NERGAL = NARAKASURA

TIAMAT = TARAKA

TYPHON = PULOMAN

THOTH = GANESHA = HERMES

MARDUK = MURUGAN = KARTHIKEYA = NIMROD = MARS

HORUS = OSIRIUS = SANAT KUMARA = EROS = DIONYSUS = ANCIENT OF DAYS = TAMMUZ = MIN = KAMDEV = PRADYUMNA

ISIS = MARY = MARIAMMA = KOUMARI = VENUS = APHRODITE = ISHTAR = SEMIRAMIS = HATHOR = MAYAVATI = KANYAKUMARI = TRIPURA SUNDARI = RATI = 16 YEAR OLD GODDESS

JESUS = SANANDA KUMARA

MARY MAGDALENE = LADY NADA

HADES = SHANI = SATAN = WRATHFUL TIBETAN DEITY

7 ARCHANGELS = 7 SAPTARISHIS = COUNCIL OF SEVEN

ATLAS = HIMAVAN = DAKSHA = EL

PLEIONE = MENAKA

APEP = KALASURA

7 PLAIEDES' SISTERS = 7 KRITTIKAS = 7 SAPTA MATRIKAS

PARASURAM = GILGAMESH; NOAH = VIVASVAT MANU; NOAH'S ARC = MALAYAN HILLS.

WILD COW GODDESS = NINSUN = NININSINA = RENUKA

HUMBABA = TRISHANKU = KALMASHAPADA

SARASWATI = SESHAT

HERACLES = HERCULES = ARJUNA

ENOCH = METATRON

HERA = INDRANI

AURORA = USHA

EOS = SAVITA

VARUNA = POSEIDON

MITHRA = ZOROASTRA

TVASTRI = HAPHAESTOS = BUNENE

HOLY GRAIL = AMRITAM = SOMA = LIFE ELIXIR = NECTAR OF IMMORTALITY


THE LIST IS ENDLESS!

THE NIBIRUAN GODS ( NIBIRU = NEBADON = VULCAN = PLANET X = WORMWOOD FROM SIRIUS B ) HAD THEIR BASES EVERYWHERE.

ALL THE RELIGIONS HAVE THE SAME SOURCE !
( BIBLE -> BY-BAL -> BY BA'AL( ENKI))
( QURAN -> QUR-AN / ANU )

MANY OF THE COMPARED CHARACTERS/ INCIDENTS MIGHT HAVE HAPPENED AT ONE PLACE AND THEN IMPLANTED INTO ANOTHER CULTURE FOR THEIR BENEFIT.

SOURCE :
http://www.galacticroundtable.com/fo...ods-hindu-gods

Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom

[mudra]

Originally Posted by Rareheart

ODM

There is only one 'time'...now. Which your consciousness provides...eternally.

I concur with you . Now ... that place of inner silence where all questions cease to exist .

Love from me
mudra

[Céline]

Originally Posted by mudra

I concur with you . Now ... that place of inner silence where all questions cease to exist .

Love from me
mudra

do the answers get louder then?