233,000 hospitalized 900 dead 50 die last 3 days in Ukraine

[Myplanet2]

Fear behaves just like a real virus. It's catching.

There is nothing wrong with letting people know what's going on that they should be aware of. But to jump to unwarranted conclusions which aren't supported in any way, and even embellishing them to make them scarier is simply spreading fear just like a virus.

It's like handing someone an anti viral agent laced with virus. It doesn't make any sense.

[DOMINIC 777]

Not if you confront it ...confronting fear makes you stronger altruistic and compassionate....HAARP will do a great deal of damage when they turn it full on, FLU PANDEMIC is in a stage of being mutated,water ,food medicine is poisoned and polluted ..and Programme Generated LiFE FORMS MANMADE e.t's are real..in prepration for pseudo alien invasion to cause FEAR STATE SO PEOPLE WILL ACCEPT control and domination.....however if you know the invasion is a sham ...there will be no FEAR and how much strronger will we be.This is covert wisdom.

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

Fear behaves just like a real virus. It's catching.

There is nothing wrong with letting people know what's going on that they should be aware of. But to jump to unwarranted conclusions which aren't supported in any way, and even embellishing them to make them scarier is simply spreading fear just like a virus.

It's like handing someone an anti viral agent laced with virus. It doesn't make any sense.

[Echo6]

Personally, I have seen enough evidence to support the idea that something out of the ordinary has been happening in the Ukraine for at least 3-4 months. The exact scale and nature is still open to debate.

[timetotelltheworld]

You can debate all you want. These reports are coming from the ukrainian ministry of health, so debunk , discredit and ignore the truth , maybe it will go away. I think NOT.

They simply don't want you to know they are here, it spoils they're plans. But they're plans for us are evil. And they need to go not us.


And not one western wire service is carrying all these reports coming out of all these countries, come on give me a break, how is that possible,same answer,we are being kidnapped and replaced.

Originally Posted by Echo6

Personally, I have seen enough evidence to support the idea that something out of the ordinary has been happening in the Ukraine for at least 3-4 months. The exact scale and nature is still open to debate.

[burgundia]

Timmy...i think I will send you an invitation to come to Poland...Ukraine is not that far away...so you can go there and check with your own eyes...maybe you'll feel calmer...at least you'll be at a distance from FEMA camps.

[timetotelltheworld]

Dont have to come to poland all i have to do is look at the report from the ministry of ukraine and all these other places.....latest thing in my life they don't want me getting my mail.

this is from yahoo



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Originally Posted by burgundia

Timmy...i think I will send you an invitation to come to Poland...Ukraine is not that far away...so you can go there and check with your own eyes...maybe you'll feel calmer...at least you'll be at a distance from FEMA camps.

[timetotelltheworld]

if anyone recieves an email like this one IGNORE IT IT IS NOT ME AND JUST ONE MORE EXAMPLE OF HOW IM BEING MESSED WITH


I DID NOT SEND THIS EMAIL THIS IS NOT ME AND DAMN THEM THEY JUST CUT OFF MY EMAIL ACCOUNT AND NOW THIS

THEY ALREADY MURDERED ALL MY REALITIVES AND THIS IS JUST AN EXAMPLE OF THE NIGHT MARE I LIVE

DO NOT RESPOND TO ANYONE OVER SEAS ASKING FOR MONEY NOT MY STYLE

AND ITS A LIE

no what the **** i didnt send that its a lie dont do it


Quote:
Originally Posted by eleni
saying you are in London and asking for money?

This is it.......

eleni Hello,
This has had to come in a hurry and it has left me in a devastating state.I am in some terrible situation and I'm really going to need your urgent help. Yesterday, unannounced, I came down to the United Kingdom for something urgent. Well we actually got robbed in the Hotel I booked in and they made away with my wallet (which included my cash, diaries and credit cards). My cellphones were not brought along since I did not get to roam them before coming over. The phone cables have been burnt including the Hotel's database has been compromised as well. So all I can do now is pay cash and get out of here quickly. I do not want to make a scene of this which is why I did not call the office or my house, this is embarrassing enough. Please I want you to lend me a sum of 2,050 Pounds, just to clear my Hotel bills and get the next plane home. Kindly help me send the Money via Western Union Money Transfer
Below are the Details to transfer the money

NAME- kevin Rush
ADDRESS- 103 Harley Street
CITY- LONDON

[timetotelltheworld]

I think a better choice is to trust the Ukrainian Ministry of health rather then someone who has been trying to discredit and debunk my threads for the last year..

PS you might not realize it but people are waking up

sorry to disapoint but these reports are very true and the more people see it the more they will know the truth...

AND PROJECT AVALON IS NOW SUBSCRIPTION FREE so tell your friends tell everyone to get on here.....tell the world its time.....way past time

Originally Posted by burgundia

Timmy...i think I will send you an invitation to come to Poland...Ukraine is not that far away...so you can go there and check with your own eyes...maybe you'll feel calmer...at least you'll be at a distance from FEMA camps.

[Echo6]

Originally Posted by timetotelltheworld

You can debate all you want. These reports are coming from the ukrainian ministry of health, so debunk , discredit and ignore the truth , maybe it will go away. I think NOT.

They simply don't want you to know they are here, it spoils they're plans. But they're plans for us are evil. And they need to go not us.


And not one western wire service is carrying all these reports coming out of all these countries, come on give me a break, how is that possible,same answer,we are being kidnapped and replaced.

Go back and read what I actually wrote. My comment was in regard to the events in the Ukraine only. I made no mention of aliens, Extra or Ultra. (both of which I have first hand experience of.) I'm not debunking, discrediting or ignoring anything.

Western mainstream media will never run any kind of story like that, whether there are aliens taking over the media staff or not.

BTW, those emails asking for money have been going around for a while. I know of several people who have been affected by them. Not just you.

And no, I'm not trying to start an argument with you here either.

[zaina]

kevin ,I just found out from a friend that where he works a fire chief has asked why is it not being put on main stream news what is going on in the ukraine ,people dying etc
so what you are saying has been confirmed to me ,

[timetotelltheworld]

Give it time, the doctors and nurses are dieing too.
They just don't want you to know they are here, they shouldn't have murdered my family, they should have left me alone, they shouldn't have bragged about they're infrastructure and agenda, quit never, sorry people everywhere are wakeing up, sorry if they are waking up early, because the mass awakening they have planned for us. Is at 4 am when you get dragged off to a FEMA death camp near you.

Think possitive these aliens all used to say to me, now I say , think positive and hope and pray all this information doesn't get everywhere, my guess is that humans are waking up a little early and these triple helix buggers will be put into the same deathcamps they built for us.

Originally Posted by AscendingStarseed

Ok Totellthetruth, if only 882 have died out of well over 200,000 hospitalizations that isn't a terribly high number of deaths proportionately. I really think it's important to have faith that humanity has allies and that the forces of good will succeed, if that weren't true this mutated plague would've spread much further by now. It had the whole month of October to spread to the rest of the world before they shut the borders down in the Ukraine, I had expected this thing to spread much further by now...thankfully it hasn't appeared to.

Vaccine shipments disappeared and all kinds of things have happened to slow down the spread of the virus, so that they finally called off the swine flu fake pandemic.

So get proactive instead of choosing fear which lowers your vibration and immune system. Chose to "visualize" the virus losing strength and dying off in the population, also boost your immune system with the right supplements to fight of any pathogens you might encounter.

Just as there are bad aliens out there causing problems, there are also good aliens who are much more powerful, far greater in number and who also have the power of God on their side....hmmmm, who do you think will win? I personally have all the faith in the world that we are well represented in Heaven and that our side will win.

So chill-out and quit

Fear only breeds more fear...and spreading it is bad for your karma

[timetotelltheworld]

They don't want you to know they're plan
http://www.recombinomics.com/News/12...Dien_Bien.html

H5N1 H1N1 Cluster in Dien Bien Vietnam
Recombinomics Commentary 03:52
December 10, 2009

More and anxiety on the basis of when Dr. Nguyen Tran Hien, Director of Institute of Hygiene and Epidemiology PRIVATE announce the result of epidemiological investigations deaths due to bird flu recently in Dien Bien. Male patients age 23 in the city of Dien Bien death from respiratory failure due to severe viral pneumonia was confirmed by test results: The patient died from H5N1.

When investigating the epidemiology of close contact with patients, medical experts are concerned when they discovered the children of influenza A/H1N1 infected patients. Meanwhile, the Forum chickens living in the cousin has test results positive for H5N1 virus.

The above translation suggests a family in Dien Bien, Vietnam has tested positive for H5N1 and H1N1.* Poultry belonging to the family has also tested positive for H5N1.

Vietnam represents a hot zone where H1N1 and H5N1 are co-circulating.* H1N1 is very promiscuous and has been isolated from a variety of mammalian species as well as turkeys.* Thus, Vietnam would offer an environment for co-infections in a wide range of host including human.

[timetotelltheworld]

They don't want you to know they're plan

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/01...88N_Hunan.html

Fatal H1N1 RBD Change S188N in Hunan China?
Recombinomics Commentary 15:39
January 3, 2010


November 21 evening 7:30 Xiu Zhang boy was admitted to hospital in Shaoyang city, the hospital in critical condition on the next notice, right chapter Xiu oxygen, infusion, and ECG. "7:30 admitted to hospital after my son and I have been chatting, chat to 10:30, when he suddenly froth at the mouth, unconscious."

"People from normal to death is only about half an hour." Lijun Ze said the son died suddenly so suddenly, the hospital 23:30 began to organize rescue, It was found that Xiu Zhang digestive tract, lungs or brain hemorrhage, the body appears black spots, had no blood pressure, no heartbeat, "the time to save a child is already dead."

He died a hospital at 4:45 on the 22nd Xiu Zhang declared dead. Shaoyang City CDC blood samples confirmed as Influenza A H1N1 influenza testing. Family belongs to at 10 o'clock on the 23rd to see the hospital medical records issued reads, "preliminary diagnosis" is "influenza, encephalitis, pulmonary hemorrhage, and a stream."

The above translation describes the rapid death of a 10 year old boy in Shaoyang city in Hunan, China.* Recent media reports have warned of the rapid spread of H1N1 in the Chinese countryside and three HA sequences from Hunan were just released at Genbank by the Changsha CDC, which is slightly northeast of Shaoyang city.* The three Hunan sequences (A/Hunan Changsha/SWL4346/2009, A/Hunan Furong/SWL4224/2009, A/Hunan Kaifu/SWL4142/2009) were collected in late November from sections of Changsha city (see map) and each was distinct.* The Furong sequence has closely related to a series of sequences recently released from Changdu, to the west of Hunan, but the other two sequences were unique.*

The Kaifu sequence was collected on the date of hospital admission for the above patient, who may have been the source.* It has a number of non-synonymous changes, including a receptor binding domain change S188N, which is also present in a number of isolates from the United States (primarily Texas, but also New York - see list here), as well as Mongolia, Japan, and Spain.

The co-circulation of multiple H1N1 sequences in a small region in Changsha is cause for concern.* A full set of sequences and more information on patients associated with these sequences would be useful.

[timetotelltheworld]

They don't want you to know they're plan

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/12...5G_Russia.html

Live feed of underlying pandemic map data here
Commentary
H1N1 D225G in Lungs of Patients Across Russia
Recombinomics Commentary 21:28
December 31, 2009

Vector labs in Novosibursk, Russia has submitted a full set of sequences from lung isolates from patients at three distinct locations in Russia (A/Salekhard/01/2009, A/Tomsk/07/2009, A/Abakan/02/2009).* Although each isolate represents a seperate H1N1 genetic background, all three have D225G.* Since all three isolates came from lung, it is likely that the three infections were fatal, or at least severe, which extends the linkage of D225G with severe or fatal H1N1 cases.* These are the first public HA sequences from Russia with D225G and raise concerns that the establishment of the polymorphism, and/or the related associated polymorphism D225N raises concerns of a new pandemic wave that is markedly more severe that prior pandemic H1N1 waves.

Recent comments by ECDC on the WHO working hypothesis that these changes were due to random mutations generated by uncorrected copy errors and that H1N1 with these changes do no transmit, are not consistent with public data.* In Ukraine, six of six fatal cases have D225G or D225N.* Since these markers are only reported in about 1% of pandemic H1N1 HA sequences, the chances of these markers randomly appearing in 6 of 6 fatal cases is in the trillion to one range.* Similarly, several recently released sequences have both D225G and D225N, including two samples in San Luis Potosi that were collected within one day of each, again creating an event that would require two independent changes at adjacent codon positions for residue 225 in two individuals in the same location at the same time.* The likelihood of these two sets of changes happening independently, when only four samples in the Genbank and GISAID database have both changes, so also extremely unlikely, once again raising serious questions about the scientific basis for the WHO position that these changes are independently generated and are copy errors.* The only data in support of this hypothesis is an attribution to WHO in the ECDC report, which has no scientific basis.

The movement of D225G from one H1N1 genetic background is consistent with homologous recombination, and the clustering in western Ukraine, Sao Paulo, or San Luis Potosi is consistent with transmission.* These developments continue to raise concerns that H1N1 with these receptor binding domain changes will emerge in the next wave.*

Today's report from Ukraine has 29 more fatalities in the past 24 hours, raising the increase in the past 4 days to 94 fatalities.* The report of D225G in lung patients from three different regions in Russia on three different genetic backgrounds increases concerns of an emerging lethal pandemic H1N1, WHO proclamations notwithstanding

[timetotelltheworld]

They don't want you to know they're plan

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/12...uster_Mex.html


Live feed of underlying pandemic map data here
Commentary
D225G / D225N H1N1 Fatal Cluster in San Lois Potosi Mexico
Recombinomics Commentary 23:54
December 24, 2009

The recently released HA sequences from fatal cases in Mexico has identified a cluster(25M and 40M) with D225G and D225N.* Both isolates, A/Mexico/InDRE50625/2009 and A/Mexico/InDRE50617/2009) have mixed signals and were collected within a day of each other from San Lois Potosi, Mexico.* They are the first two isolates from patients in Mexico with both receptor binding domain changes, D225G and D225N, although the same combination was found in a swine sequence, A/swine/4/Mexico/2009, from an outbreak in the adjacent province of Queretaro in April.* The only other reported human sequence with D225G and D225N was from a fatal case in Utah, A/Utah/42/2009, who died July 28.

Concern about the association of receptor binding domain changes D225G and D225N began to emerge when sequences from cases in Brazil were released.* Two Sao Paulo sequences had D225G and both were from fatal cases.* Two more Sao Paulo sequences had D225N and both cases were also fatal.* Moreover, D225G was also found in fatal cases from 1918 and 1919, and the sequence change led to receptor binding changes that targeted receptor with gal 2,3 linkages, such as cells in the lung.

Reports of large number of fatal lung cases in Ukraine led to predictions that receptor binding domain changes at position 225 would be found.* The prediction was confirmed when Mill Hill released sequences from nine patients in western Ukraine.* Five HA sequences from survivors had no receptor binding domain changes, while all four fatal cases had D225G.* Subsequently the CDC released five HA sequence.* Three matched the demographics and sample number for the Mill Hill survivors.* The other two were unique and were likely fatal cases.* Both of these cases had D225N.

The data from Ukraine led other countries to look more closely at sequences from past cases.* In Norway, 3 sequences were identified.* Two were fatal and one severe.* In France there were two cases and both were fatal, including one that also had H274Y.* Similarly, a case from Illinois also had D225G and H274Y.

However, a fatal case from Utah had mixed signals for both D225G and D225N.* This combination was then found in a swine isolated from Queretaro, Mexico and two fatal cases in the adjacent province, San Luis Potosi also had the same combination.* In all cases the same mixed signals were found at the adjacent positions, strongly suggesting that these sequences were transmitting.* This transmission was further supported by collection dates, which were one day apart.

Transmission of these sequences was also supported by cluster in western Ukraine.* The sequences with D225G or D225N were collected from the same general area in Ukraine at the same time.* The initial spike in cases in Ukraine was followed by school closings and warmer weather.* Cases declined but recently began to surge again as the weather cooled and school re-opened.* There were 20 deaths reported in the past 24 hours, raising concerns of another spike in fatalities (see map).

These data continue to support the linkage between D225G and D225N.* Three more recent cases with these changes (one with D225G and two with D225N) were identified in Mexico, and all three were fatal (and the changes were present as mixtures with wild type).* These ratios may vary by tissue type and isolation procedure and the increasing detection may signal changes in circulating virus.

More details and collections from affected organs in severe and fatal cases would be useful.

[timetotelltheworld]

Let the debunking and discrediting begin. Yes they want you to turn the other cheek, they want you to do nothing, ignore it, hope that it will go away. They want you to pray and trust Jesus, they want you to say look it's the end times, it was fortold to us by our profits, our profits Daniel and ezekial except the book of enoch lists them as fallen angels.

Take my information and put it everywhere, they don't want you to know they are here, they don't want people to know the truth, disclosure scares these buggers, they are parasites sucking off of us, enjoying our misery which they are creating and covering up.

The reason 230,000+ people are now dieing In the Ukraine and your not reading about it in mainstream news is because they already control the media.

4,000,000 people infected it's only a few weeks before they're mass awakening, it's only a few weeks before everything starts to fall apart, the slaughter has begun and it's a con.

They don't want you to know the truth, go review all my threads look how they line up to discredit and debunk.

In my previous threads I have told how to tell th from us.

When they couldn't debunk they would critisize
my grammer and spelling. Most of what I'm writing is done on an iPod and hard to make corrections, and all of what I have written is the truth.

They are extremily manipulative, passive agressive and they always always give themselves away when they discredit and debunk, and I hope your seeing it now, because a year ago I said my story effects all of us and now with millions of people with the new strain of this labratory made mutant strain, the infrastructure in place, maybe now you will listen to your hearts ,and not be manipulated by these lieing conning manipulating decieving evil creatures, maybe now you will see it's real because I have seen them shapeshift more then once, I can always tell them from us, and I hate them more then you can possibly imagine.

This started to be a story about a conspiracy the CIA was doing using extra terrestrials and in the process I found out everything else.

And what I found out is that we are being kidnapped and replaced.
I found out they are setting up armageddon to get rid of us.
I found out a lot from them I found out the truth.

Take a look at say one person on this thread debunking then go to my other threads look for they're posts see how they debunk and discredit anywhere they can.

Then maybe you will get it, or look at that updated report from the Ukrainian ministry of health and I ask you once again, how is it possible not one western news service Is covering it.

Then maybe you will realize all that I told is the truth. And we the human race is being conned into non-existance.

Yes, take my story and all of this and put it up everywhere.

Originally Posted by Myplanet2

Perhaps it would help to find out what Reality actually is? I think it's pretty safe to say it's not something that can be posted on a forum.

People post their opinions, observations, conclusions, assumptions, speculations, fears, rumours, unfiltered disinfo, and you call it reality?

Tell me how you arrived at the "conclusion" that what was seen in Norway was connected to weather anomalies? What fried brains? What annihilated countries? Do you have evidence of a mutated flu in Ukraine? Is there even any evidence of an unusual number of deaths that are even flu related in the Ukraine?

Reality isn't what you've been TOLD it is.

lol
MP2

[Phtha]

Perhaps someone should inform these alien phantoms as to what 'here' really is, wherefore they might rethink their plan.

Originally Posted by timetotelltheworld

Answer it's an alien race replaceing us and they control the media.

[timetotelltheworld]

LETS NOT FOR GET THE STATISTICS THEY SPEAK FOR THEM SELVES



update

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/01...raine_940.html

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Live feed of underlying pandemic map data here
Commentary

Ukraine Fatalities Jump to 940 - Over 4 Million Infected
Recombinomics Commentary 13:20
January 12, 2010


4,106,091 Influenza/ARI

242,246 Hospitalized

940 Dead

The above tally is the latest from the Ukraine Ministry of Health website. The number dead has increased by 22 in the past 24 h and 42 in the past 48 h, which is close to one death per hour, even though the number of cases per day has decline so only 5 of the 27 regions remain above the epidemic threshold. In the past 2 days there were 7 deaths recorded for Kyiv and 6 for Donetsk, which now has 134 deaths (see map).

The high rate of fatalities is of concern because of the high frequency of fatal cases with receptor binding domain changes. Although several countries have a case fatality rate for H1N1 patients with D225G/N, in Ukraine all 8 sequences from fatal cases have D225G, D225N, or both.

Moreover, similar changes are being reported for adjacent regions in Russia and Moldova, and spikes in fatalities are also being reported in countries in the region, including a cluster in Romainia

Ukraine is being careful watched because of concerns that the sub-clade with these receptor binding domain changes will became more common, leading to a higher rate of severe and fatal cases. Recent sequences from the Kyiv area had both D225G and D225N, which corresponds to the spread of fatal H1N1 cases.



update

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/01...mania_CFR.html

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Commentary

Spike in H1N1 Fatalities in Romania Raises Concerns
Recombinomics Commentary 23:15
January 14, 2010


Secretary of State Adrian Streinu-Cercel said the fatality rate in influenza A/H1N1 virus in the last six weeks increased from 0.1% to 1.32%.

The above comments reflect a dramatic rise in the number of deaths in the past six week in Romania. The above rate is likely linked to lab confirmed cases and over-represents the true fatality rate, but the dramatic rise is likely linked to the spread of D225G. Six weeks ago samples were sent to Mill Hill, which has likely confirmed D225G. The increase in activity in November was near the Ukraine border, and mutations like those in Ukraine have been cited in media reports. Recent reports also described a cluster of severed cases that involved hospitalization of three from the cluster, followed by the death of two (42F and 21M). These fatalities led to a run on vaccine in Olt County.

These media reports provide further support for the spread of D225G/N. Sequences from Ukraine, Moldova, and Russia with D225G/N have been made public and all appear to be from fatal cases. The sequences are from the same clade, adding addition support for the transmission of these receptor binding domain changes at position 225.

These data do not support the WHO working hypothesis that D225G and D225N are due to independent random mutations. The low frequency of D225G/N in public sequences places the changes of 8 of 8 fatal cases with D225G/N in Ukraine at a trillion to one, and the recent results significantly raise those odds because all of the recently released sequences from fatal cases in Russia also have these changes.

The spread of these sequences raise concerns that these changes will be present at higher frequencies in the next wave of infections. Mill Hill assigned a "low reactor" characterization of a Ukraine isolate, and the sequences had D225G as the only non-synonymous HA change, raise concern for selection of these changes.

Release of sequences from Romania would be useful.

Originally Posted by Phtha

Perhaps someone should inform these alien phantoms as to what 'here' really is, wherefore they might rethink their plan.