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Old 09-26-2008, 01:22 AM   #51
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I'll start by saying that although I do believe in ET's, I disbelieve 95% of the stuff that's floating around out there concerning our otherworldy companions, most of this information is either rehashed or seems to have no real foundation whatsoever, so in this case I guess you could say I'mma tough sell.

I wasn't sold with this interview either, before I lay out the reasons why, I just want to say quickly that I don't mean to stir any angry emotions in anyone here, I'm just giving my personal opinion. I respect anyone elses opinions and I also respect Mariam. Now, onto the reasons:

Mariam started off with excuses about how she doesn't want to be doing this disclosure so to speak.
A genuine messenger would not care what others believed because if they know, in their heart of hearts, that they're speaking the truth. Whats to fear? A person who is truly “spiritual” for lack of a better term, and who's speaking 100% truth would have no quams about how others would judge them. Especially if the message was of great importance.


On an emotional level, I just didn't get any feelings of genuine compassion from the speaker. Infact I picked up a lot of arrogant undertones due to many statements such as “no one is perfect, not even myself”, or “even I have problems with this stuff”. These type of statements tend to suggest she raises herself above “normal” people. Having a high opinion of oneself is important, but should never be based on comparison of others.


Finaly, nothing new was said that can't be found somewhere on the internet or in books. Nothing truly genuine. Of course this does not mean that she is not being honest, it's just a fact.

Despite this I do think Mariam is a great person at the end of the day, she had a positive message, aside from the scary nazi blonde hair blue eye resonance as others picked up on, and she does not mean to portray any truly menevolent harm that I detected.

I think the best lesson to be learned from all of these interviews, is we should never take anyones word or views as absolute truth. That's something we must experience on a personal level.

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Old 09-26-2008, 01:31 AM   #52
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I too have grown uncomfortable with all this destruction talk.

Positivity and calm are key...planning the end can create it.

We are energy and have nothing to fear.

If I fall into the pacific, I will endure, and so will you. Its the illusion of endpoints that have created this cloud of fear that directs things to the negative reality.

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Old 09-26-2008, 01:32 AM   #53
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I second those who felt put off by her vibe. I could not get through the whole interview in one go because of it, and I found her constant self-referencing ('Even I find all this just so fascinating' and the like, said over and over) very distancing. The interview seemed to be mostly about her own reaction to her own story, and she came across to me as someone very much in love with the idea of 'being a messenger'. I would really like to see some Reverse Speech analysis of the interview, to find out if she is 'congruent' both ways.

I have heard her interviewed once before-- Alfred Webre had her on his Exopolitics radio program last season-- and she said nothing new this time around. She is also a day late and a dollar short when it comes to the whole non-hybridized seeds issue. Horticulturalists around the world have been concerned about this for tens of years, and the heirloom seed folks have been breeding, collecting and trading for a good 20 years-- they have several sites/groups on the Internet and are easy to find. I know this because in the course of my job at the public library, I have helped people to find sources of heirloom seeds well in advance of Ms. Delicado touting their importance.

I also second ClarkKent's 'conveniently-Nordic-aliens/Nazi-master-race stereotype' musings. He's definitely got a point, and frankly, I am fed up with the whole simpleton mythology that says little gray beings from (maybe) Zeta Reticuli are inherently evil while the blond, blue-eyed, white-skinned, muscle-bound Plejaran studmuffins with recycled biblical/Egyptian names are the (conveniently human-looking and racially pure) good guys. If there is anything worthy of immediate careful scrutiny amidst the mountain of stuff that has been said about Skypeople, this particular viewpoint is the front-runner.

Because I did not download the video (I just went for the audio since folks were having download problems), I cannot speak to the 'sanpaku eyes' issue, but if she is showing them (and it is not simply an artifact of camera angle) it is important, and not in a good way.

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Old 09-26-2008, 01:35 AM   #54
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also to make a clear point--im not saying germans=nazi's
i dont know how anyone could get that from what ive posted.

i just find it INTERESTING that these blondies seem to contact people of germanic/teutonic descent.

and i certainly dont fear "nordic blondes" im just saying we all have access to a LOT of info, and these are the dots that im connecting regarding nordics-greys-nazis-illuminati-timelines-future selves-disasters etc.

i didnt see anyone else bringing up these points so i thought i would. and still i havent heard a decent theory to knock mine, i would WELCOME it, because if something made sense to me that refutes or answers these seeming coincidences that would be comforting.

even bill who im sure is more aware than most of us in this field said my questions were hard for him to answer, but id love to hear his 2 cents!


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Old 09-26-2008, 01:36 AM   #55
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I am having vibrations or feeling that there is something weird about this interview, not sure what it is but i left it feeling, for lack of a better term "weird" and drained of energy.

Anyone else? Is there something subliminal?
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Old 09-26-2008, 01:37 AM   #56
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Old 09-26-2008, 01:42 AM   #57
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I think this lady's story is valid and sincere. In my evaluation when she truly recognizes her personal power she will then know that no one needs saving or saviors. And when she recognizes that it is all her...nothing is outside of her, she may just write another book.

There are infinite possibilities and/or probabilities for me to choose from. Miriam's prediction info may just be stuff from 1988. The energies have changed a lot since then. I already know in "My Universe" what planet Earth I am on for this time of great change......and it is a pretty nice place.

What I'd really like to do is interview Kerry. I am sure there is a great story there.

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Old 09-26-2008, 01:45 AM   #58
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I just finished watching this vid... The message she was 'given' resonated with me greatly... I was given a large flood of information almost identical to her's in 1991, although, I didn't receive it on board a space craft. My experience was more telepathic in nature and happened in my livingroom .. I've heard all the stories about the tall Nordics and their collusion with the greys etc... In my remembrance, I've never seen or communicated with a tall blond. When she talked about families being monitored for many generations (forever?) it gave me a cold chill... I'm a life long abductee and so are my kids and their kids...

This whole thing need to be re-evaluated... speaking for my own personal experiences...
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Old 09-26-2008, 01:46 AM   #59
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Hey All,

Just finished watching the interview and my thoughts kind of kept going back to ... believe it not ... David Wilcock. I think it was in the Futuretalk video (where DW was wearing that gold sash or whatever) he mentioned that Project Camelot seems to draw a lot of negative energy (through no fault of their own) in the interviews they conduct.

Don't get me wrong--this was an excellent and professionally conducted interview, but I was forced to walk away with that doom and gloom vibration which just doesn't augur too well with me anymore. I absolutely believe people like George Green and Miriam Delicado or Alex Jones believe the things they uncover, but the idea of this "world calamity ... we're all going to be burnt alive in an agonizing Armageddon" just doesn't feel right. (I would HIGHLY RECCOMMEND watching the channeled messages of a British lady named 'MagentaPixie2012' on youtube).

Project Camelot should actually take this as a compliment because it means whatever higher beings are manipulating cosmic consciousness are purposefully targeting Bill and Kerry in order to make their audience (which is growing by leaps and bounds pretty much daily) to: LIVE IN FEAR.

And if I may be so bold as to say: THE ALIENS THEMSELVES MIGHT BE WRONG. So what if some Nordic ET from a far-off place in the Milky Way "sees" world calamity (?) ... ... for all we know ... Sven from Nordic-ville might be wrong himself. The take-home message from Ra and the Collective Entity of 9 Winged Beings which have been channeling through MagentaPixie, plus the newest Burish testimony all point to the hopless Armageddon scenario timeline hovering near a probability of zero. And I think I orient myself toward these messages.
I understand you completly and realized some people have "********" stories to try and make people move, this i do NOT agree with and even more so i dislike greatly when someone uses Bill and Kerrys platform to spread doom and gloom. We have seen it enough and think we understand something is coming in the future, i see alot of people from wide aspects to narrow minded but i have a feeling if we ALL were together it would be magical.

I would love to meet many people on this forum and all of us sit back and talk (imagine that hahaha!) we would have so much information and experince to share with each other... What it comes down to is who will fight each other? Will an Objectivist battle a Lightseeker just to fofill his Philosophy? I know i sure wouldnt if we all could get along.

Harmony is over used within the fields we speak, we simply need to leave doom gloom and even harmony for they are just words to spark us, what is real is when we all stand together for the better cause of us all.

Alex Jones is a percfect example of someone helping the wrong way... yes he has some good information and ideas but his attitude is much to... raging. Lets just all be pals and stick together.

Id catch you a fish anyday
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Old 09-26-2008, 01:48 AM   #60
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I'll happily withdraw my erroneous point and offer apology.

I pasted the basic info from wiki because there it says UK has most reported
Nordic contact although it is more of a European than US phenomonon.

The article also states which I have read elsewhere that the other side of the coin might be true in that the greys control/create the Nordics.

Personally I ignore contactee info as I find it distracting. You either believe the person or you don't.

I'm convinced UFO's exist but I'm not convinced that about all the contact/channelling claims.

I might be wrong but I think ST Clair said he was Celtic in origin in an earlier Camelot thread which was wiped.

As I said earlier I agree that I don't like caucasian alien stuff and the people that claim it aren't going to change the world as far as I'm concerned.

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I just finished watching this vid... The message she was 'given' resonated with me greatly... I was given a large flood of information almost identical to her's in 1991, although, I didn't receive it on board a space craft. My experience was more telepathic in nature and happened in my livingroom .. I've heard all the stories about the tall Nordics and their collusion with the greys etc... In my remembrance, I've never seen or communicated with a tall blond. When she talked about families being monitored for many generations (forever?) it gave me a cold chill... I'm a life long abductee and so are my kids and their kids...

This whole thing need to be re-evaluated... speaking for my own personal experiences...
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I'll happily withdraw my erroneous point and offer apology.

I pasted the basic info from wiki because there it says UK has most reported
Nordic contact although it is more of a European than US phenomonon.

The article also states which I have read elsewhere that the other side of the coin might be true in that the greys control/create the Nordics.

Personally I ignore contactee info as I find it distracting. You either believe the person or you don't.

I'm convinced UFO's exist but I'm not convinced that about all the contact/channelling claims.

I might be wrong but I think ST Clair said he was Celtic in origin in an earlier Camelot thread which was wiped.

As I said earlier I agree that I don't like caucasian alien stuff and the people that claim it aren't going to change the world as far as I'm concerned.

Cheers, Chris.
I love how many opinions this forum allows me to view because my friend you are 100% correct about

"""As I said earlier I agree that I don't like caucasian alien stuff and the people that claim it aren't going to change the world as far as I'm concerned."""

Humanity needs to band together and even me have seen this but i always live here and now and choose to use Philosophy before any contactee story.

Humanity needs to stand up for itself and i fear some are to far off within the realm of UFOS and waiting for "October 14th", we need to do it ourselfs and the more time we waste the less time we have to make an impact.

Cheers my friend!
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I think this lady's story is valid and sincere. In my evaluation when she truly recognizes her personal power she will then know that no one needs saving or saviors. And when she recognizes that it is all her...nothing is outside of her, she may just write another book.

There are infinite possibilities and/or probabilities for me to choose from. Miriam's prediction info may just be stuff from 1988. The energies have changed a lot since then. I already know in "My Universe" what planet Earth I am on for this time of great change......and it is a pretty nice place.

What I'd really like to do is interview Kerry. I am sure there is a great story there.

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We do need to interview Kerry!! Id love to see Bill interview Kerry on her life and story, it never crossed my mind oddly...

I will leave the spamming back a bit now as i have had my say enjoy your day my friend!
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Old 09-26-2008, 01:57 AM   #64
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I totally agree with clark kent.

Your theory completely fits all the provable plans for a genetically engineered future human. Perhaps, in the future, today's elite will be seen as great thinkers and leaders, who secured the earth for the sustainable population.
The illuminated few who had the foresight to kill-off the planet and keep a genetically superior human (future elite), assisted by the slaves (future us). That makes the most sense.

I would add clark, that maybe the result of all the manipulation will actually remove the collective "soul" of the human race. So technically, this future race is not human at all.

When things reach a perceived "critical" point, I think the collective human soul will just simply move on, to another reality, perhaps where we all make up a giant human, who lives in a world of singular giant beings...one giant cat, one giant bird, etc...

and all that are left are human "replicas"
and perhaps this is the ultimate answer to us being considered "containers"
And this would explain the cold hearted nature of alot of their activity.

I also have this feeling that our souls are the thing that keeps us from being able to time travel...it locks us in a dimension, until it "dies", then it shifts to another...like a music scale.

hmm?
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I must disagree with a lot of you people here saying that Miriam is trying to spread a message of doom and gloom or of fear or that he story is incencere.
Yes, I also had a hard time with her in the first few minutes of the interview and yes she is not perfect and she might not speak so well as others and obviously she has had a hard and strange life and she is as we say - just human.
She does have a very strong eyes and she seems to me like a very old and strong being - sometimes hard to take! but with pure and good intentions imo!

I dont think one must take this interview "word by word" and
when one takes this interview and peel the "shell" off , the core that is being revealed is , in my opinion, absolutely a strong , important message (of good!)
I was pretty overwhelmed by her words towards the end and also when we talked about the gathering of similiar people!

as for the whole nordic & grays thing - it mght be important but is that what really matters right now?

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Old 09-26-2008, 02:06 AM   #66
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I am just going to say this. I didn't finish the interview the vibes she was sending out seemed weird...Anyways on a different note I agree with ya Clark i find it funny how the nordics seem to appear to german descent etc. But there are other contactees like Carlos Diaz here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pq3n6...eature=related Idk but he might be german descent >_> what do you guys think?

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I must disagree with a lot of you people here saying that Miriam is trying to spread a message of doom and gloom or of fear or that he story is incencere.
Yes, I also had a hard time with her in the first few minutes of the interview and yes she is not perfect and obviously she has had a hard and strange life and she is as we say - just human.
She does have a very strong eyes and she seems to me like a very old and strong being - sometimes hard to take! but with pure and good intentions imo!

I dont think one must take this interview "word by word" and
when one takes this interview and peel the "shell" off , the core that is being revealed is , in my opinion, absolutely a strong , important message (of good!)
I was pretty overwhelmed by her words towards the end and also when we talked about the gathering of similiar people!

as for the whole nordic & grays thing - it mght be important but is that what really matters right now?
It matters because if they are negative, they could be creating a mentality in us that creates the worst scenario...I think we are creating all these events with belief and expectation...and who better to manipulate but the most intuitive of the bunch.
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It matters because if they are negative, they could be creating a mentality in us that creates the worst scenario...I think we are creating all these events with belief and expectation...and who better to manipulate but the most intuitive of the bunch.
and its up to us to believe and excpect a positive outcome even though!
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Clark Kent: I do share your concern with the Nordic ET contact. However, I do tend to believe that these “Nordics” could be our creators and may think they are our masters (benevolent or not) because they created us; they may have terra formed Earth as well. It is possible that they had a plan for us to follow, and we are not following that plan. When they ignited the spark of life into our biological bodies perhaps they did not know exactly what they had created/co-created, a life form that would have connections to the “Creator” of all that is? and this "Creator" may have other plans for us? Just a thought of mine because it tends to fit with the stories of the Annuaki/War of the Gods story. I do believe Miriam is genuine and can only relate to us what she has been told.
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I am having vibrations or feeling that there is something weird about this interview, not sure what it is but i left it feeling, for lack of a better term "weird" and drained of energy.

Anyone else? Is there something subliminal?
interesting that you say that.....I've been feeling weirdly tired and sleepy all day today also, after watching this interview in the morning.

I completely agree with clarkkent also.

granted, I've never been into ufos or aliens too much, and haven't done much research into the subject. but almost every prominent/known contactee I've seen and heard about so far are all white people of european descent. some hispanic contactees from south america, yes. but the whole of the ufo/alien/extraterrestral community seems to be whitewashed. (just like the main whole of the political and business worlds are, lol--just a bunch of old, white, straight men, frequently with racist, heterosexist and misogynistic views)

has anyone ever heard of any black people who have had any extraterrestrial experiences or contact? any asians? any indians?

..this is just another personal opinion of mine--the way that the reptilians are percieved seems to parallel racists' views towards minorites and racism in general. I.E. they are all evil and ugly. they hate us. they steal from us. they smell bad. etc etc--they are not seen as individual beings but stereotyped and put into a 'box', generalized as race.

have any of the nordics personally identified themselves? given names?

I mean Alex Collier also identifies reptilians as the 'bad guys' but his friends at least gave their names and actually maintained a relationship of sorts with him.

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the idea of "safezones" is inherently fearful. id rather get destroyed in a massive tidal wave helping someone or comforting someone or helping a dog, i dont care, running to a place with other people scared for their own lives seems like your stuck in that lower chakra of survival.

not for me.

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Clark Kent: I do share your concern with the Nordic ET contact. However, I do tend to believe that these “Nordics” could be our creators and may think they are our masters (benevolent or not) because they created us; they may have terra formed Earth as well. It is possible that they had a plan for us to follow, and we are not following that plan. When they ignited the spark of life into our biological bodies perhaps they did not know exactly what they had created/co-created, a life form that would have connections to the “Creator” of all that is? and this "Creator" may have other plans for us? Just a thought of mine because it tends to fit with the stories of the Annuaki/War of the Gods story. I do believe Miriam is genuine and can only relate to us what she has been told.

i refuse to believe that were created by what hitler called the "uber man" (blonde haired blue eyed)
this is ONE contactees views and i have numerous problems with it and her "messianic" distant/vibe, sure she had postive things to say but its wrapped in FEAR which doesnt work for me.

st clair told me the only places he knows where i can survive (in america or close to it) is the yukon or utah (rockymountains) this is literally "head for the hills" and if thats all these enlightened beings can tell us then its not for me.

her "i have seen the future" struck me as creepy prophet/messianic.
all the ground crew seems to be about is fleeing. guess who also got his followers to move to south america with his admittedly positive/spiritual and "end times" message? jim jones.

end times prophets are to be avoided i think. who cares where you live, focus on your spirituality. its like driving a car and worrying endlessly about where to park, enjoy the ride and focus on who's driving the car.
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In my evaluation when she truly recognizes her personal power she will then know that no one needs saving or saviors. And when she recognizes that it is all her...nothing is outside of her, she may just write another book.

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We all create our own realities, it's as simple and powerful as that. The only boogeyman that's out there is the one your hold in your beliefs - and for some that is necessary to feel that their life has a purpose or a reason for an inspiration for change. That's all good - no judgement here. Some of us just come from another place - where we choose to invest our energies in different directions - from the center outward vs. from always going to the outer to shape who we are.

I have to be honest - I couldn't get past about 15 mins. Some of us coming from the center don't need all of the sensational details of a story to feel someone's message - and who they are becoming.

I hope that others can understand where some of us come from - I know on the surface you may react to our words as you perceive us to be judgemental, critical, debunkers, nonbelievers, or ego. That is not the case - we are just resonating on a different level.

We don't see things as words - we know there is another universal language that we are tapped into. We can be great links here to the intent of Avalon - so as we can see your perspective, I would ask the same of you.

Both are valuable.

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has anyone ever heard of any black people who have had any extraterrestrial experiences or contact?
Barney Hill was a famous example...
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Enjoyed the interview

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