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Old 12-13-2009, 12:52 PM   #1
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Hi goingtofast,
Hey cut out the negative vibes and respect for everyone . You will spoil it for all the PC members new and old. Move the thread on.

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Old 12-13-2009, 01:10 PM   #2
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Bill,

Thank you for your gracious, patient replies on this thread.

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This is news to me. I'm not familiar with Ott's list. Does he have a blog? Or is this information available to everyone?

I remember Rense posting the article that must have come from Burisch's camp. And I have thought that Rense thought the article was really about the Army's Project Camelot...
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My inaccuracy - not a list per se. It was part of a long discussion with quite a number of people cc'd. Ott quoted the Rense smear piece and wrote (addressed to Tim White)

"Did you write this? It is an excellent exposé."
  1. Is it possible that Rense thought the article in question was actually about the Army's Project Camelot? Thus, it would not be a smear piece at all?
  2. Who is Tim White? Do I have the capability to view the email in question?
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Old 12-13-2009, 01:13 PM   #3
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Hello Bill,

Is there any specific direction you and Kerry are interested in taking Camelot? Meaning, With all the wide area you two cover, is there a point where you feel it would be easier to focus on certain issues more then others? I ask this because you two do so much work and I worry about it sometimes. lol.

Anyways, Keep it up. I Feel connected very strongly to your efforts.
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Old 12-13-2009, 04:01 PM   #4
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Questions:

- Please, Bill, do you know where we could get the “original” Ron Hubbard’s material (texts, technics, etc.), but not the newer, altered and "watered down" one?

- If so, could you post the links to Ron Hubbard’s “original” material in this thread or in the Project Camelot web site (*1)? That would be a good reference point for people to find it.

(*1) Sorry, Bill, I did not see your comment on Post 292, pag. 12. In any case, the link you indicated from a Russian server does not seem to work, this one:

http://lrh.myftp.org/

Bill, do you know of any other link with the “original” Hubbard material? Is it available in E-mule, Ares, etc.?

- Are there still active groups of people who follow-practice the “original” Ron Hubbard’s findings? If so, is it possible to contact them? (*2)

(*2) Second thought: In case there are active groups, are they still being persecuted by the PTB? If so, I imagine they might not want to identify themselves. So, is it possible to practice Hubbard’s findings all by ourselves just by reading his instructions and without the help of “teachers”?

- Would it be possible to somehow “reactivate” Ron Hubbard’s “original” project to wake the world up (I mean before his project was neutralized-destroyed by the PTB)?
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Dear Bill, thanks for all your replies, we really appreciate it.

I’ve almost finished reading (it’s long) your interview with “Dane Tops”, where he explains the amazing adventures of Ron Hubbard (from the original Church of Scientology) trying to escape from the constant attack of the PTB as well as the impressive discoveries he made in relation to human consciousness, recovery of all our lost memory, astral travelling, healing, etc.

The interview is impressive, it is one of the best ones. And if what Dane Top says is true, it could change the world for the better (let’s hope so).

I encourage everybody to read it, it’s a must read! So, I congratulate you and Kerry for it. Well done. This is the link:

An interview with 'Dane Tops':
The man who blew the Church of Scientology wide open

http://projectcamelot.org/dane_tops.html

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Old 12-13-2009, 04:45 PM   #5
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This looks like a front for another scamtology recruiting drive.

www.xenutv.com

L. Ronald Hubbard Jr (aka Ronald Edward DeWolf) also had this to say, 'My father only knew how to do one thing; that was destroy them [people who oppose him]', and 'I can say flat that 99 percent of what my father wrote about his own life is false.'

Gerry Armstrong is one of the most important people in Scientology’s history. As L. Ron Hubbard’s personal archivist, he unleashed the documented evidence that shows Hubbard lied about virtually every aspect of his life.


I'm watching you Ryan

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Old 12-13-2009, 04:48 PM   #6
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Hi Bill,

First my gratitude to you and Kerry for running Project Camelot.

I would like to quote something from Keylontic Science of Ashayana Deane about Free Energy..

"IN a nutshell, all forms of electrical current on thisplanet make use
of the distorted electrons and EM feild generated on this planet by
the 'Caduceous' implant network', also known as the 'death seal'.

so called 'free energy' technologies that are coming as bleed through
from the UFO scene and related 'inspired' physics are black hole
technologies, the EM feilds they produce are shona feilds and are
extremely detrimental to Organic Environment and life forms.

Dont be fooled- official disclosure- for whatever spurious reason
would not be a good thing at this time...."


Now I have been researching this subject and couldn't find any evidence in the keylontic science yet that there is a way for making free energy devices that are positive.

So my question is what do you hear from your whistleblower physicists about the harmfullness of free energy "magnetic" motor devices.

Thank you
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Old 12-13-2009, 05:08 PM   #7
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For those wanting to know about scientology, its practices, its policies, its victims and finally about the tyrant of a conman that founded it, head to...

http://www.xenu-directory.net/


I lost a childhood friend of 20 years to this cult. I watched her change from a beautiful, caring and loving woman to a glazed eyed fanatic that exploded at me for asking her to do some background research on scientology. Unfortunately the indoctrination and brainwashing had settled in. She had disconnected from me.

Disconnection is the Scientologist practice of severing ties between a Church of Scientology member and the friends, colleagues, and family members who disapprove of, or criticize Scientology practices; that is, "sources of disinformation (entheta)", or Potential Trouble Sources (PTS), or Suppressive Persons (SP), that interfere with their progress in the organization. The practice was said to have ended in 1969 and then reinstated in 1983.

At least I'm not a victim of the 'Fair Game' policy.
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Old 12-13-2009, 05:20 PM   #8
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Hiya everyone,

I have been lurking around the forum since late 2008, taking in information, resonating with some theories and philosophies and generally just smelling the roses, but when this scientology topic came up and had to step in and say something as it is a heart wrenching experience for me. Please don't be fooled. Educate yourselves from the websites that I have provided.
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Old 12-13-2009, 01:21 PM   #9
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I can see this thread growing to monstrous proportions (if I can keep this up every day!) and so it's going to get more and more difficult with questions being asked which have already been answered - and responses to answers which have been missed or misread with all the good intentions in the world.
Here is my logical suggestion:

One thread is not suitable for all the information and "branches of information". You need a "forum section" of your own, where you can post information regarding various topics. This forum section should be set to "reply only" (and there are settings for that in the administration area of this forum). A reply only forum means that members do not even have the option to create new topics in that section. They can only respond to existing topics, created by "yourself". That way you can post information in the most appropriate thread, that you have created "for" the information.

To keep member to member banter to a minimum (and I see that your thread is full of it), members can post questions in the topic that you have created, but should be restricted from conversing with "each other" (exceptions would be made for "crucial" information such as "corrections". If it's not crucial, and just a personal comment - it gets deleted. People will soon get the idea.). ie: There's a whole forum with dozens of sections for members to talk with "each other" should they choose to do so -- and they should do it there. That way, you you have all the information in the appropriate sections (which is easier to find and refer to), people are able to ask questions, you are able to respond, everything is much faster and more efficient.

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I would like to add that I am a full time web developer, programmer and web administrator by profession, and have built and run literally hundreds of forums over the last decade. I am well accustomed to forum behavior and how to moderate and deal with problems (which is why I am always flapping my arms around this place). What I have suggested may seem difficult at first glance, but due to my experience, I must insist that my suggestions will cause everything run more efficiently. The first objection that I think might cross your mind is: "Oh but it would all be too messy having different threads to monitor". I would suggest that the case would be quite the contrary. As the information grows, it's going to be hard to go back through a single thread full of dozens (hundreds?) of topics that's hundreds of pages long. It will be much more beneficial for not only yourself (to be able to go back to find / edit / correct / amend information), but also for people that haven't kept up with everything and are interested in a particular topic -- and want to read it without having to wade through pages and pages of unrelated material and banter.

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Old 12-13-2009, 01:51 PM   #10
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Maybe mods, or a volounteer, could simply compile a list of people's questions from this thread into one Sticky thread that Bill can then come along when he has a spare moment and answer, bang, bang, bang...?
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Old 12-13-2009, 02:07 PM   #11
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Hey Bill,

Many thanks for the replies. Much appreciated.
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Old 12-13-2009, 02:08 PM   #12
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Hello again . To Bill and Kerry,

I don't know if it was said before, but your presence on Avalon is very much appreciated and useful. The fact we can enter directly in contact with you shows integrity, respect and dedication. You care about the "listeners". It does a tremendous work of clarification that will certainly show up in future threads.

The period of time you were "away" from the forum, you were missed and the forum did loose a portion of its energy. We are friends with other "roles" in this game. I am, and many here are, committed to inform the ones in our path to take a look at your "interviews" among others. I even translated some in real time for a small audience.

I know your time is rare and precious. I got the same kind of schedule on my hands. Nevertheless, if you guys show only for a post or two regularly just to keep in touch with the community, it would help to improve our cohesion as a group .

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Old 12-13-2009, 02:20 PM   #13
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members can post questions in the topic that you have created
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You are suggesting that the ability for members to initiate a question to Bill Ryan be taken away?
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Old 12-13-2009, 02:37 PM   #14
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You are suggesting that the ability for members to initiate a question to Bill Ryan be taken away?
No -- what I am suggesting is a more functional and easy to follow method of Bill being able to communicate with the forum and for that information to be more adequately directed. There's no reason that this thread couldn't stay operational (ie: be moved to the section that I have suggested), where people can ask direct questions that do not relate to actual topics / updates / announcements that Bill would have made in the appropriate threads. Additionally, people would be able to ask specific questions on "actual" subjects, in an easy to find area that is full of other related information on such a topic.

I am rather certain that most people will not follow the entirety of a singular thread full of "everything and anything" (even though some are). This is a powerful forum software -- there's no reason why Bill should be communicating as if he were on a glorified shoutbox. It would also be a lot Easier for Bill, because in his CP, all new responses would be listed. He would also be able to remember, more efficiently which information is where, because it would all be titled under threads that he personally created and named.
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Old 12-13-2009, 02:54 PM   #15
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I would like to comment further on this (said by myself above).

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They can only respond to existing topics, created by "yourself". That way you can post information in the most appropriate thread, that you have created "for" the information.
This would give you the ability to create a new thread if you perceive that 1). The same question keeps coming up 2). You know of information that is going to become popular (ie: you're going to get questions about it, and you "know" it) 3). Information that you specifically "want" questions for 4). Specific information that you "want" more feedback from.

It would allow you to easily dissect and organize the information / questions / feedback into areas that you can visit at both your leisure and by priority of importance. Moderators would also be able to move questions from thread to thread, if they perceive that they are in the wrong place. This further allows you to concentrate on one thing at a time, instead of everything at once.

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Old 12-14-2009, 02:47 AM   #16
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I would like to comment further on this (said by myself above).



This would give you the ability to create a new thread if you perceive that 1). The same question keeps coming up 2). You know of information that is going to become popular (ie: you're going to get questions about it, and you "know" it) 3). Information that you specifically "want" questions for 4). Specific information that you "want" more feedback from.

It would allow you to easily dissect and organize the information / questions / feedback into areas that you can visit at both your leisure and by priority of importance. Moderators would also be able to move questions from thread to thread, if they perceive that they are in the wrong place. This further allows you to concentrate on one thing at a time, instead of everything at once.
This is a pretty good idea and closely matches some of the ideas expressed within the moderator team.

However there is another approach - Bill (or anyone else for that matter) could actually use the forum like, well, a forum and have more than one thread.

Instead of concentrating it all in one giant thread (which will ultimately fail as it gets more and more unwieldy ) it may be a better idea to branch out into threads.

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Old 12-13-2009, 07:05 AM   #17
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Hi Bill

I agree with your previous comments about Nesara. It would seem to me to be an invention of the cabal to disempower the "lightworkers" who are still waiting for St Germaine to manifest all those gold bars and take away everyone's money worries!

However, i was interested also to know why you lumped the Ashtar Command into the same pile of manure as Nesara? Thanking you in advance Bill.

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Old 12-13-2009, 02:30 AM   #18
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Just a big thank-you to Bill and Kerry for choosing to take a very rocky road less traveled...and for opening dozens of cans of worms. You are helping to save the world...big time. Namaste.
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Old 12-13-2009, 03:05 AM   #19
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Hi folks,

Lets keep this thread for asking Bill questions on a mature level not personnal attacks on sexuality it not good Karma!

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Old 12-13-2009, 10:01 AM   #20
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Hi Bill

I would really really like to know why you an kerry have not interviewed Stewart Swerdlow?

I know he is on you interview list I saw on your website for future requests.

Iam stumped as to why you haven’t interviewed him or even Janet his wife, of all the people you have interviewed to me he would seem just as much a candidate maybe even more so.

Could it be maybe that some of what he shares contradicts the information of some of your whistleblowers that you have interviewed?

This is just a thought so in order to clear up all speculation I and a few Stewarts peeps would love to know why why why ?

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Hi Bill,

I am wondering if you and Kerry have looked into the crop circle phenomeonon at all and if not - do you plan to?

There is a very popular video on youtube (viewed by 5 million now) which shows a video of crop circles and communicates an alleged message from the stars in binary code.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KoR2t-iM9k
The message is along the lines of "Beware the bearers of the false persons and broken promises. Much pain but there is still time, believe there is still good out there. We oppose decipt. The conduit is closing."

If you have any information on the validity of this I would be interested. I am particularly curious about what the conduit may be...

I reitterate the multitude of thanks and good wishes others have sent to you and Kerry for your endless work on the infinitely complex situation here on Earth.
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Hi Bill,

I am wondering if you and Kerry have looked into the crop circle phenomeonon at all and if not - do you plan to?

There is a very popular video on youtube (viewed by 5 million now) which shows a video of crop circles and communicates an alleged message from the stars in binary code.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KoR2t-iM9k
The message is along the lines of "Beware the bearers of the false persons and broken promises. Much pain but there is still time, believe there is still good out there. We oppose decipt. The conduit is closing."

If you have any information on the validity of this I would be interested. I am particularly curious about what the conduit may be...


Hi Real,

I don't wish to detract from this thread and lets not have a discussion about here, if you want PM me. I'm not sure if Bill is aware of this but Colin Andrews believes that that message is a hoax as when it appeared the movie Signs was released and he believes it was a media stunt.

I reitterate the multitude of thanks and good wishes others have sent to you and Kerry for your endless work on the infinitely complex situation here on Earth.
Hi Real,

I don't wish to detract from this thread and lets not have a discussion about here, if you want PM me. I'm not sure if Bill is aware of this but Colin Andrews believes that that message is a hoax as when it appeared the movie Signs with Mel Gibson was released and he believes it was a media stunt to drum up business.
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Old 12-13-2009, 11:43 AM   #23
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Hi Bill,
First post, just wanted to congratulate you and Kerry on doing such an amazing job.

I was wondering if you had any plans to interview Dolores Cannon? I have recently come across her work and find it very informative.

I was also wondering if PC had any plans to visit Australia again? I would love to see you guys in person (and I am sure that I am not alone there).

And I second the request for an elaboration on your contact/abduction.... your Freedom Central interview was great, but I would love to hear more, particularly about your "software upgrade"
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And I second the request for an elaboration on your contact/abduction.... your Freedom Central interview was great, but I would love to hear more, particularly about your "software upgrade"
Yes Bill I have to agree.

Your interview with Freedom Central about your abduction was very brief.

Care to elaborate?

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Hi, All:

* The subtle points I mentioned about the importance of the several major Greer changes since 2001 - all taken together to generate a major question (the answer to which, in my view and that of many others, is clear) haven't been commented on by anyone as far as I can see.


Sorry Bill, as I did comment on that but it was deleted and that is why you do not see it. Also note I did not do the deleting and there was nothing I said in that post that was offensive, so I'm a little puzzled by that. The only thing I can figure is that I didn't pose you a question and that is why it was deleted.
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