PRAY FOR PEACE PEOPLE... October is here

[isorec]

Peace for Peace!

[sonique a. senshun]

There must be a fine line between believing (war will happen) and praying against it, and NOT PUTTING ENERGY INTO IT. So live in peace, stay peaceful, believe in peace, and understand this latest news is just part of the outplaying of the transformation dance. Tell everyone like it's a joke... those neocons think they can get away with it... hehehe... but we KNOW it won't work.

[Orion11]

yea.. not about religion.
its about intent.

Blessings

[THE eXchanger]

time to play our pieces...

we are a piece of peace !!!

please keep this thread at the top

brightest blessings of energy, light and love to all

i am susan
the exchanger

[Accipiter_Phi]

CSPAN:
Flynt Leverett worked as a senior director for Middle East affairs at the National Security Council, the NSC, and he was a CIA analyst.

Flynt Leverett speaks out on how the CIA cleared his "Sentry Foundation Paper" (destined as an op-ed for the New York Times) regarding the options we have with IRAN.

BUT OFCOURSE, Bush's executive branch quickly RECLASSIFIED IT FRAUDULENTLY. He is now threatened with criminal prosecution if he publishes it. Fraud in the White House? Say it isn't so!

His Op-ed would have only spoke of PUBLIC DOMAIN INFO regarding the FACT that in 2003, Iran offered the U.S. a "negotiation" (ney, "a comprehensive grand bargain") which was completely rejected by the BUSH administration. (Go Condi!)

Once again, intelligence officials of the CIA buckled under taudry political pressure after the CIA's own Publication Review Board cleared this paper for publication.

What does it all mean? It all leads to keeping America dumbed down in order to back the coming war.

We need an image of Iran to be propagated: Iran as the obstinate den of illogical & dangerous heathens... evil doers.

PLEASE WATCH short Flynt Leverett VIDEO HERE NOW:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7a3Bfox0k4g

... another piece of the puzzle painting a clear and concise case for Premeditation & Malice Aforethought on the part of the BUSH administration misleading the populace in order to manufacture another BS war.

OCTOBER? SURPRISE!

I don't think prayer can stop this one, kids.

[doodah]

Well, it all depends on how you think about things. In the Star Trek episode at the OK Corral, Mr. Spock said, "If you believe for even a nanosecond that the bullets are real, they will kill you." That's not just pop-speak, that's some serious metaphysics.

I will maintain this vigil.

[HeidiLore]

Bump for meditation...keep it going.

[Advocate Of Truth]

Peace on this earth is inevitable. This war is an act of desperation. Cheers for the positive thread.

[HaveBlue]

I have found my way here via the What's new- Project Camelot.
So is this Avalon business? (in the Avalon thread) Unless an Iranian ground crew is trying to get themselves prepared?
Doodah-Post in PC thread. As Bill has said before real prayer done by an experienced person with the right focus and intent has and will move mountains.
However how do you expect this thread to stay on top when you tell people 'not time for disscussin'-just pray!?
Some will get on their knees and others will get of their you know what's.
If someone can name names we can send them an absent healing, they,whoever they are,are obviously in need of one or 100!

Israel is cuurently going through the process of putting together a coalition Government. A women actually is trying to form one-let's hope (pray) she succeeds. I know nothing of her but she's a hell of a lot hotter than Hillary and if she's successful it will be the first time in 30 years they've had a women leader. We have one here in New Zealand and she did keep us out of Iraq. The male leaders of the opposition here (all 3 over the last 3 years) would definately have involved us.
At the time when I swallowed the mainstream news I was not happy with her decision to keep us out. I was wrong and she was right. Many men here also feel the same way. We have an election in 2 months ourselves and I will vote for her and her party for the first time.

So I feel there is hope for Israel. And you U.S citizens who I feel deeply concerned for.
Remember 'Dadmiral' Mike Mc Connell is a good man. And there are others.
Just like in the Cuban missile crisis back in 62 was it, was actually a nuke Sub crisis with 4 Submarine Captains all in their 30s that all had a pact with each other that if one fired the rest would too,but most importantly they all had the authority to fire without further orders from Moscow if they saw fit,and after being hunted and made to surface after a two week game of cat and mouse- NOBODY was so stupid to start WW3.
I do believe the alphabet soups and sock puppets just want to see if Iran IS building bombs or power stations and they will pay a spy (H Deacon or whoever) to go and find out-please!

I am very interested in what some of the (real,genuine) Remote Viewers have to say about this.

[doodah]

Originally Posted by HaveBlue

I have found my way here via the What's new- Project Camelot.
So is this Avalon business? (in the Avalon thread) Unless an Iranian ground crew is trying to get themselves prepared?
Doodah-Post in PC thread.

Hi HaveBlue: Just woke up and catching up with the thread. I started the thread in PC but realized it wouldn't get the most viewing there, so did this one in Avalon. It's not properly about community building, as many threads here are not - in the sense of physical communities. But as I read the threads, a different kind of community is being built here. This has become a place where many feel at home, something they rarely feel, including myself. I sort of felt: We can lay down our hammers and land-buying plans and come together for one night to work on peace, can't we? Utilize the positive energies that are here.

As Bill has said before real prayer done by an experienced person with the right focus and intent has and will move mountains.

However how do you expect this thread to stay on top when you tell people 'not time for disscussin'-just pray!?

I wanted to avoid all the discussion of the negatives here. There are many other threads dealing with all that. There is a way our minds work, that in discussing the negatives, you actually hold images and emotions of the negatives for that time, even if you are arguing against them. My intent was to invite positive thought. Someone posted that it was important that our positive intent not get subverted, and I agree with that.

I'm not saying don't discuss. But discussion in the way it usually happens, which many times raises very strong emotions that are not necessarily peaceful, was not the intent of this thread.

Your points below were quite positive, I thought, and I find them very welcome.

Some will get on their knees and others will get of their you know what's.
If someone can name names we can send them an absent healing, they,whoever they are,are obviously in need of one or 100!

Israel is cuurently going through the process of putting together a coalition Government. A women actually is trying to form one-let's hope (pray) she succeeds. I know nothing of her but she's a hell of a lot hotter than Hillary and if she's successful it will be the first time in 30 years they've had a women leader. We have one here in New Zealand and she did keep us out of Iraq. The male leaders of the opposition here (all 3 over the last 3 years) would definately have involved us.

At the time when I swallowed the mainstream news I was not happy with her decision to keep us out. I was wrong and she was right. Many men here also feel the same way. We have an election in 2 months ourselves and I will vote for her and her party for the first time.

So I feel there is hope for Israel. And you U.S citizens who I feel deeply concerned for.

Remember 'Dadmiral' Mike Mc Connell is a good man. And there are others.
Just like in the Cuban missile crisis back in 62 was it, was actually a nuke Sub crisis with 4 Submarine Captains all in their 30s that all had a pact with each other that if one fired the rest would too,but most importantly they all had the authority to fire without further orders from Moscow if they saw fit,and after being hunted and made to surface after a two week game of cat and mouse- NOBODY was so stupid to start WW3.

I do believe the alphabet soups and sock puppets just want to see if Iran IS building bombs or power stations and they will pay a spy (H Deacon or whoever) to go and find out-please!

I am very interested in what some of the (real,genuine) Remote Viewers have to say about this.

Welcome!

[Omniscience]

Although I wish religion was never brought into the picture, I am aware that religion was created as a substitute for the truth in ancient times, since nobody really knew back then. What their desire for the answer led them to do was create for themselves a fabrication. That turned into a shield in more modern times, but people had been so used to the idea of religion, that religion itself because more modern and powerful as well. I am all for spirituality, but I am not completely convinced that in our current time, we have the combined mind energy to influence a few hundred thousand - million bombs thousands of miles from here. I am a very logical person, and would like some scientific proof that this can be done, since some of you have claimed that such proof has already been given.

[doodah]

Originally Posted by Omniscience

Although I wish religion was never brought into the picture, I am aware that religion was created as a substitute for the truth in ancient times, since nobody really knew back then. What their desire for the answer led them to do was create for themselves a fabrication. That turned into a shield in more modern times, but people had been so used to the idea of religion, that religion itself because more modern and powerful as well. I am all for spirituality, but I am not completely convinced that in our current time, we have the combined mind energy to influence a few hundred thousand - million bombs thousands of miles from here. I am a very logical person, and would like some scientific proof that this can be done, since some of you have claimed that such proof has already been given.

Here's a thought to ponder: The logical mind is a function of the ego. Think what that means. Ego control. The ego was intended as a bridge between the inner world and the outer world, but the ego in our time has been given too much power, thinking it is the only measure of what is real and what isn't. And yet you dream, outside of ego control. If you meditate, you know you cannot take your ego into meditation. If you have out of body experiences, the ego does not go with you. If you've experienced telepathy, the ego, or rational mind, did not control that -- although they are trying to bring that under control, especially in the military. True prayer, not related to religion at all, is outside of ego. Usually the ego, or rational mind, clamps down on all experience of this nature, and tries to deny that such things exist. But they do. You dream.

Dream a world of peace, if that's what you want.

Just some stuff to think about.

[lightbeing]

Originally Posted by Omniscience

Although I wish religion was never brought into the picture, I am aware that religion was created as a substitute for the truth in ancient times, since nobody really knew back then. What their desire for the answer led them to do was create for themselves a fabrication. That turned into a shield in more modern times, but people had been so used to the idea of religion, that religion itself because more modern and powerful as well. I am all for spirituality, but I am not completely convinced that in our current time, we have the combined mind energy to influence a few hundred thousand - million bombs thousands of miles from here. I am a very logical person, and would like some scientific proof that this can be done, since some of you have claimed that such proof has already been given.

Hi Omniscience, Welcome to this forum

May I suggest the following websites?
www.heartmath.org
www.globalcoherence.com
Maybe not definitive proof, but very interesting research.

Enjoy your visit here on Avalon.
Lots of information to gather.

Many blessings!

Namaste !

[doodah]

Peace is now. Peace is here. Peace is everywhere. All the people on this Earth wishing to live in peace, which is most of us, are now free to live in peace. Aboriginal peoples may once again live in peace with the land. Radiant communities may now live in peace with the planet and others. All people everywhere may now live in peace!

[visual co-creator]

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[colesmommy1117]

Originally Posted by visual co-creator

I frequently meditate on joints

here here!!

[doodah]

Jesus said: "All that I have done, you can do and more," but apparently nobody believes him, including Christians. That's a master teaching, a high metaphysics, what they called a teaching of the the secret schools, which is now public [in the Bible for 2000 years] and available to all of us. The master said we have the power to be healers and to feed the hungry, not through money, but as he demonstrated. Let's heal this planet and love one another!

I predict that if there are plans to attack Iran, they will be spoiled just like the war in Georgia. And if, for some bizarre reason, it does happen? All Hell would break loose in the Middle East. How would this benefit the election? I don't think McCain or Obama would be too happy about postponing the elections after all the hard work they put into their campaigns.

I meditate on a daily basis, so I will also contribute to the cause of world peace. I add my power to yours. We will calm down the negative storm.

Peace.

[doodah]

Originally Posted by suriel

We will calm down the negative storm.

Peace.

Thank you! And so we are doing. We are oil on troubled waters. Breathe peace to the world with every breath.

[Dantheman62]

Originally Posted by doodah

Thank you! And so we are doing. We are oil on troubled waters. Breathe peace to the world with every breath.

Hey doodah, I have many pieces of peace, a plethora of peace, therefore I will spread pieces of peace to all.( with big smiles ) PEACE!!!!!!!

[doodah]

Originally Posted by Dantheman62

Hey doodah, I have many pieces of peace, a plethera of peace, therefore I will spread pieces of peace to all.( with big smiles ) PEACE!!!!!!!

Good job. Spreading a plethora of peace.

We do not let any rotten apples spoil this barrel. In our role as guardian and caretaker, we pluck them out and offer them to the worms for food, where they serve a good purpose. Back to the earth, back to the soil, through the bellies of earthworms and microbial breakdown, and next year's flowers grow. We are planting next year's flowers now.

[Vianova]

War triggers gears to common fears in human communication,
and so the idea is to focus Peace Intention
and that is very good, indeed.

Peace Intention is quite powerful,
and it is what we all have to use
against the war intentions of the Puppet Masters.
We need more numbers of people focused,
we need the masses blinded by the media propaganda, to awaken.
I guess that is what we try to do in essence,
by being awake, we awaken those in our presences.
Everybody Loves Peace,
especially war victims.

I do not want to sound negative in the flow of
positive energies, but
this impending war cannot be viewed thru rose colored glasses unfortunately.

Remember one thing as well,
Ahmadinejad
is an International Criminal Clown War terrorist
along with the rest of the Puppet Masters.
They are all terrorists.
Olmert, Bush, Putin, etc ... the long list.

If you want to address the bare bones military
contingency planning,
the surgical air strikes will be a Blitzkrieg
and likely the primary target Iranian infrastructure will be decimated within 3 days.

The only real deterrance that the Isrealis and the USA faces would be Russian jets that are superior to US jets, and they are unlikely to enter any conflict before the lion's share of the damage has been affected upon the Iranians,
and then only as the typical propaganda show
ala Litvinenko style cold war rhetoric most likely,
as Russia has gotten quite cozy with Isreal as of late.
Russian tanks don't stand a chance, and neither does the Iranian military.

If you want to pray,
pray that Iranian missiles don't hit Israel
with any accuracy in retaliation,
because that is the excuse
that the Israeli's are looking for.

I pray for a quick end to the war,
because I think the war is inevitable as well,
or for the Iranians
to come clean and stop the nuclear weaponry development before it is too late,
because Ahmadinejad is an obvious liar.

Do they have that right to develop N-weaponries?
Yes.
But why bother?
The Iranians are stupid and arrogant,
Israel has 200-400 nukes .....

israel manufactures it's own
nuclear weapons, jets, tanks, drones, etc
but they rely on US JP-8 jet fuel.



The "Pray for Peace" unified energies
is positive Global Will
to avert a catastrophic outcome,
and reduce the impact of conflict to a minimum.
That is good work on all our parts my friends.

cheers!

[TranceAm]

Originally Posted by Vianova

If you want to pray,
pray that Iranian missiles don't hit Israel
with any accuracy in retaliation,
because that is the excuse
that the Israeli's are looking for.

AH, To have the right to start a pre-emtive war or have the Americans under Neo-Con control/Zionist control start a pre-emptive war, and for "what" exactly, because Iran has the uncontrolled "Freedom" to descide for herself?

Originally Posted by Vianova

I pray for a quick end to the war,
because I think the war is inevitable as well,
or for the Iranians
to come clean and stop the nuclear weaponry development before it is too late,
because Ahmadinejad is an obvious liar.

I have never heard a man tell so much truth...
btw, They are developing IN the open, Nuclear Energy... .
Instead of covered up (in Dimona like others) Nuclear weapons.

Originally Posted by Vianova

Do they have that right to develop N-weaponries?
Yes.
But why bother?
The Iranians are stupid and arrogant,
Israel has 200-400 nukes .....

cheers!

Disinfo. They have the right to develop Nuclear Energy as the free people and sovereign country they are... The claim is that that is for weapons... by others who spread this info out, to achieve in the end http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...srael-maps.htm

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[Softy1107]

Imagine no possessions,
i wonder if you can.
No need for greed or hunger,
a brotherhood of man.
Imagine all the people,
sharing all the world.

PEACE

[Vianova]

Concerning Ahmadinejad and Iranian nuclear power--weapons:

Originally Posted by TranceAm

I have never heard a man tell so much truth...
btw, They are developing IN the open, Nuclear Energy... .
Instead of covered up (in Dimona like others) Nuclear weapons.

LOL
you must be Iranian,....
You have never heard a man tell so much truth?
Ahmadinejad?
What a grand joke.

Ahmadinejad squirms no differently than Olmert or Nasrallah
or Putin or Bush when he is selling lies
to the media.
Ahmadinejad is no different the International Criminal Clown
than Bush or Olmert.
It is quite obvious that the Iranians are concealing the production of nuclear weapons.


also in your comment,

about nuclear weapon production covered up in Israel,
in "Dimona" :


That is so ridiculous that they "cover it up",
when it is obvious that Israel develops it's own nuclear weapons
by virtue of the fact that it is quite well known INTERNATIONALLY
that they have 400 nukes at their disposal,
SO HOW IS IT BEING COVERED UP ?
especially
when the entire world knows that they are a nuclear power
that manufactures all it's own weapons
to include tanks, drones, jets?

so "covered up"
you can go right on the net and download
a US military analysis

here from 1999:
USAF Counterproliferation Center
Air War College
http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/cpc-pubs/farr.htm
Israel's nuclear weapons

from appendix A:
1997: 400 deliverable nuclear weapons

After French disengagement in the early 1960s,
Israel progressed on its own,
including through several covert operations,
to project completion.
By the 1973 Yom Kippur War Israel had a number of sophisticated nuclear bombs,
deployed them, and considered using them.
The Arabs may have limited their war aims
because of their knowledge of the Israeli nuclear weapons.

Israel has most probably conducted several nuclear bomb tests.
They have continued to modernize and vertically proliferate
and are now one of the world's larger nuclear powers.

Using “bomb in the basement” nuclear opacity,
Israel has been able to use its arsenal as a deterrent
to the Arab world ....

everybody knows that the Israeli's manufacture their own nuclear weapons, especially the Iranians,

the Israeli's merely deny it just like the Iranians are now.
Now re-read the last sentence in the link quote above.



Vianova says:

Do they have that right to develop N-weaponries?
Yes.

Tance Am:

Disinfo. They have the right to develop Nuclear Energy as the free people and sovereign country they are...
The claim is that that is for weapons...
by others who spread this info out,
to achieve in the end http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...srael-maps.htm

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there is no "disinfo"....except
In your LINK
is the disinfo,..... in the way you used it!

Of course the Iranians have the right to develop
Nuclear Power,
BUT
my statement is this:
they aslo have the RIGHT
to develop nuclear weaponry!

The US, Russia, France and Israel etc
have absolutely NO RIGHT
to dictate to any nation that they cannot develop
"defensive" weaponries.
It is sheer hypocrisy.
These nuclear powers want to MONOPOLIZE
nuclear weaponry to their advantage
with shadow talk of "deterrance'
when in essence it is offensive weaponry.

israel wants to maintain the upper hand on Iran
by way of military dominance and threat of total annihilation
with regional monopolization of nuclear weaponry,
so how can you blame the Iranians
for wanting
some "defensive" nukes as deterrant...as well.?

Because,
no matter what
nuclear weaponry is offensive,
not defensive,
and Isreal wants to maintain the offensive advantage,
and not allow a chance at iran gaining an offensive advantage.

This is where israel and the US stink.

by monopolization of nuclear weaponry development they maintain the upper hand in "deterrant".

US and Isreal [and Russia, and France etc]
want to create a global security state that controls
energy distributio/development and weaponry development.


Now on your link
that you use as evidence of Israel wanting to expand
and take territory
from several countries:
http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...srael-maps.htm


talk about creating disinfo to twist your point!
Look at your link and READ IT.

You are basically using propaganda quotes by Bin Laden,
which is the basis of the Global Security link's analysis,
as your primary evidence:

In February 2003
an audiotape
purportedly from Osama bin Laden
called President Bush "stupid"
and claimed American war plans against Iraq
were part of a plot to attack Muslim nations
in the Middle East and North Africa.

The United States' goal in waging war against Iraq
is to change the regional map to benefit Israel,
according
to the raspy voice
said to be Bin Laden:

"It is clear that the preparations to attack Iraq
are part of a series of attacks prepared for nations
of the region including Syria, Iran, Egypt and Sudan,"
the voice said.

"The aim of the Crusaders' campaign
is to prepare the atmosphere for the establishment
of the so-called greater Israel state,
which includes great parts of Iraq, Egypt, Syria,
Jordan and large portions of (Saudi Arabia),"
it said.

This clearly is an article that surmises about the propaganda paranoias generated by Bin Laden
affecting "popular cultures"
and
in analysis by the Global Security link:
propels the Palestinians to the forefront of the war:

This conception of a Greater Israel
encompassing much of the Middle East
is evidently
a pervasive element of popular culture in the region,
and it is easy to understand
how this would be taken up by bin Laden
and other propgandists.
By asserting that Israel seeks to occupy the territories
of many other countries in the region,
it places the Palestinians
on the front line
of a struggle common to all people in the region

Other than that the Global Security article references only
one instance of a rogue Zionist faction in 2001
from a movement called “Bead Artzein”
in which "hundreds" of people attended.

This was the source link Global Security used
http://utenti.lycos.it/Delenda_Carth...el_010904.html


lame and feeble,
and certainly does not represent the goals
of Israeli government,
and those maps were ridiculous.


so Trance Am ... with your Global Security link as evidence:
you think that the Isreali government wants to
take Iraq, Sudan, Egypt and Saudi territories
into their possession?