Amero is good and immenent, says Fulford - Page 2

gibonos · 03-12-2010, 08:01 PM

double post

always · 03-07-2010, 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek

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This will probably direct alot of people to sites like infowars and rense when this happens, which even though are mostly fear mongering disinfo, they will really help to wake alot of people up.

The most beneficial result will be waking people up! I don't know where they will go for answers, but it will certainly raise questions in their minds. How do The Powers-That-Be explain this?

Wood · 03-07-2010, 12:54 AM

A sudden announcement of the Amero with a 30 day notice to change US dollars (and Canadian dollars and Mexican pesos) would be chaotic, both among the population and in the finacial markets all over the world.

Here in Europe we had a long process to switch to the Euro, with at least two stages and plenty of time and information.

IMO if the Amero is coming it is not going to happen overnight (unless the situation is really critical). I think it is wise to have some money in other currencies though, because this proccess will probably be followed by a devaluation of the Amero (or a previous devaluation of the US dollar).

Finally, I think the idea the Amero will be backed only by the mexican and canadian gold is ridiculous. I do not know how much gold do Mexico and Canada have but I really doubt it can match even a tiny fraction of the US dollars in circulation.

Rocky_Shorz · 03-07-2010, 02:20 AM

grocery stores won't accept peso, Canadian quarters or lira, much less any other world currency, so what do you suggest?

What we are talking about is a complete shut down of purchasing until the conversion happens, stores would only have a 50% off sale instead of remarking everything to the new Euro.

in an instant the electronic dollars in the accounts could be converted. Credit cards would be instant, no the changeover would be more confusing if everyone liquidated their accounts and sat on a big old pile of silver and gold dollars.

Leave it right where it is, if it happens it happens. I don't see England rich enough to at the flip of a switch cover America's debt with gold backed currency. It would just be more fake paper backing up what already isn't there.

nice thought Fulford, but not gonna happen...

Tell your Boys at BIS they need to do better than that.

lawyerforliberty · 03-07-2010, 02:40 AM

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"Originally Posted by Rocky_Shorz
the other way around, if you owe 500K on your home you would owe 250K in Amero "

Or worse: The so-called Amero would theoritically have twice the purchasing power relative to the dollar given the exchange ratio, but what if the debtor/obligor is still required to discharge the debt one for one. Thus, under the stated hypothetical, the $500,000 mortgage will now be $1,000,000.

"that makes more sense, but this Amero ting wont happen. Fulford is full of sheit man...."

Agreed.
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Rocky_Shorz · 03-07-2010, 02:47 AM

and then again covering the derivatives, if 20-40 was lent for every 1 held in asset...

the bank holds the loan for 500K, plus the title worth $500K so they are able to borrow against this 1M x 40

so your comfy little home is worth 40 Million to the bank...

Maybe I'll just take out a loan from China for 250K of Amero and walk in and pay it off...

mkspllmn · 03-07-2010, 03:35 AM

No currency will be back by gold because 99% of the world gold supply is "missing".

MargueriteBee · 03-07-2010, 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkspllmn

No currency will be back by gold because 99% of the world gold supply is "missing".

I wonder if all that gold went off planet.

lindabaker · 03-07-2010, 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MargueriteBee

I wonder if all that gold went off planet.

If the purpose of a long standing "conquering" of Earth was to mine gold, then MarqueriteBee, yours may be a valid and very interesting theory. Who (off planet) would be most likely to have done this? Does anybody have any ideas? We don't need to discuss the motive...as gold has technical qualities (therefore value) that we could talk about for many posts. What if the "Miners" have returned for their package, all wrapped up by the ones who replaced the gold with tungsten? As outrageous as it sounds, say we go with Marguerite's theory for just a moment. Maybe we can find the connections. Were the ones who gave up the gold "in" on it? Or were they coerced? How many centuries does this story go back? Are the ones who have returned already gathered their "booty" and are they laughing all the way back to their planet(s)? Did they get the people in the space program to do their work for them, or did they bring their own ships and just load 'em up and take off? What a story. Great thought, MargueriteBee!

always · 03-07-2010, 11:02 PM

Fulford may be contemplating a win-win or otherwise peaceful transition, but the Powers-That-Be (PTB) may not. A change of the financial system can be difficult to explain to the general populace in relatively peaceful times, but a lot easier during a war. Whether Fulford's negotiations resolved the prospect of war or not, I don't know.

Let's say the PTB launch a False Flag operation in the Middle East as described by Aaron McCollum in his recent Camelot Interview. Once a war starts, transitioning the currency system is a lot easier. They'll say we need to pool our resources (Mexico, USA & Canada) because of the war, that it is an emergency situation and anyone who disagrees is un-patriotic, if not treasonous.

Though it is good to at least be aware of this possibility, consider the following:

My understanding is that after 9/11 the desire of most of us not to have an all-out World War, helped to minimize the scale of the wars to basically Iraq and Afghanistan. Not good by any means, but it could have been worse. So what I am suggesting is that our desire for a peaceful transition, monetarily and with respect to free energy, etc., is important. Be aware of the False Flag potential but focus our attention on events like The Great Gathering and other positive efforts.

orthodoxymoron · 03-11-2010, 02:23 AM

I'm a Country Club Constitutionalist Globalist...and I don't have a problem with a North American Currency or even a Global Currency...if it's done properly...in a non-corrupt manner. Is gold really plentiful enough? Would silver be better? Obviously...the Fed needs to go...but the past misdeeds should not be ignored or swept under the rug. I do, however, believe in a certain amount of amnesty and immunity for full disclosure, full cooperation, and reasonable restitution...so we can move on. The malevolent non-human entities lurking behind the City States (Vatican, City of London, Washington DC) and the UN are the ones who really worry me. Our kings and queens may not be the real kings and queens on the Universal Chessboard.

Namaste

Constitutional

Responsible

Freedom

Rocky_Shorz · 03-07-2010, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mkspllmn

No currency will be back by gold because 99% of the world gold supply is "missing".

Well according to Fulford... "The Amero will replace the US and Canadian dollars and the Mexican peso, he says. It will be backed by Mexican and Canadian gold, the source adds."

He got the info from bankers and we "know" they don't lie...

dolphin · 03-07-2010, 09:33 AM

fulford... ya mean bulford.... why does camelot keep supporting and interviewing delusional "whistleblowers"??? he and his ninjas... right... lol.

no caste · 03-07-2010, 10:15 AM

I'm not sure how an Amero can be ... just ... appeared without consultation with the public. It's sickening! It presupposes a NAU, which is also sickening, especially squished in with Colombia (war against drugs/ Reagan lol) free trade. Then again, I chased around looking for Kissinger who apparently was dead, according to Christopher Story and Ben Fulford, lol Kissinger in reality is more likely lost in the head, demented now. That was a hot Fulford tip.

But, I wonder if this "Amero" would make all the debt disappear, economic consequences evaporate, and the USA wouldn't have troubles with the northern borders anymore, for energy independence. It gets oil, natural resources, land and a bitchy-bitch Queen, with lots of heirs. Canada gets.... shat on.

03-07-2010, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by no caste

But, I wonder if this "Amero" would make all the debt disappear, economic consequences evaporate...

To get myself from the drama....... u have a point there!

The debt can not be repaid...well it can be but that would require to break quit a few backs....several million....

The only way to get rid of this barely imaginable amounts of debt is to "forget about it" as sad as it sounds it is the only and the quickest way to recovery.

Why repay fictional money?

Is there anyone that should be compensated? Yes indeed it is....all the 3rd world counties that enable my comfort and the comfort of all others in the "developed" world....

To compensate that we should give them all the "advanced" technology (give = free) provide them with education (not some shack with a bible but real education) and pay them properly for their work and their resources.

(pay - if there still will be money)

One of the problems i see with Fulford is that he is talking about "win win for everyone" and at the same time he is talking about "world will finally know the truth" and "history will be rewritten". At the present time this does not make much sense...since if the world would know and understand the truth....well than a French revolution would be like a "walk in the park".

He also talks about money system..yet i am missing all the necessary details about this new money system....for if it will be the same as now (self generating debt system) it will all fail....when he talks about gold backed currency...well the gold is limited and so would be the amount of currency that can be used instead of it...that would demand prices to be somewhat "interesting" and as a consequence it is my guess that again...millions would be left out on the rain (but i might be seeing this wrong)

at the present moment one of the options would be that each person sustains himself/herself...than again...this is impossible for all the ones that live in a city jungle and are 100% dependent on the food from the store...and those who do have land have 0 idea about growing food (mos of them)

etc...

there is like a ton of stuff than Fulford does not explain and a ton of stuff that can go wrong....speaking of the wonderful "hidden" technology is not a a good excuse

no caste · 03-07-2010, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spregovori

The debt can not be repaid...well it can be but that would require to break quit a few backs....several million....

Just seems kind of convenient, like there has got to be some financial sleight of hand in the conversion - presto, debt fixed.... maybe? I thought the gold was missing, coated in titanium or whatever, owed to China - seems like a lot of switchero

03-07-2010, 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by no caste

Just seems kind of convenient, like there has got to be some financial sleight of hand in the conversion - presto, debt fixed.... maybe? I thought the gold was missing, coated in titanium or whatever, owed to China - seems like a lot of switchero

the establishment of a new financial system is a hmm enormous undertaking...and it can not be done (my opinion) within the confinement of the current rules

about the gold...fulford often mentions Philippine gold...a would be gold in a hidden location in Philippines....but it would seem that not hidden enough since according to fulford all major players are aware of that gold... etc....a story that leaves all possible conclusions...

Wood · 03-07-2010, 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocky_Shorz

grocery stores won't accept peso, Canadian quarters or lira, much less any other world currency, so what do you suggest?

I am suggesting to have some money in other currencies as protection against (probable) dollar devaluation. Then, change back to dollars (or ameros) to buy your groceries as required. If there is a devaluation you'll probably get a better rate when you change it back.

Anyway, who can predict the future without insider information...

Myra · 03-07-2010, 04:13 AM

Somehow I just don't think the Amero is going to happen at this point, I would be really shocked if it did.

taomation · 03-09-2010, 11:21 AM

I would take Bejamin Fulford with a grain of salt. The guy seems a bit delusional...

Rocky_Shorz · 03-10-2010, 06:03 PM

the 400 tons of gold the IMF just sold over the last few months sounds like an incredible amount.

but this has rocketed the market downward with the news of it's release...

I guess the time to buy back in would be coming as it hits the bottom over the next few weeks and months.

if the Amero is double the value of the dollar that would mean the debt would be ~7T

or a little over a quarter million tons at current market price...

That is just the debt and not fluid currency...

taadev · 03-11-2010, 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rocky_Shorz

the 400 tons of gold the IMF just sold over the last few months sounds like an incredible amount.

but this has rocketed the market downward with the news of it's release...

I guess the time to buy back in would be coming as it hits the bottom over the next few weeks and months.

if the Amero is double the value of the dollar that would mean the debt would be ~7T

or a little over a quarter million tons at current market price...

That is just the debt and not fluid currency...

After learning of the great gold robbery of 1933, when Americans that saw the banksters "writing on the wall" and had bought gold, found, to their horror, their gold would be confiscated, at a specified price, and turned over to .... guess who?

The unFederal ReserveLESS CORPORATION!

Could this happen again?

Steve_A · 03-07-2010, 02:03 PM

Hi Derek,

If the US, Canada and Mexico are to do something similar to the EU which began as the Common Market, formed a long time before the Euro was introduced, the the possibilities of an Amero will be extremely remote.

Why?

In the US a lawmakers passed legislation to scrap the NAFTA. This in effect could stop the "Common Market" in North America, and, consequently the need for a common currency of the three nations involved with this agreement.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUST...e=politicsNews

Still, Fulford could still be right, but I'm not too sure.

Best regards,

Steve

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek

From ben's blog

The Amero plan is back, this time backed by gold: BIS source

The US dollar is about to be replaced by the Amero at a rate of two dollars to one Amero, according to a high level financial source in Switzerland. The Amero will replace the US and Canadian dollars and the Mexican peso, he says. It will be backed by Mexican and Canadian gold, the source adds.

The decision was made at a high level within the Western secret government, he says. The introduction of the Amero will be followed by a dismantling of the Federal Reserve Board, he says. Once the announcement is made, people will have exactly 30 days to convert their dollars to Ameros before the dollars become worthless.

The Western government does not want to cede control of its financial system to China so a decision was made to go with the gold-backed Amero, he says.

Of course many holders of dollars may decide to opt away from the Amero and trade their dollars for other currencies, notably the Chinese yuan and the Hong Kong dollar.

We will seek to confirm this news from other sources and will provide updates if necessary.

http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/

This will probably direct alot of people to sites like infowars and rense when this happens, which even though are mostly fear mongering disinfo, they will really help to wake alot of people up.

Love Light and Blessings

Derek · 03-08-2010, 05:03 AM

From Ben's new blog

"Seen in that light, the latest scheme to revive the Amero I reported in my blog would appear to be backed by the CIA/Goldman Sachs faction. The people who are pushing this Amero plan told me the Federal Reserve Board would be abolished. It is doubtful they will be able to carry out this plan because not many people would be willing to trade their dollars for the new Ameros even if they are backed by Canadian and Mexican gold."

Steve_A · 03-08-2010, 09:24 AM

Hi Derek,

Just another doubt in my mind about this 'story'. My previous doubt youcan read in the post I made previously in this thread. My current doubt is the following:

Why would Canada and Mexico enter this Amero scheme using their gold to back up the currency and include the US? What about the gold from the US?

The thing I see is is that the US seems to be the only North American country in the doldrums at the moment and is beginning to enter in panic mode (very dangerous for a large country) and is slipping in the power stakes on the international stage. Turkey, China, Iran and Brazil have said negative things to the US over the last couple of weeks.

As I see it, the future in hold for the US is going to be hard, not only internally but internationally also. If the US has a natural disaster, I don't see to many nations running to aid the country.

I'm not too sure that other nations will trust any currency where the US, or anyone involved in the back rooms of Sachs and the like are invloved. With the amount of lying and cheating going on, even to the state of where a company basically is destroying a nation (Greece) because of shady dealings, who in their right minds would want to do business with these people?

Also in particular with Fulford and a few other 'specialists', I really do not like the use of "appears to be" and "doubtful" just to cover their backs. What they are doing is exactly what I am doing, giving a point of view. In other words, Fulford is, and has been for some time, giving an educated guess and nothing more.

Best regards,

Steve

Quote:

Originally Posted by Derek

From Ben's new blog

"Seen in that light, the latest scheme to revive the Amero I reported in my blog would appear to be backed by the CIA/Goldman Sachs faction. The people who are pushing this Amero plan told me the Federal Reserve Board would be abolished. It is doubtful they will be able to carry out this plan because not many people would be willing to trade their dollars for the new Ameros even if they are backed by Canadian and Mexican gold."

03-12-2010, 08:01 PM	#1
gibonos Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 192	Re: Amero is good and immenent, says Fulford double post

03-07-2010, 12:54 AM	#3
Wood Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 32	Re: Amero is good and immenent, says Fulford A sudden announcement of the Amero with a 30 day notice to change US dollars (and Canadian dollars and Mexican pesos) would be chaotic, both among the population and in the finacial markets all over the world. Here in Europe we had a long process to switch to the Euro, with at least two stages and plenty of time and information. IMO if the Amero is coming it is not going to happen overnight (unless the situation is really critical). I think it is wise to have some money in other currencies though, because this proccess will probably be followed by a devaluation of the Amero (or a previous devaluation of the US dollar). Finally, I think the idea the Amero will be backed only by the mexican and canadian gold is ridiculous. I do not know how much gold do Mexico and Canada have but I really doubt it can match even a tiny fraction of the US dollars in circulation.

03-07-2010, 02:20 AM	#4
Rocky_Shorz Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 1,098	Re: Amero is good and immenent, says Fulford grocery stores won't accept peso, Canadian quarters or lira, much less any other world currency, so what do you suggest? What we are talking about is a complete shut down of purchasing until the conversion happens, stores would only have a 50% off sale instead of remarking everything to the new Euro. in an instant the electronic dollars in the accounts could be converted. Credit cards would be instant, no the changeover would be more confusing if everyone liquidated their accounts and sat on a big old pile of silver and gold dollars. Leave it right where it is, if it happens it happens. I don't see England rich enough to at the flip of a switch cover America's debt with gold backed currency. It would just be more fake paper backing up what already isn't there. nice thought Fulford, but not gonna happen... Tell your Boys at BIS they need to do better than that.

03-07-2010, 02:40 AM	#5
lawyerforliberty Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Albuquerque, NM Posts: 39	Re: Amero is good and immenent, says Fulford -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Quote: "Originally Posted by Rocky_Shorz the other way around, if you owe 500K on your home you would owe 250K in Amero " Or worse: The so-called Amero would theoritically have twice the purchasing power relative to the dollar given the exchange ratio, but what if the debtor/obligor is still required to discharge the debt one for one. Thus, under the stated hypothetical, the $500,000 mortgage will now be $1,000,000. "that makes more sense, but this Amero ting wont happen. Fulford is full of sheit man...." Agreed. __________________ .

03-07-2010, 02:47 AM	#6
Rocky_Shorz Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 1,098	Re: Amero is good and immenent, says Fulford and then again covering the derivatives, if 20-40 was lent for every 1 held in asset... the bank holds the loan for 500K, plus the title worth $500K so they are able to borrow against this 1M x 40 so your comfy little home is worth 40 Million to the bank... Maybe I'll just take out a loan from China for 250K of Amero and walk in and pay it off...

03-07-2010, 03:35 AM	#7
mkspllmn Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 196	Re: Amero is good and immenent, says Fulford No currency will be back by gold because 99% of the world gold supply is "missing".

03-07-2010, 11:02 PM	#10
always Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 21	Re: Amero is good and immenent, says Fulford Fulford may be contemplating a win-win or otherwise peaceful transition, but the Powers-That-Be (PTB) may not. A change of the financial system can be difficult to explain to the general populace in relatively peaceful times, but a lot easier during a war. Whether Fulford's negotiations resolved the prospect of war or not, I don't know. Let's say the PTB launch a False Flag operation in the Middle East as described by Aaron McCollum in his recent Camelot Interview. Once a war starts, transitioning the currency system is a lot easier. They'll say we need to pool our resources (Mexico, USA & Canada) because of the war, that it is an emergency situation and anyone who disagrees is un-patriotic, if not treasonous. Though it is good to at least be aware of this possibility, consider the following: My understanding is that after 9/11 the desire of most of us not to have an all-out World War, helped to minimize the scale of the wars to basically Iraq and Afghanistan. Not good by any means, but it could have been worse. So what I am suggesting is that our desire for a peaceful transition, monetarily and with respect to free energy, etc., is important. Be aware of the False Flag potential but focus our attention on events like The Great Gathering and other positive efforts. Last edited by always; 03-08-2010 at 01:34 AM.

03-11-2010, 02:23 AM	#11
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: Amero is good and immenent, says Fulford I'm a Country Club Constitutionalist Globalist...and I don't have a problem with a North American Currency or even a Global Currency...if it's done properly...in a non-corrupt manner. Is gold really plentiful enough? Would silver be better? Obviously...the Fed needs to go...but the past misdeeds should not be ignored or swept under the rug. I do, however, believe in a certain amount of amnesty and immunity for full disclosure, full cooperation, and reasonable restitution...so we can move on. The malevolent non-human entities lurking behind the City States (Vatican, City of London, Washington DC) and the UN are the ones who really worry me. Our kings and queens may not be the real kings and queens on the Universal Chessboard. Namaste Constitutional Responsible Freedom

03-07-2010, 09:33 AM	#13
dolphin Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 277	Re: Amero is good and immenent, says Fulford fulford... ya mean bulford.... why does camelot keep supporting and interviewing delusional "whistleblowers"??? he and his ninjas... right... lol.

03-07-2010, 10:15 AM	#14
no caste Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 2,375	Re: Amero is good and immenent, says Fulford I'm not sure how an Amero can be ... just ... appeared without consultation with the public. It's sickening! It presupposes a NAU, which is also sickening, especially squished in with Colombia (war against drugs/ Reagan lol) free trade. Then again, I chased around looking for Kissinger who apparently was dead, according to Christopher Story and Ben Fulford, lol Kissinger in reality is more likely lost in the head, demented now. That was a hot Fulford tip. But, I wonder if this "Amero" would make all the debt disappear, economic consequences evaporate, and the USA wouldn't have troubles with the northern borders anymore, for energy independence. It gets oil, natural resources, land and a bitchy-bitch Queen, with lots of heirs. Canada gets.... shat on.

03-07-2010, 04:13 AM	#19
Myra Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: So Cal Coast USA Posts: 340	Re: Amero is good and immenent, says Fulford Somehow I just don't think the Amero is going to happen at this point, I would be really shocked if it did.

03-09-2010, 11:21 AM	#20
taomation Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 97	Re: Amero is good and immenent, says Fulford I would take Bejamin Fulford with a grain of salt. The guy seems a bit delusional...

03-10-2010, 06:03 PM	#21
Rocky_Shorz Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: USA Posts: 1,098	Re: Amero is good and immenent, says Fulford the 400 tons of gold the IMF just sold over the last few months sounds like an incredible amount. but this has rocketed the market downward with the news of it's release... I guess the time to buy back in would be coming as it hits the bottom over the next few weeks and months. if the Amero is double the value of the dollar that would mean the debt would be ~7T or a little over a quarter million tons at current market price... That is just the debt and not fluid currency... Last edited by Rocky_Shorz; 03-10-2010 at 06:18 PM.

03-08-2010, 05:03 AM	#24
Derek Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: ogden, utah Posts: 84	Re: Amero is good and immenent, says Fulford From Ben's new blog "Seen in that light, the latest scheme to revive the Amero I reported in my blog would appear to be backed by the CIA/Goldman Sachs faction. The people who are pushing this Amero plan told me the Federal Reserve Board would be abolished. It is doubtful they will be able to carry out this plan because not many people would be willing to trade their dollars for the new Ameros even if they are backed by Canadian and Mexican gold."