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Old 02-10-2010, 01:59 PM   #26
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About HAARP. Here is an article I had in my bookmarked and its still there at my surprise. I was looking for more about haarp, when I finished some books on Nikola Tesla. Here is a quote that implies HAARP used to "mess" with our magnetosphere.

I have been to the magnetosphere simulation site and it seems the magnetosphere is all back to normal. It was just a hiccup. No sign of reversal polarity. Probably caused by solar activities like EMP and solar flares.
Hello Steven...

Yes I hear you and I fully understand your research. However I don't think either Haarp or something along those lines would cause such a huge anomolie as I posted on post 6 on this thread.

If you think of in terms of the flow of the magnetosphere, which is huge!!

A small haarp blast would not create such an event. It looks to me like a very large magnetic pull away from earth, which has affected the flow of this and disruption to the M to the extent you have twisted M waves.

I am looking at further anomolies. So I will keep you posted.

Thanks for your research.

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Old 02-10-2010, 03:00 PM   #27
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Hello Steven...

Yes I hear you and I fully understand your research. However I don't think either Haarp or something along those lines would cause such a huge anomolie as I posted on post 6 on this thread...
I don't think either HAARP would cause it. I mentioned HAARP because it came to my mind about the possibility of a hidden purpose for this project to 'play' with the magnetosphere. It was a little bit beside the topic, I concur.

I rather think it is caused by solar activities and wouldn't be surprise to compare with other events of this type in the past.

If it were in fact the sign of a reversal of polarities, it would be progressive and permanent, as usual, my opinion. If it is caused by an outside body or some cosmical waves, then the phenomenon would be observable to other planets... If indeed it is the case, it is a possibility, wouldn't the effect constant and increasing in some ways, like a sinusoidal progression?

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Old 02-10-2010, 03:55 PM   #28
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I rather think it is caused by solar activities and wouldn't be surprise to compare with other events of this type in the past.

If it were in fact the sign of a reversal of polarities, it would be progressive and permanent, as usual, my opinion. If it is caused by an outside body or some cosmical waves, then the phenomenon would be observable to other planets... If indeed it is the case, it is a possibility, wouldn't the effect constant and increasing in some ways, like a sinusoidal progression?

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Hello Steven

Yes we have had disturbances in the past by the sun but the effect have not been so dramatic I believe...

Yes we have had all sort of anomolies on other planets as well whilst the momentum picks up!!

When you say the effect would be constant and increasing that depends on what side of the sun the 'Body' is ... and also in relation to the earth would be dependant on the value of Magnetic pull...

I found this whilst doing some research...please note the article was written on October 29, 2009.

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Recently, the magnetic fields has appeared twisted, with the positive outflow immediately going south and the intake, the negative flow, coming down from the north instead of up from the south. What would cause that? Within a 24 hour period from October 28-29 the field went from a normal appearance, to showing that a magneton blast was occurring, to showing a twisted magnetic field.



Recently, on the Magnetic Simulator, the S Pole of Earth temporarily disappeared. We explained that this was an instance of the magnetic field of Earth and Planet X going end-to-end, such that the magnetons from the Earth's N Pole travel to the S Pole of Planet X, avoiding Earth's S Pole altogether. But what would explain the magnetic twist, where Earth's field appears to be heading in the wrong direction entirely, the emissions from the N Pole going directly south, the intake at the S Pole coming directly from the north? Planet X is slightly to the right in a line drawn from the Sun to the Earth, and thus until it has swung its N Pole some 195°, as it has done in a dither at times recently, it will not be pointing directly at the Earth. Most of the time, as it continues to close the gap between itself and the Earth, Planet X will be influencing the Earth's magnetosphere from a point slightly to the side.

The flow of magnetons from the Earth's N Pole continues to try to merge with the flow from Planet X, diverted to the S Pole of Planet X. But as a flow cannot continue without an intake as well as an exit, the S Pole of Earth represents a type of magnetic vacuum, a pull. Thus some magnetons from the N Pole of Planet X, which has a wide field, drift to the S Pole of Earth rather than travel on to the S Pole of Planet X. Why do these magnetons not move directly from the N Pole of Planet X to the S Pole of Earth? Those magnetons in the field close to Planet X are pulled strongly to the S Pole of Planet X, and also do not want to cross the flow of magnetons coming from Earth, joining to form a merged field with Planet X. It is those magnetons which are cast far afield, in the large magnetic field of Planet X, which find they can drift toward the S Pole of Planet X. This is yet another example of the truth of our words. Planet X is slightly to the right of the Sun in the view from Earth, and is pointing its N Pole toward Earth. What else would cause the Earth's magnetic field to twist?

It is a very complex subject but very relevant to my point...

I would like to add I am not trying to fear monger but to inform.

If there is a large body out there heading this way, which would cause extreme disruption to planet Earth, then we all need to prepare for what might be or not!!

We cannot expect the officials to warn us in any way. Why would they?

Hey, Steven why on earth would they build super bunkers here there and everywhere...certainly not to take holidays for!!! (no sarcasm intended)

Somethings cooking!!!!

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Old 02-11-2010, 10:47 PM   #29
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You have to remember that it is a model and can not represent the reality in all aspects or cases.
Because it is a mixed input of
1. fixed input parameters and
2. current measured data.
The fixed inputs are approximations to model the reality and might have been quite good at a specific time, but reality changes. So will the accuracy of the results.

If you would develop a model of a herd of sheep, then you may assume a sheep to be a free mobile round sphere…

Additionally you are getting only quality results out of the modelling, if you are feeding it with quality data sets.
For modelling Earths magnetic field, the International Geomagnetic Reference Field, the IGRF is being used. This data set is being updated regularly every 5 years, last in 2009.

Excerpts from the website:
http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/IAGA/vmod/igrf.html

International Geomagnetic Reference Field
The IGRF is a series of mathematical models of the Earth's main field and its annual rate of change (secular variation). In source-free regions at the Earth's surface and above, the main field, with sources internal to the Earth, is the negative gradient of a scalar potential V which can be represented by a truncated series expansion:
The 11 th Generation IGRF coefficients were computed from candidate sets of coefficients produced by the participating members of IAGA Working Group V-MOD. Their institutes and the many organisations involved in operating magnetic survey satellites, observatories, magnetic survey programmes and World Data Centers are to be thanked for their continuing support of the IGRF project.
The International Geomagnetic Reference Field (IGRF) was introduced by the International Association of Geomagnetism and Aeronomy (IAGA) in 1968 in response to the demand for a standard spherical harmonic representation of the Earth's main field. The model is updated at 5-yearly intervals, the latest being the 11th generation, produced and released by IAGA Working Group V-MOD (formerly V-8) December 2009. The IGRF has achieved worldwide acceptability as a standard and has proved valuable for many applications, BUT INAPPROPRIATE USE COULD SERIOUSLY DAMAGE THE CREDIBILITY OF YOUR RESULTS !

The Earth's magnetic field crudely resembles that of a central dipole. On the Earth's surface the field varies from being horizontal and of magnitude about 30 000 nT near the equator to vertical and about 60 000 nT near the poles; the root mean square (rms) magnitude of the vector over the surface is about 45 000 nT. The internal geomagnetic field also varies in time, on a time-scale of months and longer, in an as yet unpredictable manner. This so-called secular variation (SV) has a complicated spatial pattern, with a global rms magnitude of about 80 nT/year. Consequently, any numerical model of the geomagnetic field has to have coefficients which vary with time.

When using models, to avoid ambiguity you should state explicitly which IGRF Generation you are using; the error estimates in the following discussion refers to the set of models of the 11th Generation


The IGRF is inevitably an imperfect model. Firstly, the numerical coefficients provided will not be correct: the model field produced will differ from the actual field we are trying to model - "errors of commission". Secondly, because of the truncation, the IGRF models represent only the lower spatial frequencies (longer wavelengths) of the field: higher spatial frequency components of the field are not accounted for in our model - "errors of omission". Thirdly, there are also other contributions to the observed field that the IGRF is NOT trying to model
Secular variation
The geomagnetic field does not vary linearly with time but until 2000, except for a few years round 1980, the use of linear interpolation over 5 years does not significantly increase the above rms errors for the main field. From 2000, linear interpolation might lead to increased errors at certain times.
OTHER CONTRIBUTIONS TO THE OBSERVED FIELD
If you measure the magnetic field at a point on the Earth's surface, do not expect to get the value predicted by the IGRF!
Quite apart from the errors discussed above, there might be fixed contributions from buildings, parked cars, etc., and the magnetization of crustal rocks will certainly add its own local, small-scale, field, typically of magnitude 200 nT, but often much larger.
There are also a large variety of time-varying fields, both man-made (traffic, DC electric trains and trams, etc.) and natural (from electric currents in the ionosphere and magnetosphere), and the associated induced fields from currents induced in the conducting earth. The ionospheric and magnetospheric fields occur at time scales mostly ranging from seconds to hours; in "quiet" conditions they may be as small as 20 nT (though enhanced near the geomagnetic equator and over the polar caps), but up to 1000 nT and more during a magnetic storm. On a longer time scale (days to years), the large-scale magnetic field of the external ring current (approximately represented by the Dst index) will give perhaps 1000 nT during and after a magnetic storm.


So, that said, if you see magnetic lines on the North pole, but the lines are not returning to the South pole, then it does not mean that it connects somewhere with NIBIRU. It is because the already existing anomalies of the Earth field are getting amplified by occasional odd dataset measurement of the satellites, which then are triggering the model to display oddities. That’s a proof of the limitations of the model.

World Mag Maps (very interesting):

http://wdc.kugi.kyoto-u.ac.jp/igrf/index.html



Software:

http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/IAGA/vmod/geomag70_windows.zip

Dataset:

http://www.ngdc.noaa.gov/IAGA/vmod/igrf11coeffs.txt


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Old 02-12-2010, 12:16 PM   #30
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Thanks Bashi... I appreciate your research...lots of interesting info...I'll take it in and have a good read...

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Old 02-16-2010, 09:59 AM   #31
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Hey does anyone speak spanish...

Any chance of a brief translation?? Pleeeeeze ...

I know its about the magnetosphere...but I wondered what the main message was?...



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Old 02-16-2010, 11:13 AM   #32
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viking, here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6QMxgWCtls&

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Old 02-16-2010, 01:12 PM   #33
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Thanks Lightblue...

Someone somewhere is watching us!!

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Old 02-18-2010, 09:30 AM   #34
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Hey to those of you that are interested in this topic...look at this weird disruption!!!

Also I would like to add that the existence of extreme pressure on the magnetosphere, in the absence of solar flares can only mean one thing! The presence of another source of pressure! ?? Where from??

http://api.ning.com/files/KXDDcbgjz4....jpg?width=721

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Old 02-18-2010, 10:40 AM   #35
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And Viking you're right about the two Suns from another thread... I received an email with several vids that look quite convincing and a website with plenty of other info.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVB3c...layer_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97vfB...layer_embedded

http://www.2012warning.com/
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Old 02-18-2010, 11:30 AM   #36
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Thanks Christo...very much appreciated...

Nice to see some folks connectiong the dots!!

And thanks for visiting that thread...many truths within the pages!!!

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Old 02-19-2010, 01:11 PM   #37
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Viking, whats your take on this video ?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6QMxgWCtls&

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Old 02-19-2010, 01:24 PM   #38
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Hey Bashi ...

We have that video here on this thread...

It was kindley posted by Lightblue, the previous was in spanish!!

As I said previously... someone somewhere is watching very closely...and maybe tweeking here and there so as we go through a smooth transition!!!

Lets hope Bashi...

If not put your seatbelt on and enjoy the ride!!!

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Old 02-19-2010, 06:42 PM   #39
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I will make a cocoon out of seatbelts ...
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Old 02-19-2010, 11:33 PM   #40
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Just stumbled over this:

http://www.rense.com/general89/fent.htm

..a very big cocoon...
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