How does one deal with the 'boredom' of existence? - Page 2

12-20-2009, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by yellowcosmicseed

I believe that the divine plan is boring and worthless.

(I do suffer from affects of child neglect/abuse and am suspected to be on the autistic spectrum and I want to know if this is a factor to why I have been having the ponderings/conclusions/feelings that I have recorded here.)

Everything began with nothingness/nonexistence (empty space), and then this became aware of itself and it manifested the great I AM. This led to the manifestation of all things that could possibly exist. This was accomplished through the appearance of light and vibration. Everything is made of vibration, and vibration is formless. This is how something comes out of nothing, the nothing uses vibration (made of formlessness) and condenses it to make something. So form is only merely the movement that lingers in the infinitive expanse of space/nonexistence. The purpose of the creation of form is for the 'One' to disidentify itself from all labels and things to go back to the peace state of 'Nonexistence'. Evil, suffering, and trial is used to progress the One back to the Peace state.

This is when I get depressed. Our existence is meant only to experience and combat evil?

............

Nothing should exist, but the truth is:

everything and nothing exists and does not exist at the same time.

After all these realizations I am still depressed. I even have very very convincing evidence of the existence of past lives but I am still depressed. (side note: the abuse that occurred to me occurred in a past life, my father is much better in this life. but me and my father still carry on the effects of abuse laid on both of us. oh the agony...)

i am VERY SORRY for my negativity and let down. i should have posted this on GODLIKEPRODUCTIONS, not AVALON.

I agree on the boring part but no one can say if it is worthless or not.

What makes you think everything began as you describe it? Is this from inside of you or is it one of many believes other people have? Perhaps some "scientific" way, from theoretical physicist, that themselves claim, they do not know what they do? And...you or others or "science"...what makes you so sure that is how it happened?

Everything you build upon this base of "begging" is very...shaky. The same goes for your "depression". It might be just as "fake" as your perception of how things are.

If the what you believe is the problem...it might help you to simply change your believes. If you can not do that...then there is nothing much to be said.

If you do not wish to "battle evil", than simply choose not to battle evil

If you are afraid you will miss the point and purpose in your life...do not be...you might have already missed both.

You being sorry is a waste of time...

I myself have a "similar" problem. I wish to see how far can I implement the concept of free will without binding myself to any "rules". Since most things are based on the concept of free will (including some of the "advices" I gave you) I am somehow "challenging" it...but it is another topic.

About the child abuse: live with it, it is far from easy, I know (I have to)

take care
take risks

kriya · 12-20-2009, 12:16 PM

I'm right there with you yellowcosmicseed, mate!

The bottom line is that we did not ask to be created or suffer like we do. Many great self-realized Masters have argued this very point with God. It's all just a divine show, doesn't cut it with me when I see so many people suffering. And how boring is it going round and round in bleeding circles.

I'll leave you with a quote from the Gospel of Thomas:

Jesus Said:

Let he who seeks
remain always seeking
until he finds,
and when he finds
he will be troubled,
having been troubled,
he will marvel,
he will reign over All.

Love,
Kriya

TRANCOSO · 12-20-2009, 01:16 PM

Ian Dury ones sang-said:

"Sex & drugs & rock and roll
Is all my brain & body need
Sex & drugs & rock & roll
Is very good indeed!"

Boredom is decadent. When I'm truly bored I pop in a sleeping pill & within seconds/minutes I'm in 'dreamstate'. And let me tell you, I'm a happy dreamer!
I consider the period that I'm dreaming as big a part of existence, as 'realtime' life.

I have a wonderful life, because that's what I demand from God.
MY God, that is.
My own, personal Jesus, so to speak.

I have a very wise & funny Guardian Angel by the name of Charlotte who leads me with a ferme, though gentle, hand & whom I trust with my life.
So I'm mainly living on instinct.

I've been extremely lucky with my looks & interlect & I exploit both to the max.

Let love rule!

Scarab · 12-20-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TRANCOSO

I've been extremely lucky with my looks & interlect

Interlect. That's funny.

WinterWolf · 12-24-2009, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by kriya

I'm right there with you yellowcosmicseed, mate!

The bottom line is that we did not ask to be created or suffer like we do. Many great self-realized Masters have argued this very point with God. It's all just a divine show, doesn't cut it with me when I see so many people suffering. And how boring is it going round and round in bleeding circles.

I'll leave you with a quote from the Gospel of Thomas:

Jesus Said:

Let he who seeks
remain always seeking
until he finds,
and when he finds
he will be troubled,
having been troubled,
he will marvel,
he will reign over All.

Love,
Kriya

Just out of curiosity, how do you know we never asked to be created to suffer the way we do? Who are these great self-realized Masters that you speak of that have argued this point with God?

Winter Wolf

kriya · 12-24-2009, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by WinterWolf

Just out of curiosity, how do you know we never asked to be created to suffer the way we do? Who are these great self-realized Masters that you speak of that have argued this point with God?

Winter Wolf

Paramhansa Yogananda, Lahiri Mashaha, Babaji, Sri Yukteswar who are the Gurus of the Self-Realization fellowship.

Several stories in PY's writings mention this, e.g Autobiography of a Yogi., Man's Eternal Quest and Journey's to Self-Realization to name but a few.

Love,

Kriya

WinterWolf · 12-24-2009, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by kriya

Paramhansa Yogananda, Lahiri Mashaha, Babaji, Sri Yukteswar who are the Gurus of the Self-Realization fellowship.

Several stories in PY's writings mention this, e.g Autobiography of a Yogi., Man's Eternal Quest and Journey's to Self-Realization to name but a few.

Love,

Kriya

Thank you. I may have to look this up.

Winter Wolf

greybeard · 12-24-2009, 10:32 AM

Dr David Hawkins had blissfull expeiences as a teenager yet became an athiest because the total suffering of mankind throughout all of history was revealed to him. He could not believe in a God who created suffering.

He hit rock bottom and in the depth of his personal hell cried out "If there is a God I ask him to save me" He says that the thought of passing Arkangel lifted him from that place into the enlightened state.

In that state he knew that God did not create suffering, God is LOVE, the ego created suffering.
Through having free will we got led away from our Creator.
95% of the history of the human race is one of conflict, through our ignorance we have created a nightmare. We are now comiing out of it bepole are becoming spiritually awakened.
Jesus on the cross said. "God forgive them for they know not what they do"
With that we are forgiven too.
We have been spiritually asleep, if we knew better we would have done better.
The ego is not an enemy, just self serving, so to be looked on with compassion

I think most seekers go through dark nights of the soul, seeking is not easy.

Anyway I hope this helps.

Chris

Anchor · 12-22-2009, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by yellowcosmicseed

Nothing should exist, but the truth is:

everything and nothing exists and does not exist at the same time.

After all these realizations I am still depressed. I even have very very convincing evidence of the existence of past lives but I am still depressed. (side note: the abuse that occurred to me occurred in a past life, my father is much better in this life. but me and my father still carry on the effects of abuse laid on both of us. oh the agony...)

i am VERY SORRY for my negativity and let down. i should have posted this on GODLIKEPRODUCTIONS, not AVALON.

Repeat after me: "I am a human being god-damn it, my opinions have value!"

Why: because they do.

You are welcome to post here. I hope that it helps.

Its not all about combating this and that.

One of the nicer things about being alive is "bliss".

Can you recall a moment of sheer wonder and bliss?

A..

orthodoxymoron · 12-20-2009, 03:23 PM

Life is defined by game-playing. We are all playing different games (some overlap). We need challenges. But pain and boredom are probably part of the deal. They are the cost of doing business in the universe. I don't have the answer. I've been living a life of quiet desperation for a long time. I get a lot of the theory...but seem to find it impossible to put into practice. Maybe I'll figure it out in my next lifetime. Just try playing different games...and see what happens. Good-luck.

Namaste

tpmputterman · 12-21-2009, 04:16 AM

I feel very bored myself!!! I think my lesson in this personality for me has been to awken to the truth of ones self and the world.

I still feel like you, confused in the process. I feel like I understand the purpose of the process, but don't really agree with it all the time.

Why should I have to deal with this level of existence because I want so much to learn and grow at others levels where money, hate ect.. don't exist.

I often ask myself to take me away because I am ready to go, very ready to move on "so to speak" I feel bored as you do!!!!!!!!!!!

Sometimes I wonder even though most of my thoughts are good and I have gotten away from fear, hate, judgement ect... for the most part, what does it even matter??? Because I still have to deal with money problems, mood swings ect... I used to think that the better my mind the better my life got.
Latlet my mind is better but my life around me suffers and I ask why??

Thats the part that I am most confused and bored with

yellowcosmicseed · 12-21-2009, 07:13 PM

I feel that the type of society that we currently live in will soon dissipate. Many people are waking up. I also look at the great demoralization, desensitization, the mass disorder, and selfishness that is going on. This makes me think that change is absolutely needed and is inevitable to occur. And there is no need to wait, because change occurs NOW in the moment. One does not have to wait to feel fulfilled, fulfillment and true happiness has always resided within us ever since our conception, and it is just waiting for each and every one of us to discover the inner self and to bring upon the liberation of mankind on earth. One that is in one of the worst of situations can still remain at peace inside, and once that suffering one achieves recognition of the spirit, then they are much more likely to become 'liberated' from their sufferings. Though the process is not an easy one.

Majorion · 12-21-2009, 07:36 PM

Good question, I don't know the answer, other than to say...

Just deal with that boredom, know that you're not alone by any measure, and find something to fill the time.

You know I wish I were bored but never seemingly have the time. Every 5 minutes theres something to call up.

Peace of mind · 12-21-2009, 08:40 PM

Sounds like you’re in the beginning stages of awakening. Waking up from a long deep slumber often leaves you feeling groggy and confused. It passes…

Boredom dosen't exist for me anymore...not since I took control of my ship.

make it happen Captain

Peace

alchemikey · 12-21-2009, 11:52 PM

find your passion...follow your bliss
share your gift...boredom will shift

peace,
mikey

Leunamros · 12-22-2009, 12:40 AM

I have to deal with serious boredom syndrome.

My passion was truth seeking. And, nowadays, there is nothing to be found out there, or in the internet. I know everything, and this planet is small for me, that´s all folks, life is hard...

Nothing humans ofer here or there is of any interest as i know it already or its outcome is predictable by my great intelligence, so...

I need to see beyond this boring planet, with boring people, with boring 2012 syndrome.

WinterWolf · 12-24-2009, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Leunamros

I have to deal with serious boredom syndrome.

My passion was truth seeking. And, nowadays, there is nothing to be found out there, or in the internet. I know everything, and this planet is small for me, that´s all folks, life is hard...

Nothing humans ofer here or there is of any interest as i know it already or its outcome is predictable by my great intelligence, so...

I need to see beyond this boring planet, with boring people, with boring 2012 syndrome.

Either this is a big tongue in cheek post or you are actually serious about this.

If this is a serious post then what is the point of you being on here or anywhere? If you think you know everything already then you have stopped growing or learning in any meaningful way...

Do you think you could give me the winning Megamillion lottery numbers for the next couple of decades to come? I think I could feed a lot of people with that sort of wealth.

Winter Wolf

mikey · 12-24-2009, 10:55 AM

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...dom+of+choice#

it is all a choice and there are no coincidences....your boredom and/or self proclaimed pessimissm along with your elated states of bliss and/or everyday demeanor is a choice on your behalf of the way you wish to experience the situation presented infront of you. despite what u have endured in the past, including past lives, the situation today and tomoro provides an opportunity to address the experience with a frame of mind and a way of being only you can determine right there and then.
you are bored simply bcos u choose to be...imo

love and blessings
peace always
mikey

kriya · 12-24-2009, 11:11 AM

Just to clarify what I mean by suffering. Although God doesn't create suffering, He, himself doesn't suffer, He isn't affected by karma or suffering, like we are. We should view life like God does, as a huge cosmic drama.

However,IMO, I think a better way to view it is to say, that God does suffer through each of us as we suffer because He is part of us. I know anyone reading this will think its a complete contradiction, but the mysreries of life cannot be fathomed by rational thought, it goes beyond thought.

But for me, I take issue with the whole set up. If God doesn't have karma or suffering then nor should we.

Love,

Kriya

greybeard · 12-24-2009, 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kriya

Just to clarify what I mean by suffering. Although God doesn't create suffering, He, himself doesn't suffer, He isn't affected by karma or suffering, like we are. We should view life like God does, as a huge cosmic drama.

However,IMO, I think a better way to view it is to say, that God does suffer through each of us as we suffer because He is part of us. I know anyone reading this will think its a complete contradiction, but the mysreries of life cannot be fathomed by rational thought, it goes beyond thought.

But for me, I take issue with the whole set up. If God doesn't have karma or suffering then nor should we.

Love,

Kriya

Hi Kriya
On occasion I have felt like you that the human race has a raw deal.
However we dont have to suffer if we realise that there are consequences for our actions and that is part of karma.
One guru on being asked why a certain pair were in the condition they were in.
The blind one pusing the wheel chair of the crippled one.
The reply. They were torturers in a past life. One blinded prisoners the other broke legs, so this could be described as pergetory (Earth) a chance to learn from previous mistakes. Even though the self dosent remember past lives the higher Self know exactly what went on and will bring about situations for the self to make right and evolve.
self is coming to know that it is Self. Self realization
Thats the essence of it as I understand it.
Rgards Chris

Scarab · 12-25-2009, 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kriya

Just to clarify what I mean by suffering. Although God doesn't create suffering, He, himself doesn't suffer, He isn't affected by karma or suffering, like we are. We should view life like God does, as a huge cosmic drama.

However,IMO, I think a better way to view it is to say, that God does suffer through each of us as we suffer because He is part of us. I know anyone reading this will think its a complete contradiction, but the mysreries of life cannot be fathomed by rational thought, it goes beyond thought.

But for me, I take issue with the whole set up. If God doesn't have karma or suffering then nor should we.

Love,

Kriya

This will twist your mind.

What if GOD does have to deal with karma, but we don't? Maybe that's why He doesn't get involved in our affairs and lets us suffer the consequences of our free will.

WinterWolf · 12-25-2009, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Scarab

This will twist your mind.

What if GOD does have to deal with karma, but we don't? Maybe that's why He doesn't get involved in our affairs and lets us suffer the consequences of our free will.

Hm. A very interesting twist indeed. I like it.

Winter Wolf

Leunamros · 12-24-2009, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by WinterWolf

Either this is a big tongue in cheek post or you are actually serious about this.

If this is a serious post then what is the point of you being on here or anywhere? If you think you know everything already then you have stopped growing or learning in any meaningful way...

Do you think you could give me the winning Megamillion lottery numbers for the next couple of decades to come? I think I could feed a lot of people with that sort of wealth.

Winter Wolf

Im actually serious with a bit of sense of humour included. My point in being here is keep looking, if there is anything new worth considering. Right now, and since it´s foundation, there isn´t anything useful yet (for me). This kinds of places gives an slight opportunity to see things we haven´t yet seen humans do. They are not based on official institutions.

I havent stopped learning, or growing, that never ends, but, what happens in my case is that what 99,9999% of what people offers, i already know, or it´s useless. We are living in a limited planet, with a limited number of people over it, that´s why this can happen.

UncleJohn · 12-24-2009, 12:10 PM

Actually it is very easy to deal with the 'boredom' of existence.

Just go to a forum like project avalon and start a troll thread with the title this one has.

Watch everyone trying to solve your problem for you.

I would also suggest getting an ant farm for entertainment.

Leunamros · 12-24-2009, 12:14 PM

this is not a troll thread, at least for me.

12-20-2009, 12:16 PM	#2
kriya Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 213	Re: How does one deal with the 'boredom' of existence? I'm right there with you yellowcosmicseed, mate! The bottom line is that we did not ask to be created or suffer like we do. Many great self-realized Masters have argued this very point with God. It's all just a divine show, doesn't cut it with me when I see so many people suffering. And how boring is it going round and round in bleeding circles. I'll leave you with a quote from the Gospel of Thomas: Jesus Said: Let he who seeks remain always seeking until he finds, and when he finds he will be troubled, having been troubled, he will marvel, he will reign over All. Love, Kriya

12-20-2009, 01:16 PM	#3
TRANCOSO Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Amsterdam Posts: 964	Re: How does one deal with the 'boredom' of existence? Ian Dury ones sang-said: "Sex & drugs & rock and roll Is all my brain & body need Sex & drugs & rock & roll Is very good indeed!" Boredom is decadent. When I'm truly bored I pop in a sleeping pill & within seconds/minutes I'm in 'dreamstate'. And let me tell you, I'm a happy dreamer! I consider the period that I'm dreaming as big a part of existence, as 'realtime' life. I have a wonderful life, because that's what I demand from God. MY God, that is. My own, personal Jesus, so to speak. I have a very wise & funny Guardian Angel by the name of Charlotte who leads me with a ferme, though gentle, hand & whom I trust with my life. So I'm mainly living on instinct. I've been extremely lucky with my looks & interlect & I exploit both to the max. Let love rule! Last edited by TRANCOSO; 12-20-2009 at 01:39 PM.

12-24-2009, 10:32 AM	#8
greybeard Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Inverness Scotland Posts: 924	Re: How does one deal with the 'boredom' of existence? Dr David Hawkins had blissfull expeiences as a teenager yet became an athiest because the total suffering of mankind throughout all of history was revealed to him. He could not believe in a God who created suffering. He hit rock bottom and in the depth of his personal hell cried out "If there is a God I ask him to save me" He says that the thought of passing Arkangel lifted him from that place into the enlightened state. In that state he knew that God did not create suffering, God is LOVE, the ego created suffering. Through having free will we got led away from our Creator. 95% of the history of the human race is one of conflict, through our ignorance we have created a nightmare. We are now comiing out of it bepole are becoming spiritually awakened. Jesus on the cross said. "God forgive them for they know not what they do" With that we are forgiven too. We have been spiritually asleep, if we knew better we would have done better. The ego is not an enemy, just self serving, so to be looked on with compassion I think most seekers go through dark nights of the soul, seeking is not easy. Anyway I hope this helps. Chris

12-20-2009, 03:23 PM	#10
orthodoxymoron Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Lunar Base II Posts: 3,093	Re: How does one deal with the 'boredom' of existence? Life is defined by game-playing. We are all playing different games (some overlap). We need challenges. But pain and boredom are probably part of the deal. They are the cost of doing business in the universe. I don't have the answer. I've been living a life of quiet desperation for a long time. I get a lot of the theory...but seem to find it impossible to put into practice. Maybe I'll figure it out in my next lifetime. Just try playing different games...and see what happens. Good-luck. Namaste Last edited by orthodoxymoron; 12-20-2009 at 03:38 PM.

12-21-2009, 04:16 AM	#11
tpmputterman Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 20	Re: How does one deal with the 'boredom' of existence? I feel very bored myself!!! I think my lesson in this personality for me has been to awken to the truth of ones self and the world. I still feel like you, confused in the process. I feel like I understand the purpose of the process, but don't really agree with it all the time. Why should I have to deal with this level of existence because I want so much to learn and grow at others levels where money, hate ect.. don't exist. I often ask myself to take me away because I am ready to go, very ready to move on "so to speak" I feel bored as you do!!!!!!!!!!! Sometimes I wonder even though most of my thoughts are good and I have gotten away from fear, hate, judgement ect... for the most part, what does it even matter??? Because I still have to deal with money problems, mood swings ect... I used to think that the better my mind the better my life got. Latlet my mind is better but my life around me suffers and I ask why?? Thats the part that I am most confused and bored with

12-21-2009, 07:13 PM	#12
yellowcosmicseed Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 26	Re: How does one deal with the 'boredom' of existence? I feel that the type of society that we currently live in will soon dissipate. Many people are waking up. I also look at the great demoralization, desensitization, the mass disorder, and selfishness that is going on. This makes me think that change is absolutely needed and is inevitable to occur. And there is no need to wait, because change occurs NOW in the moment. One does not have to wait to feel fulfilled, fulfillment and true happiness has always resided within us ever since our conception, and it is just waiting for each and every one of us to discover the inner self and to bring upon the liberation of mankind on earth. One that is in one of the worst of situations can still remain at peace inside, and once that suffering one achieves recognition of the spirit, then they are much more likely to become 'liberated' from their sufferings. Though the process is not an easy one.

12-21-2009, 07:36 PM	#13
Majorion Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: ∞ Posts: 654	Re: How does one deal with the 'boredom' of existence? Good question, I don't know the answer, other than to say... Just deal with that boredom, know that you're not alone by any measure, and find something to fill the time. You know I wish I were bored but never seemingly have the time. Every 5 minutes theres something to call up.

12-21-2009, 08:40 PM	#14
Peace of mind Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The uncharted consciousness Posts: 311	Re: How does one deal with the 'boredom' of existence? Sounds like you’re in the beginning stages of awakening. Waking up from a long deep slumber often leaves you feeling groggy and confused. It passes… Boredom dosen't exist for me anymore...not since I took control of my ship. make it happen Captain Peace

12-21-2009, 11:52 PM	#15
alchemikey Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: wherever consciousness is Posts: 357	Re: How does one deal with the 'boredom' of existence? find your passion...follow your bliss share your gift...boredom will shift peace, mikey

12-22-2009, 12:40 AM	#16
Leunamros Project Avalon Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 145	Re: How does one deal with the 'boredom' of existence? I have to deal with serious boredom syndrome. My passion was truth seeking. And, nowadays, there is nothing to be found out there, or in the internet. I know everything, and this planet is small for me, that´s all folks, life is hard... Nothing humans ofer here or there is of any interest as i know it already or its outcome is predictable by my great intelligence, so... I need to see beyond this boring planet, with boring people, with boring 2012 syndrome.

12-24-2009, 10:55 AM	#18
mikey Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 228	Re: How does one deal with the 'boredom' of existence? http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...dom+of+choice# it is all a choice and there are no coincidences....your boredom and/or self proclaimed pessimissm along with your elated states of bliss and/or everyday demeanor is a choice on your behalf of the way you wish to experience the situation presented infront of you. despite what u have endured in the past, including past lives, the situation today and tomoro provides an opportunity to address the experience with a frame of mind and a way of being only you can determine right there and then. you are bored simply bcos u choose to be...imo love and blessings peace always mikey

12-24-2009, 11:11 AM	#19
kriya Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: UK Posts: 213	Re: How does one deal with the 'boredom' of existence? Just to clarify what I mean by suffering. Although God doesn't create suffering, He, himself doesn't suffer, He isn't affected by karma or suffering, like we are. We should view life like God does, as a huge cosmic drama. However,IMO, I think a better way to view it is to say, that God does suffer through each of us as we suffer because He is part of us. I know anyone reading this will think its a complete contradiction, but the mysreries of life cannot be fathomed by rational thought, it goes beyond thought. But for me, I take issue with the whole set up. If God doesn't have karma or suffering then nor should we. Love, Kriya

12-24-2009, 12:10 PM	#24
UncleJohn Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Los Altos California Posts: 112	Re: How does one deal with the 'boredom' of existence? Actually it is very easy to deal with the 'boredom' of existence. Just go to a forum like project avalon and start a troll thread with the title this one has. Watch everyone trying to solve your problem for you. I would also suggest getting an ant farm for entertainment.

12-24-2009, 12:14 PM	#25
Leunamros Project Avalon Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 145	Re: How does one deal with the 'boredom' of existence? this is not a troll thread, at least for me.