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Old 10-29-2009, 06:30 AM   #1
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The two pillars to me represent duality, relative opposites, left vs. right, democrat vs. republican, christianity vs. islam, communism vs. capitalism, relative good vs. relative evil.

These are the two pillars of masonry: BOAZ and JACHIN.

As long as people pick one side to define themselves in, the matrix wins.

The zombie types walking around these two poles, is US when we continue to pick sides and define ourselves based on relative opposites.

Oneness is the only reality.

We must transcend taking sides to Be One with the truth. Take the middle Way doesn't mean take the middle between two relative opposites, it means take the path of truth without being pulled to one of the extremes, beyond believing we have an outer enemy or are superior to others.

Take the middle Way means to transcend the relative opposites, cease ego identification and Be the servant of all because you recognize your inherent Oneness with all. Then all shall be given unto you.
I have to say, I don't believe or agree with any of the above, except "cease ego identification". I recognize that as good advice.
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Old 10-30-2009, 01:50 AM   #2
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"cease ego identification". I recognize that as good advice.
Well, then we agree on the heart of the issue .


I often find it is best when we can find the things we agree on rather than the things we disagree on and build on that. (but not always the best at following my own advice


The two pillars in masonry I was suggesting are used to control the population. Choose one or the other, separation, either way, you lose and your light continues to feed the matrix. Only when your eye is single (beyond duality) will you see clearly, only when you see the only begotten son of the father, the Christ consciousness, lives in all things.


As for Jesus message being simple, in some ways I agree, sure love your neighbor is the critical component.

However, is that truly all there was to his message or is there infinitely more? Did he not say "There are many things I wish to tell you but you are not ready for them yet" 2000 years ago? Is it possible there is more to truth and more to Jesus message than what we have come to believe? Did Jesus not say he would be with us until the end of the age? Is it possible he has more to share with us today?

Interesting questions nonetheless...
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Old 10-30-2009, 09:42 AM   #3
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The two pillars in masonry I was suggesting are used to control the population. Choose one or the other, separation, either way, you lose and your light continues to feed the matrix. Only when your eye is single (beyond duality) will you see clearly, only when you see the only begotten son of the father, the Christ consciousness, lives in all things.

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You are, IMO, 100% correct. Here are the 2 pillars that were used to control on a global scale:

Notice the sun in the centre ...

The old matrix TRICK of choosing the red or blue pill is just that. A trick. By choosing eithjer you are playing the game. Holding yourself in duality. Choose neither and you control the game.

To have full 360 vision/perception one must view all with a PI eye as in PI-rate with the patch over one eye. PI - being a circle, 360 degrees.
The ALL seeing eye.
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Old 10-29-2009, 12:02 PM   #4
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The two pillars to me represent duality, relative opposites, left vs. right, democrat vs. republican, christianity vs. islam, communism vs. capitalism, relative good vs. relative evil.

These are the two pillars of masonry: BOAZ and JACHIN.

As long as people pick one side to define themselves in, the matrix wins.

The zombie types walking around these two poles, is US when we continue to pick sides and define ourselves based on relative opposites.

Oneness is the only reality.

We must transcend taking sides to Be One with the truth. Take the middle Way doesn't mean take the middle between two relative opposites, it means take the path of truth without being pulled to one of the extremes, beyond believing we have an outer enemy or are superior to others.

Take the middle Way means to transcend the relative opposites, cease ego identification and Be the servant of all because you recognize your inherent Oneness with all. Then all shall be given unto you.

Masonry is all into symbols and hidden (occult)...
They like to pretend that they "know"...in order to awe and enslave.
Many did not wanted to agree or follow Jesus, why?
Because his words were as sharp as razor and as sweet as honey to suffering souls.
His message was of his father and it was a crystal clear one.
He was not just a conscience, he was a heavenly spririt ,first born creature of the Creator, who was embodied 2000 years ago. After his teaching time toward mankind he returned to the glory prepared for him as king of kings and lord of lords. His name was being exalted above any other but his own father´s name .
Also he stated that there are mansions prepared for us to inherit them one day in the future, when we grow up finally and when we take our inherritance forever.
Who knows then where is the final frontier of our experience and research towards universe, or is there any frontier at all for ones who stood for truth and Christ and God.
We are now in the "school" of life and I hope so that we will pass the test and wholeheartedly grow towards our true being, God´s children.

Again , Christ ´s words are perfectly clear and also his statements about scripture before and after him.
It is up to us to read them, learn from him, to see through the mist of philosophy... Really nothing is complictaed when you see through the veil.
Truth is simple when you look it through Christ ´s eyes, but in order to look through his eyes you have to surrender your ego, lusts,human wisdom, evil deeds, selfishness, hatred and lie.
Old person that was you has to "die" so the new one be born in Christ´s liking.

Truly when we kick off that old person there is a struggle, a fight of this world, our weakness and other factors such as Satan and his crew in order that we stop the process of Christ enlightening and return to oblivion, to return to death way of life.

Here is the key moment of the divine gift of free will.
Namely we can choose either we are growing up in love and wisdom and other things or we choose to fall down in spiral of fear and its consequences.

Choose wisely, and be responsible of you choice.
What you sow that you reap.
It is that simple.

Choose love and reap beautiful fruits of Heavenly Love...
This is the most important thing, forget the fancy technolgy, remote viewing, UFO´s , stargates,saucers, other planets, reptilians, pleadians,andromedans, greys, illuminati,masons,voodoo, inner teachings of various "gurus", forget about miracles of technology in all levels since none of that is as important of the core matter of our soul.

Now we create our foundation, it can be of light ,love and wisdom of our Creator and his son or it can be of lie and deception .

When you have foundation of love , light and wisdom of God - all other things in the future will be kids playground for us. If we have our heart and soul on right place on real foundation , all then will be possible for us just as everything is possible for God and WE are God´s children...


Love and blessings,

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Old 10-29-2009, 01:03 PM   #5
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I agree with you Beren.
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Old 10-28-2009, 08:40 AM   #6
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m1, as you asked for an honest opinion, let me try to elaborate my (subjective) view of your dream, as I’ve had a similar (similar in interpretation) dream.

I think that you were shown the changes that lay ahead of the humanity. Did you ever consider to let the story with the church (or religion) by side and interpret this as a kind of awakening of the whole humanity? I guess this is exactly what you saw in your dream: you saw the Christ energy working thru YOU, which also means that you are almost ready to accept the necessary changes in our DNA in order to become “Christ”. (I bolded Christ, as it means not to become Christian, but that very being that we actually are...the very essential part of our “Father, the Creator”). I guess, this is why you saw the radiating light in your dream too...this represent that powerful life force which surround us and which will bring the necessary changes.

About my dream, if I may post it here


I was taken (by someone I didn’t see, but which presence was undeniable and VERY present) on the top of a hill over a city. It could’ve been my birth city, but I didn’t felt the necessity to consider this as an important fact. I could’ve been anywhere else. Anyway, suddenly, I was shown a radiating light beam, coming from the sky directly down to the city and “the presence” explained to me (without words) that this beam will change us for good. It was a wonderful, multi coloured, mostly white-bluish light...

Then I wished to go down to the city so that I can see the results of the “change” and I was immediately brought there. What I saw surprised me (in my dream)...I saw just an ordinary people like we’re today, and I had to realise that the one that changed was...only ME !!! It was not the other changed, but me...I felt different, but not superior. All of a sudden, there came a man with a big, really big dog. All other jumped away and were really frightened, and the man told me I should better move away, as the dog can not endure the presence of any people. At that moment, I smiled at him and just told him that I’m different and that his dog will like me. I stood there, talking to this dog thru my heart, asking him to come to me. And to the biggest surprise of all (remember, I could feel their feelings), the big dog came straight to me and we gave us a wonderful, big huge. We loved us immeasurable, beyond any (known to me) degree.
The only thing that disturbed me in this dream: altough I was very happy about the changes and the powers I felt in me, I somehow had the feeling of sadness that the other people (still) couldn’t feel what I felt. I felt a kind of embracement about this.


Anyway...

I clearly see similarities between your dream and mine...in my opinion; we were shown the coming changes on the spiritual level...no matter of any possible earth changes. We were shown that this higher consciousness (which surround us, but we still do not feel and see), is here and almost reachable for all of us. We saw the Christ consciousness in its own beauty, with all powers and love that sustain inside.
We both saw or felt the presence of Christ, no matter what his name is.

Please consider that I’ve been raised as a Christian, but I consider myself being over that separated state of being a member of any particular religion...there’s no need for that, the separation is just an illusion.

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I think that you were shown the changes that lay ahead of the humanity. Did you ever consider to let the story with the church (or religion) by side and interpret this as a kind of awakening of the whole humanity? I guess this is exactly what you saw in your dream: you saw the Christ energy working thru YOU, which also means that you are almost ready to accept the necessary changes in our DNA in order to become “Christ”. (I bolded Christ, as it means not to become Christian, but that very being that we actually are...the very essential part of our “Father, the Creator”). I guess, this is why you saw the radiating light in your dream too...this represent that powerful life force which surround us and which will bring the necessary changes.

About my dream, if I may post it here
I don't think it is possible to become "Christ". However, in the Bible Jesus did say that we will become "like" him. That is to say that all of the miracles he performed on earth, we will have those abilities. Nevertheless, I believe that to be a different concept than becoming Christ. There is only one Christ in Christianity -- and that is Jesus.

Therefore, I would think that by becoming rejuvenated, as I was in the dream, it was because I looked to the well of light. I didn't even have to go "to" it, it was that powerful I just "looked" at it and I was rejuvenated and filled with life. I was trying to get INTO the black well, face first an everything - and even with great effort I couldn't get in. So I think that is a representation that the light and the life is much more powerful.

When I touched those people on the shoulder, I don't believe that I had any special power or energy. I believe it was just symbolic of passing on the message that Jesus is Lord. But in any case, the good news is that everyone in that building was rejuvenated.

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I was taken (by someone I didn’t see, but which presence was undeniable and VERY present) on the top of a hill over a city. It could’ve been my birth city, but I didn’t felt the necessity to consider this as an important fact. I could’ve been anywhere else. Anyway, suddenly, I was shown a radiating light beam, coming from the sky directly down to the city and “the presence” explained to me (without words) that this beam will change us for good. It was a wonderful, multi coloured, mostly white-bluish light...

Then I wished to go down to the city so that I can see the results of the “change” and I was immediately brought there. What I saw surprised me (in my dream)...I saw just an ordinary people like we’re today, and I had to realise that the one that changed was...only ME !!! It was not the other changed, but me...I felt different, but not superior. All of a sudden, there came a man with a big, really big dog. All other jumped away and were really frightened, and the man told me I should better move away, as the dog can not endure the presence of any people. At that moment, I smiled at him and just told him that I’m different and that his dog will like me. I stood there, talking to this dog thru my heart, asking him to come to me. And to the biggest surprise of all (remember, I could feel their feelings), the big dog came straight to me and we gave us a wonderful, big huge. We loved us immeasurable, beyond any (known to me) degree.
The only thing that disturbed me in this dream: altough I was very happy about the changes and the powers I felt in me, I somehow had the feeling of sadness that the other people (still) couldn’t feel what I felt. I felt a kind of embracement about this.
I am not sure what to make of this dream. Nothing comes to mind - right off the bat. But if it does, I will post about it.

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Anyway...

I clearly see similarities between your dream and mine...in my opinion; we were shown the coming changes on the spiritual level...no matter of any possible earth changes. We were shown that this higher consciousness (which surround us, but we still do not feel and see), is here and almost reachable for all of us. We saw the Christ consciousness in its own beauty, with all powers and love that sustain inside.
We both saw or felt the presence of Christ, no matter what his name is.

Please consider that I’ve been raised as a Christian, but I consider myself being over that separated state of being a member of any particular religion...there’s no need for that, the separation is just an illusion.

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I never knew what it was like to be raised in a church. I never was, and to be quite frank - I'm thankful of that. There are some very nice people getting around, who attend "church", but I think (for the most part) these religions do more harm than good in a lot of cases.

I have branches of my family that are brought up in Churches. I look at them now, posting on facebook -- prosperity preaching and televangelists, etc. I just shake my head.

When I was 14 (when I started reading the Bible), I was a little horror. I was cheeky. I wouldn't do as I was told. I did the opposite of what everyone wanted me to do. Never went to school. Got sent out of class 50 times a week. Detentions every other day. You name it. Even someone like ME managed to understand that religion is a farce -- so I don't know how these people, who spent their whole lives in church still can't understand the whole point of the Bible.

edit This is also why I am not too hard with cheeky little brats who wont do as they're told. I was a cheeky (opinionated) little brat and I didn't turn out too bad. However, I also got my fare share of "discipline" - my dad didn't muck around, let me tell you - lol

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Thank you for sharing your dream M1.


I like the message it conveys that I will translate if you don't mind in the words of the Atheist that I am. When you are filled with Love you can turn shadows into Light.
As an additionnal thought would you have gone back to that first well once you felt rejuvenated you might have realized
that it no longer repelled you and even that it's aspect itself would have changed.
Then the overweight woman that felt repulsion at your sight might have completely accepted
your light.
Maybe...

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Thank you for sharing your dream M1.


I like the message it conveys that I will translate if you don't mind in the words of the Atheist that I am. When you are filled with Love you can turn shadows into Light.
As an additionnal thought would you have gone back to that first well once you felt rejuvenated you might have realized
that it no longer repelled you and even that it's aspect itself would have changed.
Then the overweight woman that felt repulsion at your sight might have completely accepted
your light.
Maybe...

Love Always
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Interesting interpreation Mudra. I like "When you are filled with Love you can turn shadows into Light." and the potentials for helping the last woman. Overcome our own repulsion, and then maybe that will reflect back as others overcoming theirs. Of course, free will being the primary contributing factor, meaning the woman may or may not decide to do so, but we will be regardless at peace with all and have fulfilled our highest potential.
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When you are filled with Love you can turn shadows into Light.
As an additional thought would you have gone back to that first well once you felt rejuvenated you might have realized
that it no longer repelled you and even that it's aspect itself would have changed.
Then the overweight woman that felt repulsion at your sight might have completely accepted
your light.
Maybe...
Interesting interpretation Mudra. I like "When you are filled with Love you can turn shadows into Light." and the potentials for helping the last woman. Overcome our own repulsion, and then maybe that will reflect back as others overcoming theirs. Of course, free will being the primary contributing factor, meaning the woman may or may not decide to do so, but we will be regardless at peace with all and have fulfilled our highest potential.
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