I am calling out Dan Burisch - Page 2

tone3jaguar · 07-31-2009, 04:14 PM

Uh Oh, the exchanger just emailed this link to me, it seems as though we have all been had by Burisch for quite some time. Others have apparently done their homework. I now feel sorry for David Wilcock because his relationship with Dan Burisch is now going probably cause him some issues.

CLICK HERE FOR INVESTIGATIVE REPORT ABOUT "DR." DAN BURISCH

Reader · 07-31-2009, 05:23 PM

Nice work Jag, just about what I thought about this guy

Jrods my ****.........

burgundia · 07-31-2009, 06:20 PM

judging dan burisch and his revelations I used my intuition only and from the very beginning a little voice in my head was telling me that there was something not right...i can't explain that, but sometimes you just look at the person and you know....
i have a similar, unexplained by logic, feeling about another guy....

Avid · 07-31-2009, 06:46 PM

Please folks - lighten up a bit - DB is a human being who has been used and abused by the PTB. Obviously!
In hindsight...
He is in a terrible predicament - to serve us or his 'masters'.
After reading all the 'negativities', and I am sorry for posting the "pulling the plug" stuff (which really needed to be aired) but did not want total negativity.
That poor chap is surrounded by controllers, and now it seems the big Pharma have their oar in again.
Please send love and positivity to this maligned person, and perhaps he will be able to free himself asap from the PTB....
Idealistically thinking
Avid

tone3jaguar · 07-31-2009, 07:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avid

Please folks - lighten up a bit - DB is a human being who has been used and abused by the PTB. Obviously!
In hindsight...
He is in a terrible predicament - to serve us or his 'masters'.
After reading all the 'negativities', and I am sorry for posting the "pulling the plug" stuff (which really needed to be aired) but did not want total negativity.
That poor chap is surrounded by controllers, and now it seems the big Pharma have their oar in again.
Please send love and positivity to this maligned person, and perhaps he will be able to free himself asap from the PTB....
Idealistically thinking
Avid

Let me give a little different possible scenario and perspective on the situation. I understand where you are comming from and respect it. However let me throw another possible scenario out there. This is pure conjecture, and none of it is based on any personal knowledge on my part. However when I ask the question with my inner voice "what is this guys real story" the following popped in there spontainiously.

Lets say that disinformation department at what ever agency or non-agency is responsible for guarding the actual truth about super black projects has access to most if not all government databases. All government employees, including prison guards, take a multiple choice type of test that give the government a basic psychological profile on that individual. In case you have not read my previous posts link, it showed that during the time that Dan Burisch claims to have been working with the black ops he was actually a prison guard and a security guard at a casino in Vegas.

So said agency decides that they need to muddy the waters of the UFO movement even more than they already had. So they go into the database and do a search for individuals who both fit the psychological profile of someone who is good at being deceptive, and they are also in financial trouble. This would be quite easy to do by cross referencing a couple of databases. Low and behold they find two individuals that work at the same prison as employees and fit the profile that they are looking for. So they approach these individuals and offer them a job being disinformation agents. They keep their government benefits and don't have to go to work every day.

Am I getting warm?

07-31-2009, 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tone3jaguar

Let me give a little different possible scenario and perspective on the situation. I understand where you are comming from and respect it. However let me throw another possible scenario out there. This is pure conjecture, and none of it is based on any personal knowledge on my part. However when I ask the question with my inner voice "what is this guys real story" the following popped in there spontainiously.

Lets say that disinformation department at what ever agency or non-agency is responsible for guarding the actual truth about super black projects has access to most if not all government databases. All government employees, including prison guards, take a multiple choice type of test that give the government a basic psychological profile on that individual. In case you have not read my previous posts link, it showed that during the time that Dan Burisch claims to have been working with the black ops he was actually a prison guard and a security guard at a casino in Vegas.

So said agency decides that they need to muddy the waters of the UFO movement even more than they already had. So they go into the database and do a search for individuals who both fit the psychological profile of someone who is good at being deceptive, and they are also in financial trouble. This would be quite easy to do by cross referencing a couple of databases. Low and behold they find two individuals that work at the same prison as employees and fit the profile that they are looking for. So they approach these individuals and offer them a job being disinformation agents. They keep their government benefits and don't have to go to work every day.

Am I getting warm?

Wow, this theory is certainly very plausible, imo. I only recently became 'awake' and disinfo people like this just make it really tough for me and others like me to discover the truth for ourselves.

Buying into Dan Burisch's story like I did makes me feel really embarrassed now that this info is coming out.

TruthWillSetUFree · 07-31-2009, 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Avid

Please folks - lighten up a bit - DB is a human being who has been used and abused by the PTB. Obviously!
In hindsight...
He is in a terrible predicament - to serve us or his 'masters'.
After reading all the 'negativities', and I am sorry for posting the "pulling the plug" stuff (which really needed to be aired) but did not want total negativity.
That poor chap is surrounded by controllers, and now it seems the big Pharma have their oar in again.
Please send love and positivity to this maligned person, and perhaps he will be able to free himself asap from the PTB....
Idealistically thinking
Avid

Lying and misrepresenting oneself is NEVER NEVER acceptable

I do not feel sorry for people who are creating their own karma based in lies and deception. It was their choice to create their own "predicament" Besides how is he being abused by 'his masters' when he doesn't work for them like he claims to? I don't think he was even in Majestic!

Now it makes sense the way he acted on stage his defensiveness, his total lack of knowledge around the vaccine situation when there is so much available on the internet, the fact he brought up nothing but his own narrow view was weird

On top of this, accusing Kerry of wanting fame when they made up stories about themselves for fame and recognition. Always look at what an accuser is accusing someone of, chances are they are doing it themselves.
Kerry has never hid the fact she was looking to make movies and why wouldn't she want to make a movie on the people/topics she spends her life bringing to the world?

I thought it also curious in the middle of this confrontation that he brought up the fact that he and Marci feed the homeless people, like that is supposed to justify himself in some way. To me it was strange to bring that sort of information up during a heated argument.

I just don't understand if that issue of UFO magazine came out in 2004 why didn't anyone report that before? Doesn't Project Camelot have a vetting process?

Anyway it is the time for Truth to rise to the surface, from relationships, to governments and corporations to whistleblowers, and yes, thank God his charade of deception is over.

I too feel betrayed by both of them, not like I was a big fan but I did spend my valuable and even more so now, precious, time, my time, listening to him, time I will never get back as I do not trust even a single word he said as HIS OWN or something he heard or read from somewhere else or something he made up in his head from a sci fi novel he's read while being a parole officer in Las Vegas.

Believe me I defended this guy in the past, I gave this guy a lot of rope and he apparently hung himself with it.

In Truth....ALWAYS!

Ravens and Doves · 07-31-2009, 07:14 PM

When a person has his friends close and his enemies closer - and a few thousand neutrals in between - and your phone tapped and your parakeet chipped with AI (I imagine) - expcect some pretty wild, out-of-character behavior and statements.

My uncle worked at Gloom Lake (and elsewhere). He said he'd tell us kids what he did there only on his death bed. He died of a stroke that left his brian unable to let his mouth speak or his hand do much else but make strange signs (Dan also had a stroke).

We are in Rome and Dan is among those in the Puzzle Palace.

I don't know what he wrote, yet, but I know he's not being untruthful when it comes down to what he said in his initial interviews on Camelot. That's good enough for me.

If he and his wife are doing real harm to Kerry and this community and are not in the black-op cross hairs, that something different, but with cross hairs come little lazer beems and I, for one, almost caused some serious damage to an innocent person - and went a bit psycho - thinking something that wasn't true.

I need to go to Eagles and get back to yallz, but believe me, he's walking in a pair of shoes that are not on sale in the mall and I'll always like the man.

Paul

www.ravensanddoves.com

tone3jaguar · 07-31-2009, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ravens and Doves

When a person has his friends close and his enemies closer - and a few thousand neutrals in between - and your phone tapped and your parakeet chipped with AI (I imagine) - expcect some pretty wild, out-of-character behavior and statements.

My uncle worked at Gloom Lake (and elsewhere). He said he'd tell us kids what he did there only on his death bed. He died of a stroke that left his brian unable to let his mouth speak or his hand do much else but make strange signs (Dan also had a stroke).

We are in Rome and Dan is among those in the Puzzle Palace.

I don't know what he wrote, yet, but I know he's not being untruthful when it comes down to what he said in his initial interviews on Camelot. That's good enough for me.

If he and his wife are doing real harm to Kerry and this community and are not in the black-op cross hairs, that something different, but with cross hairs come little lazer beems and I, for one, almost caused some serious damage to an innocent person - and went a bit psycho - thinking something that wasn't true.

I need to go to Eagles and get back to yallz, but believe me, he's walking in a pair of shoes that are not on sale in the mall and I'll always like the man.

Paul

www.ravensanddoves.com

You can find what he wrote about Kerry and Camelot over in the News and Reports section of Avalon in the thread with Dan Burisch in the title.

day · 08-01-2009, 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tone3jaguar

You can find what he wrote about Kerry and Camelot over in the News and Reports section of Avalon in the thread with Dan Burisch in the title.

Thanks Jag for pointing out two things, when someone attacks unjustly, such as the attack on Bill and Kerry from Marcia and Dan, your antenna shot straight up and you brought it out in the open on the forum.

Second point is how you pointed out that this began because of what happened when Dan supported vaccinations. The whole scenario shifted, Dan and Marcia felt attacked, and then attacked Bill and Kerry - Their comments about the crystal seemed way off base, implying that Kerry had somehow tried to jeopardize the Lotus Project by giving a defective crystal, and how they were in need of apologies for the outburst from the audience... yes something is way off base.

We all want to be charitable and keep things cool, especially now with global vaccinations etc. but a perspective also needs to be kept. Its unfortunate that this happened in Zurich but when push comes to shove, another side emerges during stressful situations.

Psychic attacks could be responsible for some of it, but what about character? Do the actions of Dan and Marcia imply that felt they were doing Bill and Kerry a favor for coming to the conferences? Couldnt it also be the opposite as well?

its a great thread, and glad that you took a stand

14 Chakras · 08-01-2009, 06:54 PM

It is good to tell it like we see it I agree with this!

I personally believe it's very important for all seekers of truth to avoid group think at all times. Discernment comes from within.

I personally believe a big part of the problem with humanity at this stage is that it's natural for us to look for someone outside of us that has all the answers.

That's not gonna happen folks until we have fully enlightened Christ beings walking the planet (and they are going to help you to connect to the answers within you!), Burisch is obviously not one of those yet (I say yet, because I believe all people have the potential to overcome their egos and be reborn into the Christ Consciousness).

I want to post more on this thread, but am busy for the weekend.. so next week...

One of my thoughts in general for the search for truth is: Keep up the great debate, but don't throw out the baby with the bathwater!

Helvetic · 07-30-2009, 04:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmictexan

Helvetic you should go to Dan's or should I say Marcia's web site and look at what Dan is actually writing about PC and Kerry. Go to the Golden Thread and read for yourself. It is out of his own mouth not Marcia's unless she signs his posts with Dan. The paranoid and crazy things they are saying. I still have not made up my mind about the whole thing yet but I have a better understanding of the other side. Doesn't it seem strange that Bill and Kerry haven't said anything about this so far? I don't think I would respond to such crazy ideas either. To me that says a lot that PC has not put out a statement yet. Go do some reading and I think you will have a better understanding of what is really going on here.

cosmictexan, yes I was at the conference in Zurich, I read everything at Eagles Disobey and yes we talked personaly with Dan & Marci in Zurich. I agree there is much confusion at the moment. There are alot of open questions that only those who are directly involved can answer.

tone3jaguar · 07-30-2009, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helvetic

I will have my eyes on the vaccine subject but at the moment I see pure vaccine paranoia all over here.
Btw: I was at the Zurich Conference and was present when those guys opened their mouths against Dan. That was rude not acceptable.

There is alot of fear at the moment about this possible forced vaccination business. However, I would not classify it as paranoia. My version of the word paranoia is when people are afraid of somthing or somethings for no valid reason, or a fabricated reason. The videos I posted in this thread fall into the category of justified concern to all of those who watch it, far from paranoia. I thought that all of this resurgence of swine flu talk was all made up and disinformation myself until I started seeing more and more non-alternative media reports comming in that where backing up what the alternative media had said was going to happen. This put me on red alert and prompted me to draw my conclusions which I can see no assumptions being made in. Then I started this thread. If those of us who are awake do not scream out loud collectively to the drones to look out because they are standing on the train tracks and the train is comming then who will?

Tango · 08-08-2009, 06:24 AM

I've got to start out by saying " I'm not posting to Judge "
But, something isn't right..........!!! I've sent DB's video's
to some other retired mil. officers in Tucson, AZ.
[tower operators, ATC, logistics] he doesn't use mil. jargon.

You tell me... Watch the movie " Annapolis." Try to
picture DB in the place of a character... As a Midshipman.
I've heard, he was a U.S. Navy Captain, Daniel Crane, he
would have had to attend Annapolis; for officers training.
We all do. He doesn't speak the way officers talk.

If you've ever heard Wendell Stevens, from Tucson, AZ
is a retired officer. I spoke with Bob Dean, in his home
way back when he had the Stargate website... He was
an enlistedmen, CSgt.M, Army (ret.), both of these men
delivery is the same. Clear; consistent as most used to
giving reports. I don't hear that kind of delivery from DB.
DB also doesn't use mil. jargon [lingo]... Strange Huh...

I remember something abt a "BJ Wolf" out of Vegas. But, it
sounded like B.S. to me...

We, were up thru Vegas twice a month at least until 02,
there was a deal with the LUXOR; $ 14.00 per nite, if we
showed our ID's and stayed armed while in the hotel. We
did Nellis and the ranch... So, we were stuck in Vegas area
for two nites and I wasn't stay'n at the B.O.Q. on Nellis.
I've always hated Vegas.

Understand this... mil. officers retirement is abt $ 1875.00 a
month Before the last COLA, and DB has security. Bullsfit !
And, why would he live in Vegas ? Why, wouldn't he move
over W. of the MTN. [where Art Bell lived...] or down
by the Hoover damn, I know several officers that live down
there...? Why Vegas ? Why an apartment...? Something
doesn't add up here... I've been in the game too long to
miss anything.

Now, he is going to a pharmaceutical manufacturer... Sorry,
everything is shipped into Vegas. No manufacturers there...
I would know... Most everything in Vegas comes from
Phoenix, AZ...

He doesn't talk military....... I've listened... Go back and
listen to Bob Dean... That's the way most officers deliver.
That's the way, I deliver a report... Just the facts, NO
DRAMA... DB, always uses some kind of drama. Not becoming;
a Naval Officer...

I do remember someone showing me a video of DB as
a TV " science guy." Way back... I don't remember who
showed me... Out of NY, I think...

Now, remember as I said, " I'm NOT judging here with this
post..." But, it is against the LAW to impersonate a mil.
officer. They are making arrests for such offenses; crimes.
Has anyone seen his mil. ID. Does he have a Brown passport
like we have...?

Someone, needs to ask Bob Dean what he thinks... When I
talked to Bob Dean in his home, that's the first thing I did
was showed him My mil. ID. Hopefully, he doesn't remember
me by my handle... But, he Would recon me if he saw me,
right off. Oh, and, I completely trust Robert Dean...

Trooly,

Tango

Quote:

Originally Posted by JesterTerrestrial

Do you think the looking glass saw this post coming?

Hiram · 08-08-2009, 05:35 PM

I have spent many years watching Dan Burisch, long before PC came to be. I take his info like a salad bar....take what I want and leave the rest.

What is undeniable about him and his site after all these years, is his curious.......NO DOWNRIGHT STRANGE....preoccupation with setting up controls about who gets to hear what...and repeatedly calling out the public on his forum to let them know that certain people will get to see certain information and to "ALL OTHERS...the information is ACCESS DENIED!"

I'm sorry, but this reeks of some very serious control issues. Its also...and this is just a fact...very self-righteous.

Why would an individual continually have to "DENY" people access? It is very strange. The word is all over his golden thread. I just think its somewhat strange and I would like to hear an accounting of this by DB and MB.

Their overall sentiment is NOT friendly. I can't figure out why.

I think these are fair and reasonable concerns.

KathyT · 08-30-2009, 12:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hiram

I have spent many years watching Dan Burisch, long before PC came to be. I take his info like a salad bar....take what I want and leave the rest.

What is undeniable about him and his site after all these years, is his curious.......NO DOWNRIGHT STRANGE....preoccupation with setting up controls about who gets to hear what...and repeatedly calling out the public on his forum to let them know that certain people will get to see certain information and to "ALL OTHERS...the information is ACCESS DENIED!"

I'm sorry, but this reeks of some very serious control issues. Its also...and this is just a fact...very self-righteous.

Why would an individual continually have to "DENY" people access? It is very strange. The word is all over his golden thread. I just think its somewhat strange and I would like to hear an accounting of this by DB and MB.

I think these are fair and reasonable concerns.

I suggest everyone do their research about Dan Burisch also known as Dr.Crain.

http://www.klas-tv.com/Global/story.asp?S=4190378

"His name today is Dan Burisch. Before that it was Dan Catselas, and when Eyewitness News first ran into him, it was Dan Crain. "Doctor" Dan Crain, he says. But is he a doctor, and has he really been face to face with an alien in an underground lab?"

A TV Producer's story:
http://www.godlikeproductions.com/fo...sage440667/pg1

From UFO WatchDog, 2004, long before Bill & Kerry met him. This one is a must read! The bankruptcy filing is interesting.
http://www.ufowatchdog.com/burischdirtbag.html

Tango · 08-30-2009, 11:34 PM

Come On people... "

Iliked the Jeanie in the bottle sT0ry better." Two AF Majors N' Doctors."

L.A.; Contracts; Story; Camera Operator; Chickens disobey [crew] [drama]Played Dr actors card?

JUST THINK... Don't Say.... Security Jobs [Paper Trail]. Writer. Make a Movie. Who's DC's Agent.

Who owns S4 Lab Story's; JRod story; Romper Room owns Looking Glass.
copyright?

Observe. I know actors that work 2 jobs. How long has it been running...

There going to be building studios near the De-Commissioned Williams AFB., AZ
Called " GateWay Studios." Where the movie the " Kingdom " was shot.

Film is Really down now... Actors at HoneyWell; Security; Bartending...
Bit parts.
I'm not going any further.[Stop Thinking about] I'll Send. You Think !

N' Some have Doubts;

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA,

Tango

I need to go look at a script: "I've never Been there. Where... MOA51" [Wink]...

07-31-2009, 04:14 PM	#1
tone3jaguar Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: www.altimatrix.com Posts: 1,525	Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch Uh Oh, the exchanger just emailed this link to me, it seems as though we have all been had by Burisch for quite some time. Others have apparently done their homework. I now feel sorry for David Wilcock because his relationship with Dan Burisch is now going probably cause him some issues. CLICK HERE FOR INVESTIGATIVE REPORT ABOUT "DR." DAN BURISCH

07-31-2009, 05:23 PM	#2
Reader Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Raleigh, North Carolina Posts: 186	Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch Nice work Jag, just about what I thought about this guy Jrods my ****.........

07-31-2009, 06:20 PM	#3
burgundia Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Poland Posts: 3,442	Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch judging dan burisch and his revelations I used my intuition only and from the very beginning a little voice in my head was telling me that there was something not right...i can't explain that, but sometimes you just look at the person and you know.... i have a similar, unexplained by logic, feeling about another guy....

07-31-2009, 06:46 PM	#4
Avid Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: UK Posts: 660	Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch Please folks - lighten up a bit - DB is a human being who has been used and abused by the PTB. Obviously! In hindsight... He is in a terrible predicament - to serve us or his 'masters'. After reading all the 'negativities', and I am sorry for posting the "pulling the plug" stuff (which really needed to be aired) but did not want total negativity. That poor chap is surrounded by controllers, and now it seems the big Pharma have their oar in again. Please send love and positivity to this maligned person, and perhaps he will be able to free himself asap from the PTB.... Idealistically thinking Avid

07-31-2009, 07:14 PM	#8
Ravens and Doves Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: North Hollywood, California Posts: 218	When in Caligula's Palace When a person has his friends close and his enemies closer - and a few thousand neutrals in between - and your phone tapped and your parakeet chipped with AI (I imagine) - expcect some pretty wild, out-of-character behavior and statements. My uncle worked at Gloom Lake (and elsewhere). He said he'd tell us kids what he did there only on his death bed. He died of a stroke that left his brian unable to let his mouth speak or his hand do much else but make strange signs (Dan also had a stroke). We are in Rome and Dan is among those in the Puzzle Palace. I don't know what he wrote, yet, but I know he's not being untruthful when it comes down to what he said in his initial interviews on Camelot. That's good enough for me. If he and his wife are doing real harm to Kerry and this community and are not in the black-op cross hairs, that something different, but with cross hairs come little lazer beems and I, for one, almost caused some serious damage to an innocent person - and went a bit psycho - thinking something that wasn't true. I need to go to Eagles and get back to yallz, but believe me, he's walking in a pair of shoes that are not on sale in the mall and I'll always like the man. Paul www.ravensanddoves.com

08-01-2009, 06:54 PM	#11
14 Chakras Avalon Senior Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: Calgary, Canada Posts: 832	Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch It is good to tell it like we see it I agree with this! I personally believe it's very important for all seekers of truth to avoid group think at all times. Discernment comes from within. I personally believe a big part of the problem with humanity at this stage is that it's natural for us to look for someone outside of us that has all the answers. That's not gonna happen folks until we have fully enlightened Christ beings walking the planet (and they are going to help you to connect to the answers within you!), Burisch is obviously not one of those yet (I say yet, because I believe all people have the potential to overcome their egos and be reborn into the Christ Consciousness). I want to post more on this thread, but am busy for the weekend.. so next week... One of my thoughts in general for the search for truth is: Keep up the great debate, but don't throw out the baby with the bathwater! Last edited by 14 Chakras; 08-01-2009 at 07:32 PM.

08-08-2009, 05:35 PM	#15
Hiram Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: San Francisco Posts: 119	Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch I have spent many years watching Dan Burisch, long before PC came to be. I take his info like a salad bar....take what I want and leave the rest. What is undeniable about him and his site after all these years, is his curious.......NO DOWNRIGHT STRANGE....preoccupation with setting up controls about who gets to hear what...and repeatedly calling out the public on his forum to let them know that certain people will get to see certain information and to "ALL OTHERS...the information is ACCESS DENIED!" I'm sorry, but this reeks of some very serious control issues. Its also...and this is just a fact...very self-righteous. Why would an individual continually have to "DENY" people access? It is very strange. The word is all over his golden thread. I just think its somewhat strange and I would like to hear an accounting of this by DB and MB. Their overall sentiment is NOT friendly. I can't figure out why. I think these are fair and reasonable concerns.

08-30-2009, 11:34 PM	#17
Tango Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: eating dessert in the desert of Arizona Posts: 1,554	Re: I am calling out Dan Burisch Come On people... " Iliked the Jeanie in the bottle sT0ry better." Two AF Majors N' Doctors." L.A.; Contracts; Story; Camera Operator; Chickens disobey [crew] [drama]Played Dr actors card? JUST THINK... Don't Say.... Security Jobs [Paper Trail]. Writer. Make a Movie. Who's DC's Agent. Who owns S4 Lab Story's; JRod story; Romper Room owns Looking Glass. copyright? Observe. I know actors that work 2 jobs. How long has it been running... There going to be building studios near the De-Commissioned Williams AFB., AZ Called " GateWay Studios." Where the movie the " Kingdom " was shot. Film is Really down now... Actors at HoneyWell; Security; Bartending... Bit parts. I'm not going any further.[Stop Thinking about] I'll Send. You Think ! N' Some have Doubts; AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA, Tango I need to go look at a script: "I've never Been there. Where... MOA51" [Wink]... Last edited by Tango; 09-01-2009 at 04:47 AM.