Let's discuss Zurich debate about the swine flu shots

I've heard about it on another website. It's appauling! I don't think this flu virus is the only one they're using it in. Why is there a new and improved MMR vaccine? What was wrong with the original one????????????????????

Why are all school children required to have this new and improved vaccine before they return to school in the fall??????? Even if they already had the original vaccine???:sneaky 2:

[Ara]

Originally Posted by cosmictexan

The discussion was hard to hear because of the guy yelling the whole time, but I think there was a big misunderstanding about the subject. The most recent update now says "

"Please pass to Bill & Kerry, if you please, that my Prez. Of Eagles Disobey (Marcia) just issued finances to me (as Director) to conduct a full-on “vaccine” investigation, with specific emphasis on claims of mis-use, Zurich (CH), etc. (Please also ask for historical information about Europe’s Concerns to be sent to me.)

Please ask for any “evidence” of such claims to be sent to support@projectcamelot.org

with ATT: Dan Evidence

in the subject line.

I will report on this investigation at “Awake & Aware” in L.A. – then on Eagles Disobey. We have heard them.

Pass my love to them."

Dan

This is found on Camelot's home page. I guess Dan and the some of the upset people must have talked after the conference and come to some agreement for Dan to do an investigation. I guess we'll have to wait and see what happens. I have been thinking about since the live conference. It just seemed so strange for Dan to agree with vaccines. He talked about a vaccine database. Does anyone know about a database with vaccine info?

Personally I'd like to see Dr Dan Burisch, Dr Bill Deagle, Dr Len Horwowitz and Dr Robert Gallo all together in front of Bill and Kerry's camera, the subject being Vaccinations and Inoculations with a sub category of Morgellans Disease. It's all about getting the right people together for the facts to be revealled.

Heck I'd even be happy with just Drs Burisch and Deagle talking the talk. They are intellectually on a par, with both having brilliant minds and each a deep seated and earnest desire to get their truths out to the world.

[Anchor]

Somewhat at a tangent, but I will write it here anyway...

So far the greatest effects of this have already been realized by stiking fear into the hearts of the people who are the most aware of the issues, and not one needle has broken our skins!

I don't suppose anyone considered that if the enforced vaccination went ahead there are non-3D methods to deal with the problem. If you accept the injection you are giving in. You must resist and protest. You must say NO, I will not be medicated. Reasons do not have to be given. The creator bestowed you with a body that is your resposibility and that of no other person - unless you so choose to accept any aid that is offered.

The negative elite are tricksters - orchestrating a huge game that will deceive you into accepting thier "aid". Already there are higher profile media stories about FEMA dentention camps. So what - ask yourself what are these images doing ?

They are setting you up to avoid them by accepting the vaccine. To be so scared you will give up without a fight like good little cattle.

You must, answer thier greetings and offer of aid in the name of the creator - "NO! Not under any circumstance will I allow you to vaccinate me or those for whom I am responsible.".

Your free-will and your fearlessness (courage) are your weapons in this war.

If all else fails, and you are acting with the highest purity - then you will find that Water into wine is so yesterday, the miracle of the future will be "Weaponized medication" into water.

A..

[metaw3]

I'm glad to hear about Dan investigating.

Here's a thought:

What if it's not about killer vaccines, but rather about taking out people who are not scared of refusing mandatory vaccination, since these people won't and obviously can't be mind-controlled into accepting the NWO? Kind of a practical survey to see how fearless some of us are, and how many we are. Actually I got this theory from there
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?ui...03&topic=10499

Even if the guy made it up, it fits perfectly with the way they operate. Don't you think?

SUBVERSIVES AND DESSENTERS BEWARE!

The shadowy elite have orchestrated a dastardly plan to unleash a modified and deadly strain of Swine Flu in the Autumn of 2009. The vaccination uptake rates among the general population is expected to be very high. This will be achieved by an increasingly apocalyptic and sustained media campaign warning the public of the dangers of refusing the vaccine. Governments have already printed millions more leaflets and posters to back this up.

Only subversives and dessenters will refuse the vaccine. The target of the shadowy elite is to wipe out an estimated 93.6% of the opposition to their evil plans for a New World Order. Leaving only the good sheeple who will continue to act as their slaves, no questions asked.

YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

It's getting hard to follow with so many flu shots threads all over the place.

[cosmictexan]

metaw3

I joined the group also. I am wondering if the vaccines aren't for another reason. Sterilization? I got the 76 swine flu vaccine and have never been able to get pregnant, now I wonder if it was the shot. I have been married three times and never could get pregnant with any of the three. I never really investigated why, just thought if it is meant to be, but now it makes me think.

I know that Guardasil is for that purpose even if they don't say so. Why give a girl the age of 8 a vaccine for cervical cancer. Sorry for the rant. Just really makes me mad.

[franciejones]

still asleep here

[metaw3]

I'm sorry to read about that cosmictexan. Unfortunately, sterilization is exactly what Dr. Ayoub is suspecting about aluminum in vaccines in the video suggested on the Camelot homepage. Very disturbing facts:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...23476709184666

[Malletzky]

Imortant update from Germany: I just heard on the radio that the german government ordered today 50.000.000 vaccines, which is enough to "save" 25.000.000 people. Is it necessery to receive this twice?

I don't want it at all...I don't accept it at all. What for? The illness just process so innocuous, that all infected heal completely after a week or two. So the question is not why the vaccine, but what's inside?

And Anchor....perfectly said mate...


malletzky

[MoV]

live now http://americanfreedomradio.com/ I'll post the mp3 after

[lindabaker]

[QUOTE=metaw3;152486]I'm glad to hear about Dan investigating.

Here's a thought:

What if it's not about killer vaccines, but rather about taking out people who are not scared of refusing mandatory vaccination, since these people won't and obviously can't be mind-controlled into accepting the NWO? Kind of a practical survey to see how fearless some of us are, and how many we are. Actually I got this theory from there
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?ui...03&topic=10499

Even if the guy made it up, it fits perfectly with the way they operate. Don't you think?

Aw, ****, now it's really confusing! Do you refuse and become part of the non-controllable minority, therefore a target? Or do you comply and die? It's like second guessing in which goblet the poison resides, like in The Princess Bride. The shell game begins. Any ideas, anybody?

Thanks, now I really don't know what to do

I love this thread.

[14 Chakras]

[quote=lindabaker;152548]

Originally Posted by metaw3

I'm glad to hear about Dan investigating.

Here's a thought:

What if it's not about killer vaccines, but rather about taking out people who are not scared of refusing mandatory vaccination, since these people won't and obviously can't be mind-controlled into accepting the NWO? Kind of a practical survey to see how fearless some of us are, and how many we are. Actually I got this theory from there
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?ui...03&topic=10499

Even if the guy made it up, it fits perfectly with the way they operate. Don't you think?

Aw, ****, now it's really confusing! Do you refuse and become part of the non-controllable minority, therefore a target? Or do you comply and die? It's like second guessing in which goblet the poison resides, like in The Princess Bride. The shell game begins. Any ideas, anybody?

I'd say it's a little of both. The vaccine can probably be 'weaponized' at some point, and surely won't be good for you. I'm sure they'd like to 'kill two birds with one stone' and use the whole thing as an excuse to FEMAway those who refuse to get one...

That being said, they can't do stuff when there's too much exposure on it. They may have nasty plans, but once they are figured out, they pretty much can't pull it off. Too many people would stand up against them.

Esoterically, I also believe there is something to cosmic law that because of free will,

A) they have to give you a sufficient amount of hints about what they are planning and

B) if a sufficient number of people figure it out and get the word out, they pretty much can't do it.


It also helps when spiritual people connect to the ascended hosts, like Archangel Michael, and make calls against plots like this. They simply don't materialize when enough people figure out what it is before hand and spread the word.

The work that whistle blowers and truth seekers do may be more effective and important than most realize.

In this case, I don't believe they will be able to pull off a really negative event here, there's just too much awareness around the potentials here.

[jem284]

Hi Sleepingnomore
I agree totally
I think someone needs to ask those questions at his work shop tomarrow
to see what he will say to that
I just don't know if they will receive the message on that web site that they are going to be broad casting from.
I don't know how to do that or I would try.
If anyone could ask those questions that would be great.
I do get the feeling that he is holding back but sincerely wants to try to help what ever way he can.

[Carrie1971]

Originally Posted by Unified Serenity

I LOVE YOU!!!!

THanks a million!!!!!!!!!

Thank you so very much....

[333mark333]

Originally Posted by metaw3

I have put it on youtube. I'll remove it later. It starts at 8:20:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzJvV...x=0&playnext=1

Thank you!

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

im not phased by swine flu either 3 T JAG. but im saying that why would he come out with that statement. he obv knew it would **** everyone off.. somethings are better kept to yourself imo.. its like saying oh btw war is a pretty good idea.. again i will listen to mr burisch and make up my own mind .. hes demonstrated nothing so far that makes me think he is the rea ldeal

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

i got 15 litres of silver and 2 bottles of MMS. i dont got to the doctors and i dont go the dentist. i dont require any biological interference from the PTB ty.

[tone3jaguar]

Who knows, he just tells us what ever his keepers ask him to tell us. They say tell them about the grays, so he tells us about the grays. They say tell them disinformation about swine flu, so he tells them disinformation about swine flu. He is just a servant doing his best to make sure he continues to get funding for his scientific research. Most scientists in the world are like this today. I worked in the agricultural industry for a while as a golf superintendent. 90 percent of the University scientists where just standing up in front of people reading a script given to them by the chemical companies. It had become accepted practice in the scientific community in agriculture to lie to the consumers as long as it got the funding flowing.

[jem284]

I was wondering if any one was going to put up on you tube the Dan Burish work shop
That would be great if someone could do that
thank you

[TruthWillSetUFree]

Now that I have heard the entire exchange I really feel Dan's heart is in the right place, maybe he really doesn't know about what is going on with the vaccine agenda.

Hopefully, by the Tuesday radio show on Camelot we will have another perspective on all this.

Thanks for putting it up for us metaw3

[MoV]

Originally Posted by jem284

I was wondering if any one was going to put up on you tube the Dan Burish work shop
That would be great if someone could do that
thank you

I was at work by the time the work shop started but I recorded the last hour ...

http://www.hotshare.net/en/audio/161159-2302939ce0.html
56:20/25.7 MB

No download limit this time

[jem284]

Thank you so much MoV!!

[Carrie1971]

Originally Posted by MoV

I have recorded the last two and a half hours..

file is uploading now

http://rapidshare.com/files/25472485...43_09.mp3.html

109 MB

I first would like to say thank you for takng the time to share the file.

However rapid share will only let 10 downloads. So if anyone can put the file where many can hear it that would be great.

[TruthWillSetUFree]

Originally Posted by metaw3

The Zurich conference was broadcasted live at the last minute:
http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=15277

We caught the 19pm panel discussion:
http://www.groundcrew.ch/logistics.html

Dan Burisch, Marcia McDowell, Brian O'Leary, David Wilcock and Bill Ryan were on the stage. At some point the swine flu shots were brought up. David took a stand against vaccines and Dan for vaccines. Some in the audience were shouting at Dan and it was quite intense.

OMG! Are you kidding me? Dan was FOR vaccines? That is just crazy especially with the amount of information that has come out about them! What were his views based on? I do not like the sound of that at all. I sure would like to hear that exchange!

I am now wondering why Kerry wasn't invited to the conference too, but am emphatically aligned with her views on having any vaccination whatsoever.

I was at work, I wished I could have heard the conference. They said it would be up tomorrow? Would you post the link if you can?

Thank you so much for keeping me updated

Yours In Truth

[metaw3]

Update 2 :

11 July 2009 -- update 2 • Kerry and I are united in our stand against vaccinations of any kind. On the Zurich Conference panel discussion this evening there were two issues:
-- whether or not vaccinations are a valid way to boost immunity (even if given wih ethical intentions)
-- the potentialunethical intentions of some of the vaccine administrators or vaccine creators.

The audience question was about the latter. But Dan Burisch, being a microbiologist, answered about the former - stating that he felt there was scientific evidence that vaccines helped to reduce disease. Following this there were some very passionate and interesting opinions expressed.

Meanwhile, Kerry and I at Project Camelot are delighted to be in touch with Jane Burgermeister (who will be a guest on our radio show on Tuesday) - and the vaccine debate may well be continued in Dan's Conference workshop from 10.00-12.00 CET tomorrow, Sunday. Click here to listen.