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Old 11-23-2008, 02:39 AM   #1
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It can also leach minerals out of 'materials' (Is this a good thing?)
NOTE:
It Cannot/Will NOT Remove Flourine from anything. Flourine, Chlorine are close chemical cousins and leave each other alone. Oxygen is another 'cousin'.
If you have not studied and understood at least basic College-level Chemistry, you may not have enough knowledge to Safely use or Safely Understand What MMS is or what it will do.
The "supplement" is good for purifying water when properly utilized.
It is not a cure-all and it must not be combined with many metals or many electronegative elements.
Take some solid courses at school and educate yourselves or be very sure that those you listen to for help and education are properly educated and have Your best interests at heart.
Blessings Orionsbelt,

Mr Jim Humble is a metallurgist, scientist and a chemist. All information I have posted here is merely quotes of his research and not derived from my education. It is also highly recommended to take minerals while ingesting MMS. If you read the research which is very time consuming, you will find answers to many of your questions/statements.

Bill Ryan also interviewed Mr. Humble yesterday and I believe that will be available on Camelot soon.

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Miracle Mineral Solution is a 28% solution of sodium chlorite in distilled water. Miracle Mineral Solution is a water purification product. It is not a mineral supplement nor is it sold as a mineral supplement of any kind. Though often referred to in acronym (i.e. "MMS"), an important distinction must be made between Miracle Mineral Solution and the "MMS Protocol" established by chemist and metallurgist Jim Humble and detailed exhaustively in his book, "Breakthrough, the Miracle Mineral Supplement of the 21st Century". When Miracle Mineral Solution is activated such as detailed in Jim Humble's protocol (1:5 drop solution using vinegar with 5% acetic acid or greater, lemon or lime juice, or a 10% solution of citric acid), the chemical compound chlorine dioxide is produced. If your privately intended use for Miracle Mineral Solution is to activate it in accordance with Jim Humble's protocol, it is advised you read Mr. Humble's book and/or study various third party resources which are made available here for your safety. Any information provided herein is for educational purposes only and is NOT meant to diagnose, treat, cure or prevent disease.
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Biosafe: “MMS claims to be chlorine dioxide, it is not.”

Jim Humble: This is where he shows his total ignorance for chemistry. All the claims anywhere, and especially in my book say that acidified sodium chlorite generates chlorine dioxide. In the case of MMS it is generated in extremely microscopic amounts. And, of course, MMS has never claimed it is chlorine dioxide.

Now about chemistry. Chemistry is pretty well established in colleges and universities. It teaches certain principles. Most of our scientists agree with these principles of chemistry. So when Biosafe tries to beat around the bush about MMS and says it isn’t producing chlorine dioxide then he simply doesn’t understand chemistry. Let me make it easy. Go to Code of Federal Regulations (CFR) 173.325 and you will see that even the regulations talk about making chlorine dioxide from sodium chlorite (that’s what MMS is). It’s so well known through out our society its even in the regulations. One more reference. Go to http://www.lennteck.com/water-disinf...lorine-dioxide. There you can learn a lot about chlorine dioxide for use in industry. But the important thing you can learn is that it is generated from sodium chlorite (MMS) with addition of acids. I can’t say biosafe is deliberately lying, he probably just can’t get the technology down straight in his mind.

But when you are reading about it, you must understand that I never said that MMS is chlorine dioxide when acidified. I said many places, MMS generates up to 1 mg of chlorine dioxide per hour when in the body and up to 3 milligrams when the acid is first added to it. Does that sound like I’m saying MMS is chlorine dioxide. It generates a tiny tiny amount of chlorine dioxide. That isn’t even a pin head. That is at least 1000 times less than what Biosafe is saying that I am saying.
Free Download of Part 1 of Jim Humble's Book available at this authorized website:

Click on ABOUT MMS, scroll down to MMS RESEARCH and click on FREE DOWNLOAD

http://www.mmsmiracle.com/hereforhealing Low cost shipping rates, includes worldwide.

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Old 11-23-2008, 06:15 AM   #2
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Update here.

I decided to stop the Zovirax pills after taking 2 @ 800mg.
It didn't do anything for me at all this time. Which is interesting.
I assume the MMS quickly got rid of them out of my system as pills don't really belong there anyway.
I have kept on with the MMS and will get my first test soon.


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Old 11-24-2008, 01:38 AM   #3
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Ampgod,

I have been following your quest with MMS and the Herpes Simplex I you are fighting. I am posting at this point because of your comment on returning to the Zovirax (if only for a short stint).

I used to suffer on a monthly basis with the same type of herpes until I learned in my herbal studies that this type and even genital herpes can be cured by using L-Lysine.

This is an amino acid that we produce naturally and for what ever reason you are not producing, getting enough or utilizing your Lysine properly. I would like to suggest you try taking L-Lysine and see what happens. I have no idea how this would interfere with the MMS.

Ther is a lot of info on web about L-Lysine and herpes . . . . just google

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Update here.

I decided to stop the Zovirax pills after taking 2 @ 800mg.
It didn't do anything for me at all this time. Which is interesting.
I assume the MMS quickly got rid of them out of my system as pills don't really belong there anyway.
I have kept on with the MMS and will get my first test soon.


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Old 11-24-2008, 02:38 AM   #4
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Ampgod,

I have been following your quest with MMS and the Herpes Simplex I you are fighting. I am posting at this point because of your comment on returning to the Zovirax (if only for a short stint).

I used to suffer on a monthly basis with the same type of herpes until I learned in my herbal studies that this type and even genital herpes can be cured by using L-Lysine.

This is an amino acid that we produce naturally and for what ever reason you are not producing, getting enough or utilizing your Lysine properly. I would like to suggest you try taking L-Lysine and see what happens. I have no idea how this would interfere with the MMS.

Ther is a lot of info on web about L-Lysine and herpes . . . . just google

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That is interesting you mention L- Lysine. I have always used it to keep the lip from getting too ravaged when a breakout happens.

I don't see it as a cure though.

It's an amino acid (skin builder).
It toughens the lip skin and makes the breakout more manageable.

If I am wrong please help me understand.

Here is a quick quote off the web regarding Lysine...

"Lysine is believed to prevent and relieve cold sores (herpes).
In studies conducted over the last several years with lysine, researchers are finding lysine to aid in the control and prevention of herpes outbreaks."

"L-Lysine" is a suppression helper only. As far as I can tell.

I only use when I feel the onset of an outbreak. Not all the time.
I don't think i'll ever need it again do to MMS. Actually.


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Old 11-23-2008, 06:19 AM   #5
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After reading all these posts about the 'Supplement' - To sit back and say Nothing in this case is Wrong.

In very very small doses may be helpful for killing bacteria.

It can also leach minerals out of 'materials' (Is this a good thing?)

Like Clorox/Bleach, it can be use to improve unsanitary conditions BUT, it is very TOXIC.

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It Cannot/Will NOT Remove Flourine from anything. Flourine, Chlorine are close chemical cousins and leave each other alone. Oxygen is another 'cousin'.

The so-called supplement is made of three elements: (Sodium, Chlorine and Oxygen). When combine with the acid 'activator', you break the chemical bonds and release the Chlorine and some Oxygen into your blood and body. Smell the Chlorine Gas?

Chlorine was the number One poison used in chemical warfare in WWII. (remember Gas masks?) Flourine is slightly more hazardous and could be used as well but Chlorine is much easier to produce. If you aren't getting enough Flourine in your water you can add a bit more Chlorine (not serious).

Salt water is composed of Sodium, Chlorine, Hydrogen and Oxygen. Break the NaCl bonds of the salt in the water and you have Chlorine Gas.

Guess what will Chemically REACT quite violently with silver and many other elements?
Why does one put DROPS of the MIRACLE into a Glass instead of into a Metal drinking container?

If you have not studied and understood at least basic College-level Chemistry, you may not have enough knowledge to Safely use or Safely Understand What MMS is or what it will do.

The electronegative properties of F, CL and O are the highest on the Periodic Chart. (the most reactive elements on the top-right corner of the Periodic Chart - excluding the Noble Gases). If you do not understand what this means then you are not in any position to be telling others about what the "Miracle" can and cannot do. Addition studies in microbiology and organic chemistry are suggested as well. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronegativity

The "Miracle" can be highly reactive and hazardous.

The "supplement" is good for purifying water when properly utilized.

It is not a cure-all and it must not be combined with many metals or many electronegative elements.

Another note: Viruses are NOT, by definition, living and they are not related to bacteria. Bacteria Are living organisms. You CANNOT KILL a virus - it is Not Alive!

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Hydrogen Peroxide does not contain any harmful Chlorine and it kills bacteria and releases oxygen when 'activated'. It can be used as a powerful water purifier. H2O2 = (Two parts Hydrogen + Two parts Oxygen --- nothing more). It does react with many metals and has some hazardous properties as well, when used improperly. H2O2 also reacts with Silver.

Take some solid courses at school and educate yourselves or be very sure that those you listen to for help and education are properly educated and have Your best interests at heart.

Ignorance is Not bliss in this case.

The internet can be hazardous to your health.
It can be deadly. Used Wisely, you can educate yourself instead of living in fantasy worlds all the time. (A little scifi is fun)

Back into the woodwork.
I don't know about the fluoride issue.

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As for MMS being dangerous.
I STRONGLY DISAGREE!!!!
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Could you tell us what exactly you think MMS's bad effects on the body would be?
Because I'm on heavy doses and I know how harmless & how great it is.
(if taken as directed by Jim humble)

You are welcome to contact me to arrange a visit with me in person to watch me take 18 drops, 3 times a day to see what happens. hahahaha

NOTHING SUCCEEDS LIKE SUCCESS!

I have also tried taking doses of colloidal silver ion in between my doses of MMS. No problems.

Chlorine & Chlorine Dioxide. Two VERY DIFFERENT THINGS.
To scare people with Chlorine, in regard to MMS, is a mistake.

* I think you may want to look into the MMS a bit further to understand it better.

Peace,
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Old 11-30-2008, 04:00 AM   #6
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Boy, a half a glass of juice doesn't hide the taste very well once you get to 7 drops, does it?

And I still have a single drop does for my cat for tonite where I drink the rest. But fortunately, it will taste just fine.

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Old 11-30-2008, 04:47 AM   #7
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Thank you guys!

I'm just not sure about the vitamin C. I may take your advice and have a little here and there.
I still am not sure what happened here. Just guessing.

The cold is on it's way out now. I'm feeling better.
My throat does not hurt anymore.
(but I did use the Bob beck Magnetic Pulser for 2 hours on my lymph nodes of throat. Also 4 glasses over 2 days of colloidal Silver.)

I figured I should keep hitting the MMS just incase there is something still lurking around.

I was happy to see my lips NOT looking irritated.
Just before a breakout they have a certain look.
This time the lip color looked normal all the way through my throat sickness/cold.
So something good is happening there for sure.

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Old 11-30-2008, 05:29 AM   #8
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Good for you man.
Very pleased to read you're feeling better.
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Old 03-05-2009, 06:16 AM   #9
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Hi All,

Is there a way to buy this MMS in a store in Miami?. I do no want to order it over the internet.

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Old 03-08-2009, 06:04 PM   #10
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Hi all Have received our sodium chlirite powder, and reading the instructions I am confused ? I do dot know the correct amount of sodium chorite to use, 1 oz does not equal 4 tablespoons, as in instructions. In Canada 1 oz is 2 tablespoons. Thanks Midnight farmer
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Old 03-08-2009, 06:30 PM   #11
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Whoa, midnightfarmer, that sounds like way too much. It says to start off with one drop of MMs to five drops of citric, eg, lemon juice. - wait three minutes - top up to third or two thirds of the glass with juice - and drink. Do that twice a day, increasing the drops by one each time (unless you get nauseous or diarhia) until you get up to fifteen drops at a time - note that you increase the lemon drops also, ratio should be 1 to 5. At fifteen drops - increase to three times a day - then back off the rates - your body should have done it's detoxing by that stage.

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Old 03-08-2009, 11:44 PM   #12
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Hi Carmen I am making my own MMS 4oz bottle of drops from sodium chlorite powder and distilled water. There two sets of directions, one is 1 oz of sodium chlirite powder plus 3 oz of distilled water. The second is 4 tablespoons mixed with 3 oz of water. On my scales 4 tablespoons of sodium chlorite powder weighs 2 oz. I want to make sure of the correct formulation. Then I will mix 1 drop with 5 drops of citric acid .

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Old 03-08-2009, 11:50 PM   #13
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Okay, sorry for jumping in without knowledge of what you are doing. Have just started taking MMS myself, so I am very conscious of the directions. Good Luck

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Old 03-13-2009, 10:07 PM   #14
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UPDATE

Hey all, hope your all well.

Not been on in a while...i stopped taking MMS since the new baby arrived...just had loads on my plate, some redudancies at work etc....

Anyway all is good.

Even though i stopped taking MMS orally, i have not stopped soaking my feet in MMS every night. (usually 8 to 10 drops with tap water in a bowl)

I have the pictures of progrees.....THIS STUFF WORKS FOR ME!!!!

Bit of background - I have had athletes foot on and off for 20 years but also had a toe fungi infection on a few toe nails. One on my right foot is the worst.

I have tried all the medicines from the docs you can get. The paste and Lamisil - none have ever worked.

So I watched the Jim Humble video and decided to use MMS to cleanse myself but to see if this stuff could clear up my toe fungi - well its working.

Have a look at these pics, before and current shots.

Before
http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/u...k/IMG_2621.jpg
http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/u...k/IMG_2636.jpg
http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/u...k/IMG_2642.jpg
http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/u...k/IMG_2644.jpg

Current after shots

My middle toe on my right foot is the worst...ugly bugger. But as you can see, there is a white band of new nail coming through from the bottom. The pictures do not do it justice. I cant explain how amazing my feet look in general...loads better. My mum and wife cant believe how good they look.

http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/u...k/IMG_2880.jpg
http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/u...k/IMG_2879.jpg
http://i660.photobucket.com/albums/u...k/IMG_2878.jpg

It works for me

Edit - just wanted to add. Obviuosly I have not just soaked in MMS. I have also filed my worse toe a little and snipped it some. But i think you can agree - big difference. I will add more photos soon - im not too good with a camera.

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Old 03-21-2009, 05:28 AM   #15
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UPDATE

Hey all, hope your all well.

Not been on in a while...i stopped taking MMS since the new baby arrived...just had loads on my plate, some redudancies at work etc....

Edit - just wanted to add. Obviuosly I have not just soaked in MMS. I have also filed my worse toe a little and snipped it some. But i think you can agree - big difference. I will add more photos soon - im not too good with a camera.
High Five Flashback,

Congratulations are in order in more ways than one.

Happy to hear the new baby arrived and all are adjusting well.

Awesome news on the toenail fungus. Can you just imagine the changes taking place inside your body that you cannot see.

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Old 03-21-2009, 05:56 AM   #16
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How does mms affect the pineal ,and pituitary glands? I started takeing it, and then i stopped, because thats the G8 way out of Hell. Does anyone know ,or ever thought about this? HELP !!! You can destroy the pineal gland just by drinking to much soda,and MMS is like BLEACH.
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Old 03-21-2009, 07:12 AM   #17
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How does mms affect the pineal ,and pituitary glands? I started takeing it, and then i stopped, because thats the G8 way out of Hell. Does anyone know ,or ever thought about this? HELP !!! You can destroy the pineal gland just by drinking to much soda,and MMS is like BLEACH.
Hey 777, good question. I started the MMS two months ago and it has definitely cleared up several issues. I even killed off pnuemonia over a 48 hour period a couple weeks ago with some heavy doses. Then I had some of your thoughts about what this stuff would do to 'balance' internally. Evidently, it has around a 13 PH level right?

I feel 'clearer' and better than I have felt in years so whatever it was that was accumulating inside over the years has been clearing up or dissolving.

I did notice that several times I had to up the dosage once in awhile in order to advance in protocol, so maybe certain thresholds have to be pushed through. But I don't sense any negative effects with high doses or long term use.

Actually it is empowering knowing that this stuff can work so well on so many different issues. Of course it is not a nutritional substance so healthy helpings of nutritional food should help restore some chemical attributes the pineal and pituitary could use, and maybe a little bit more effective now.
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Hey 777, good question. I started the MMS two months ago and it has definitely cleared up several issues. I even killed off pnuemonia over a 48 hour period a couple weeks ago with some heavy doses. Then I had some of your thoughts about what this stuff would do to 'balance' internally. Evidently, it has around a 13 PH level right?

I feel 'clearer' and better than I have felt in years so whatever it was that was accumulating inside over the years has been clearing up or dissolving.

I did notice that several times I had to up the dosage once in awhile in order to advance in protocol, so maybe certain thresholds have to be pushed through. But I don't sense any negative effects with high doses or long term use.

Actually it is empowering knowing that this stuff can work so well on so many different issues. Of course it is not a nutritional substance so healthy helpings of nutritional food should help restore some chemical attributes the pineal and pituitary could use, and maybe a little bit more effective now.
What is your dosage right now, and do you plan on a continuious program. 13 ph is pretty high, when the
Cre8or's ph is 7. Sometimes things can be doing well in some areas and destructive in others.
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What is your dosage right now, and do you plan on a continuious program. 13 ph is pretty high, when the
Cre8or's ph is 7. Sometimes things can be doing well in some areas and destructive in others.
Right now I can only handle 1- 15 drop dose a day taken at night so I can have a clear head for work. On the weekends though I started back to 2 - 15 drop doses. My plan is to eventually get to 2 and then 3- 15 drop doses during the day yet still function at work but to make it past the protocol end eventually. I just started adding a 1/4 teaspoon of DMSO in a seperate glass of water 1/2 hour before the MMS at night to give the MMS a little bus ride deeper into tissues.

A good friend of mine in Florida loves his own personal experiments with many alternative products in order to find out their vulnerabilities and faults. He has totally overloaded himself with the MMS just to see his body reactions in as many areas as he could pay attention too, and well... he hasn't been able to tear it down yet and just the other day he did 10- 15 drop doses and finally had no adverse detox reactions, maybe he is just a little silly for doing that but he has certainly tested it for his own understanding.

I don't plan on long term usage once I can find that threshold of no reaction at 3 x's 15 drops a day. I do think that slower protocol gives the body a better chance at healing along the way, and I am starting to understand why Jim Humble said it is possible to increase the lifespan by up to 25 years!!!!
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Also... I just found out about the class action lawsuits against doctors and hospitals for administering MRI's when they offered the contrast injections which they told patients was just Iodine, but turns out it is a toxic soup called 'Gadolinium'.

So anyone whom has had an MRI with this stuff injected into their body has a substance inside them that hardens the tissues all over. So we'll see if the DMSO and MMS combination can restore what that **** screwed up!

And get this... a side effect of MMS for me was I can no longer stand the taste or smell of coffee... go figure! My craving switched over to Orange Juice which of course is acid but turns alkaline in the body so my body chemistry has changed which changed my desire.

Maybe the Teeter Toter effect helps bring the balance back?

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Also... I just found out about the class action lawsuits against doctors and hospitals for administering MRI's when they offered the contrast injections which they told patients was just Iodine, but turns out it is a toxic soup called 'Gadolinium'.

So anyone whom has had an MRI with this stuff injected into their body has a substance inside them that hardens the tissues all over. So we'll see if the DMSO and MMS combination can restore what that **** screwed up!
I've taken 15 drops a day and feel nothing ,no sickness at all. Does this mean i have some mean parasites.
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Old 03-21-2009, 08:09 AM   #22
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Friend of mine is real healthy she took 10 the first time and 15 the second and then went to 2 times a day at 15 right away and plus she was drinking it! She does eat very well though.

But like for me and everyone I know, taking large doses in the morning will make ya sick even with her.

I do 1 15 dose with DMSO every other night that's about all I can handle atm.
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Old 03-21-2009, 04:34 PM   #23
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Friend of mine is real healthy she took 10 the first time and 15 the second and then went to 2 times a day at 15 right away and plus she was drinking it! She does eat very well though.

But like for me and everyone I know, taking large doses in the morning will make ya sick even with her.

I do 1 15 dose with DMSO every other night that's about all I can handle atm.
Hi: what is DMSO & where do I get it? What specifically does it do for the body?
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Old 03-21-2009, 05:38 PM   #24
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DMSO traditionally used as a topical - it is readily absorbed into the skin, and will take anything it comes in contact deeply into the tissues also.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyl_sulfoxide

I think it is used both orally and topically with MMS. I don't have the protocol handy, but here is a series of 13 Q&As about the use of MMS with DMSO
http://mmsadvisor.com/?cat=196

and here's a topic about it in the 76 page thread at CureZone http://www.curezone.com/forums/am.asp?i=1152753

In the US, we'd find it in a healthfood store. I don't know about Canada.

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I've taken 15 drops a day and feel nothing ,no sickness at all. Does this mean i have some mean parasites.
Parasites are the easiest for MMS to kill off. It is the bacteria and virus' and heavy metal that takes a little more time.

You perhaps are one of the lucky ones whom have less to tackle!!!
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