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Old 12-18-2008, 12:03 AM   #11
Czymra
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Default Re: JAMES: The WingMakers Interview on Camelot

Half of the time you simply lose me with what seems to be finickiness. There is too much terminology in most of what is thrown about here, and something just doesn't feel right about it.
Nevertheless, this post was VERY enlightening. Asteram might be just the right catalyst this discussion needs.

I am not able to present my own 'system of belief' in any depth or profoundness as either of you are, and I think that is good. I have a problem with dogmas, fixed values and the idea of 'good and bad'.

So let me ask you a few questions in the hope you can give me some answers to make my own path:

As mentioned, I struggle with 'good or bad' and what you describe falls quite clearly into those categories. There is a true and a false hierarchy. There is a Christ and an Anti-Christ, there is negative energy and positive energy.
I can see how these polarities are of importance on our 'plane' but always considered that once you leave the lower planes everything just 'is'. I'm told that the spiritual masters sit there doing nothing because 'everything will be fine, it all goes it's due course. The negative and the positive play their roles to lead everybody to their realisation, eventually they are of no importance since we are all immortal anyway.'

This leads directly into what I think is called the Buddahood, the Satori or similar and as I also mentioned before this seems to tie in with Zen or Buddhism in general. It is thus exemplified that one does not ascend, one just works toward the gateless gate (James' invisible prison) and being able to pass through it. Maybe I'm just hung up with the beauty of that idea, but why is that 'wrong'?

Lastly, why is it Christ here and Krishna there and I AM in the end? Patchwork-spiritualism is clearly the nature of true discernment but you seem to be quite decisive in your terminology. Does it matter? Do words matter? Is Rock'n Roll Music really there to further satan and how could it be that those spells work? This doesn't seem to fit with the well established spiritual philosophies propagated so far, at all for the simple reason that they say 'all is one', how can you then reject another? You do not seem to be interested at all in the concept of 'the world is your mirror'.

Nevertheless, I have come to be convinced that evil cloaks in the most positive dresses and I am thus extremely weary. This section expresses my thoughts on this better than I could do it myself.
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The false hierarchy rarely appear as they are. They have established a familiar MO which always seems to work for them. They have always masked their activities behind a veneer of singular righteousness and service to others. Given that human beings have been largely stripped of "true identity" we tend to rely on external forces for guidance and sustenance so we have always fallen for their personalities and philosophies. They invariably veil their agenda behind props of piety and lofty principles. Should they fail to destroy a principle of truth which the people hold as axiomatic they will feign sympathy for it and add it to their own repertoir. Anything to appeal to their prey. Everything is fair game and useable as a hook to catch their prey. They have their finger on the popular pulse while spoonfeeding it with lies, feeding the soul unstoppable truths and telling us what we want to hear. Such a versatile and resposive beast will appear as it must to serve itself.
You say to identify the 'false hierarchy' and I completely with you on that regard. However, what then?

Thanks,
Czymra
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