Wingmakers: Fact, Fiction, or Good Story with some truth...

[Mystic Pilgrim]

I believe Endjoy you took Milk and Honey’s criticism of James out-of-context. The point he/she was making was that James did make a sweeping generalization or statement, declared as fact, that all the great minds of this world, despite their greatness and Oneness with the SI, are still inferior because they are still connected or are trapped with the HMS. I, for one, believe the Great Minds have already encountered the SI, or why should they be called “the Enlightened Ones”?

The problem with James is that there is nothing largely ORIGINAL with all of his writings. Other than the esoteric writing, fancy names and acronyms James uses – which up to now I am having a hard time remembering -- it is, to my analysis, an amalgamation of different philosophical and spiritual sayings from some of the great minds of this Earth. This is one reason why a lot of us, including initially myself, highly resonate with these writings.

But content-wise, it doesn’t mean that we cannot use it. I still think his “Techniques of the Intuitive Mind” are most helpful in generating compassion from the heart. But to say that these are original ideas is certainly and obviously a lie and even a sacrilege to the great masters of spiritual thought. And that is where the problem is – when people might mistake it for such – the work of an even greater mind.

The image of the SI in this link: http://www.sovereignintegral.org/ is also not unique. Rather a combination of the 3rd eye chakra system and that of the winged discs out of Ancient Egypt. I would rather continue meditating under Buddhist tenets which teaches of compassion, moderation and also, Oneness in Mind than to be eternally trapped in an SI of such mediocrity and blandness.

Another thing that I actually found odd ever since I started reading the Wingmakers materials since 2003, when I was researching on the internet for info to explain my newly heightened faculties, was that I never resonated with the paintings nor the so-called futuristic music. Try as I might, I could not elicit a “heightened awareness”, which is what the WMM has been claiming will be generated, every time I looked at the paintings or even listened to snippets of the music.

I find this rather odd because I could go into feelings of rapture while listening to the Gregorian Chants since I was a child (basically the traditional choral recordings or live performances of the chants, not the modern, synthesized, jazzed up versions), even before I found out that they were the Solfeggio frequencies, as discussed by GregorArturo, one of our Project Avalon members in a separate thread. Or be humbly enthralled while looking at Salvador Dali’s painting, the Crucifixion (Corpus Hypercubus), certainly an astounding work of art by the master.

Unfortunately, I couldn’t say the same for the WMM chamber paintings. I find them a curious hodgepodge of different tribal and ethnic symbolisms put together, with a touch of new age mysticism for effect. Other than that – it doesn’t raise my vibrations, try as I might. But perhaps, as the site had said, it was created for a specific purpose – to raise our higher faculties to meet the SI. I personally find them entertaining ― no more than that.

Now as I was researching a bit into this Wingmakers lore, I found this link: http://www.bielek-debunked.com/Wingmaker.html. It is written by Marshall Barnes, the UFO researcher, and claims of having talked with Hempel through written correspondence as early as 1998 – something that I have not known since I started reading the WMM materials only in 2003.

Apparently according to this link, the UFO scientific community back in 1998 was already grilling Mark Hempel for his very commercially oriented Wingmakers website and its veracity. Mark, according to the interview, even went out to comment that James “. . . is meeting with scientists and is not someone who aspires to be in the limelight.”. Now I thought he was publicity-shy?

Have a read and judge for yourself.

Endjoy, after reading all your postings, I do honestly and strongly believe you are the one with an agenda.

[Frank Samuel]

I for one have my reasons not to completely dismissed the wingmakers site . Anonimity does not work if you give your name and website link. James who ever this person or fictional character is needs to come out in the open to help us better understand. Did he acquire his knowledge from past lives regresion, studying from different masters or just simply reading. This is important in particular when one is claiming a certain graps of the truth. There's a contradiction in his explanation of Anu as being the God of this planet , a duality that is both God and satan at the same time. This makes compassion and aggression, hate and love, life and death, selfishness and selflessness of equal value. Thus in reality makes very little sense it goes against the teachings of many great spiritual masters. Anyone who is clear about our true origin would not consider our origin as a constant contradiction, this would mean the total aniliation of all if one cannot gain mastery over our own contradictory nature.
Thus what is the point of even trying. The annunaki are part of the mythology of our planet history, many things need to be understood about our so called ancestors, remember James claim that humans where the only 3 dimesional beings in the universe. I am not putting James down , I believe that we could graps any concept , I do not believe that we have to wait 3 more generations. Understanding goes far beyond words, it is a mixture of sounds and frequencies which resonates within ones soul. My congratulations to all the project avalon members for we are not easily persuaded by fancy terminologies without substance, this is part of our awakening process fully demostrating that all of us are capable of grasping all kinds of truth wether fictional or non fictional.

[Czymra]

May I ask what others thought about the passage EndJoy quoted from Dr. Neruda?
That rings very true to me.

Something I don't understand is why everyone here is so hung up with 'facts'. I mean, what are facts? Clearly many of you have experiences they can't prove scientifically, so why would you at all be interested in making such a statement?
How do you, in your personal practice draw the line between pure channelling and that which is intercepted by 'lower beings'?

[efields]

Originally Posted by Czymra

May I ask what others thought about the passage EndJoy quoted from Dr. Neruda?
That rings very true to me.

Something I don't understand is why everyone here is so hung up with 'facts'. I mean, what are facts? Clearly many of you have experiences they can't prove scientifically, so why would you at all be interested in making such a statement?
How do you, in your personal practice draw the line between pure channelling and that which is intercepted by 'lower beings'?

Yes some of the semantic arguments are ridiculous. They are akin to Seth Shostack stating the off worlders could not be coming here as the distances are too vast...sic Our knowledge of Reality is akin to pointing a finger at the moon and howling. We simply barely possess a rudimentary understanding of our reality. And many religious zealots are so full of themselves they quote whatever Book they choose to believe as reality. We my friend are in Dark ages and believe ourselves to be state of the art. Well you see the UFO and just know, its not so.

[milk and honey]

Originally Posted by efields

Yes some of the semantic arguments are ridiculous. They are akin to Seth Shostack stating the off worlders could not be coming here as the distances are too vast...sic Our knowledge of Reality is akin to pointing a finger at the moon and howling. We simply barely possess a rudimentary understanding of our reality. And many religious zealots are so full of themselves they quote whatever Book they choose to believe as reality.

Well i presented a few quotes and paraphrasings from the teachings of Jesus, Guatama and Krishna. I did so to compare them to the WM and amply illustrated the obvious cross pollination of concepts which James claims as brand new revelations from the WM.

Does that validate those concepts from the adepts? Or does it invalidate those same concepts in the WMM?

In your estimation, does quoting the older teachings make me "full of myself" and one of those "religious zealots" too?

[milk and honey]

Originally Posted by Frank Samuel

Did he acquire his knowledge from past lives regresion, studying from different masters or just simply reading. This is important in particular when one is claiming a certain graps of the truth.

In my view he has parsed a sizable chunk of the religious and metaphysical literature, may even have fallen for a false teacher himself at one time and he's now sufficiently well researched to present the world with the greatest story ever told and the greatest chutzpah it has ever seen. James claims to be "just like you" yet "not exactly" because of his unique ability to translate information from higher levels of reality.... aka, channelling. If he is a channel rather than a 'creative writer' (alone or in concert) then he is a channel for astral entities like most other channellors are. Given the philosophical, historical and psychological targets of the WMM i find it impossible to believe it originates from the true spiritual Hierarchy.

Originally Posted by Frank Samuel

There's a contradiction in his explanation of Anu as being the God of this planet , a duality that is both God and satan at the same time. This makes compassion and aggression, hate and love, life and death, selfishness and selflessness of equal value. Thus in reality makes very little sense it goes against the teachings of many great spiritual masters. Anyone who is clear about our true origin would not consider our origin as a constant contradiction, this would mean the total aniliation of all if one cannot gain mastery over our own contradictory nature. Thus what is the point of even trying.

I see what you mean. On another message board earlier this year i had a similar objection to the "Ra" material. I am convinced that the concept in question is false. That is, at the periphery of life - where most of humanity dwell - the dualistic forces are created by the freewill of creative beings, ie, ourselves and all other fractured personalities in the multiverse. That creative domain is a cauldron of relative opposional forces produced by (and atracted to) ourselves in a state of spiritual blindness. It's forms appear real only to those who cannot see through them by realising "true identity".

The twist which the "Ra" channellings perpetuate, and which the WMM now reinforces, is the claim that this schitzophrenic play of oppositional forces is God's true nature. Granted, it has been confirmed by those who have percieved the essence of Self (and therefore all forms) that All is One. Jesus, Guatama and others realised the logos at the heart of themselves and of all forms. They saw the "true nature" of things not merely their outer forms. They percieved that all forms - physical, astral, mental and etheric - are comprised IN ESSENCE of the same consciousness which animates themselves.... The Logos. Conceptually at least, this idea is fairly widespread.

It is a far stretch however, for "Ra" and the "WM" to claim that the periphery of life reflects the true nature and intent of the Creator at it's centre. Those who know, say it is not so. Appearances are clearly decieving to most people but not to some who (for their own agenda) know that their representations in this regard are fraudulent. If Anu exists as an evil being then he certainly has not created the universe.

The logos is the source of the 'river of life' whose energy flows through us as creatve force to form that which we concieve in the mind... thoughtforms, feeling forms, physical forms made with hands. The energy flows through us continually and we each impress it with our mental/emotional patterns. We are in the process of creating and reinforcing those patterns continually sowing the energies into form and reaping the karmic harvest. The adepts discovered this personal creative process and revealed it to all.

In their personal union with the logos the adepts proved that the dualistic manifestions apparent on the screen of life were created by the relatively ignorant and malicious minds of beings (like ourselves) trapped (by ignorance) in the external planes. They discovered that the oppositional, warring forces that appear to our senses were not concieved by the logos and do not express it's true nature and identity. The divisions deep within the psyche of man and woman are responsible for the warring nature of external forces. ALL oppositional forces/appearances have been woven out of the ONE light of the logos and cast upon the screen of life (the material planes) through the distorted lens of our own minds.

As we each re-awaken to the inner logos we are empowered with a vision to transcend and transmute the discord of our miscreations and destructive impulses which were produced in a state of ignorance (of the logos). We are not simply born into a world where the evil ANU has produced a psychic prison for us. The limitations of our belief that oppositional forces are real is the unfortunate karmic product of aeons of incarnations in the lower worlds spent ignorant of the logos. But it is not the true nature of God at the heart of those forces. God's true identity has simply been trapped (by our own creative processes) in a false identity which can be transformed under the melting rays of the inner sun when realised consciously.

The COMPLIMENTARY FORCES of spirit are at the core of everything... The flow of the 'river of life' out of that spiritual Source passes though each individual lifestream (you and me) and obediently conforms to the patterns of the mind. When we awaken to the source of it we know the resolution of appearances.

So, i agree with you Frank Samuel. I believe that James' WMM and the "Ra" material are both trying to reinforce a distorted description of God's nature for slightly different reasons. In "Ra's" case, it encourages souls to choose the "Service To Self" (STS) path by instilling the belief that STS is actually an expression of the true nature of the ONE and therefore is supposedly a valid route to re-union with the ONE. As if the gross harm involved were actually a true expression of God's true nature.

We are invited by "Ra" to choose either "Service to Others" (STO) or "Service to Self" (STS) as equally valid paths to Ascension/Union with the ONE. We are told that somewhere up around '6D negative' the "STSelfers" can "easily" merge across to '6D positive' and move on to re-Union with the ONE. This idea is ill-intentioned gobbledegook calculated to decieve hopeful fools (on the path of STS) that they are on the right path and can wait 'till later (in '6D negative') to concern themselves with an "easy" transition to '6D positive' whence they can complete their ascension to God. And all this is ostensibly based on the "reality" of oppositional polarities as the supposed true nature of the One. No mention is made of the fact that souls on a STS path must reincarnate to serve those they have harmed in order to balance their lawful karmic responsibilities. In the low vibration of their black hearts they absolutely will not sail through "6D positive" then on to re-union with the ONE. After what they've done, and if opportunuty remains open to them, they will simply return to earth in a worse state of consciousness to shoulder their grievous karmic burden. This particular "Ra" (who is not the same 'Ra' Edgar Cayce spoke of) is not 'serving others' by leading them so badly astray. But what have we come to expect from 'service to self' entities? They wrap themselves in a garment of piety and truth.

Which brings me to the twist in James' WMM and why a schitzophrenic mask is being sold as the true nature of the creator of the universe. Anu is NOT the creator of the universe or multiverse. James probably read that somewhere on the internet but he would know it is not true and i will try to illustrate why.

The omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent spirit of the logos is the intelligent, loving power at the heart of creation. It flows through the Elohim who assist in the conception of the material multiverse as a laboratory of self discovery for souls to fulfill creative purpose. It was not created by 'Anu' as a trap for our souls. But, some beings (call one Anu if you like there are many other names) rebelled against the divine plan (for our souls in the multiverse) and fell into a lower state of consciousness and the habitation of the lower astral and physical planes. Ever since the fall, they've been dedicated to the enslavement of other souls. Having knowledge in the laws and uses, they have resorted to war by all means... Light, Sound, heat, rays of all kinds, incantations, black magic, mind control in church and state, etc etc etc. It is a Battle of Armaggedon in the material planes that has been raging for aeons, it is not exclusively a future battle ..... though one may come. They always do.

If we are to believe James, the evil alien god Anu is resposible for creating the universe as a trap at it's foundation. What is the subtext of a statement like that? The primary cause of our ignorance and entrapment has always been the wicked Anu for creating the hitherto impenetrable walls of the multiverse. We are not really responsible ourselves for falling into duality consciousness and for our appetite and desire to perpetuate it. No, the primary responsibility for that lies with the omnipotent, irascible Anu, not with ourselves.

Is there justice in the universe? There certainly is and we would not be in our current predicament as a race if we had not personally constructed the walls of our own prison. There has never been a time during our sojourn on Earth when we were incapable of deconstructing the psychic conditions that have blinded us and bound us to terra firma. In fact, at least twice before, we succeeded to a high degree in doing just that. In the process of deconstructing the image of pseudo identity we rose into our true identity... for a while. But we keep falling back into the darkness of ignorance and vulnerability to the subtle scams and scam artists who attempt to keep us in that state. The enemy is a part of ourselves (the blind ego) and also the external entities who appeal to it in order to keep us blind.

Originally Posted by Frank Samuel

I do not believe that we have to wait 3 more generations.
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Neither do I.

[Czymra]

That was thorough yet again, Milk and Honey. I have not studied the WMM in any profoundness but my recollection is that Anu is in fact described as one of the 'lower beings' as he is not 'First Source' which I believe is equivalent to 'Logos'. That is to say that he is only the creator of the HMS which is (unfortunately) the whole material plane/universe (or more).
Be that as it may, there are many of us who find the material enlightening to some extent. If you ignored the 'mythical' bits about James' concept, can there be any harm in his discourses etc?

All the best,
Czymra

[milk and honey]

Originally Posted by Czymra

That was thorough yet again, Milk and Honey. I have not studied the WMM in any profoundness but my recollection is that Anu is in fact described as one of the 'lower beings' as he is not 'First Source' which I believe is equivalent to 'Logos'. That is to say that he is only the creator of the HMS which is (unfortunately) the whole material plane/universe (or more).
Be that as it may, there are many of us who find the material enlightening to some extent. If you ignored the 'mythical' bits about James' concept, can there be any harm in his discourses etc?

All the best,
Czymra

That's right Czymra. I was contrasting the difference between Anu who did not create the universe and the Logos who did. ie, The material planes were not created by Anu. Together, we have all densified the original template of the material planes. We are all responsible for that.