Melbourne/Victoria - Page 6

Lt Ripley · 10-13-2008, 08:37 AM

Thanks for the link Robski,

I'm still a bit sceptical of these books....somehow still reminds me of those "special Demtel steak knives" if anyone still remembers that! LOL

Robski · 10-13-2008, 09:27 AM

Lt Ripley,

It's been a while since I've seen that ad. I think they should bring it back for an old time laugh. I came across many whom had read the whole volume and some who were on their 3 or 4th volume that purchased the remainder at the exhibit area during the Nexus conference. They all had a life changing experience.

As I often meditate, visions of images that depicted the story of Anastasia appeared many months before I ever knew this existed. In fact this was the sole reason as to why I booked a flight to attend the Nexus conference.

sirdiablo69 · 10-13-2008, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace2all

Thanks Sirdiablo69 for your feedback, I felt a bit silly mentioning it but as parents and all - just seeing others had any views on it. Your info regarding the laws with Australia and US was appreciated. From what I have read Australia has no law stating Australian citizens rights or martial law in Australia. Do you know much about this. I saw a guy on A Current Affair programs some time this year wanting a bill of rights for Aust. Citizens to cover martial law rights etc.
I also agree with others that we should not live in fear - but at the same time safety or doubts should considered. Pep

Gday,
l shall endevour to share with you a method in common use, albeit one of many to control subdue public decent, it works really really good as you might notice, you may already know this one. Picture this ten to twenty fully armed troops in your home street of say fifty to eighty people, totally unexpectedly they are in your street, then they nock on every door/or kick it in then herd all the residents out in the street so you your neighboors are faced with heavily armed well trained killers, of course some citizens object, most do as they are told for fear of retribution, then they choose the biggest most intimidationg neighboor and perhaps include one or two outspoken neighbors which they execute in front of all the rest of the people so they all se whats happening, it might be a quick death it might be a more iolent such as a beheading then the remainder of your neighbors a good 60 or seventy people are told to do exactly as they are told otherwise they son or their daughter or their wife gets the same treatment or worse, then they all get to return to there homes , with the knowledge and belief that if they dont cause any trouble do exactly as they are told they and their loved might just live to see a better day.
And that plus that and worse is how a relatively small number of solders can maintain control over a much larger population.
Add to that that in Australia thanks to the port athur masacare by Martin Bryant, nearly nobody has/owns or bothers to own, any weapons/firearms that would be be of any real determent to martial law implimentation.

sirdiablo69 · 10-13-2008, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace2all

Thanks Sirdiablo69 for your feedback, I felt a bit silly mentioning it but as parents and all - just seeing others had any views on it. Your info regarding the laws with Australia and US was appreciated. From what I have read Australia has no law stating Australian citizens rights or martial law in Australia. Do you know much about this. I saw a guy on A Current Affair programs some time this year wanting a bill of rights for Aust. Citizens to cover martial law rights etc.
I also agree with others that we should not live in fear - but at the same time safety or doubts should considered. Pep

Changes to our laws to allow for the implimentation of martial law, l assure you one and all that just like the patriot act 1 and 2 in the USA that have been implimented since 9/11, have already been written, so if/when australia has the nessecary catalyst, e.g some ******** breach in security, acted out by some ******** terrorist group, the various political factions introduce new measures/ changes in law that allow us to be lead down the same path, all in the name of freedom and security, yet it turns out to victimise the same people it claimed to protect, if they object.
i ASSURE YOU SOME WILL OBJECT whilst most will do what ever it takes to stay alive.

sirdiablo69 · 10-13-2008, 10:45 AM

DO YOU HAVE VIRTUALLY LIMITLESS POWER AND WEALTH AT YOUR FINGERTIPS? WHAT YOU DONT? READ ON
FACT there are aproximately 5,000 people on this planet that do have all the above. AFFECTIONATELY TERMED THE SUPER ELITE
So what does that mean, it means that each one of those $5,000 people have in essence a potential workforce of approximately 1,000,000 people each from whom to choose from. Do you need 1,000,000 to do your bidding for you, of course you dont, and neither do they. Even 1,000 people would be more than enough to provide you with all the help you couls possibly dream of.
PROBLEM, what do they do with the other 900.000 people that are not needed?
MMM l wonder, a good old fashioned war could help reduce the number a little maybe as many as 200.000.
That still leaves 700.000, l know maybe an AIDS virus could remove, 100,000 if they are gay/drug users.
Got another idea a pandemic perhaps something like SARS nah tried that one wasnt very effective ah l got a good idea lets dig up the dead victims from the spanish flu in 1918 that killed othe 50,000,000 world wide and lets make it more effective, great idea actually its just about ready for distribution.
ARE YOU WORRIED YET, YOU SHOULD BE?
WHAT you say it couldnt happen WHAT you say those people we vote for wouldnt let it happen, WHAT you say ROYAL FAMILIES and and the wealthy minorities that pull the strings dont want it to happen. wake up and smell the coffee your must have been in disneyland.
I will give all of you a very easy project to do qite simple and the results unfortunatelly will alarm all you good folk out there.
Bring up the topic, with friends/associates/ family members with regards the 6 billion people that reside on the planet, then happen to mention the plan for population reduction, and ask them if its a good idea, l did and was shocked to discover ho many people considered that a good/nessecary idea.
l qute agree that those same people in the interests of their fellow man should perhaps kill themselves their family etc if they want to support their desire for population reduction, l know l dont!

sirdiablo69 · 10-13-2008, 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace2all

Thanks Sirdiablo69 for your feedback, I felt a bit silly mentioning it but as parents and all - just seeing others had any views on it. Your info regarding the laws with Australia and US was appreciated. From what I have read Australia has no law stating Australian citizens rights or martial law in Australia. Do you know much about this. I saw a guy on A Current Affair programs some time this year wanting a bill of rights for Aust. Citizens to cover martial law rights etc.
I also agree with others that we should not live in fear - but at the same time safety or doubts should considered. Pep

Changes to our laws to allow for the implimentation of martial law, l assure you one and all that just like the patriot act 1 and 2 in the USA that have been implimented since 9/11, have already been written, so if/when australia has the nessecary catalyst, e.g some ******** breach in security, acted out by some ******** terrorist group, the various political factions introduce new measures/ changes in law that allow us to be lead down the same path, all in the name of freedom and security, yet it turns out to victimise the same people it claimed to protect, if they object.
i ASSURE YOU SOME WILL OBJECT whilst most will do what ever it takes to stay alive.

Peace2all · 10-14-2008, 04:55 AM

WOW.... I am worried now.... speechless. Right now I will clutch to a corny phrase.... Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. Lets hope it never gets to this. Pep

Robski · 10-14-2008, 06:06 AM

Sirdiablo69

I guess you've heard of eugenics, and the treatment of humans as nothing but experimental guinea pigs. It's been going on since the beginning of last century. The problem is that it's becoming evident more every year.

People think that EU is something that has nothing to do with us. You only have to look at what these APEC sumits are about. Clearly it is a unified agenda of forming APU (Asia Pacific Union) and bridge all continents for a one world order.

We need to focus on our very right to live in freedom and independant thinking. I can go on but I'd rather focus on the beauty of humanity instead.

sirdiablo69 · 10-14-2008, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robski

Sirdiablo69

I guess you've heard of eugenics, and the treatment of humans as nothing but experimental guinea pigs. It's been going on since the beginning of last century. The problem is that it's becoming evident more every year.

People think that EU is something that has nothing to do with us. You only have to look at what these APEC sumits are about. Clearly it is a unified agenda of forming APU (Asia Pacific Union) and bridge all continents for a one world order.

We need to focus on our very right to live in freedom and independant thinking. I can go on but I'd rather focus on the beauty of humanity instead.

YOUR FUNNY
ITS like saying Dam the neighbors dog just crapped on my lawn again,
Followed by Oh look at that beautiful flower

Robski · 10-14-2008, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirdiablo69

YOUR FUNNY
ITS like saying Dam the neighbors dog just crapped on my lawn again,
Followed by Oh look at that beautiful flower

I'm glad you've given me an external perspective of myself as I often have to look into the mirror to smile at what I see.

In regards to RUDD and his herioc US counterparts, Kissenger, Murdoch, UN buddies he's as bad as the former leader of Oz. We're not immuned from the American style of elections nor the development of governmental theatrics for the audience that are converging thinkers. The task at hand is, how do we get the message of diverging thinkers across to the majority converging thinkers. The message to awaken all has to form a behavioural change so that they will stand up and voice their opinions out loud. This is what politicians, dictators, since the existence of human civilisation have utilised for their empirical, egotistical agendas.

Oh by the way learn to breath through your belly rather than your chest; it helps provide a much calming state of being.

10-15-2008, 06:47 AM

Quote:

A Friend of mine in real life want's to go so I'm probaly 85% sure I/We will turn up I guess it will do Me some good to get sunlight again too lol.

only a week and a half to wait @.@ scarey (metaphoricaly)

Would be magical for you to come, and by all means bring your friend. The more in the Ground Crew the better.
Take care and peace be with you.
Best regards,
John
Johnno

Lt Ripley · 10-15-2008, 11:10 AM

Hi guys,

Just in support of Johnno's post earlier regarding the concern of many over security issues at the meeting: this is just a group of people coming together to exchange ideas over a coffee or tea (whatever rocks your boat).

I, for one, don't like the idea of being a cyber contributor...mainly because of its limitations. There's only so much I can do from looking at the box all day.

There are people all over the country getting together and some for relatively more sinister reasons. Don't allow fear to control your life...I've done so for many years.

I'm sure I can speak for Johnno here as well, but we're both looking forward to the meeting and would love for everyone to consider making an appearance, if possible and within their means.

On another note, I just wanted to remind those already coming to PM me their preferred T-shirt size by 17th October (Friday) so I can get cracking on those soon.

I hope everyone has a fab week!

Lt Ripley

Hoss the SURVIVER · 10-17-2008, 08:16 AM

HI ALL

Just in case Any of us VIC bandits have never heard of http://www.oism.org/nwss/ Thia is a dammed good site on nuke survival Kearnies Book I mean.

Hoss dee tell the bastards nothing fella.
E G M

pai · 10-19-2008, 12:49 AM

Hi Everyone,

I am a newcomer to these forums, but a survivalist from way back.

I live in cockatoo VIC, behind Mt Dandenong, backing onto the Warburton Ranges - which I feel is a good tactical location, should things go pear-shaped in the CBD and suburbs around the metropolitan areas, with enough time to head inland, as well as an elevated position and shielding from the mountains.

I have read as much of this thread as I can in the last week, and have enjoyed it thoroughly and am interested to hear where everyone is up to in so far as group-meetings and planning.

Keep up the good work everyone!

Pai

10-19-2008, 03:48 AM

Hello pai and a warm welcome to the Forum and the Melbourne/Victoria thread.

Cockatoo is definitely a good pozzie to be in. I doubt you'd need to go further inland.

I'm hoping that you would like to attend the Melbourne/Victoria Ground Crew meeting in the 24th? We'd love to have you come and meet everyone.

Take care my friend and please let us know if you would like to attend the meeting.
Best regards,
John
Johnno

10-19-2008, 03:53 AM

I was thinking Halls Gap and that other place where Cliff Young - the older guy who shuffled from Sydney to Melbourne - that place where he lived. Also if looking at land I myself would probably get a good dowser to check for water so I could maybe have bore? spring well water.

10-19-2008, 04:23 AM

Hello Tuza,
Aussie Babe also suggested Halls Gap when I spoke to her on the phone about a week ago.
I remember going to Halls Gap for a school holiday/excursion when I was in High school, and I absolutely loved the place.
Tuza, are you interested at all in coming to the meeting on the 24th?
Take care my friend and peace be with you.
Best regards,
John
Johnno

10-19-2008, 08:52 AM

Hi Johnno,

Could you let me know what time and place. It depends on work and other committments. I have heaps of ideas about what you could do with land but if I can't get there next week, I will relay these things to you if that is okay.

sirdiablo69 · 10-15-2008, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robski

I'm glad you've given me an external perspective of myself as I often have to look into the mirror to smile at what I see.

In regards to RUDD and his herioc US counterparts, Kissenger, Murdoch, UN buddies he's as bad as the former leader of Oz. We're not immuned from the American style of elections nor the development of governmental theatrics for the audience that are converging thinkers. The task at hand is, how do we get the message of diverging thinkers across to the majority converging thinkers. The message to awaken all has to form a behavioural change so that they will stand up and voice their opinions out loud. This is what politicians, dictators, since the existence of human civilisation have utilised for their empirical, egotistical agendas.

Oh by the way learn to breath through your belly rather than your chest; it helps provide a much calming state of being.

Gday Robski,
I sometimes like to ask people if they would like to see if GOD has a sense of humour naturally they say yes , so then l girect them to look in a mirror, Glad to hear you have achieved that enlightening experience.

As for redirecting/re=edudating the masses of humanity towards a similiar way of thinking/behaving , is quite frankly a momumental task that would effectively require years of social engineering on an enormous scale, which would require anyone/group total access to the educatian system, the mass media, most of he religous leaders etc etc, most all of the pervasive methodologies available to the existing power brokers, whomever they may be.
Even if all those tools where at our diposal, would we doing in effect really be any different to those currently in control of those facilities.
And where all that possible do we have any system available that ould create a better world.
If you are talking about rewriting the rule book and everthing that goes with it you need to realize what currently exists is in large the by product of thousands and thousands of years of civilization,
What we are doing may be just the flavour of the month, but will it stand the test of time, and will be safeguarded from any future corruption.

As noble as your intensions are perhaps uou should also ask yourself wwhat where the redifining experiences/revelations in your life that lead you to make your changes and would those same experiences work with everyone else.

sirdiablo69 · 10-15-2008, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robski

I'm glad you've given me an external perspective of myself as I often have to look into the mirror to smile at what I see.

In regards to RUDD and his herioc US counterparts, Kissenger, Murdoch, UN buddies he's as bad as the former leader of Oz. We're not immuned from the American style of elections nor the development of governmental theatrics for the audience that are converging thinkers. The task at hand is, how do we get the message of diverging thinkers across to the majority converging thinkers. The message to awaken all has to form a behavioural change so that they will stand up and voice their opinions out loud. This is what politicians, dictators, since the existence of human civilisation have utilised for their empirical, egotistical agendas.

Oh by the way learn to breath through your belly rather than your chest; it helps provide a much calming state of being.

Hi ROBSKI
at the risk of sounding like a bragart belly breathing is something lve done for the past 25 yrs

sirdiablo69 · 10-14-2008, 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Robski

Sirdiablo69

I guess you've heard of eugenics, and the treatment of humans as nothing but experimental guinea pigs. It's been going on since the beginning of last century. The problem is that it's becoming evident more every year.

People think that EU is something that has nothing to do with us. You only have to look at what these APEC sumits are about. Clearly it is a unified agenda of forming APU (Asia Pacific Union) and bridge all continents for a one world order.

We need to focus on our very right to live in freedom and independant thinking. I can go on but I'd rather focus on the beauty of humanity instead.

HEY Robski
your obviously familiar with the plan for world Government to be done in increments, the EUROPEAN UNION the NORTH AMERICAN UNION the ASIAN UNION (WHICH INCLUDES OZ) Jesus man a couple mths ago that attention seeking BONO from U2 was calling for the formation of the AFRICAN UNION then when l heard RUDD the DUD call for the ASIAN UNION l swear he lost me totally

sirdiablo69 · 10-14-2008, 06:32 AM

DIScussion regards Martial Law Scenorios,
The threat of Martial Law is only one of many many control mechanisms, available. Those methods in part we all to some extent employ for personal use, be it a simple punishment/reward system to encourage desirable behaviour in others, which features more obviously in the training of domestic pets or rather obtrusively used among human interactions.
l would suppose therfore in any real evaluation of the above one would need to consider how much is too much and how much is too little.
As well to consider factors involving the freedom to choose, and make determinations that impact on our present and future, within that same field we need to ask ourselves the question do we really want to be personally involved in every single desicion that gets made, an easy example is does it matter if you eat chicken tonight or do you prefer pork. Does IT matter if THEY use detergent A or Detregent B when they wash your clothes, Of course the list can be endless number of chioces, at some piont we decied that some of the decision making can be left to others.
That then in turn gives someone else the chioces that are made for us usually without to many problems.
BUT HERE LIES THE REAL PROBLEM
their amongst us those whom see this role as a goldern opportunity to sieze control of whom and whatever they like, and make a wonderful profit in the process, rather like a tax.
Over Time these same desicion makers, also make desicions regards the fate of many, and argue its for the greater good od us all.Then bring in their expects analysts claiming its too complicated for the untrained to make such informed chioces so their paid experts make them for us, all for the greater good
Over Time the desicion makers/leaders and their chior or experts become distanced, and quite seperate from those effected by those descisions, and begin to veiw themselves as the chosen ones left to decide the fate of the human race, believing in part the mainstream population couldnt isnt capable of the nessecary chioces made for the greater good, so they choose our fate for us because thats what they ro best.
If along the way others have to die or be imprisoned, to maintain our desicion makers postions and future so be it after all its for the greater good
DO YOU GET THE PICTURE BECAUSE THE PICTURE GETS REALLY REALLY UGLY

sirdiablo69 · 10-14-2008, 06:41 AM

AS DETESTABLE AS IT IS HOMER SIMPSON TELLS HIS WIFE DO YOU WANT THE TRUTH YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH, SO HE DOESNT TELL HER THE WRONG HE HAS DONE, and that in my opinion is what we are faced with when dealing with those in power. We so not get the truth from them because if we did we would say WHY THE HELL DIDNT YOU TELL ME, AND WHY THE HELL DID YOU LEAVE IT SO LATE WHEN YOU DID, YOUR FIRED IMMEDIATELLY, WOULD LIKELY BE OUR RESPONSE.

Robski · 10-14-2008, 06:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirdiablo69

AS DETESTABLE AS IT IS HOMER SIMPSON TELLS HIS WIFE DO YOU WANT THE TRUTH YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH, SO HE DOESNT TELL HER THE WRONG HE HAS DONE, and that in my opinion is what we are faced with when dealing with those in power. We so not get the truth from them because if we did we would say WHY THE HELL DIDNT YOU TELL ME, AND WHY THE HELL DID YOU LEAVE IT SO LATE WHEN YOU DID, YOUR FIRED IMMEDIATELLY, WOULD LIKELY BE OUR RESPONSE.

This is the very reason that we need to take on the thinking for ourselves and have society reclaim it's rightful ownership of ITSELF!

Robski · 10-14-2008, 06:50 AM

There is a common ground here.
THE UGLINESS IS THE FATE OF THE BILDENBERG GROUP NOT OURS.
Time is running out I admit, but we the people, the very birth right of this planet, will undergo a psychological awakening or cleansing before the handful of low vibrational, power hungry individuals (of which there are so few), will see their objectives fulfilled.

10-13-2008, 08:37 AM	#1
Lt Ripley Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 111	Re: Melbourne/Victoria Thanks for the link Robski, I'm still a bit sceptical of these books....somehow still reminds me of those "special Demtel steak knives" if anyone still remembers that! LOL

10-13-2008, 09:27 AM	#2
Robski Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 71	Re: Melbourne/Victoria Lt Ripley, It's been a while since I've seen that ad. I think they should bring it back for an old time laugh. I came across many whom had read the whole volume and some who were on their 3 or 4th volume that purchased the remainder at the exhibit area during the Nexus conference. They all had a life changing experience. As I often meditate, visions of images that depicted the story of Anastasia appeared many months before I ever knew this existed. In fact this was the sole reason as to why I booked a flight to attend the Nexus conference.

10-13-2008, 10:45 AM	#5
sirdiablo69 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: melbourne australia Posts: 87	Re: Melbourne/Victoria DO YOU HAVE VIRTUALLY LIMITLESS POWER AND WEALTH AT YOUR FINGERTIPS? WHAT YOU DONT? READ ON FACT there are aproximately 5,000 people on this planet that do have all the above. AFFECTIONATELY TERMED THE SUPER ELITE So what does that mean, it means that each one of those $5,000 people have in essence a potential workforce of approximately 1,000,000 people each from whom to choose from. Do you need 1,000,000 to do your bidding for you, of course you dont, and neither do they. Even 1,000 people would be more than enough to provide you with all the help you couls possibly dream of. PROBLEM, what do they do with the other 900.000 people that are not needed? MMM l wonder, a good old fashioned war could help reduce the number a little maybe as many as 200.000. That still leaves 700.000, l know maybe an AIDS virus could remove, 100,000 if they are gay/drug users. Got another idea a pandemic perhaps something like SARS nah tried that one wasnt very effective ah l got a good idea lets dig up the dead victims from the spanish flu in 1918 that killed othe 50,000,000 world wide and lets make it more effective, great idea actually its just about ready for distribution. ARE YOU WORRIED YET, YOU SHOULD BE? WHAT you say it couldnt happen WHAT you say those people we vote for wouldnt let it happen, WHAT you say ROYAL FAMILIES and and the wealthy minorities that pull the strings dont want it to happen. wake up and smell the coffee your must have been in disneyland. I will give all of you a very easy project to do qite simple and the results unfortunatelly will alarm all you good folk out there. Bring up the topic, with friends/associates/ family members with regards the 6 billion people that reside on the planet, then happen to mention the plan for population reduction, and ask them if its a good idea, l did and was shocked to discover ho many people considered that a good/nessecary idea. l qute agree that those same people in the interests of their fellow man should perhaps kill themselves their family etc if they want to support their desire for population reduction, l know l dont! Last edited by sirdiablo69; 10-13-2008 at 10:59 AM.

10-14-2008, 04:55 AM	#7
Peace2all Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Australia, Melb. Posts: 50	Re: Melbourne/Victoria WOW.... I am worried now.... speechless. Right now I will clutch to a corny phrase.... Hope for the best, prepare for the worst. Lets hope it never gets to this. Pep

10-14-2008, 06:06 AM	#8
Robski Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 71	Re: Melbourne/Victoria Sirdiablo69 I guess you've heard of eugenics, and the treatment of humans as nothing but experimental guinea pigs. It's been going on since the beginning of last century. The problem is that it's becoming evident more every year. People think that EU is something that has nothing to do with us. You only have to look at what these APEC sumits are about. Clearly it is a unified agenda of forming APU (Asia Pacific Union) and bridge all continents for a one world order. We need to focus on our very right to live in freedom and independant thinking. I can go on but I'd rather focus on the beauty of humanity instead.

10-15-2008, 11:10 AM	#12
Lt Ripley Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 111	Re: Melbourne/Victoria Hi guys, Just in support of Johnno's post earlier regarding the concern of many over security issues at the meeting: this is just a group of people coming together to exchange ideas over a coffee or tea (whatever rocks your boat). I, for one, don't like the idea of being a cyber contributor...mainly because of its limitations. There's only so much I can do from looking at the box all day. There are people all over the country getting together and some for relatively more sinister reasons. Don't allow fear to control your life...I've done so for many years. I'm sure I can speak for Johnno here as well, but we're both looking forward to the meeting and would love for everyone to consider making an appearance, if possible and within their means. On another note, I just wanted to remind those already coming to PM me their preferred T-shirt size by 17th October (Friday) so I can get cracking on those soon. I hope everyone has a fab week! Lt Ripley

10-17-2008, 08:16 AM	#13
Hoss the SURVIVER Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Central Vic Posts: 26	Re: Melbourne/Victoria HI ALL Just in case Any of us VIC bandits have never heard of http://www.oism.org/nwss/ Thia is a dammed good site on nuke survival Kearnies Book I mean. Hoss dee tell the bastards nothing fella. E G M

10-19-2008, 12:49 AM	#14
pai Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 4	Re: Melbourne/Victoria Hi Everyone, I am a newcomer to these forums, but a survivalist from way back. I live in cockatoo VIC, behind Mt Dandenong, backing onto the Warburton Ranges - which I feel is a good tactical location, should things go pear-shaped in the CBD and suburbs around the metropolitan areas, with enough time to head inland, as well as an elevated position and shielding from the mountains. I have read as much of this thread as I can in the last week, and have enjoyed it thoroughly and am interested to hear where everyone is up to in so far as group-meetings and planning. Keep up the good work everyone! Pai

10-19-2008, 03:48 AM	#15
Johnno Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Melbourne/Victoria Hello pai and a warm welcome to the Forum and the Melbourne/Victoria thread. Cockatoo is definitely a good pozzie to be in. I doubt you'd need to go further inland. I'm hoping that you would like to attend the Melbourne/Victoria Ground Crew meeting in the 24th? We'd love to have you come and meet everyone. Take care my friend and please let us know if you would like to attend the meeting. Best regards, John Johnno

10-19-2008, 03:53 AM	#16
Tuza Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Melbourne/Victoria I was thinking Halls Gap and that other place where Cliff Young - the older guy who shuffled from Sydney to Melbourne - that place where he lived. Also if looking at land I myself would probably get a good dowser to check for water so I could maybe have bore? spring well water.

10-19-2008, 04:23 AM	#17
Johnno Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Melbourne/Victoria Hello Tuza, Aussie Babe also suggested Halls Gap when I spoke to her on the phone about a week ago. I remember going to Halls Gap for a school holiday/excursion when I was in High school, and I absolutely loved the place. Tuza, are you interested at all in coming to the meeting on the 24th? Take care my friend and peace be with you. Best regards, John Johnno

10-19-2008, 08:52 AM	#18
Tuza Guest Posts: n/a	Re: Melbourne/Victoria Hi Johnno, Could you let me know what time and place. It depends on work and other committments. I have heaps of ideas about what you could do with land but if I can't get there next week, I will relay these things to you if that is okay.

10-14-2008, 06:32 AM	#22
sirdiablo69 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: melbourne australia Posts: 87	Re: Melbourne/Victoria DIScussion regards Martial Law Scenorios, The threat of Martial Law is only one of many many control mechanisms, available. Those methods in part we all to some extent employ for personal use, be it a simple punishment/reward system to encourage desirable behaviour in others, which features more obviously in the training of domestic pets or rather obtrusively used among human interactions. l would suppose therfore in any real evaluation of the above one would need to consider how much is too much and how much is too little. As well to consider factors involving the freedom to choose, and make determinations that impact on our present and future, within that same field we need to ask ourselves the question do we really want to be personally involved in every single desicion that gets made, an easy example is does it matter if you eat chicken tonight or do you prefer pork. Does IT matter if THEY use detergent A or Detregent B when they wash your clothes, Of course the list can be endless number of chioces, at some piont we decied that some of the decision making can be left to others. That then in turn gives someone else the chioces that are made for us usually without to many problems. BUT HERE LIES THE REAL PROBLEM their amongst us those whom see this role as a goldern opportunity to sieze control of whom and whatever they like, and make a wonderful profit in the process, rather like a tax. Over Time these same desicion makers, also make desicions regards the fate of many, and argue its for the greater good od us all.Then bring in their expects analysts claiming its too complicated for the untrained to make such informed chioces so their paid experts make them for us, all for the greater good Over Time the desicion makers/leaders and their chior or experts become distanced, and quite seperate from those effected by those descisions, and begin to veiw themselves as the chosen ones left to decide the fate of the human race, believing in part the mainstream population couldnt isnt capable of the nessecary chioces made for the greater good, so they choose our fate for us because thats what they ro best. If along the way others have to die or be imprisoned, to maintain our desicion makers postions and future so be it after all its for the greater good DO YOU GET THE PICTURE BECAUSE THE PICTURE GETS REALLY REALLY UGLY

10-14-2008, 06:41 AM	#23
sirdiablo69 Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: melbourne australia Posts: 87	Re: Melbourne/Victoria AS DETESTABLE AS IT IS HOMER SIMPSON TELLS HIS WIFE DO YOU WANT THE TRUTH YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH, SO HE DOESNT TELL HER THE WRONG HE HAS DONE, and that in my opinion is what we are faced with when dealing with those in power. We so not get the truth from them because if we did we would say WHY THE HELL DIDNT YOU TELL ME, AND WHY THE HELL DID YOU LEAVE IT SO LATE WHEN YOU DID, YOUR FIRED IMMEDIATELLY, WOULD LIKELY BE OUR RESPONSE.

10-14-2008, 06:50 AM	#25
Robski Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Melbourne Australia Posts: 71	Re: Melbourne/Victoria There is a common ground here. THE UGLINESS IS THE FATE OF THE BILDENBERG GROUP NOT OURS. Time is running out I admit, but we the people, the very birth right of this planet, will undergo a psychological awakening or cleansing before the handful of low vibrational, power hungry individuals (of which there are so few), will see their objectives fulfilled.