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Originally Posted by Doom

I am nothing like Chris White imo, he is a christian, and attacks what he perceives to be things that attack christianity. I have no religious ties, and no bias to narrow my world view, though I have mentioned before I believe in human spirit. And as I've stated before as well, I know many of the meanings and messages in the new testament are absolutely universal truths, such as 'The kingdom of God is within you.' But there is a difference between true spirituality and the new age, and it is well documented. Spirituality has often been used throughout history to capture people's attention and then they add the bizzare to lead the people off to la la land.

Everyone has "bias to narrow their world view". You do and so do I. The trick is to recognise that none of us are free of it and to try to uncover our own bias-- not just the bias of others. That's how we rise above the dualistic mindset of the ego and come to the truth.

As Jesus said:

..."thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam from thine own eye (your own bias based on the blindness of your own ego)
and then shalt thou see clearly to remove the splinter that is in thy brother's eye" (another's bias based on the blindness of their ego)

I am no fundamentalist christian but i sometimes quote Jesus to illustrate that although his life reflected earlier exoteric savior god myths , many incidents in his life and the majority of his teachings are unique and highly insightful which is indicative of a spiritually enlightened man. Jesus' teachings - if understood - were so far ahead of the PTB that they simply could not have invented him. The best they could do was hijack his identity and teachings to distort and use as a mask for their own purposes.

This is the same thing the PTB are doing to progressive revelation in this age. The best they can do with it today is the same thing they did with Jesus and his true Christ-ian teachings in the piscean age -- Hijack it, give it a twist and use it to their own ends.

New spiritual teachings have been released in this age (the aquarian age) and consequently a feverish attempt is being made to distort and misrepresent it. The PTB hide the biggest lie between two truths. That modus operandi is the recurring theme of the controllers of humanity throughout history. They rarely ever overtly oppose by revealing themselves as they really are, instead presenting themselves in church and state as the 'saviors' of humanity by virtue of their self appointed mediatorship and presumed 'superior intelligence'. Remember that Jesus came to shatter that illusion by revealing the inner source of our spiritual identity and personal authority. The same spoilers of freedom have now morphed into the puppet masters of (external) "alien" saviors for the "benefit" of those who are tired of their distorted mis-representation of Jesus as an idol to worship.

And who are the high priests mediating for us now with our alien gods? Why, the 'whistleblowers' of course and the intelligence agencies of the world. Does that give anyone comfort? The same deception is being played out behind a slightly different mask, that's all. Christians can't see the twist imposed upon them and neither can those hopeful of an alien solution because a similar blindness afflicts both.... a desire to abrogate personal responsibility.

In order to capture the minds of those of us who have seen through their idol, the PTB have finished with their version of Jesus and want him out of the way. For those who are still worshipping that idol - of Jesus as an external savior figure - and who still haven't finished with it the PTB continue to ply their wares to keep people distracted, blinkered, afraid and expectant of a future savior rather than a personal solution inspired now from within. There's something for everyone in all this.... "Hurry hurry... step right up... ready yourselves... external saviors coming... coming soon!"

Originally Posted by Doom

Also I am pretty much in agreement with most comments in your last post, except some stuff about 'Jesus'(i have the same morals and understanding as you about what 'jesus' taught, but I don't actually believe he existed), and one other particular statement i don't agree with 'Earth has been visited by neg aliens'. Even if it was possible, that still doesn't make it so, because there is not enough evidence other than possibilty think - which is a new age technique to get people to think that way ie 'if it is possible it must be true'

I can only say that ancient visitations to Earth by alien negs is a belief of mine.

My own experience tells me that very dark astral beings exist and it is my suspicion that some of these have come from somewhere else in the cosmos. If aliens in UFOs exist on Earth's physical plane they are negs and they live underground.

In any case i don't attribute our high technology to aliens. And I agree that the PTB are way ahead of the technology in popular use today. They incentivise the brightest minds on Earth to serve them, then classify and hoard the product of their efforts.

But also I have good reason to believe that our civilisation has not progressively risen constantly over time. Civilisation - which can be measured by the spirituality of the people (expressed in all societal systems) and by the control and peaceful use of technolgy - is something that waxes and wanes over the ages. Humanity has been through several high tech civilisations in the past yet they've always reached a spiritual and technological pinnacle which was not maintained because the people could not sustain their spiritual attainment. There is a relationship between the spirituality of the people and their technological attainments. Corrupt the heart and soul of society and you eventually destroy all of it's attainments. If the people of Earth fail to transcend the mass consciousness today then our civilisation will go the way of Atlantis and be destroyed in eventual cataclysmic destruction. History repeats this cycle over and over.

In the 1880s a book was written by a californian teenager titled "A dweller on Two Planets" (copyright 1894 - it's searchable free online). Under the direction of a spiritual adept named Phylos, Frederick Oliver described the societal systems of Atlantis and the technologies which they used. These included anti-gravity arial and submarine craft; wireless telephony, television and radio, high speed mono-rail, air conditioning, water generating machines and various other technologies all powered by free energy devices.

Phylos predicted that these and other inventions would be rediscovered in the 20th century by re-incarnating Atlanteans. He specifically predicted that the principles of anti-gravity arial flight (he outlined the design of the arial ships which the Atlanteans called the "vailix") would be rediscovered and the ships re-invented relatively early in the 20th century.

The book was dictated to Oliver at a time when a taxi was a Wells Fargo horse and carriage. If the technology of Atlantis and it's predicted re-invention sounds too incredible for the late 1800s, Phylos explained that souls re-incarnate through the ages and retain the soul memory of earlier knowledge and experiences. Some souls, he explained, would tap into that knowledge in their subsequent incarnations in the (then) coming decades of the 20th century.

Looking at Phylos' book from today's vantage point offers us one explanation for the arial craft that some ancient civilisations wrote about and drew pictorials of.

Doom, i suppose your easy answer to these revelations, given your current certainty of the way the world works, would be that the PTB had those technologies in the 1880s and that Phylos was just a mind control exercise foisted upon the boy who wrote "A Dweller on Two Planets" ... or even that the lad was a phantom front for their "new age" deception of the world. If i had no more than competing theories to cling to i would find Phylos' explanation for the questions we're talking about far more satisfying than the alternatives presented by professional "truth seekers" on that list from Dadrious. But I am certain the brotherhood of spiritual adepts are real and that they have assisted and facilitated our spiritual and technological advancement in this and prior ages. It is not merely a belief of mine.

But again, because there are incorporeal astral entities and high tech instruments of mind control at work in this world one must use discernment which originates from the spirit within in order to see things as they really are. Mental and soul attunement to spirit is the only way these questions can be clearly resolved. This is a constant challenge to everyone including those who do and do not believe (or know) that the adepts are real and work in our service to assist our spiritual growth and material feeedom.