Jordan Maxwell - Water of Grace, Water of Life (brand new documentary...

[Doom]

Originally Posted by Tag

He believes that the ones behind NWO and secret societies are the aliens.
What a joke.

Not to defend Chris White, as I have stated before he is misguided, but Jordan Maxwell is not saint. You do relize that Jordan Maxwell believes aliens are involved in all of this stuff too? He's in cahoots with sitchin, tsarion, icke, and others. they all are pushing the reptilian alien agenda in some way shape or form. Pure disinformation. Hell, Jordan Maxwell even said on Jeff Rense that him and his family shot and killed a baby t-rex in their backyard, absolutely ridiculous, Ha.

Part of waking up is exposing these fake 'truth' movement leaders set up by the PTB to mislead us, who give some truths then spin it into outterspace. We'll never get anywhere if we follow the pied pipers. It is absolutely crucial to indentify counter-intellgience/disinfo.

This documentary is very poor, although Chris White seems more genuine than Maxwell and the like, he is misguided by his religious beliefs. So here you have a someone who is wrong, showing incorrectly how someone who is wrong, is wrong. (that last sentence sounds a little funny but it makes sense lol)

[GoingToFast]

Originally Posted by Doom

Part of waking up is exposing these fake 'truth' movement leaders set up by the PTB to mislead us, who give some truths then spin it into outterspace. We'll never get anywhere if we follow the pied pipers. It is absolutely crucial to indentify counter-intellgience/disinfo.

On what grounds do you stand when you say that the "truth-movement leaders" are set up buy the PTB's, that my friend is fare reaching.
If it hadn't been for the likes of Maxwell Icke Tsarion Sitchin and MANY others we would still be living in the medieval dark-ages, thees are the kind of people that got burned at the stakes and the people that burned them were RELIGOUS FANATICS.

[Doom]

Originally Posted by GoingToFast

On what grounds do you stand when you say that the "truth-movement leaders" are set up buy the PTB's, that my friend is fare reaching.
If it hadn't been for the likes of Maxwell Icke Tsarion Sitchin and MANY others we would still be living in the medieval dark-ages, thees are the kind of people that got burned at the stakes and the people that burned them were RELIGOUS FANATICS.

Oh it is far reaching indeed. It's time to take a dive farther down the rabbit hole my friend. I have many grounds to say this. It is the new age agenda which there is so much information about it is staggering. The PTB set up our leaders. They control all oppositions. The CIA set up entire the patriot movement, that is a fact and easily researchable with declassified CIA documents. tsarion, Sitchin, etc. aren't waking anyone up because they aren't telling anyone the truth. They tell you SOME truth(well not sitchin much, but others such as icke and tsarion do), but then spin it into lies so that you chase your imagination in circles and never find the truth. You see the PTB know there will be people that will not want to accept this new world order and who will figure things out, so they set out leaders to prevent that from happening by given us people who we think are acting as a voice for us. They make you think you wake up, while you waste your time in fantasy land.

Also it makes it so that when ppl put out REAL truth, they are discredited by association, since the PTB set up leaders to put out some of the same truth but spun in into outterspace. And that's where 'being burned at the stake' comes in.

[GoingToFast]

Originally Posted by Doom

Oh it is far reaching indeed. It's time to take a dive farther down the rabbit hole my friend. I have many grounds to say this. It is the new age agenda which there is so much information about it is staggering. The PTB set up our leaders. They control all oppositions. The CIA set up entire the patriot movement, that is a fact and easily researchable with declassified CIA documents. tsarion, Sitchin, etc. aren't waking anyone up because they aren't telling anyone the truth. They tell you SOME truth(well not sitchin much, but others such as icke and tsarion do), but then spin it into lies so that you chase your imagination in circles and never find the truth. You see the PTB know there will be people that will not want to accept this new world order and who will figure things out, so they set out leaders to prevent that from happening by given us people who we think are acting as a voice for us.

So what you are saying is that Maxwell Icke Tsarion Sitchin and MANY others are all knowingly misleading the rest of us and that they are doing this under direct orders from the PTB's, is that what you are saying.

It is absolutely clear to me that you are one of the religious people that is scared to death of the possibility that there religious beliefs are built on a pack of lies and therefor your entire reality is coming apart.

[Tag]

Listen Doom first in NOWAY is sitchin inplying or pushing a reptilian agenda READ his books cause i have. I no way shape or form is sitchin talking about reptilians. He mentionned the annunaki.

Ickes is not pushing for the reptilian agenda just a believer because of the witness who came foreward to him. He admits that he has no such proof regarding the reptilians.

As for you finding chris white more genuine then maxwell well i dont and reading helps.

Im seeing people debunking steven greer this guy has 400 military witness and people believe the debunkers they just dont wanna face the facts.

As for the global picture who u belive or not doesnt make such importance as long as you see that the situation humanity is in is because of us the earths people and it is us who must change NOW before its to late.

[Doom]

Originally Posted by Tag

Listen Doom first in NOWAY is sitchin inplying or pushing a reptilian agenda READ his books cause i have. I no way shape or form is sitchin talking about reptilians. He mentionned the annunaki.

Ickes is not pushing for the reptilian agenda just a believer because of the witness who came foreward to him. He admits that he has no such proof regarding the reptilians.

As for you finding chris white more genuine then maxwell well i dont and reading helps.

Im seeing people debunking steven greer this guy has 400 military witness and people believe the debunkers they just dont wanna face the facts.

As for the global picture who u belive or not doesnt make such importance as long as you see that the situation humanity is in is because of us the earths people and it is us who must change NOW before its to late.

Steven Greer is debunked. I've checked it all out, for many years in fact. And Steven's info is not facts, like you say it is. You really believe all these ex-military men who have taken secret oaths? His witnessess are liars, or perhaps even believe the lies they are telling because of compartmentization of the operations they worked in. it's a major pyschology warfare program, a huge counter-intellgience operation by the CIA. It's all the new age agenda my friend, which has been exposed, for those who wish to as you say 'face the facts'. Most people don't want to believe the truth cause the truth hurts. They'd rather believe in fantasy.

For one such thing - the witness that have seen 'UFO's', well BBC has documented in the 70's that they are built here by us, and have nothing to do with aliens, it's just hidden technology. Eventually everything like this can be explained and is not other wordly. It's just psyops to spin people's mind off into fantasy.

And of course Icke, maxwell and sitchin push the reptilian agenda, are you kidding me?? seriously? you do relize that many of these new agers say the annunaki ARE reptilian aliens?

[Tag]

When u say this about greer and his witnesses is like not believing a single word for what project camelot and avalon stand for.

Anyways im done with this topic.

[BeaTnik-BandiT]

Originally Posted by Doom

Not to defend Chris White, as I have stated before he is misguided, but Jordan Maxwell is not saint.

I haven't read these Chris White articles, but a first glance that tells me what kind of job he does.
I admit i am a respectful 'fan' of the work of Tsarion and Maxwell.
If i'm not mistaken, Maxwell is on social security and doesn't have a round.
For a 'supposedly' disinformant, his standard of living does't seems to be very high...

Originally Posted by Doom

Hell, Jordan Maxwell even said on Jeff Rense that him and his family shot and killed a baby t-rex in their backyard, absolutely ridiculous, Ha.

We could give him the benefice of the doubt and say he is making a bit things up to get attention...?

Originally Posted by Doom

He's in cahoots with sitchin, tsarion, icke, and others. they all are pushing the reptilian alien agenda in some way shape or form. Pure disinformation.

That's a bold and misguiding statement to say.
Personally, i feel it's dangerous to dismiss this possibilty without proper evaluation.

These are not the only researchers talking about this. They offer us a wider perspective of the situation IMHO, and their work to me sounds honest, backed and fully referenced.

Also, they bring solutions, and gives us hints on how to dodge our way out of this mess.

Originally Posted by Doom

This documentary is very poor, although Chris White seems more genuine than Maxwell and the like, he is misguided by his religious beliefs. So here you have a someone who is wrong, showing incorrectly how someone who is wrong, is wrong. (that last sentence sounds a little funny but it makes sense lol

I know what you mean.
But like eaglespirit said in the previous post, Religion is a Lie
and this Chris White guy is trying to mix things up: Religion as 'truth' against 'conspiracy research'....

So we could then say:

1- Chris White spills his Religious frustration on the first guy around; here, Jordan Maxwell...

OR

2- He is a Disinformant, trying to gain profit from weaknesses of the 'messenger'.

Originally Posted by Doom

but others such as icke and tsarion do), but then spin it into lies so that you chase your imagination in circles and never find the truth.

Well, my friend i am sorry to say you should go back and 'Do your homework' !

salute.

[Doom]

Originally Posted by BeaTnik-BandiT

I haven't read these Chris White articles, but a first glance that tells me what kind of job he does.
I admit i am a respectful 'fan' of the work of Tsarion and Maxwell.
If i'm not mistaken, Maxwell is on social security and doesn't have a round.
For a 'supposedly' disinformant, his standard of living does't seems to be very high...



We could give him the benefice of the doubt and say is makiing a bit things up to get attention...?



That's a bold and misguiding statement to say.
Personally, i feel it's dangerous to dismiss this possibilty without proper evaluation.

These are not the only researchers talking about this. They offer us a wider perspective of the situation IMHO, and their work to me sounds honest, backed and fully referenced.

Also, they bring solutions, and gives us hints on how to dodge our way out of this mess.




I know what you mean.
But like eaglespirit said in the previous post, Religion is a Lie
and this Chris White guy is trying to mix things up: Religion as 'truth' against 'conspiracy research'....

So we could then say:

1- Chris White spills his Religious frustration on the first guy around; here, Jordan Maxwell...

OR

2- He is a Disinformant, trying to gain profit from weaknesses of the 'messenger'.



Well, my friend i am sorry to say you should go back and 'Do your homework' !

salute.

it's not just 1. or 2., there's always more than just black and white.

Chris white is wrong, but so is maxwell.
As for maxwell's standard of living, he didn't exactly live a hard life, he travelled the world, seen alot, hung with a lot of big boys, but screwed himself over by scamming ppl(he commited fraud), his is a legit criminal. And also, these 'disinformants' are really left in the dust. They are often not taking care of. often they think they are correct but have been lead to believe and spread the disinformation that they themselves think is truth. even high beaurocrats, they are just being used and usually don't even know it themselves.

i've done my homework, i'm afriad it's you haven't done yours. You have to get all sides fo the story, not just the black and white. i've ressearched Maxwell's info extensively for years, along with sitchin, icke, tsarion, and the like. It's all apart of the new age agenda. Please research that. The New Age Agenda. Also look into counter-intelligence. Look at the definition of it, and look what Icke, tsarion, etc. are doing. They give some truth, gain followers, then spin it into outterspace and lies. That's how counter-intelligence works. (for starters u coudl try the Alan Watt talks i posted in the 2nd post)

Maxwell, tsarion, etc. aren't offering hints or solutions, they give you a little truth and then spin it so you focus your attention and solutions on something that has nothing to do with stopping the new world order (even though u think it will). They love confused new world order combants that are busy chasing aliens and jews etc, and all of this made up conspiracy junk.

Also Maxwell has publicly stated his affection for masonry and that alone is one of the biggest red flags on his name. He is an actual disinfo agent imo. that why i say Chris White seems more genuine. Chris just seems completely off target because of his religious beliefs not allowing him from seeing the real picture. that doesn't make his info any better though.

And really how can you so easily write off what Maxwell said as "making up things to get attention" and not think that matters?

[BeaTnik-BandiT]

Originally Posted by Doom

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Maxwell, tsarion, etc. aren't offering hints or solutions, they give you a little truth and then spin it so you focus your attention and solutions on something .

What do you mean by this: 'little truth' ???

What's your definition of this.....and bring me an example in Tsarion's work that corroborate what you say.

I'll see then.

salute.

[Doom]

Originally Posted by BeaTnik-BandiT

What do you mean by this: 'little truth' ???

What's your definition of this.....and bring me an example in Tsarion's work that corroborate what you say.

I'll see then.

salute.

simply things like when icke will talk about how there is the ruling elite, which is true, but then they spin it and say they are controlled by reptilian aliens and what not. Tsarion isn't as pronounced about reptilians, but the still pushes it, and helped Icke with a lot of his books. But they'll use sitchin's falsified info as evidence, and all sorts of misinterpretations to push this kinda stuff. Mainstream media even helps it along with series such as V. Predictive programming to defeat your mind. When you accept aliens as gods or rulers you become defeated, you'll never find an alien to blame or to complain to, and most will accept that as gods they are supeirior, and we are inferior, and therefor nothing can be done - or anythnig they think can be done, is useless cause they have their focus on something imaginary and any solution they put forth will not help anything. Please search previous posts by myself on this board, as I have many posts about more of this same information, and links to where to get more, etc.

[GoingToFast]

Thees are the fact's.

1. Mankind are a hybrid-creation of our ET-god's. Deal with it.

2. All religions created ANNO DOMINI are falsifications, they are created to enslave and control humanity.

3. Religion are the PTB's BEST WEAPON when it comes to controlling us, why would they destroy that.

4. When you are saying that the Maxwells Ickes Tsarions and many others are agents of the PTB's, you yourself are an Agent of the PTB's.

[Doom]

Originally Posted by GoingToFast

Thees are the fact's.

1. Mankind are a hybrid-creation of our ET-god's. Deal with it.

2. All religions created ANNO DOMINI are falsifications, they are created to enslave and control humanity.

3. Religion are the PTB's BEST WEAPON when it comes to controlling us, why would they destroy that.

4. When you are saying that the Maxwells Ickes Tsarions and many others are agents of the PTB's, you yourself are an Agent of the PTB's.

I'll agree with you about religions for the most part, but that's it. ACtually not really, you only got 1/4. Because they are planning to destroy the old religions to bring in a new one. A better one to better control the public. Yes the old religions were tools to control us, but still they must be destroyed by the PTB to bring in their new religion. Which has basically already happened, it's called the new age.

I know it's hard for you to accept that there are no ETs involved here, many people believe this new age stuff like a religion. It's so fantastic they want to believe it. Behaviorists know this, humans are so attracted to fantastic. As Albert Pike said, "Oh, foolish man, what can you not be made to believe?"
Believing we are created by ET gods is EXACTLY what the new world order want us to believe. We are already defeated if thats what we think. Look into the new age agenda, this is EXACTLY what they want. There is an unseen element of pyschological defeat, when you accept aliens as our gods.

And no, using factual information to show how the PTB uses counter-intellgence does not make me "an agent of the PTB". that quote is practically Fear of knoweldge. And you can't say that I just haven't done my resaerch - Some may not believe in the alien agenda stuff etc. because they haven't looked into or w/e, but I have, extensively, so you can't say i haven't done my research. I have and more, and have come to what i see as now being obvious conclusions, that it is pure counter-intelligence.

Now I ask you, have you checked out all sides of the story, have you extensively researched the new age and counter intelligence?

[GoingToFast]

Originally Posted by Doom

I'll agree with you about religions for the most part, but that's it. ACtually not really, because they are planning to destroy the old religions to bring in a new one. A better one to better control the public. Yes the old religions were tools to control us, but still they must be destroyed by the PTB to bring in their new religion. Which has basically already happened, it's called the new age.

I know it's hard for you to accept that there are no ETs involved here, many people believe this new age stuff like a religion. It's so fantastic they want to believe it. Behaviorists know this, humans are so attracted to fantastic. As Albert Pike said, "Oh, foolish man, what can you not be made to believe?"
Believing we are created by ET gods is EXACTLY what the new world order want us to believe. We are already defeated if thats what we think. Look into the new age agenda, this is EXACTLY what they want.

And no, using factual information to show how the PTB uses counter-intellgence does not make me "an agent of the PTB". that quote is practically Fear of knoweldge. And you can't say that I just haven't done my resaerch - Some may not believe in the alien agenda stuff etc. because they haven't looked into or w/e, but I have, extensively, so you can't say i haven't done my research. I have and more, and have come to what i see as now being obvious conclusions, that it is pure counter-intelligence.

Now I ask you, have you checked out all sides of the story, have you extensively researched the new age and counter intelligence?

This will most probably get me another point from the moderators, but I just gotto tellya.

DOOM, YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER D**B*SS.

[Doom]

Originally Posted by GoingToFast

This will most probably get me another point from the moderators, but I just gotto tellya.

DOOM, YOU ARE JUST ANOTHER D**B*SS.

comments like that are only helping my aguement here you know. has it really already broken down to childish ridicule?

[GoingToFast]

Originally Posted by Doom

comments like that are only helping my aguement here you know. has it really already broken down to childish ridicule?

What ever you religious-dogmatist, you just don't get it do you.
THE HISTORY AS WE KNOW IT IS A FALSIFICATION, get it through your thick scull, and it is this FALS HISTORY that YOU are KLINGING ON TO.

[Doom]

Originally Posted by GoingToFast

What ever you religious-dogmatist, you just don't get it do you.
THE HISTORY AS WE KNOW IT IS A FALSIFICATION, get it through your thick scull, and it is this FALS HISTORY that YOU are KLINGING ON TO.

what are you even talking about? I'm not religious at all in any way shape or form. And I know we have been lied to and misinformed about history. . Have you thouroughly read any of my posts? You should try to understand what I'm saying before you make comments like this that don't even make sense.

[Watchmen111]

Interesting video but I still like Jordon Maxwell work any way his work only part of truth his work makes cents .

[Antaletriangle]

I agree watchmen even if some of his info. is slightly misaligned (concerning his english-aramaic/bic and sumerian word combinations) i feel he's opened people's eyes to agendas that wouldn't have normally have been exposed,although Icke and others would have provided this info. it's still a step in an awakening direction for some.

[Watchmen111]

its only part of the great complex Pluzz we all now what true deep down inside use .............

[Sir-Chi]

jajajajaja .... debunking Maxwell now .... silly Muggles. After all these years...... hahahaha

I actaully met Jordan some 10 yrs ago now .... wow what an amazing person.

MY GRANDMOM ALWAYS TOLD ME ..... UNTIL YOU WALK IN SOMEONES SHOEs YOU CAN NEVER JUDGE THEM.

Jordan for sure is the Symbolism GodFather .....

I know i know .... TRUTH HURTS!!

Well folks .... what are all the bickering minded people going to do as the AKASHIC RECORDS become obtainable to all very SHORTLY....

BYE BYE SEPERTISM!!!

[Carol]

Doom, I suggest you google Credo Mutwa. His interviews are also availabe via transcripts. Now as I've personal contact with a number of contactees whose stories are indeed amazing and true.. what is true is based on their personal experiences. I've also been in this field of research since the early 1970s.. that means there is a good 35 years plus - studying this topic, talking to the people involved, reading/ediiting unpublished manuscripts and testimonies from high ranking government officials and the direct interviews of many of the people you are dissing here.. so in essence grasshopper, there is a steep learning curve still to climb on your part.

Tearing someone apart to fit your limited viewpoint and opinion does not serve the greater good here.

[Doom]

Originally Posted by Carol

Doom, I suggest you google Credo Mutwa.

Already seen his interview with icke and have read all about him, his story is a complete croc(no-pun intended).

And i'm not tearing anyone apart to fit any viewpoint. I'm just explaining and providing information on what counter-intelligence is and what the new age is and how to spot it, I'll recommend you research those. Exposing lies that spin the truth into non-sense in order to discredit it is absolutely for the greater good. We'll never stop the new world order chasing aliens, i promsie you that.

[trainedobserver]

Some of the most damning evidence from the movie occurs about 27 or 28 minutes in where the origins of his assumed name are discussed. After viewing it is difficult to believe that Mr. Maxwell hasn't been disingenuous when discussing where it came from.

I'm afraid that Jordan Maxwell is just another member of the modern mythology sub-culture that are in the business of producing 'faux-reality' shows and books.

[GoingToFast]

Whenever there comes along a person who claims that we are created by other living beings they always get severely attacked by the religious right-wing of ALL DOMINATIONS, that in it's self tells you something doesn't it.
Remember Erich Von Däniken, any one?