Obama Forgery Exposed

[StClair]

It is correct that DNC and many others know there s an issue the size of a mack truck coming at them. Ask yourself how they won the primaries, how Clinton was side-lined etc. and then let us step back in time a bit.


hueyii

Well you are joking right? You really do not know who he is? Do you read any other sources other than Avalon and massmedia? I really thought we were beyond all this and everyone at Avalon had somehow done their homework. Ask yourself this: Do you find it normal that all his school and university records are sealed? Does that give you a hint where to start?


Dear "msv"

why do you get so worked up when someone shares a piece of inconvenient information? Are we not here to find things out among other things?

If everything is a hoax and a psyop like you suggest I am glad you prove it to us who have reasons to feel differently. Have you seen the original birth certificate?

I explained to you already in another thread that many intelligence agencies around the world know that there is an issue with the composite person that was presented to the voters.

And sooner or later this issue will bubble back up to the surface. I am not telling you what I know, I am only helping to guide the search.

You have to take it easy and stay in an enquiring mind. Even the Clintons have gone very quiet on this issue, whereas usually they are quite vocal when it comes to this sort of thing. Does that tell you something?

Can I ask you who you are msv?

The fact is the paper is not a birth certificate, it is at best a COLB, and those who purport to have the real thing are sitting on it, and one has the right when in a sane mindset to wonder why.

This is something that is being looked at by many, and even in very high places. So this is not some light-hearted joking matter you can just brush off as a "psy-op," it will be more complex than you think.

As we showed you, the constitutionalists point out that the Electoral College has a duty to look into this. If it does not, it will later move into the awareness of the Supreme Court that already has heard noises about this.

If it was as simple as you make it out to be, then it would not be an issue, no? Then an original birth certifcate would have been produced and the matter would have been closed long ago.

I have to tell you this is not a psy-op. I cant tell you who my sources are but this issue is being looked into both from inside and from outside the USA.

You will admit that Indonesia is involved as is Kenya, and that perhaps even the birth certificate itself might prove irrelevant.


Peace

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[hueyii]

Originally Posted by StClair

hueyii

Well you are joking right? You really do not know who he is? Do you read any other sources other than Avalon and massmedia? I really thought we were beyond all this and everyone at Avalon had somehow done their homework. Ask yourself this: Do you find it normal that all his school and university records are sealed? Does that give you a hint where to start?

Homework posted. The more I read, the more I see how overblown the charge is. Sorry I cant truthfully say I agree with your point of view.

The people who are pushing this have an agenda and have made other false charges. I bet they sell books. I'll meditate on it and ask for guidance. My heart tells me there is no truth in these charges tho.

May you all experience the oneness that we are. Goodnight.

[Dean Plejaren]

im sick of hearing about obama

[THE eXchanger]

his birth certifate for the year he was born in

should state NEGRO (SORRY; i spelled it wrong)
or BLACK

african - is NOT an option - for that section,
at least, NOT in the year he was born in

besides, elections are fixed

[Squeptikal]

Originally Posted by eXchanger

his birth certifate for the year he was born in

should state NEGRO (SORRY; i spelled it wrong)
or BLACK

african - is NOT an option - for that section,
at least, NOT in the year he was born in

besides, elections are fixed

Nice try Exchanger, however you are trying to work the equation forward! This is all inverted and backwards.

By allowing Obama to get elected, the masses that voted aren't going to allow the Constitution to stand in the way of their man, and those in power know it. Yes, there may be a mainstream disclosure but do you believe that it will benefit mankind?

Some lies are meant to stay hidden and in this case, it may be better to let sleeping dogs lie.

You have my empathy.

[hueyii]

Originally Posted by Dean Plejaren

im sick of hearing about obama

Agreed. Can we just get on with it?

[Waterman]

Whew,

St. Clair, we are in trouble. I had no clue that there was this much denial.

It will decided by the Supreme court, and it will be what it will be. And what it will be is many freedoms lost.

We are moving through Obama's handlers into an unprecedented time of political corruption. About the time we thought the Clinton's were corrupt, we get the Bush corruption. Then as soon as we think it can't get any worse than the Bush clan we get Obama and the old NWO guard gets placed back in power!

America, under the next puppet controlled president is headed for total dictatorship. And when some of the cool aid drinkers of America start bleeding I would not be surprised that there will still be denial. We have no time to waste, and so unfortunately no time help them from getting hungry bellies, the denial is desired and there taken upon themselves and will manifest. This is a perfect example of the real manifestation that occurs by participating in a belief system.

It isn't the talking and debating of such realities that causes the manifestation it is owning, and participating that causes the manifestation. And right here on this thread there is a perfect example. So, as Kerry has said entertaining the thought does not mean I participated in manifesting it.

Let us not ignore the common sense that produces benefit through dialog as opposed to the superstition that just talking about undesirable events will manifest things. So, let us focus on our ground crew work, and continue to put together our regional and sub cultural economies. Let's continue to realize we will be needing each other to make it through. And if people are in denial to do any of these things say a prayer for them and move on to the next person.

[Squeptikal]

Originally Posted by Waterman

Whew,

We are moving through Obama's handlers into an unprecedented time of political corruption. About the time we thought the Clinton's were corrupt, we get the Bush corruption. Then as soon as we think it can't get any worse than the Bush clan we get Obama and the old NWO guard gets placed back in power!

Let's continue to realize we will be needing each other to make it through. And if people are in denial to do any of these things say a prayer for them and move on to the next person.

Why is it that everyone assumes that we're living in times of enhanced corruption? Just look at the Kennedy thing, when I was a kid. Kennedy wants to wrest control from the CIA, while banging one of their biggest blackies' wife. He gets whacked because of it, and then she gets whacked by the younger brother Bobby. Then to restore the original balance, Bobby gets whacked. Talk about corruption! JFK was a major flaunter of power getting off on LSD, and numerous other goodies.

We only believe that this is a new standard of corruption because of our limited experiences.

I heartily agree with the end of your post...

Let's get on the with Ground Crew work and quit flirting with whitey disenfranchisement. Shift happened! Impotent remorse is not a worthy endeavor.

[Bobcat]

I found it quite amusing that when he was elected the bbc had film crews in kenya. They had alot of his family members on film cheering for him. What I found amusing was, they where in a crappy tin shed and looked very poor indeed. If he can leave his own family poor and in poverty, why is he goingto help the families of the USA one little bit?

It's clear he couldnt give a damn.

The devils pupput.

Regards

Bobcat

p.s. He still hasnt produced his origional birth document. If he had nothing to worry about he would have just shown it in public and told everyone to calm down !!!

[eaglespirit]

It is ALL imploding...no matter who is in office!

The downward spiral is already in full momentum.

Politics, the crock of lies as we know it, IS leaving the planet!

It is now up to You and Me and Our Own Higher Help!

What do You want Your Life to be?

Make it so and be it!

[Josefine]

HELLO!!!

Let us tread gingerly on eggs and refrain from throwing stones when sitting in a house of glass.

There were two candidates in the race, both backed by the current overt and hidden establishment. This has been the case before, how could it be different this time?

St. Clair obviously favoured the McCain/Palin ticket. Even to the extent of squeezing an interpretation of Palin's astrological chart and pronouncing her ticket to be on the winning side. Then offering an apologetica that did not even address the salient point, namely that of him stretching his credentials as a professional astrologer a wee bit too far. And to what purpose? A McCain/Palin win would have been an equally challenging situation for those who want a real change of direction, given the McCain/Palin connection to Zionists, Jesuits, the open backing by a Rothschild, Christian Dominionism and Fundamentalism etc etc

How unbiased was this, St Clair?

If this were a local squabble, we might have just wished good luck. Since much more is at stake, let us hope that this administration develops in a more positive direction than our worst fear tries to dictate.

The world is ready for a change, but the change will have to start inside each and every one of us.

[dagon]

a friend gave me this responce.

this stuff is interesting but try not to get to wound up over it. Much of it is bad science with a clear political agenda. The Republicans and the far right do not like the current political situation at all and there crying has only just begun. Keep the faith,

Im not sure on this subject. lets say its true. then what do you all expect would happen? hillery is president? hum? gorge stays in office a while linger?

interesting.

[dagon]

personally. I think we should line up most all of the politicians on the steps of the capital. and then hold new elections. anything less will just produce more of the same.

[Tara]

What would a "white hat" do if he were president? Give me an example of any political figure globally who MAY NOT be corrupt? How about Evo Morales of Bolivia. He is working on socialism, but he's a really good guy as far as I know. What is it that you are all so afraid of with Barack Obama that hasn't been done before. From kool-aid drinker to the ever SO smart all knowing ones on this thread. I still find it interesting that this info is same info blasted by right wing media. Again, these are the same people who gave us Bush/Cheney. I keep hearing how we're all doomed, and how stupid we are that we don't see it coming. What the h*ll are you talking about? What's going to happen? I've read all the conspiracies, what is the worse thing that will happen, debtor prisons, death? The amero, staged terrorists attacks, homeless, poor, hungry, broke. Most of this stuff is already happening. Why are there two threads by same poster on this issue with a video by a guy who won't even say who he is? Everytime I end a post like this I just want to erase it. Feels like such a waste of time.

[StClair]

Tara
Yes I agree.

Indeed, yes there is Evo Morales to whom I dedicated a page in my book, Aquarius One and capricorn one, the tribal leader, installed elected simultaneously to the little bottle neck whale appearing in London.... and there is also Vladimir Putin and his student Medvedev, and a few more, such as Mr. Klaus, Czech President, and a few more, hidden in waiting for later. Believe it or not, and Palin is one of "us" too hidden in her "disguise." It would be best she just looks after her immediate surroundings, as we all do in our radiant zones, see Morales, Klaus, Putin, et al.

[joe2288]

I honestly am a obama supporter and regardless of what anyone says i think

he is going to make a good president but i did see something recently on a

underground video were a person staed the same thing as this man so i agree

that this should be looked into further

[Lotus]

In late July, a researcher looking to dig up dirt on Obama instead found a birth announcement that had been published in the Honolulu Advertiser on Sunday, Aug. 13, 1961.

The announcement was posted by a pro-Hillary Clinton blogger who grudgingly concluded that Obama "likely" was born Aug. 4, 1961 in Honolulu.

[John aka#404]

Originally Posted by bodhisattva

No, I am referring to the people who post comments like, "who cares", or "move on"....I am totally open to open minded, informed and intelligent dialog. Heretic, is a great example of that. My comments were directed at people who don't seem to care about this issue, and I question why they would bother with their comments in the first place. When I see posts I don't care about, I don't take the time to make a "who cares" comment, I do move on.

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Bodhisattva,

I just wanted to say thank you for standing up for what you question in life. I too have been questioning this whole "BO" thing since the beginning of this year. I have made varying posts elsewhere on this forum about this issue, but will not deter here.

I understand that many folks out there will hold on to the first glimpse of hope without questioning intentions, agenda, etc. And guess what... it looks like "tptwb" (the powers that wanna be - lower case intentional) have created the perfect "problem-reaction-solution" here (ie. Bush/Neocons/et al -> get the masses in a tizzy of despair -> accept the first glimpse of hope).
[the opposite can be true too... BO and team are really white knights of truth (ie. keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer) -- if so, would they play the same games as those they oppose? and if they are... does that feel right ? Not for me. We all are much better than that.]

Unfortunately, in today's world this whole matter being questioned has of course included the race card and really... we all are much better than that. Why can we not question all of these blatant cover-ups ? The FACT that reactions occur so quickly should be the red flag. Something is up here.

I also want to say, ignore those that want to badger on about moving on or "who cares". It is not about disrespect - it is like Bodhisattva has said... let's be "... totally open to open minded, informed and intelligent dialog." This is how we should all be engaged here (and the forum as a whole). Some folks, however, feel it is their duty to throw stones here and there. Let them... and ignore them.

Thank you Heretic and Michael for your input on this issue as well.

peace, love and HUGS all around.

-John
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[bodhisattva]

Originally Posted by John aka#404

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Bodhisattva,

I just wanted to say thank you for standing up for what you question in life. I too have been questioning this whole "BO" thing since the beginning of this year. I have made varying posts elsewhere on this forum about this issue, but will not deter here.

I understand that many folks out there will hold on to the first glimpse of hope without questioning intentions, agenda, etc. And guess what... it looks like "tptwb" (the powers that wanna be - lower case intentional) have created the perfect "problem-reaction-solution" here (ie. Bush/Neocons/et al -> get the masses in a tizzy of despair -> accept the first glimpse of hope).
[the opposite can be true too... BO and team are really white knights of truth (ie. keep your friends close, but keep your enemies closer) -- if so, would they play the same games as those they oppose? and if they are... does that feel right ? Not for me. We all are much better than that.]

Unfortunately, in today's world this whole matter being questioned has of course included the race card and really... we all are much better than that. Why can we not question all of these blatant cover-ups ? The FACT that reactions occur so quickly should be the red flag. Something is up here.

I also want to say, ignore those that want to badger on about moving on or "who cares". It is not about disrespect - it is like Bodhisattva has said... let's be "... totally open to open minded, informed and intelligent dialog." This is how we should all be engaged here (and the forum as a whole). Some folks, however, feel it is their duty to throw stones here and there. Let them... and ignore them.

Thank you Heretic and Michael for your input on this issue as well.

peace, love and HUGS all around.

-John
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Thank you beautiful John.

You, and a few others here, I truly resonate with.

I am not here to bash Obama. I am merely seeking the truth where ever that leads me. I am sick of the lies, corruption and deceit that is so common these days. I want us all as God's children to live a happy, prosperous and healthy life as God intended for us.

I as a spiritual warrior will fight for that birth right, and I will do my part in educating myself with the evidence that points me in the direction of the truth.

And for those folks who don't give a rats ass about it, it is their right to exercise their free will in that way; it is just not my style to not care about something this important.

peace and a big hug.

[davefla73]

i beleave it i think its a cheap fake, he should produce the real one!

[Lotus]

Ask yourself a simple question, do you think Obama's worried that some people on a forum think his birth certificate is fake?

This issue was trumpeted on right wing blogosphere and he still got elected.

Berg's lawsuit was thrown out.

What's all this complaining supposed to achieve?

Look how long we've been inundated with reams of info about the 9/11 conspiracy, and what's happened officially? Nothing.

So dream on.

[bodhisattva]

Originally Posted by Lotus

Ask yourself a simple question, do you think Obama's worried that some people on a forum think his birth certificate is fake?

This issue was trumpeted on right wing blogosphere and he still got elected.

Berg's lawsuit was thrown out.

What's all this complaining supposed to achieve?

Look how long we've been inundated with reams of info about the 9/11 conspiracy, and what's happened officially? Nothing.

So dream on.

Nope, I don't think Obama gives a rats ass about our opinions on this forum....but I suspect he is a tad bit concerned about what the Supreme Court might rule.

[Lotus]

Don't have to be psychic to predict they will throw it out!

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