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Old 11-09-2008, 11:27 PM   #1
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No 777, it is intended as a reply (reaction?) to the original post.
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Old 11-09-2008, 11:31 PM   #2
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No 777, it is intended as a reply (reaction?) to the original post.
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Old 11-10-2008, 12:12 AM   #3
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Since I was born all I ever heard is that the world is going to end. People are evil, those that do not believe in Jesus as their lord and Saviour are going to hell, only to see with my own eyes the hyprocrisy of the messengers of the so called word of God. This is not a solution by any means, i'm sorry to say
that the belief in hell and the choosen ones mentality has brought more devisiveness and conflict, recent example the conflict in Ireland between protestants and Catholics. I feel that we must evolve beyond these divisions which leaves more than half the world out of the picture . If we get down to the fundamental belief initially only 144,000 will be saved. Now what's the possibility that any of us are going to be saved under this scenario.
The mathematical odds are not in our favor. If I recollect my history, all those that follow in the footsteps of Jesus where willing to go the way of the cross as the ultimate sacrifice ,you are only uttering what has been a christian tradition. In all of this in my opinion physically speaking there is no winners. My view is that we have to evolved beyond rights and wrongs. Mandela became a teacher to a nation of bigots who thought that blacks where a little more than animals, he evolved beyond this childish mentality to heal a nation. I do not see anybody calling him a anti christ because he unified south africa. My hope is that we can evolve beyond religious dogma
to embrace even our enemies, only then will be able to see beyond the darkness of the destruction of this planet. Contrarary to popular belief it will take a lot of hard work and sacrifice in ourselves to move in the direction of peace and mutual cooperation. Could this be achieved, I wonder !!!
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Old 11-10-2008, 12:40 AM   #4
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Since I was born all I ever heard is that the world is going to end. People are evil, those that do not believe in Jesus as their lord and Saviour are going to hell, only to see with my own eyes the hyprocrisy of the messengers of the so called word of God. This is not a solution by any means, i'm sorry to say
that the belief in hell and the choosen ones mentality has brought more devisiveness and conflict, recent example the conflict in Ireland between protestants and Catholics. I feel that we must evolve beyond these divisions which leaves more than half the world out of the picture . If we get down to the fundamental belief initially only 144,000 will be saved. Now what's the possibility that any of us are going to be saved under this scenario.
The mathematical odds are not in our favor. If I recollect my history, all those that follow in the footsteps of Jesus where willing to go the way of the cross as the ultimate sacrifice ,you are only uttering what has been a christian tradition. In all of this in my opinion physically speaking there is no winners. My view is that we have to evolved beyond rights and wrongs. Mandela became a teacher to a nation of bigots who thought that blacks where a little more than animals, he evolved beyond this childish mentality to heal a nation. I do not see anybody calling him a anti christ because he unified south africa. My hope is that we can evolve beyond religious dogma
to embrace even our enemies, only then will be able to see beyond the darkness of the destruction of this planet. Contrarary to popular belief it will take a lot of hard work and sacrifice in ourselves to move in the direction of peace and mutual cooperation. Could this be achieved, I wonder !!!
we, here, or in any other alternative forum like this, are a huge minority with no real power to stand a chance a make the world look different.

Accept it, itīs a fact, if it wasnīt, the world would have been different, eons ago.

Real Democracy and freedom is always executed. donīt fool yourself we are obliterated in any way to do anything by "tptb", because we are not.

the doom we have is the doom we deserve as the dumb species we are.
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Old 11-10-2008, 12:53 AM   #5
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i disagre, your perseption is also a level....i dont see how someone else cant see more than me...if i can see more or different than someone else....and i can for sure persept everything on different levels at the same time, and it will always be my choice how to respond....and on this level my respond to the world is gathering information, havent riped the fruit yet......and need to see more, but i very much agree with you on the oneness and love stuff.....but only from one of my levels at this time....hehe say no more
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Old 11-10-2008, 01:00 AM   #6
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people want the world as it is. We donīt. People want their world back, the world most of us disliked as being capitalistic. that happens now because their world is under threat. The powers are reorganizing the farm now. The powers gives the tools for us to play with, see: internet, for example.

People want that. 95% of human population want that.
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Old 11-10-2008, 06:04 AM   #7
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people want the world as it is. We donīt. People want their world back, the world most of us disliked as being capitalistic. that happens now because their world is under threat. The powers are reorganizing the farm now. The powers gives the tools for us to play with, see: internet, for example.

People want that. 95% of human population want that.
Do you ever feel like we should just find the pearl of great price and go home. We are not of this world.
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Old 11-10-2008, 06:13 AM   #8
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Do you ever feel like we should just find the pearl of great price and go home. We are not of this world.

prove you are not wrong if you can. Besides, i donīt need you to prove that. Besides, i donīt believe your crazy afirmation.

Besides, i donīt need to believe that, although i feel im not from this earth.....


how can i accept who i am in reality?, i have seen too much ******** to make myself known here on this planet; i am afraid of doing so and im not truly convinced, but, i dont know what to do, i have seen so much cow poo around about this.... . People qualify us as nuts too easily.


With that "us" i mean to define "those people who feel they are not original from this planet", yeah, extraterrestrials incarnated here.....


wtf, i donīt even believe in reincarnation, nor i deny that, but i have to confront a lot of feelings that donīt have the sense i would like them to have. I donīt see that good to be felt because people have put tons of **** over that thing.....

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Old 11-10-2008, 06:38 AM   #9
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prove you are not wrong if you can. Besides, i donīt need you to prove that. Besides, i donīt believe your crazy afirmation.

Besides, i donīt need to believe that, although i feel im not from this earth.....


how can i accept who i am in reality?, i have seen too much ******** to make myself known here on this planet; i am afraid. People qualify us as nuts too easily.

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