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Old 11-09-2008, 09:03 PM   #1
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Take it or leave it ! - Positive or Negative - They are ALL part of the same thing
Please don't spoon feed us that again we have herd it endlessly so what....

One day our patience will run out and we will want to do something.

Peer anyone who can know the truth understands Dragonbreaths posts are in the relevant correct direction.
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Old 11-09-2008, 09:13 PM   #2
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I would hate to see this forum close although i don't agree with some posts i read then and if i choose not to add to any negativity i feel it may give i simply ignore them.
any negative comment would soon die a death and perhaps that person will see that the information they have given was not of a good response.

Each and everyone of us has the choice and belief to say what they feel this is why this forum is interesting.
I can not say about the moderators i have not had a problem with them.

Be it positive post or negative let everyone have there say this is the choice we have.
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Old 11-09-2008, 09:14 PM   #3
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Please don't spoon feed us that again we have herd it endlessly so what....

One day our patience will run out and we will want to do something.

Peer anyone who can know the truth understands Dragonbreaths posts are in the relevant correct direction.
Not correct, chosen. Neither direction is neither right or wrong. I choose to stay because I can learn from both the positive and negative voices. The more you deal with people, the greater understanding you gain of human behavior, as ugly as it may be. I can tell you, I am learning a great deal of human behavior on this forum, more than I am learning in the classroom (As that's the number one thing school actually teaches me), as I am experiencing a different side to it, one that is more with open minded intelligent individuals which focuses more on the abstract and intangible side of humanity, almost void of our physical appearance and actions. I choose to stay. You choose to go. However, I see you're still here Namaste, my friend.
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Old 11-09-2008, 09:44 PM   #4
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I choose to stay. You choose to go. However, I see you're still here Namaste, my friend.
Not correct for you because you are blind about what it takes to co-operate with people and work together to create something against the establishment.

Yeah I will go thank you for the Namaste. One in sound mind is going against the current to exist on the forum. That's why people want to leave.
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Old 11-09-2008, 10:18 PM   #5
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Not correct for you because you are blind about what it takes to co-operate with people and work together to create something against the establishment.

Yeah I will go thank you for the Namaste. One in sound mind is going against the current to exist on the forum. That's why people want to leave.
I tend to get angry, as many have seen on this forum, when people disrespect me on the basis that I am ignorant, or as you say 'blind'. However, I have learned my lesson and will hold back such negative emotions.

I have some advice for you. There is no working against the establishment in respect to revolution. They are organized and focused, we are not. It is ironic because it should be the other way around, as they are service to self, and us to others. For a great deal of time I have been alone in my quest, having my friends and family consistently try to deter me from my beliefs, and bring me back into their so called reality. I became a fear mongerer and tried to lecture them over and over again. It got me no where.

I tried to make a difference in the world, tried to wake up people to what was really happening so we could 'bring down the establishment'. I have realized this is not how things are going to come to fruition. Instead, I am going to focus on the spiritual side of myself, while being supportive of my community, my family, my friends, my home My home is Maine, and it always will be. These people are my family. Not the white house, not the United States, or Wall Street. It is here. I am not going to bring anyone down. I am going bring people up. That is my purpose, as it should be for most of us.
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Old 11-09-2008, 10:19 PM   #6
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Also, the negativity on this forum is being quite the catalyst for this beautiful and enlightening conversation. Remember that. It's all connected and has a purpose.
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Old 11-09-2008, 10:37 PM   #7
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I tend to get angry, as many have seen on this forum, when people disrespect me on the basis that I am ignorant, or as you say 'blind'. However, I have learned my lesson and will hold back such negative emotions.

I have some advice for you. There is no working against the establishment in respect to revolution. They are organized and focused, we are not. It is ironic because it should be the other way around, as they are service to self, and us to others. For a great deal of time I have been alone in my quest, having my friends and family consistently try to deter me from my beliefs, and bring me back into their so called reality. I became a fear mongerer and tried to lecture them over and over again. It got me no where.

I tried to make a difference in the world, tried to wake up people to what was really happening so we could 'bring down the establishment'. I have realized this is not how things are going to come to fruition. Instead, I am going to focus on the spiritual side of myself, while being supportive of my community, my family, my friends, my home My home is Maine, and it always will be. These people are my family. Not the white house, not the United States, or Wall Street. It is here. I am not going to bring anyone down. I am going bring people up. That is my purpose, as it should be for most of us.

Why are we not focused greg? Why are they organized and we are not? Did you ever think about it? Or did you just stop trying because you couldn't do it all by yourself? I said you are not getting it because escaping into your own spiritual 'growth' rather than working to heal the planet is actually escaping from the need to face a feeling of being powerless. Do you really think you are going to get more powerful by avoiding and decieving yourself about it? No end of story.
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Old 11-09-2008, 11:36 PM   #8
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Why are we not focused greg? Why are they organized and we are not? Did you ever think about it? Or did you just stop trying because you couldn't do it all by yourself? I said you are not getting it because escaping into your own spiritual 'growth' rather than working to heal the planet is actually escaping from the need to face a feeling of being powerless. Do you really think you are going to get more powerful by avoiding and decieving yourself about it? No end of story.
You drastically underestimate me my friend. I have an interview with a TV producer tomorrow to be on a local program that would focus a half hour show on just me! They will interview me about what I do which is a pretty broad topic, but focuses on philosophy, metaphysics, cosmology, mathematics, and physics. The assistant producer is pretty confident that they're gonna have me on the show, as she was rather impressed with me on the phone and is on board with most of my concepts.

Two, I am awaiting for administration approval to host a lecture at my campus on my work with a focus on the universal truths of reality called "The Logic of Beauty". I am already backed by some of the facility on campus, include a professor who has a PhD in archeology and is internationally recognized for his work, and well known in the field, as some of my discussion will revolve around Atlantis and the ancients. The auditorium this is in can host a thousand people and many people in my community are intrigued about this event. I am expecting at least 200 people, hopefully much more. I'm not some kid who types on Avalon all day, reads, and meditates. There's much more to me than meets the eye. You think I can write, you should hear me speak!

My story is just starting to take off, how about yours?
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Old 11-09-2008, 11:43 PM   #9
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Thank you for that, Circlewerk
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Old 11-09-2008, 11:01 PM   #10
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Not correct for you because you are blind about what it takes to co-operate with people and work together to create something against the establishment.

Yeah I will go thank you for the Namaste. One in sound mind is going against the current to exist on the forum. That's why people want to leave.

" I'm leaving I'm leaving I'm leaving watch me go now look at me while I'm leaving, HEY PAY ATTENTION I'M GOING NOW GOD DAMN IT "


Shut-up already and just go.
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Old 11-09-2008, 11:12 PM   #11
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" I'm leaving I'm leaving I'm leaving watch me go now look at me while I'm leaving, HEY PAY ATTENTION I'M GOING NOW GOD DAMN IT "


Shut-up already and just go.
I did mention I'm not staying forever I didn't say the exact date and time I would go.

I let it eat away at you first.....
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Old 11-09-2008, 11:15 PM   #12
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i did mention i'm not staying forever i didn't say the exact date and time i would go.

I let it eat away at you first.....

o'brother give me a break.
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Old 11-09-2008, 09:55 PM   #13
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Avalon is an expression of great wonder and insightfulness. A family who will be challenged and tested for many times ahead. Her members here have different levels of understanding and knowledge. The bigger picture can't always be seen to some, even inconspicuous to a Mod where occult symbolism conveys a brutal message in an election dress. Avalon has her reconciliation of differences. What matters is the journey her fellow participants experience and grow to equip towards their life's fulfillment. I will be staying to the bitter end until a subscription fee is introduced.

Just a gentle reminder to all shared through a insightful parent and comic:

"The world is like a ride at an amusement park, and when you choose to go on it, you think it's real, because that's how powerful our minds are. And the ride goes up and down and round and round and it has thrills and chills and it's very brightly colored and it's very loud. And it's fun, for a while.

Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question: 'Is this real? Or is this just a ride?' And other people have remembered, and they come back to us and they say 'Hey! Don't worry, don't be afraid - ever - because... this is just a ride.' And we kill those people.

'Shut him up! We have a lot invested in this ride! Shut him up! Look at my furrows of worry; look at my big bank account, and my family. This has to be real.'

It's just a ride. But we always kill those good guys who try and tell us that - ever notice that? - and we let the demons run amok. But it doesn't matter, because... it's just a ride, and we can change it any time we want. It's only a choice. No effort. No worry. No job. No savings and money. Just a choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your door, buy bigger guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love, instead, see all of us as one.

Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, into a better ride. Take all that money we spend on weapons and defense each year and, instead, spend it feeding, clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would do many times over - not one human being excluded - and we can explore space together, both inner and outer, forever. In peace
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