Barry King British Whistleblower testimony

[Steve_A]

Hi THEWATCHER,

I apologise, forgive me. You said something that intrigued me though.

Who were the other 4 UK officers?
Will they coroborate with your story?

You mentioned UK officers, which suggests there could have been officers from other countries.

Who were they?
Will they coroborate with your story?

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by THEWATCHER

Yes that was a term we 4 UK officers used, have a problem with that Steve? I suggest you refrain from the childish sarcasm or be reported for your obvious bias and lack of courtesey. Even a Mod should have qualities relevent to the task. Or did Bill and Kerry just let those Mods pick the job themselves? No wonder others would not bother to disclose on such forums, look at the reception they get.

THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Steve_A

Hi THEWATCHER,

I apologise, forgive me. You said something that intrigued me though.

Who were the other 4 UK officers?
Will they coroborate with your story?

You mentioned UK officers, which suggests there could have been officers from other countries.

Who were they?
Will they coroborate with your story?

Best regards,

Steve

Steve, it would be great IF you had ALL the relevent data then you would not be nitpicking, but the only way you can do that is by seeing the original files or at least some of the full interviews (files are 600+ A4 pages) There were 3 other UK officers, the rest were mostly US. I too have been waiting for others to come forward, especially since most of those involved would be in civvy street now and might decide to talk after all this time.
Corroboration is never an easy thing when such classified black budget programs are concerned. When Dr Greer said he had 2 UK people from working with this technology i was very pleased that someone else came forward and wanted to know whom that other person was. A great deal cannot be explained on this forum, its too open, too many unchecked guests each day, a reason why i hold back a great deal. Too many eyes to see whom might not have best interests at heart. With more data you might understand better, but i'm not going to rehash old ground here. I have offered freely copies of materials which will give the whole story without me having to relate it all over again. Once aware of the whole thing, then, only then please, OK?


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by utopiated

Well that's the stage we're at with BK's testimony and why I'm sure we *could* get some significant support going if we could have a bit more to go on from his side. Until then - as you suggest - we're left with using basic NLP/psychology stuff to see if he's

1. Telling the truth
2. Thinks it's the truth but it's someone else's agenda
3. Fibbing to the nth degree.

Anyone tried that backward's masking stuff on his speech??

I've also previously suggested that there must be links from BK to other security guards who could come out and back his claim as having worked at 'AL659'.

Barry's response to asking for even basic evidence is that you don't get to come away with evidence from black-project employment. Which is true. But there's always ways and means. Phil Schneider had little material evidence but I researched his case in depth years ago and came to the conclusion that 90% of his story is real. I even spoke to his wife about the autopsy report - once you hear what went on with that - you know Schneider was murdered.... it was blatant.

Actually its AL499


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[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by carcharodon

Interesting - gray aliens with round eyes just like in Miriam Delicado's interview. How were these engineered beings programmed? Also by sitting in a chair (no elaboration on the interface technology), or genetically? If interfaced, I wonder how did they overcome brain's need for information reinforcement and subsequential learning degradation. If genetically, this means military tech is ahead of publicly available technology by 3+ decades (usually it's less than 10 years). You guys remember it took scientists around the world a nr of years to map human genome. Not so sure about Canadian government involvement, where would that amount of money come from in a country with a relatively small population. Oh yeah, Barry's eyes movements in the video indicate he had to be creative about some of his responses.

Really, whats that supposed to mean please? Amateur psychologists please note all body language and eye responses, speech reversal etc etc.

THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by utopiated

Hi Watcher

We've spoken before a year or more back if you are who I think.

At the time I'd ordered Greer's latest book as it had just come out. I discussed with you the fact that Steve Greer has always maintained that

"We have been producing PLFs since the 1940s"

and he's pointed to your D.P. statement on a few occasions to back this up. Thus the point I made [which few ppl seem to realise] is that it's possible a large degree of S.G.'s notion that all 'grey' abductions are MILAB and ARV based has been made from what you've said. He may well have other [USA related] evidence on top - I don't know.

Greer has softened his former strict associated of "all abductions being MILABs" recently.

You've said you're waiting to be helped to initiate your testimony into a wider scheme of things - but how is anyone going to do this? You mentioned to me that a legal firm had images and/or documents that would help this process? If this is the case - would this not be a useful start to get some backing for your claims?

I have no doubt there are DUMBS on the UK mainland. Read "Left at Eastgate" for one example. I just can't understand why the UK never gets more whistle-blowers on these type issues. We need a Phil Schneider type character to discuss the building of these things over here - that would be a start and would give us something to work with. At the moment - it seems a locked-down issue.

With the response i see, the added sarcasm i'm not too surprised others are not coming forward, its simply not worth the effort


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[Love/Light 13]

Barry-

Don't get too frustrated with the sarcasm. Unfortunately, sarcasm is most people's way of dealing with everyday life.

I myself have to be careful not too get too cynical in my daily life and communications. Those of us who have not had a first hand experience with ET's, etc. often find it very difficult to deal with the realities that we know are being hidden from us. Don't take the sarcasm personally, as hard as that may be.

Thanks again for your contributions to Avalon, your thoughts are much appreciated.

My question for you is this:

I have heard that Steven Greer says he has in his possession "alien technology" that would put the question of the truth of UFO's to rest forever, yet he has refused to release his evidence as of yet. Why the delay? If i had that evidence, i would want it released to the public in a responsible manner as soon as possible.

The secret has bee hidden for too long...........

L/L 13

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may WISDOM guide COMPASSION

"out of MANY, we are ONE"

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Love/Light 13

Barry-

Don't get too frustrated with the sarcasm. Unfortunately, sarcasm is most people's way of dealing with everyday life.

I myself have to be careful not too get too cynical in my daily life and communications. Those of us who have not had a first hand experience with ET's, etc. often find it very difficult to deal with the realities that we know are being hidden from us. Don't take the sarcasm personally, as hard as that may be.

Thanks again for your contributions to Avalon, your thoughts are much appreciated.

My question for you is this:

I have heard that Steven Greer says he has in his possession "alien technology" that would put the question of the truth of UFO's to rest forever, yet he has refused to release his evidence as of yet. Why the delay? If i had that evidence, i would want it released to the public in a responsible manner as soon as possible.

The secret has bee hidden for too long...........

L/L 13

****************************

may WISDOM guide COMPASSION

"out of MANY, we are ONE"

I am fed up with the BS these cynics come out with, as are others. Petty discourteous people, seen this at other forums which were full of such types, ATS being one!!

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[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by the sceptic

Sorry, I`m not digging you out, all I`m saying is that I want to see concrete evidence, and, that applies to everyone. Don`t care where they are from and who they are, to quote Bob Geldof "show me the money".

Thats fine, perfectly logical, trouble being not one whistleblower CAN provide concrete evidence of his or her claims, if they did they would be on the front of every major newspaper. Look at them all, not one can give you that one piece to prove totally can they?


I'm still trying though, with respect and warm wishes


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[Orion11]

pretty weird for a moderator to act like that, steve.

i thought moderators were supposed to conduct themselves differently.

Thanks Barry.

(uh oh, hes gonna call me a Barry fan) when today is the first Ive heard of the gentlman. lol

[swordsmith]

I second that e-motion. Where is the moderators moderator? What exactly is your agenda Steve?

[Orion11]

Originally Posted by swordsmith

I second that e-motion. Where is the moderators moderator? What exactly is your agenda Steve?

Yes Please.

this is what happens when "moderators" sign up for the job themselves , and not picked due to their humility and helpfulness after proving themselves. .

[Jacqui D]

Hi Barry, well i'm ploughing through your data and i am trully interested, i make what i will of all info which feels right for me.
There is a lot of stuff that is focussed on the USA etc not much on Britain this has been a great break through for me because i have known many strange things happening here, the information given regarding the greenham common site does not surprise me one bit.
I have been aware that underground tunnels all over Britain are there but never realised quite where.
The one major one you are confiding in has been a shock to me as some of my family live very near.
I have also known that military take out these abduction scenarios also other than aliens it makes sense,this information was given to me in a dream state.
I asked about an incident in my own area that took place in the 1950's and the information came back pretty clear that it had been a form of mass mind control.
Thanks by the way Barry, i will be waiting for those cd's in the post.

[swordsmith]

Interesting that the women of Greenham Common protesting were microwaved at the site and have had a high incidence of cancer as a result, many are no longer with us.

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by swordsmith

Interesting that the women of Greenham Common protesting were microwaved at the site and have had a high incidence of cancer as a result, many are no longer with us.

Yes strange that, Greenham being (was before closure) the Bravo entrance to the facility


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Jacqui D

Hi Barry, well i'm ploughing through your data and i am trully interested, i make what i will of all info which feels right for me.
There is a lot of stuff that is focussed on the USA etc not much on Britain this has been a great break through for me because i have known many strange things happening here, the information given regarding the greenham common site does not surprise me one bit.
I have been aware that underground tunnels all over Britain are there but never realised quite where.
The one major one you are confiding in has been a shock to me as some of my family live very near.
I have also known that military take out these abduction scenarios also other than aliens it makes sense,this information was given to me in a dream state.
I asked about an incident in my own area that took place in the 1950's and the information came back pretty clear that it had been a form of mass mind control.
Thanks by the way Barry, i will be waiting for those cd's in the post.

All copied and ready for shipment, with my compliments

Best wishes,

THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[Steve_A]

Hi swordsmith,

the moderators moderator are the other moderators. I had to change the title of a tread I created today about the Presidential Elections, because one of the moderators thought it was over the top. I even moderated myself over on the Blossom Goodchild thread, because I thought I could be considered to have gone a little too far. We are consciencious people.

I have to admit I am a controversial bloke at times. I ask questions that others may not like to ask and I say what I think. I never disrespect people, am rude nor offensive or swear in the forum.

I once said to another poster in this thread, "I'm not sorry for what I said, however I'm sorry if you feel offended".

I like to keep energy in the conversation going. I could be a 'Yes' man and just say nothing, keep in the background and wait for 'offenders break the rules' of the forum blah, blah, blah, but I am also allowed to think and put in what I think, even if it does rub people up the wrong way. Life would be very dull if I didn't have a brain!

I don't see why people get so upset, if I make a comment, there is a brilliant opportunity to convince everybody with the evidence. After all it isn't me making the claim. The ônus is on the person who claims. Right?

If I, or anybody else is not satisfied, then we need to ask or 'rattle the cage' to get an answer. I don't see anything wrong in that. If I told you that I was the tallest man in the world, would you accept my word or want to at least see a photo?

Our friend Mr. King as told me he has over 600 pages of documents and photos that he gave away in CD roms some time back. Okay. I'm sure with his advanced technological knowledge he could upload the docs to the internet and let them loose as have all the others. (There I go again - but I'm not trying to be fascicious, just offering a solution). Bill Cooper did this, the USAF has done it, even the RAF have done it, Steven Greer did this they offered references of names, document numbers, places, timeframes, scanned documents. The internet is a powerful tool these days. Get the info out there.

I mean the answer is so simple.

So, to conclude, I have no hidden agenda, no spiteful side to my nature, I do have a need to be convinced and also I do have a sense of humour. If these are crimes, I'm guilty.

Best regards,

Steve

Originally Posted by swordsmith

I second that e-motion. Where is the moderators moderator? What exactly is your agenda Steve?

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Steve_A

Hi swordsmith,

the moderators moderator are the other moderators. I had to change the title of a tread I created today about the Presidential Elections, because one of the moderators thought it was over the top. I even moderated myself over on the Blossom Goodchild thread, because I thought I could be considered to have gone a little too far. We are consciencious people.

I have to admit I am a controversial bloke at times. I ask questions that others may not like to ask and I say what I think. I never disrespect people, am rude nor offensive or swear in the forum.

I once said to another poster in this thread, "I'm not sorry for what I said, however I'm sorry if you feel offended".

I like to keep energy in the conversation going. I could be a 'Yes' man and just say nothing, keep in the background and wait for 'offenders break the rules' of the forum blah, blah, blah, but I am also allowed to think and put in what I think, even if it does rub people up the wrong way. Life would be very dull if I didn't have a brain!

I don't see why people get so upset, if I make a comment, there is a brilliant opportunity to convince everybody with the evidence. After all it isn't me making the claim. The ônus is on the person who claims. Right?

If I, or anybody else is not satisfied, then we need to ask or 'rattle the cage' to get an answer. I don't see anything wrong in that. If I told you that I was the tallest man in the world, would you accept my word or want to at least see a photo?

Our friend Mr. King as told me he has over 600 pages of documents and photos that he gave away in CD roms some time back. Okay. I'm sure with his advanced technological knowledge he could upload the docs to the internet and let them loose as have all the others. (There I go again - but I'm not trying to be fascicious, just offering a solution). Bill Cooper did this, the USAF has done it, even the RAF have done it, Steven Greer did this they offered references of names, document numbers, places, timeframes, scanned documents. The internet is a powerful tool these days. Get the info out there.

I mean the answer is so simple.

So, to conclude, I have no hidden agenda, no spiteful side to my nature, I do have a need to be convinced and also I do have a sense of humour. If these are crimes, I'm guilty.

Best regards,

Steve

In response. The Bases DVDs are over 3gig in size, i have no upload facility available to me to upload approx. 20gig or more of files. The Voice Cds are about 700mb, the Dave Starbuck interview MP3 is a smaller file but still too big for the hostings i have currently. Have no choice but to burn these onto discs and get them to people, FREE of charge, as it seems I've made my millions LOL LOL LOL LOL according to all. Again with the proof thing. How easy do you think it might be getting something substantial, something tangible? IF it were possible, as i said before, it would make headline news around the World, breaking the black budgets wide open. Just ask yourself, how easy it might be for say, a disgruntled NSA or CIA officer bringing actual documentation into the public domain? Its never happened and never will. Like many before me i cannot give that concrete proof, if i had it i would not be spending time trying to inform joe public. I'd be heading to the nearest TV station or newspaper that had the b**** to carry the story. Your approach might need adjusting Steve. Again, you set yourself up as a Mod and not hand picked by the owners for the job, not the way usually done but we are stuck with it. OK the onus might be on us but on the other hand its up to each and every one of you to at least get all the available data to hand before letting off rounds.


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[Jacqui D]

Barry have you heard of margaret Fry she is a well known ufo investigator?
I have my doubts of her authenticity i feel she may be working for the government.
She was a witness to a ufo sighting in Belvedere kent in the 1950's my sister was also a witness at the time she was just a kid then.
we were contacted by her she is quite old now but as far as i know still a constant ufo worker in her right.

She was looking for the kids that saw that ufo all those years ago even today her quest seems endless
My sister never disclosed that information, although the local paper runs the story still today after all those years ago.
We often wondered if my sister and her friends saw something they were not meant to.

I think this sighting was a mass mind control project, do you have any info on anything like that in this area?.

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Jacqui D

Barry have you heard of margaret Fry she is a well known ufo investigator?
I have my doubts of her authenticity i feel she may be working for the government.
She was a witness to a ufo sighting in Belvedere kent in the 1950's my sister was also a witness at the time she was just a kid then.
we were contacted by her she is quite old now but as far as i know still a constant ufo worker in her right.

She was looking for the kids that saw that ufo all those years ago even today her quest seems endless
My sister never disclosed that information, although the local paper runs the story still today after all those years ago.
We often wondered if my sister and her friends saw something they were not meant to.

I think this sighting was a mass mind control project, do you have any info on anything like that in this area?.

yes i know Margaret, we used to communicate back in the heydays of the 70's, might have some papers too more recently, 90's. We compared notes a few times on investigations. My mind needs refreshing on that sighting before i could comment. My days as a ufo investigator ended in around 1980 and played lowkey after that. The FSR cd i am offering people shows the research i did within its pages


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[Jacqui D]

Did you know Barry that her son is the famous Colin Fry the psychic!
I was taken back when i found this out and felt deflated to say the least.
Surely with a son with so much insight he could have given her information that she needed, i smell a red herring here my friend.
She wanted myself and my sister to meet some of her high ranking friends one a top air force pilot from years back he lived around the Port Lymth area in Kent.
We declined we didn't want to meet in someones house it did not feel right.
A little like your meet you had with the top brass all those years ago.

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by Jacqui D

Did you know Barry that her son is the famous Colin Fry the psychic!
I was taken back when i found this out and felt deflated to say the least.
Surely with a son with so much insight he could have given her information that she needed, i smell a red herring here my friend.
She wanted myself and my sister to meet some of her high ranking friends one a top air force pilot from years back he lived around the Port Lymth area in Kent.
We declined we didn't want to meet in someones house it did not feel right.
A little like your meet you had with the top brass all those years ago.

No i did not know that, from all our conversations and correspondence she did not mention that. I find that a little odd to say the least


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[swordsmith]

I would be very interested in your and CDs Barry , please advise.

Steve, you can self proclaim that you are never this way or that, but if people tell you they percieve you as rude, you are.
I think you have been told most eloquently on this thread.
I do appreciate your money knowledge on the other hand, but that is not to say I know anything about that subject.

If Mr King choses to leave at this point it will most likely be due to the attitude you have condoned if not instigated. I think Mr King is worthy of much more interest and RESPECT than the majority of new age nonsense spouted herein and I am tired of endless Blossom Goodchild conjecture.

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by swordsmith

I would be very interested in your and CDs Barry , please advise.

Steve, you can self proclaim that you are never this way or that, but if people tell you they percieve you as rude, you are.
I think you have been told most eloquently on this thread.
I do appreciate your money knowledge on the other hand, but that is not to say I know anything about that subject.

If Mr King choses to leave at this point it will most likely be due to the attitude you have condoned if not instigated. I think Mr King is worthy of much more interest and RESPECT than the majority of new age nonsense spouted herein and I am tired of endless Blossom Goodchild conjecture.

Thankyou. Yes by way of putting everyone in the picture regarding my testimony i thought it a good idea to let people have the full data rather than the few minutes seen on youtube, which is hardly the basis of any real judgement to my validity. I am therefore offering free of charge the following..........copies of BASES ONE, BASES TWO PARTS ONE AND TWO, THE VOICE FILES pdf,THE VOICE FILES CD, over 600A4 pages as originals, THE JAMES CASBOLT INTERVIEW 2007 (for comparison), THE DAVE STARBUCK INTERVIEW 2007. See, i really do earn my millions LOL. Just let me have an addy where i can send them ok?


THE WATCHER AKA BMK

[swordsmith]

Thanks so much, its in your Pm box.

[THEWATCHER]

Originally Posted by swordsmith

Thanks so much, its in your Pm box.

okey dokey


THE WATCHER AKA BMK