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Old 03-17-2010, 10:11 PM   #1
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I am refraining from posting at pa2 for the moment as I am not happy with the way people are being treated. If I do post what I'm thinking they will be pi$sed off with me and will ban me
Grrr I hate rules

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Old 03-17-2010, 10:32 PM   #2
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I am refraining from posting at pa2 for the moment as I am not happy with the way people are being treated. If I do post what I'm thinking they will be pi$sed off with me and will ban me
Grrr I hate rules

So swanny.post it here..they will put you in the mists at the worst..or ban you from this forum...
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Old 03-17-2010, 10:33 PM   #3
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I have a feeling it will backfire at them....
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Old 03-17-2010, 11:59 PM   #4
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I logged into AV2 once, immediately didn't like the vibe, and haven't gone back, and I'm not sure if I will. My vote is to leave Avalon as is.

Invite only to a forum, I don't consider that a forum. That is a closed door club. Makes me think of a bunch of privileged men smoking their cigars in a private lounge discussing how they understand the world works and the rest of the world doesn't have a damn clue, and isn't going to find out because it's behind closed doors. Hmph.

My new Avalon is in Sedona. I think I'm just gonna head back over there and stay put It's not like I can get banned from scaling Bell Rock and enjoying a good ole meditation in the vortex. I'll leave the moderation up to the universe.
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Old 03-18-2010, 12:05 AM   #5
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I am refraining from posting at pa2 for the moment as I am not happy with the way people are being treated. If I do post what I'm thinking they will be pi$sed off with me and will ban me
Grrr I hate rules
Wow, and there lays the problem. You should never feel afraid or concerned for speaking your mind. Especially on a forum promoting "unity" and new paradigms. That is simply unfair and unacceptable.

Ok, here I go...I have to bring this horse back up here, so I do apologize in advance.
The greatest concern that every single member should have is the true triggering of the chaos that unfolded here. Unfortunately, it was predominately due to Moderators argueing and calling each other out openly on the forum for all to see. Then when some of them mentioned agendas playing out behind the scenes...OUCH!!

There's nothing more damaging to the integrity of a business, operation, or forum for that matter than public dissension, hostility, and non-support from it's leaders. Period. Unfortunately, those members who had a human reaction to this behavior, information and accusations exploding in their faces, are the ones being penalyzed. People felt let down, and I've yet seen any apology from the Moderators for the obvious. It's as if we all are to move on and forget about it. That is what will cause the slightest thing that happens next to blow up, because we are not addressing the core issues and member concerns. Folks, I've managed people for 10+ years, trust me on the above statement. How things are being handled now, simply is not a conducive approach or resolve.

Wow!!
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Old 03-18-2010, 12:16 AM   #6
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Invite only to a forum, I don't consider that a forum. That is a closed door club. Makes me think of a bunch of privileged men smoking their cigars in a private lounge discussing how they understand the world works and the rest of the world doesn't have a damn clue
Agreed.

Something I’ve learned and passed on to former supervisory employees of mine and co-workers (managers and supervisors) is that there is no need to “set up” undesirables for failure or removal. For repeat offender’s almost always repeat undesirable behaviors…that offends. If not, then the necessary adjustment has been made by the offender. Therefore, if you establish up front that all are welcomed back along with a specific new protocol (thoroughly outlined and shared with all) that will result in read only or removal/banned status. You have core principles/procedure i place.

“It is fine to identify the bad apples on the tree, but don’t pick them off. They will eventually rot away and fall off on their own.”
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