Getting pretty ridiculous

justpeter · 03-13-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross H

If they do become members and exhibit traits that are not conducive to the overall vibe of the community they will be shown the door.

I would humbly suggest that a more effective form of ethics be used, such as communicating with the person to find out why he/she behaves in such a manner, help them to see why they are acting inappropriately and give him/her a chance to apologise and change their behaviour. Only when all else fails, kick them out.

I've been there, done that, bought the T-shirt - trust me, I know.

Ross H · 03-13-2010, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by justpeter

I would humbly suggest that a more effective form of ethics be used, such as communicating with the person to find out why he/she behaves in such a manner, help them to see why they are acting inappropriately and give him/her a chance to apologise and change their behaviour. Only when all else fails, kick them out.

I've been there, done that, bought the T-shirt - trust me, I know.

This is how we do things, members recieve PM's outlining the concerns. Always the path of understanding and communication is given.

This will also continue with AV2...frankly Im surprised you would think otherwise.

Sincerely

raulduke · 03-13-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Ross H

This is how we do things, members recieve PM's outlining the concerns. Always the path of understanding and communication is given.

Is this how you would characterize how the members above "in the mist" were treated?

I know for a fact that at least one member from my op was given no warning or reason for his mistification.

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Originally Posted by burgundia

I guess the timelines are splitting too..choose wisely on which one you want to be...

Yup burgundia's right. Think very carefully when making your choice people.

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Originally Posted by Ross H

Its like this...There is enough crap and b/s in the real world that we live in, so, this will be a place that offers peace and goodwill to kindred spirits who wish for a place to gather and chill and contribute. Its that simple.

I understand and respect that Ross, it does sound nice honestly, but what will it take, what has it already taken to ge there?

Will it all have been worth it?

Were there more honest ways to attain this goal (that might have taken just a bit longer)?

Are you sure that you (anyone in the position) want to make judgements on the worth of people you barely know?

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Originally Posted by justpeter

Yeah, this worries me too. I spent over 15 years in Scientology and those guys are HOT on Ethics.

Yikes. That seems to be a theme among...nevermind

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Good night pa (wonder if I wake up in the mists, hmm will sleep with my headlamp and rain gear on

).

raulduke · 03-13-2010, 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by raulduke

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross H

This is how we do things, members recieve PM's outlining the concerns. Always the path of understanding and communication is given.

Is this how you would characterize how the members above "in the mist" were treated?

I know for a fact that at least one member from my op was given no warning or reason for his mistification.

Bumping, would like an answer here.

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Originally Posted by Ross H

This will also continue with AV2...frankly Im surprised you would think otherwise.

I don't know why you're surprised at members' concerns here. It's seems pretty that obvious we're getting a preview here of how av2 will operate, which right now to me, sounds like a bunch of vapid 'enlightened' people patting each other on the back, ever carefully watching their words for fear of accidentally saying something controversial and getting booted.

Personally I don't want to be part of any society where my worth is constantly being reevaluated/judged by some high panel of self appointed 'enlightened' beings.

hobbit · 03-14-2010, 12:17 AM

Yawn,
Fiddling whilst Rome burns.
Hobbit

Nebula9D · 03-14-2010, 12:40 AM

Wow..i just noticed this post. Yeah men, Anchor, Luminari, Jonah, UncleJohn, MyPlanet2, Helvetic, Eleni are all in the mist..you know... why... for speaking up. Spregovori resigned, Futureeyes, Murda, Gnosis5, Carol and now Karen are leaving. Oh i also noticed, Northern Boy is not a mod anymore!? .. Leaves one asking wtf?
Asking for the Truth is an honest endeavor, no matter if you are mod or not.

I'm all for the new AV 2.0 and sticking to the original spirit and intend thereof, that's why we are all here and all would agree. But the events of late, makes people hesitant to continue on with AV 2.0, good intentions and all.

JesterTerrestrial · 03-14-2010, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Nebula9D

Wow..i just noticed this post. Yeah men, Anchor, Luminari, Jonah, UncleJohn, MyPlanet2, Helvetic, Eleni are all in the mist..you know... why... for speaking up. Spregovori resigned, Futureeyes, Murda, Gnosis5, Carol and now Karen are leaving. Oh i also noticed, Northern Boy is not a mod anymore!? .. Leaves one asking wtf?
Asking for the Truth is an honest endeavor, no matter if you are mod or not.

I'm all for the new AV 2.0 and sticking to the original spirit and intend thereof, that's why we are all here and all would agree. But the events of late, makes people hesitant to continue on with AV 2.0, good intentions and all.

WHERE IS THE LOVE!!!

Hmmmmmm.....

JT!

Nebula9D · 03-14-2010, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by JesterTerrestrial

WHERE IS THE LOVE!!!

Hmmmmmm.....

JT!

In to the mist i guess!

Harper · 03-14-2010, 04:34 AM

When all is lost thats the moment to look about you and remember that you are a human being and this is the moment of confusion,

The moment when all the confusions combine, take a second and you will see you, that you are the one looking at you.

THE eXchanger · 03-14-2010, 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Harper

When all is lost thats the moment to look about you and remember that you are a human being and this is the moment of confusion,

The moment when all the confusions combine, take a second and you will see you, that you are the one looking at you.

SAID, like a true frenchman

Greetings · 03-14-2010, 06:59 AM

I've been coming closer to it as my joining in Avalon here began

And after reading this thread, I think I have begun to understand

That free speech is burdened not with judgement or second thoughts

It is as free as you or me, he or she - a mind with a single cot.

Your world is debasing, it is changing still

As it always has, As it always will

Only those, that resist Change's words

Will cry for allies, to maintain the same herds

Look within and you shall reveal

A mind that clasps down tight

Upon All the answers and endless meals

That will fill thee full with might

A forum not holdeth the keynote answer

But shine a light for a speck to be seen

Whilst allowing the gaping and gawking cancer

To seep out, in, above, and below

Killing while being so keen.

Thank you for insights and helpful thoughts, but the fully light of truth can be seen in your mind through deep concentration

"A wise man knows he knows nothing."

raulduke · 03-14-2010, 10:15 AM

Looks like mods are keeping their heads down, I really would like an answer to this though, as the more I think about it, the more hypocritical it seems.

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Originally Posted by raulduke

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ross H

This is how we do things, members recieve PM's outlining the concerns. Always the path of understanding and communication is given.

Is this how you would characterize how the members above "in the mist" were treated?

I know for a fact that at least one member from my op was given no warning or reason for his mistification.

Where was the understanding and communication?

Ross, I'm sorry but the more I think about that response, the more I think you must think we are pretty stupid if you expect us to believe that, with all that's been happening here.

Seems like mods are trying to keep something under wraps until they can sneak out the back door (av2) at which point it won't matter anymore?
If some corners were cut, deals were made, whatever, the truth needs to be told.

I know it probably doesn't matter to any mods really, but I want to say that I've lost alot of respect I had for any mods still here in the wake of all the shady unexplained mistifications.

burgundia · 03-14-2010, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by raulduke

Seems like mods are trying to keep something under wraps .

it is really sad, but to me it is like :"You want to know the truth? You can't handle the truth"...

Harper · 03-14-2010, 12:46 PM

MIST is the german word for dung or manuure......just thought Id mention it.

Btw exchanger, Im a girl hehehehehe

iainl140285 · 03-14-2010, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Harper

MIST is the german word for dung or manuure......just thought Id mention it.

Btw exchanger, Im a girl hehehehehe

And Irish!

Harper · 03-14-2010, 12:55 PM

hehehehehe Iain

So Raulduke, how do you feel about it today?

EsmaEverheart · 03-14-2010, 01:16 PM

I am a "newly awoken." I don't know what is going on here, nor do I much care about infighting. I am here to learn. If it wasn't for PC's YouTube I would still be slumbering. Anyway that is my 2 cents.

swordsmith · 03-14-2010, 01:44 PM

stick around buddy there is lots to learn here, and when the plug is pulled on this part of the induction training and if you've been really cooperative, like don't ask too many questions you too may be given a seat on the ship of fools soon to be launched , that is if you pass the spiritual advisors sniff test . no offence.

enquiring minds not invited.

Seashore · 03-14-2010, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by swordsmith

stick around buddy there is lots to learn here, and when the plug is pulled on this part of the induction training and if you've been really cooperative, like don't ask too many questions you too may be given a seat on the ship of fools soon to be launched , that is if you pass the spiritual advisors sniff test . no offence.

enquiring minds not invited.

Harper · 03-14-2010, 02:00 PM

Swordsmith, I dont know what you are talking about, everything is fine, I mean everything is fine isnt it?

LALALALALALA I cant hear you because I am concentrating on how fine everything is.

Fine absolutely fine, fine fine fine,

Nothing to see here, keep moving....

What are those people up ahead here for, whats that funny smell, does that smell like gas to you. Oh Im sure everything is fin.......

swordsmith · 03-14-2010, 02:07 PM

oh I am sorry, a WEE bit of gas may have escaped....

Harper · 03-14-2010, 02:13 PM

everything is FINE

hehehehehe

Seashore · 03-14-2010, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Harper

am concentrating on how fine everything is.

Fine absolutely fine, fine fine fine,

Nothing to see here, keep moving....

Operator · 03-14-2010, 03:37 PM

I thought we ALL understood here to stay away from CONTROL ?

what I see happening here is people fighting over GAINING CONTROL and others FEARING CONTROL ...

I also thought that many of us understood David Icke's hint of not participating in this game anymore ...

The forum is now filling up with threads on this issue .... and what you pay attention to is what you become aware of !! (just a reminder).

I think I will rather be paying attention to other things until the fallout settles here.

THE eXchanger · 03-14-2010, 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JesterTerrestrial

WHERE IS THE LOVE!!!

Hmmmmmm.....

JT!

thankfully JT it is still all on your thread

THANK YOU

03-14-2010, 12:17 AM	#5
hobbit Unsubscribed Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 180	Re: Getting pretty ridiculous Yawn, Fiddling whilst Rome burns. Hobbit

03-14-2010, 12:40 AM	#6
Nebula9D Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Gaia Posts: 107	Re: Getting pretty ridiculous Wow..i just noticed this post. Yeah men, Anchor, Luminari, Jonah, UncleJohn, MyPlanet2, Helvetic, Eleni are all in the mist..you know... why... for speaking up. Spregovori resigned, Futureeyes, Murda, Gnosis5, Carol and now Karen are leaving. Oh i also noticed, Northern Boy is not a mod anymore!? .. Leaves one asking wtf? Asking for the Truth is an honest endeavor, no matter if you are mod or not. I'm all for the new AV 2.0 and sticking to the original spirit and intend thereof, that's why we are all here and all would agree. But the events of late, makes people hesitant to continue on with AV 2.0, good intentions and all. Last edited by Nebula9D; 03-14-2010 at 12:43 AM.

03-14-2010, 04:34 AM	#9
Harper Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Paris Posts: 467	Re: Getting pretty ridiculous When all is lost thats the moment to look about you and remember that you are a human being and this is the moment of confusion, The moment when all the confusions combine, take a second and you will see you, that you are the one looking at you.

03-14-2010, 06:59 AM	#11
Greetings Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Rocky Mountains, NA Posts: 98	Re: Getting pretty ridiculous I've been coming closer to it as my joining in Avalon here began And after reading this thread, I think I have begun to understand That free speech is burdened not with judgement or second thoughts It is as free as you or me, he or she - a mind with a single cot. Your world is debasing, it is changing still As it always has, As it always will Only those, that resist Change's words Will cry for allies, to maintain the same herds Look within and you shall reveal A mind that clasps down tight Upon All the answers and endless meals That will fill thee full with might A forum not holdeth the keynote answer But shine a light for a speck to be seen Whilst allowing the gaping and gawking cancer To seep out, in, above, and below Killing while being so keen. *Thank you for insights and helpful thoughts, but the fully light of truth can be seen in your mind through deep concentration* "A wise man knows he knows nothing."

03-14-2010, 12:46 PM	#14
Harper Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Paris Posts: 467	Re: Getting pretty ridiculous MIST is the german word for dung or manuure......just thought Id mention it. Btw exchanger, Im a girl hehehehehe

03-14-2010, 12:55 PM	#16
Harper Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Paris Posts: 467	Re: Getting pretty ridiculous hehehehehe Iain So Raulduke, how do you feel about it today?

03-14-2010, 01:16 PM	#17
EsmaEverheart Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 4	Re: Getting pretty ridiculous I am a "newly awoken." I don't know what is going on here, nor do I much care about infighting. I am here to learn. If it wasn't for PC's YouTube I would still be slumbering. Anyway that is my 2 cents.

03-14-2010, 01:44 PM	#18
swordsmith Unsubscribed Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: south east uk Posts: 379	Re: Getting pretty ridiculous stick around buddy there is lots to learn here, and when the plug is pulled on this part of the induction training and if you've been really cooperative, like don't ask too many questions you too may be given a seat on the ship of fools soon to be launched , that is if you pass the spiritual advisors sniff test . no offence. enquiring minds not invited.

03-14-2010, 02:00 PM	#20
Harper Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Paris Posts: 467	Re: Getting pretty ridiculous Swordsmith, I dont know what you are talking about, everything is fine, I mean everything is fine isnt it? LALALALALALA I cant hear you because I am concentrating on how fine everything is. Fine absolutely fine, fine fine fine, Nothing to see here, keep moving.... What are those people up ahead here for, whats that funny smell, does that smell like gas to you. Oh Im sure everything is fin.......

03-14-2010, 02:07 PM	#21
swordsmith Unsubscribed Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: south east uk Posts: 379	Re: Getting pretty ridiculous oh I am sorry, a WEE bit of gas may have escaped....

03-14-2010, 02:13 PM	#22
Harper Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Paris Posts: 467	Re: Getting pretty ridiculous everything is FINE hehehehehe

03-14-2010, 03:37 PM	#24
Operator Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Caribbean Posts: 375	Re: Getting pretty ridiculous I thought we ALL understood here to stay away from CONTROL ? what I see happening here is people fighting over GAINING CONTROL and others FEARING CONTROL ... I also thought that many of us understood David Icke's hint of not participating in this game anymore ... The forum is now filling up with threads on this issue .... and what you pay attention to is what you become aware of !! (just a reminder). I think I will rather be paying attention to other things until the fallout settles here.