Recent War in our Solar System By Norval & Gale

[Shechaiyah]

Human forms on the Moon:



This very famous photo is very difficult to unpack. However, there are human forms in the upper left and lower right. It's a mess, but we've all seen that square box that somebody thought was a moonbase. In fact, it's an electrical box on top of a corrugated metal roof.

:shrug:
Shech--

[Shechaiyah]

Hominid forms hidden in the shadow, hard to see due to excessive contrast:



There are human forms in these. That's three-for-three.


Shech--

[Bobcat]

Sorry I can't add anything but I'd just like to say, thank you all for a very good read.

Kind Regards

Bobcat

[Norval]

Using the Mars map we were able to find the longest concise and systematic crater chain on Mars.

Images like this one helped in searching for crater chains on Mars.

[Norval]

Now look at these.

A "moon" of Saturn, and in a very strange orbit, Iapetus, Hoaglands "moon With A
View". http://www.enterprisemission.com/moon1.htm




He wonders at the destruction, as do I. What would be left of a dreadnought battle
cruiser if pummeled by atomics after the attacks? Like this?

very interesting...

[2infinityandbeyond]

Thank you for sharing your research Norval. Although most of mine has been done exploring the theory that there was a nuclear war on earth i had planned to accumulate enough information to put up a good case that there was in fact many wars fought in our solar system.

Youve saved me a lot of digging, hopefully i can make some valuable contributions to this post later on. Right now things are kinda busy for me but its well up there on my 'to do' list.

[Gale]

Moon with a View

This image of Iapetus is borrowed from Richard Hoagland’s report shows the ridge up close. The ridge is 20-kilometer wide (12 miles), peak of the ridge reaches at least 13 kilometers (8 miles) above the surrounding terrain, roughly 1,300 kilometer (800 mile) in length, almost exactly parallel to the equator. What is unique is the concise and systematic crater chains running along the very top of the ridge.

For just 13 strikes in a row the odds of that is virtually impossible. If you were a betting person you would win all the lotteries but to run crater chains precisely along the top ridge is phenomenal.

We have investigated this image; it has not been released to the public but through Richard Hoagland. We are still waiting for Richard’s last page, Coming soon: the extraordinary Part 7 Conclusion of “Moon with a View” since 2005, hopefully it will be done soon.

Case in point, the Heavenly New Jerusalem is 1500 miles big, where as Iapetus is 892 miles big, bringing into question many of the small moons in our solar system.

[Gale]

If the picture from Richard Hoagland’s site does not load for you it is on this web page or cut and paste his url into a new blank web page address bar.

http://www.enterprisemission.com/moon1.htm

http://www.enterprisemission.com/ima...-Wall-CL-s.jpg

This maybe a glitch with displaying images or with displaying images from Richard Hoagland's web site.

[100thmonkey]

Originally Posted by Gale

This image of Iapetus is borrowed from Richard Hoagland’s report shows the ridge up close. The ridge is 20-kilometer wide (12 miles), peak of the ridge reaches at least 13 kilometers (8 miles) above the surrounding terrain, roughly 1,300 kilometer (800 mile) in length, almost exactly parallel to the equator. What is unique is the concise and systematic crater chains running along the very top of the ridge.

For just 13 strikes in a row the odds of that is virtually impossible. If you were a betting person you would win all the lotteries but to run crater chains precisely along the top ridge is phenomenal.

Here's some more info on Iaeputus and it's strange ridge, which would also explain why there would be such crater-chaining aligned precisely along the top of the ridge:
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...418iapetus.htm
Also:
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...etusrising.htm

[Antaletriangle]

Strange ray like scars on mercury.

Mercury-The planet Mercury has been known since history has been recorded, but parts of the Solar System's innermost planet have never been seen like this before. Two days ago the robotic MESSENGER spacecraft buzzed past Mercury for the second time and imaged terrain mapped previously only by comparatively crude radar. The above image was recorded as MESSENGER looked back 90 minutes after passing, from an altitude of about 27,000 kilometers. Visible in the above image, among many other newly imaged features, are unusually long rays that appear to run like meridians of longitude out from a young crater near the northern limb. MESSENGER is scheduled to fly past Mercury once more before firing its thrusters to enter orbit in 2011.
courtesy: Astronomy picture of the day.

[Norval]

Monkey,

"Why is it that you (Norval/Gale) dismiss the E.U. arcing theory?"

That was answered quite awhile ago, if you had bothered to read the thread, and our answer is
still sticking to us. Posting #34

"I also don't discount the idea of ancient wars in space, etc. I think the ancient gods and angels
were really the ET's..."

That comment would be classed misdirection for these reasons. This final war that was fought, in
which our astronomers witnessed Mars being destroyed, was very recent, not ancient. Also that
these so called gods ARE the ETs, not were the ETs. You also may want to take note that the
EU and thunderbolts came along a couple years after Gale and I submitted our research to
NASA. Thus we think it is mostly misdirection and disinformation. As did many other sites.

"BTW is this your site?"

No
As the premise of this thread states, of which, again, you have failed to read the thread, is about
the bibles explanation of these oddities in our solar system that point to war as the most
reasonable answer and not some happenstance electrical discharge. And, for sure not some
fanciful "spiritualistic" ideology or philosophy. Thank you.

[Norval]

When it comes to war it is the aftermath that hits the people the hardest. After that war in our
solar system and the defeated bad ETs thrown down to the earth, we have this to think about.

Re: The Search for Truth - Amnesty or Vengeance?

The Search for Truth - Amnesty or Vengeance?

Quote:
Kerry said;
"Whether "the people" are able to forgive them, and limit vengeance will be partially due
to projects like ours that began to reveal the truth to the people."
And,
"... Some may not be so generous."

Many have heard this;
"Vengeance is mine," says the Lord, "I will repay."
Understanding that this is the King of all the Galaxies speaking, coming to take
vengeance, deliver the oppressed, puts that message and this topic in a different light
altogether.

Because of what has happened to friends, loved ones, and ones involved in this research,
I, for one, would love to take vengeance into my own hands. I will not though, but I do
fervently hope that I will be chosen to help in the delivery of that vengeance that is coming
upon all those that have harmed mankind and didn't want Jesus to become King and
killed him once. Yes, King Jesus is returning, (has returned from the looks of our solar
system), and with an attitude. We can no more stop, nor alter, that vengeance than we
can, or have stopped, corruption here

This is a post that I would have preferred not to make, yet it needed to be said.

For some it will be a "doom and gloom" post while for others it will mean "deliverance
and exhilaration". This is a "whistle blower" testimony about a finished message from ET,
the bible, that has been in our hands now for two thousand years.

Religionocity and demonocracy have no place in a monarchy.
The technology of the bad ET’s / fallen angels is just fools play compared to what is
coming.

Sincerely
Norval L. Cunningham Where's the "whistle blower one?
__________________
What will you know tomorrow?

[100thmonkey]

Originally Posted by Norval

You also may want to take note that the
EU and thunderbolts came along a couple years after Gale and I submitted our research to
NASA. Thus we think it is mostly misdirection and disinformation. As did many other sites.

As I gather you have been with Gale 7 years?
The Electric Universe has been in theory since at least the 70's, with others suspecting the same, back to Velikovsky and Tesla...

Regarding post 34, which I had read but saw that someone else had answered, it assumes arcing is stopped by distance and vacuum...?
Except the EU model shows the Universe is not just a vacuum:

"Mainstream science, for the most part, looks on the universe as electrically neutral and purely mechanical; a place where the weak force of gravity holds fort. Plasma Cosmology, by contrast, acknowledges the electrodynamic nature of the universe. Gravity and inertia are NOT the only forces at work.

...Plasma sometimes emits light when under the excitation of electrical and magnetic fields. Polar auroras bear witness to this fact.

...Plasma is almost everywhere. At least ninety-nine percent of the known universe is, in fact, matter in its plasma state!

...Because plasma remains electrically charged in space, it is influenced more by electromagnetic forces than gravity. In fact space, once considered mostly empty, has been found to be alive with plasma. Vast flows of charged particles have been discovered spanning hundreds-of-thousands of light years across interstellar space.

...Plasma is an excellent conductor of electricity. Because of its free-flowing electrons its conductive properties far surpass those of copper and gold."
http://www.plasmacosmology.net/

http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...olidplasma.htm
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...050503eu-1.htm

"I also don't discount the idea of ancient wars in space, etc. I think the ancient gods and angels were really the ET's..."

That comment would be classed misdirection for these reasons. This final war that was fought, in which our astronomers witnessed Mars being destroyed, was very recent, not ancient. Also that these so called gods ARE the ETs, not were the ETs.

It's not misdirection on my part. I'm not saying the ET's that were witnessed in ancient times are all gone, never to return. Indeed I think they are still around. They still 'were', as in 'in those days', the one's responsible for gifting certain technologies, as characters like Oannes, the fallen Watchers, etc.

However I think the 'wars' that were witnessed were plasma phenomena, along with planetary movements as described by Velikovsky, etc. That it was planetary collisions (or near misses) that produced the wreckage of Marduk as the Asteroid field, Phobos, Daemos, the scar on Mars, the shifting of Earth's orbit/axis, and so on.

These close passes of huge bodies in the solar system would have caused major electric arcing between themselves, causing not only the scars seen today but being interpreted as wars of the gods, cosmic serpents, etc.
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...s-rock-art.htm
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...n-rock-art.htm
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...-mythology.htm
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...513serpent.htm


Coinciding with mega-floods (as the earth's oceans spilled across continets), earthquakes and volcanoes, these times would certainly be recorded in myths and legends.
When combined with the actual contacts with ET's, as recorded by Sumerians, Egyptians, etc, you later get books like the bible (compiled from those two cultures during the two 'captivities' of the 'Israelites', and also mixed with native Canaanite stories).
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/20...nderbolt-1.htm

[100thmonkey]

Originally Posted by 100thmonkey

...However I think the 'wars' that were witnessed were plasma phenomena, along with planetary movements as described by Velikovsky, etc. That it was planetary collisions (or near misses) that produced the wreckage of Marduk as the Asteroid field, Phobos, Daemos, the scar on Mars, the shifting of Earth's orbit/axis, and so on.

These close passes of huge bodies in the solar system would have caused major electric arcing between themselves, causing not only the scars seen today but being interpreted as wars of the gods, cosmic serpents, etc...

Here's a great little extract from Plato's 'History of Atlantis'

Plato's grandfather, Solon, questioned the priests in Egypt about early history.
Sonchis of Sais answers:

"…one of the priests, who was of very great age; said, 'O Solon, Solon, you Hellenes are but children, and there is never an old man who is an Hellene.'

Solon, bearing this, said, 'What do you mean?'

'I mean to say,' he replied, 'that in mind you are all young; there is no old opinion handed down among you by ancient tradition, nor any science which is hoary with age. And I will tell you the reason of this: there have been, and there will be again, many destructions of mankind arising out of many causes.

There is a story which even you have preserved, that once upon a time Phaëthon, the son of Helios, having yoked the steeds in his father's chariot, because he was not able to drive them in the path of his father, burnt up all that was upon the earth, and was himself destroyed by a thunderbolt.

Now, this has the form of a myth, but really signifies a declination of the bodies moving around the earth and in the heavens, and a great conflagration of things upon the earth recurring at long intervals of time: when this happens, those who live upon the mountains and in dry and lofty places are more liable to destruction than those who dwell by rivers or on the sea-shore; and from this calamity the Nile, who is our never-failing savior, saves and delivers us.

When, on the other hand, the gods purge the earth with a deluge of water, among you herdsmen and shepherds on the mountains are the survivors, whereas those of you who live in cities are carried by the rivers into the sea; but in this country neither at that time nor at any other does the water come from above on the fields, having always a tendency to come up from below, for which reason the things preserved here are said to be the oldest. The fact is, that wherever the extremity of winter frost or of summer sun does not prevent, the human race is always increasing at times, and at other times diminishing in numbers. And whatever happened either in your country or in ours, or in any other region of which we are informed - if any action which is noble or great, or in any other way remarkable has taken place, all that has been written down of old, and is preserved in our temples;

Whereas you and other nations are just being provided with letters and the other things which States require; and then, at the usual period, the stream from heaven descends like a pestilence, and leaves only those of you who are destitute of letters and education; and thus you have to begin all over again as children, and know nothing of what happened in ancient times, either among us or among yourselves.

As for those genealogies of yours which you have recounted to us, Solon, they are no better than the tales of children; for, in the first place, you remember one deluge only, whereas there were many of them; and, in the next place, you do not know that there dwelt in your land the fairest and noblest race of men which ever lived, of whom you and your whole city are but a seed or remnant.

And this was unknown to you, because for many generations the survivors of that destruction died and made no sign. For there was a time, Solon, before that great deluge of all, when the city which now is Athens was first in war, and was preeminent for the excellence of her laws, and is said to have performed the noblest deeds, and to have had the fairest constitution of any of which tradition tells, under the face of heaven.'

Solon marvelled at this, and earnestly requested the priest to inform him exactly and in order about these former citizens. 'You are welcome to hear about them, Solon,' said the priest, 'both for your own sake and for that of the city; and, above all, for the sake of the goddess who is the common patron and protector and educator of both our cities. She founded your city a thousand years before ours, receiving from the Earth and Hephæstus the seed of your race, and then she founded ours, the constitution of which is set down in our sacred registers as 8000 years old."

- continues into the famous story of Atlantis...

[Gnosis5]

As a clinical researcher my job is to throw out fresh ideas for others to mull over. The latest idea that has come to my attention is that we may actually be existing in a "pocket universe", not the actual physical universe, but a pocket of it which has a radius of about 1.3 lightyears. Now, who would want to do a thing like that? And why?

[bodzoyfa]

Originally Posted by Norval

No More information from me or Gale at this SOLD OUT forum, , Bill and Kerry YOU sold us all out, , , it is very obvious.

What are you talking about exactly?

[JohnWdoe]

Originally Posted by Norval

No More information from me or Gale at this SOLD OUT forum, , Bill and Kerry YOU sold us all out, , , it is very obvious.

We thank you for this information but accusations of selling out are quite not understandable, i would like to know why you think this.

[Norval]

While doing the CS crater chain research we found that "in person" 1% of the people we
have talked with vehemently agreed that these concise and systematic chains of craters
are caused by a comet or asteroid. 99% agreed with us that this was literally impossible
to have happened by "chance".

On the internet forums of science, astronomy, and S.E.T.I. sites we found the exact
opposite. We, and the very few that agreed with us, were mercilessly set upon by IAC
agents (thought police) and the Bad ET's, so called "professional skeptics and
debunkers". Gale and I were "literally" killed, hell, we got slaughtered.

That was a major wake up call about these agents on the web.

Who SOLD OUT Who?
The "Sell Out", or bending to the powers that be, has kept them, and their loved ones,
"safe". Several sites we posted our information about the CS crater chain research are
gone, or our posts were removed. Yes, we stand by the bible's explanation of "why" all
this is going on. We found it is the only source of reliable true information to base the
"why" of what we see in the world today.

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ead.php?t=2094

Over the years we have been in contact with people from all over the world. Scientists,
mathematicians, theologians, you can pretty much name the fields of learning and we have
had to talk to them as our research spanned such a broad base. Many of them are, or
have left the US. Some were not allowed to leave, or were "called back", even forced to
return.

Now, all of a sudden, we are seeing a turn around by some of those agents, but not the
Bad ET's as they just want all humans dead. What we are now seeing is some of the PtB
seem to think it is time for this information to be allowed out. Bill and Kerry's Avalon
forum appears to be the means of delivery for this information. With or with out their
knowledge. So, with this in mind I do apologize for saying they "sold out", when in fact it
seems to me this information that Gale and I have been providing is vital to the Ground
Crew. IF the bible is really about the UFO/ET connection, then it also contains the
information about what needs to be done to prepare ourselves for Disclosure Day, and
after. Bill, and Kerry, should have banned me, but didn't. That said allot.

[arcora]

Norval was kind enough to ask for my comments on this post - which I will give.

It is long and many here won't like it, but it is the Truth.

So, here I go, a non-Bible-thumper giving one single, loud and long thump.

From a little book written a couple thousand years ago....


The observations Norval made, while accurate and prescient are just a small piece of

the puzzle.

Luke 21:25
And there will be signs in the sun and moon and stars, and there will be upon the earth anguish of the nations in perplexity at the roaring of the sea and rolling waves,

But this is just the beginning. For those of you that believe a cosmic cataclysm is

coming in 2012 (or 2009) you're in good company:

Matthew 24:3
Now while he was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him
privately, saying, “Tell us, when will these things happen? And what is the sign of your coming and the end of the world?”

Matthew 24:14
And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole inhabited earth for a testimony to all the nations, and then the end will come.

Matthew 24: 29 -30
Now immediately after the tribulation of those days, THE SUN WILL BE DARKENED, AND THE MOON WILL NOT GIVE ITS LIGHT, AND THE STARS WILL FALL FROM HEAVEN, AND THE POWERS OF THE HEAVENS WILL BE SHAKEN.
And at that time the sign of the Son of Man will appear in the sky, and then all the nations of the earth will mourn. And they will see the SON OF MAN COMING UPON THE CLOUDS OF THE SKY with power and great glory.

So, if one believes in a coming cosmic cataclysm, he should now see that it was foretold a long time ago.

But wait...there's more....

For those of you who believe in the NWO, fascism and coming one world government, you're also in good company.

Matthew 24:4-14
Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, 'I am the Christ, ' and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains. "Then you will be handed over to be persecuted and put to death, and you will be hated by all nations because of me. At that time many will turn away from the faith and will betray and hate each other, and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people. Because of the increase of wickedness, the love of most will
grow cold, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved. And this gospel of the kingdom will be preached in the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.

Many here expect a false alien invasion event. You're in good company too.

Revelation 13:13-15
The second beast performs spectacular signs. It even makes fire come down from heaven to earth in front of people. It deceives those living on earth with the signs that it is allowed to do in front of the [first] beast. It tells those living on earth to make a statue for the beast who was wounded by a sword and yet lived.

The second beast was allowed to put breath into the statue of the [first] beast. Then the statue of the [first] beast could talk and put to death whoever would not worship it.

But what about Planet X (Nibiru)? The Bible covers that too.

Revelation 8:10-12
When the second angel blew his trumpet, something like a large burning mountain was hurled into the sea. A third of the sea turned to blood, a third of the creatures living in the sea died, and a third of the ships were wrecked. When the third angel blew his trumpet, a large star burning like a torch fell from the sky. It fell on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water. The star was called "Wormwood," and a third of all the water turned to wormwood. Many people died from this water, because it was made bitter. When the fourth angel blew his trumpet, a third of the sun, a third of the moon, and a third of the stars were struck, so that a third of them became dark. The day lost its light for a third of the time, as did the night.

And finally (because this is my one and only thump) for the resident new-agers who's spirit guides told them that all they need is love - you may not be in such good company as you think.

1 John 4:1-3
Beloved, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see if they are from God, because many false prophets have gone out into the world. By this you know the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God; And every spirit which does not confess Jesus is not from God; and this is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming, and is now already in the world.

2 John 7
For many deceivers have gone out into the world, who do not acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in the flesh. This one is the deceiver and the antichrist.

1 John 2:18 Little children, it is the last hour, and just as you heard that Antichrist is coming, even now many antichrists have come. From this fact we know that it is the last hour.

And last, the good news.

Luke 21:28
But when these things begin to come to pass, look up, and lift up your heads; because your redemption draweth nigh.

[GregorArturo]

Damn arcora, thanks for sharing. I told a friend a couple days ago, if **** hits the fan and I'm sitting on a mountain growing my own food, doing my own thing, I'm gonna read the bible. And I'm gonna stick to that statement. Thanks!

[Cookie]

I'm not a christian or a bible thumper either. I have my spiritual beliefs like many of us here... that being said, Norval, I do agree with you that the 'bad', reptilian ETs are the demons and fallen angels of the ancient peoples of the world. I believe that 'they' are the entities that created deity worship to control and manipulate mankind. I believe that Yahweh of the old testament was one of these entities. Billions of people are blindly worshiping these so-called gods... I believe that the Roman Church is fully aware of this and is in collusion with these entities..keeping dark secrets all for the sake of power.

I also believe that most of the angels in the bible were fallen angels masquerading of beings of light and love, all for the purpose of keeping mankind "on the right path"..so that they would continue to worship alien "gods".

On my Yahoo homepage, I have news feeds from space.com and Reuters science news... I've been noticing a trend in the reporting... the articles are starting to hint at ... alien life (?). Somethings about to happen.. Can you feel it? Is somebody about to spill the beans?!? And if 'they' are...why now? Is their hand being forced for some reason? hhmmmmm....

Peace..OE

[betweenyouandme]

Just to say... as an avid bible reader.... This is just epic lol. Great great stuff everyone. Thanks for all the hard work to everyone involved.
You guys have my love and support,

Originally Posted by arcora

Norval was kind enough to ask for my comments on this post - which I will give.

It is long and many here won't like it, but it is the Truth.

So, here I go, a non-Bible-thumper giving one single, loud and long thump.

From a little book written a couple thousand years ago....


The observations Norval made, while accurate and prescient are just a small piece of

the puzzle.




But this is just the beginning. For those of you that believe a cosmic cataclysm is

coming in 2012 (or 2009) you're in good company:



So, if one believes in a coming cosmic cataclysm, he should now see that it was foretold a long time ago.

But wait...there's more....

For those of you who believe in the NWO, fascism and coming one world government, you're also in good company.



Many here expect a false alien invasion event. You're in good company too.



But what about Planet X (Nibiru)? The Bible covers that too.



And finally (because this is my one and only thump) for the resident new-agers who's spirit guides told them that all they need is love - you may not be in such good company as you think.



And last, the good news.

[Norval]

Heads up, we will be posting about the destruction of Mars next on the Whistle blower thread of War in out Solar System. Our astronomers saw, but couldn't understand what they were looking at.

[Shechaiyah]

Originally Posted by Norval

Heads up, we will be posting about the destruction of Mars next on the Whistle blower thread of War in out Solar System. Our astronomers saw, but couldn't understand what they were looking at.

Uhm.

It hasn't stopped you know.

You know? I got photos, war games, encampments and battles. Right off the NASA database; photoshopped, of course.


Shech.