New Avalon video: Jane Burgermeister update - Whatever happened to the Swine Flu?

[Linda]

Yes, it is always unpleasant, but necessary to help others wake up and stop following the group think.

[gita]

I’m not sure what to believe either way but the organisers of Alternative View 4 which is ‘UK’s biggest truth event/conference’ decided to drop her as one of their speakers as she refused to provide the necessary documents to back up her claims. The requests were by other speakers but no names were mentioned. This was announced on live TV show called Edge Media by one of the organisers called Ian R Crane who himself is now accused of selling dodgy dvds! All this infighting!! The plot thickens!

[Linda]

Originally Posted by gita

I’m not sure what to believe either way but the organisers of Alternative View 4 which is ‘UK’s biggest truth event/conference’ decided to drop her as one of their speakers as she refused to provide the necessary documents to back up her claims.
The requests were by other speakers but no names were mentioned. This was announced on live TV show called Edge Media by one of the organisers called Ian R Crane who himself is now accused of selling dodgy dvds!
All this infighting!! The plot thickens!

When did this happen?

[gita]

Originally Posted by Linda

When did this happen?

Two thursdays ago on Live Tv. The same show also had Jane on last year.

[Bill Ryan]

Originally Posted by gita

I’m not sure what to believe either way but the organisers of Alternative View 4 which is ‘UK’s biggest truth event/conference’ decided to drop her as one of their speakers as she refused to provide the necessary documents to back up her claims.

Not so. Jane told me about this when I met her.

She was appalled that Ian Crane had unilaterally dropped her BEFORE asking her for any documentation.

She immediately offered to send documentation to prove her bona fides, but Ian Crane had already made up his mind - apparently influenced by persons unknown. Jane was extremely disappointed.

It looks like someone out there is still trying to turn this around to make Jane look bad. (Why would they do that?)

The documentation is here ... as I posted earlier. Please read it. And do also read what I wrote before risking hurting someone with inaccurate information.

Seashore, I'm familiar with the e-mail exchange between True Ott and Jane... it was copied to me months ago. I have the entire thing.

I can't and won't post it, for obvious reasons, but let me just say that I was pretty amazed with the way True Ott rounded on Jane and attacked her in that exchange - which he has continued to do publicly. I have not been able to explain the way he has handled himself.

It's worth asking why one member of the truth movement would spend SO much time attacking another, when they stand for the same cause. Seashore, you are not doing anyone a service (least of all yourself) by perpetuating this negative energy. Please stop it.

If you really want to find out more, rather than parroting someone else's attacks, WATCH THE TWO VIDEOS FROM BEGINNING TO END (have you done this?) - or, better still, take steps to meet Jane personally and make up your own mind.

It's too easy to cast judgment on another human being from one's own armchair, relying only on 'internet research'. There's WAY to much of that around.

That was my beef against Clif High, and it's also my beef against True Ott. This is why Kerry and I made all our videos: to provide the best possible substitute for meeting someone in person and getting to know them.

With best wishes, Bill

[Majorion]

Personally, I find Jane credible, and I was more than satisfied with the documentation.

The way I see it, is you have the anti-vaccine crowd and the pro-vaccine crowd. I can't understand - for the life of me - why anyone would promote a government vaccine or encourage others to take it, or worse yet; attack others who speak against it.

Anyone who takes a look at that old 70's American government swine flu commercial, urging people to take vaccines, and here we are same fear mongering in the 21st century, is monumental evidence of an agenda taking place, obviously the big pharmaceutical companies are involved (and who controls them by the way?) I think its safe to - at least - say that this "vaccine" is potentially dangerous and people should be well aware of this. Jane has been attacked by more than one person, which makes you wonder what "those" peoples' agendas really are.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Bill Ryan

...True Ott ...

Dr A True Ott is a dedicated and thorough researcher and servant for the public good.

[Dougall]

OK first off let me say I am here primarily for entertainment. I am certainly no expert and I watch the videos and read some of PA because I find it fascinating.
Also I am sort of a passive listener and usually pull up another page and play chess while I listen. It helps my game!

Having said that I will now say it strikes me that Jane's detractors sort of strengthen her case. The fact that someone wants to discredit her makes the whole thing stand up if you ask me. Dr Ott's point of view also provides back story and time line.

It seems to me that Jane may have wanted to break the story sooner than her associates and so began the rift. I tend not to think every other person is a dis info agent, however as I said I am no expert.

One thing for certain She is a beautiful woman (so easy on the eyes) and Bill has made some very good interviews with her. What more can you ask for?

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by amate

There is another brave woman in the US wo looks after our health.
You should read and watch her !!

Rima E Laibow MD , Medical Director of the Natural Solutions Foundation . www.Global Health Freedom
http://www.healthfreedomusa.org/?p=4478

There is another side to this story, as well: "Laibow's Lackeys - The Truth Behind Rima Laibow MD and her Colleagues (Parting the Curtains of the 'Natural Solutions Foundation')." by Dr A True Ott .

[amate]

Originally Posted by Seashore

There is another side to this story, as well: "Laibow's Lackeys - The Truth Behind Rima Laibow MD and her Colleagues (Parting the Curtains of the 'Natural Solutions Foundation')." by Dr A True Ott [/url].

Oeps.........this is getting interesting
Thanks, I will see into this

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by amate

Oeps.........this is getting interesting
Thanks, I will see into this

And thank you for your courteous response.

[aroundthetable]

Great follow up both video and audio, thanks Bill and to all who took flak trying to spread the info.

[burgundia]

Originally Posted by mu2143

So if I just focus my consciousness hard enough, then you cease to exist??

Your not your real ,Your not your real ,Your not your real ?

maybe he will cease to exist for you..why don't you try...

[Christo888]

Originally Posted by 777 The Great Work

Whatever you focus your attention on, is what you become conscious of.
There is no swine flu.

And ultimately what will manifest!


Someday the Omniscience, Omnipotence, and Omnipresence of that statement will ring through all creation.



Have a nice day!

[Seashore]

There is another side to this story.

[Dougall]

Originally Posted by Seashore

There is another side to this story.

That first link was very informative Seashore!