PROJECT AVALON -- free speech? Domain name transfer

[Argante]

I wonder what loyal Mod will be sacrificed this time to appease the B&K Gods?

Who will be the scapegoat this time so B&K can walk around unstained from their sins?

How many lies will they tell and retell to defend their morality?

B&K stand on a pile of mods and members who have put their hearts and souls into Avalon... only to be sacrificed to the greater good of "Avalon" in order to cover up the greed and pettiness of B&K.

This is no more than a public domestic situation. The kids (members) are being split up amongst the parents. The property is being distributed equally, each one trying to destroy the most loved aspects of the other.

"Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned / Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned." "The Mourning Bride" (1697) by William Congreve.

[Harry_CDN]

Hi,

I just read this post from Kerry and understand some of her points.

1. Where ever you host, they have Terms of Agreements to follow
2. If some person writes in stating a site is violating some legal law with correct proof then the hosting company must take action.
3. People love to threaten online sites. If you can avoid it then stay out of the arena.
4. The bigger you are the more of a target you become.

[seeingterra]

Originally Posted by Argante

I wonder what loyal Mod will be sacrificed this time to appease the B&K Gods?

Who will be the scapegoat this time so B&K can walk around unstained from their sins?

How many lies will they tell and retell to defend their morality?

B&K stand on a pile of mods and members who have put their hearts and souls into Avalon... only to be sacrificed to the greater good of "Avalon" in order to cover up the greed and pettiness of B&K.

This is no more than a public domestic situation. The kids (members) are being split up amongst the parents. The property is being distributed equally, each one trying to destroy the most loved aspects of the other.

"Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned / Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned." "The Mourning Bride" (1697) by William Congreve.

Sorry, but it doesn't even seem like you read the post. This has nothing to do with "sacrificing" mods, this is a conflict between the respective founders of the projects that happen to affect members but mostly it affects their stance towards whistle-blowers and other individuals within the PC network.

I see no signs for a reason to remove any mod's. That is absurd and not the issue.

But "control of information" debate is a serious topic, and it should be discussed. No one has the right to take on a "mentor" role or guide peoples perception of the 'truth', not mod's, not Bill and not Kerry. You read what you feel drawn to, and you make up your own mind.
Thuban as well.

If someone is proclaiming ritual abuse or something of that like, that is not Ok, but then you don't swing freedom of information, you swing common sense.

So the "do you have children?" metaphor won't work, no-one should take upon them self to "guide" anyone here unless they ask, not anyone.

This is not church.

Thank you for your time,

Tommy

[Tango]

What is needed is a cooling period... (collect your thoughts)...

After, a time, a sort of pretrial conference... NOT A TANTRUM !!!


Shutting down the forum was a TANTRUM....


Adults learn to Talk...



Trooly,

Tango



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[EYES WIDE OPEN]

Having read Bills points in the chatroom, (which still need to be verified - maybe a video ofBbill confirming he typed all that stuff) I think kerrys statement is weak. That is all.

[Gnosis5]

Originally Posted by EYES WIDE OPEN

Having read Bills points in the chatroom, (which still need to be verified - maybe a video ofBbill confirming he typed all that stuff) I think kerrys statement is weak. That is all.

Wish they knew about the "Charged Terminal Rundown". It puts an end to win/lose games between people.

[777 The Great Work]

What you and Bill do is your bizness, and no one else's. There is nothing hidden that will not be revealed. We came here alone and naked , and thats the way we will leave, but this time unashamed.

[Humble Janitor]

Originally Posted by 777 The Great Work

What you and Bill do is your bizness, and no one else's. There is nothing hidden that will not be revealed. We came here alone and naked , and thats the way we will leave, but this time unashamed.

BINGO!

This whole conflict just seems childish and silly in my eyes and it serves as a distraction from issues such as the current earth changes (quake in Chile) and so forth. The PTW get what they want when we become distracted.

[Céline]

A call for focus..

thank you HJ and all..

[tpmputterman]

Why are Bill and Kerry fighting they should no better than that.

With all I have learned from them and others it seems as they are going against all they have been teaching.

Is it me or does the TV show seem weird.
They have gave up a lot of time and money to do what they have done and
I am so grateful, but it seems as if their moods are changing to the ego side?

Wish them well they are great brave people and hope they can work out whatever they are fighting about. Just does not seem right coming from people like them that know better.

[Myplanet2]

Originally Posted by Humble Janitor

BINGO!

This whole conflict just seems childish and silly in my eyes and it serves as a distraction from issues such as the current earth changes (quake in Chile) and so forth. The PTW get what they want when we become distracted.

Not at all Humble Janitor. As we work through our issues, we deal the PTW the greatest blow we can, because they depend utterly on our remaining befuddled in our confusions. We're sorting. And the Universe is pushing the process. Let's not take hasty steps that interfere with our individual and collective corrective actions and healing processes.

We are on the right track, even when the fan gets splattered

[Kulapops]

I completely agree. (with 777)

I have nothing but gratitude to Bill and Kerry for creating this site and this space for us. All their hard work.

Even with the familiarity of knowing who they are or might be from reading their words and seeing their videos, I do not for one minute believe that I own a piece of them.. nor of the piece that says 'they are BIll and Kerry'... they can be whom they choose to be, together or separate, one forum or two.

Would we put such restrictions on ourselves that we demand from them?

If either wanted to work in Macdonalds as of tomorrow, that would be fine with me. Whatever further insights or words they have to give is also up to them. As it is for anyone else on this forum.

I am glad that you have written something about the matter Kerry, and Bill has too. So we are not wondering about what may be.

This is a kindness from you both.

We must all find our own way in this world. We cannot find it through the lives of others, though we see our own reflections in them.

Peace and love to all of you,

K

[777 The Great Work]

When i was a child , i spoke and acted like a child. I will never take sides, but only seek truth. Taking sides is the goal of the NWO.
There are no sides to take.

[mudra]

Be Love Bill and Kerry as this will make you One.
The love flow is the stargate to the new universe .
Dichotomies we must leave behind . They are the very
stuff this old world is made .

I trust you'll find a way to unity and harmony even if on different journeys.

I Love You both
mudra

[TheChosen]

Almost noone seems to choose to rise above the drama.. as the agents of the Matrix best said it: 'only human'

The worst thing about it is that it is about a pretty much non-issue.. the thuban nonsense full of fantasy mixed with fiction thread and the heather 'made up in a teenage basement' material..

We say we want the system down.. but do we have an alternative to replace it? How can we ever hope to organise and collaborate with 6 billion people when even 2 people can't govern a simple online forum without going into a full out war with supporters on both sides.. but then again, as Ra put it .. the vast majority will repeat third density.. and for a good reason imho

[Magamud]

“Confusion heard his voice, and wild uproar Stood ruled, stood vast infinitude confined; Till at his second bidding darkness fled, Light shone, and order from disorder sprung.”

John Milton

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

i like them both for different reasons i hope that they do what they posted on camelot where they both present different material from their own perspectives under the same umbrella of camelot.. seperation of space is needed for both to investigate their own avenues more fully.

again at first a got lost in the info then went further into my learning process and discernement. i took the information and added bis together , getting a sense of the overall picture and what is going on to some degree on earth behind the scenes. i dont take anyones information as gospel. i do think lots of the information is valid in a general sense as its touted around on many other forums and from many other sources. sometimes the minutae of things and drilling too deep into the rabbit holes can get you into trouble . its all conjecture , 3rd hand (testimony?) and supposition.

[Zeddo]

Originally Posted by TheChosen

How can we ever hope to organise and collaborate with 6 billion people when even 2 people can't govern a simple online forum without going into a full out war with supporters on both sides.. but then again, as Ra put it .. the vast majority will repeat third density.. and for a good reason imho

this is what worries me the most, we cannot organise a tea-party for 2 and we want to save the world? So sad, so sad.

[greybeard]

Originally Posted by Zeddo

this is what worries me the most, we cannot organise a tea-party for 2 and we want to save the world? So sad, so sad.

You might find it interesting to visit "the ego what is it thread? how to transcend."

Ego is the only cause of disagreement, war etc.

Healthy self esteem is earned and different.

Regards to all who are concerned.
Chris

[Moxie]

Mercuriel, your post #54 spoke my sentiments exactly! I don't usually pipe in to give a simple yay or nay to anyone... however your thoughtful words have me sending Big E-hug ! Kudos!!!

[monique]

Kerry, excuse me when I say in this thread that not exist a neutral investor- I was angry about your decision to make you work whitout Bill, I hope you find neutrals investors for you excellent job. Monique.

[NeedForSpeed]

Was Project Camelot notified about copyright infringement? Doesn't the use of that music configure "fair use" since it is a news/commentary video?

I think the rush to take the video down only served to give people suspicions about the intent behind it.

Even if it was only to make sure, why not edit the video first and then reupload it without making it unavailable for the public?

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

has anyone thought also that tptb are not too concerned about camelot avalon anyway. i mean most of the info protects itself due its outlandish nature. like david wilcock said and bill too i beleive if you throw in some insanely wild stuff you kind of discredit yourself a bit anyway . new people will dismiss and then come round to whats going on in their own time. the gen public dont want to beleive in stuff anyway and the few researchers understand the game being played.

however too much outlandish stuff starts to make you look like sorcha faal or any other tainted internet site that spouts bs. camelot/avalon must get back to its roots with creible info with a bit of wild specualtion on the side.

its amusing that patrick geryl is one of the most credible witnesses even though his well thought out theory is shocking, that was oine of camelots better descisions to post that vid.klaus dona was also good.

too much channeling and not enough hard info to match it is whats been happening.

[Pinkfrost]

haven't been here in a while, although i do not understand the nuts and bolts of the argument, i do feel i understand the current that is sweeping them up. there is miscommunication everywhere, on every level, shall we say the storm before the calm?

i have wondered for a while how kerry and bill have been able to stay so focused without a public battle. their skills are so wide, and backgrounds so different, anyone in a close relationship will have troubles eventually. i doubt there will be a "winner" as such, but maybe a few scars are needed for the next step to build a new level to their strong foundation.

i have faith this is just a ripple, and not a tsunami.

[Tali]

You-Tube would not have close your channel for this Kerry, the most they would have done, would have been to mute the video containing the property.
Only then after if you continued to use copyrighted materials then your channel would have been suspended pending an investigation into the materials.

You-Tube instigates the three strike rule, and gives you clear markers on how your standing is with the copyrighting community. most people have soundtracks that have been muted due to this.

Tali Vas Anonymous, Specane crew 359