New Zealand

[IndigoPhoenix]

i was wondering if anybody could help me with this situation, my girlfriend and i are trying to make it down to NZ before everything comes undone...im concerned about how to get in to NZ with out having any kind of visa..we want to fly under the radar of the government so that we can at least head for the mountains in the south island and hide...please help i feel like we r running out of time and we need as much info and help as possible. blessings

[Racsouran]

hi from the opposite part of earth (just the vertical opposite), is awesome in some sense to see so much people from so much different places of the globe.

[Wholeness_Navigator]

Originally Posted by IndigoPhoenix

i was wondering if anybody could help me with this situation, my girlfriend and i are trying to make it down to NZ before everything comes undone...im concerned about how to get in to NZ with out having any kind of visa..we want to fly under the radar of the government so that we can at least head for the mountains in the south island and hide...please help i feel like we r running out of time and we need as much info and help as possible. blessings

If I were in your shoes I would simply come over here on "holiday" and have a good look around where you want to live and look for temp/perment work. My suggestion would be somewhere around the top of the South Island (Nelson area) elevated , near water but still near other people. Being near people/commuinty gives you the opportunty to barther rather than bury your head in the sand.

Remenber to just go with the flow and hold your intention in mind, when you work with cosmic law you will be surprised how easy it is to manifest your life.

welcome to the winning side!!

[IndigoPhoenix]

how should i arrange that? do i j/ show up w/ my g/f and say, we r on holiday..or something..what r the legalities behind that..given the circumstances, dealing w/ immigration officials and the like is the last thing i wanna do (due to resources and time)...sure i gotta deal w/ them when i get in to NZ but maybe they require some visa to even enter the country...

[Optix]

Hello Everyone, anyone out there who has been paying attention should be aware that things are starting to fall apart overseas and it might be time to start putting out heads together to find out where the safest places are for us in this country in both the north and south islands, obviously avoiding largely populated and low lying areas. Im situated in upper northland, close to our kauri forests. Any suggestions people???

[Peter]

As the Maori's say the fish (north island) is going to disappear so get on the canoe (south island), we're on the feral West Coast, so come on down.

Hi fellow Kiwi! I'm in Auckland too.

For those thinking of coming to these parts you might consider that the north island is basically giant volcano and the south island has a giant fault line running down the middle... Oz is probably a safer bet. Having said that I'm not going anywhere. I would tend to agree with Peter the south island maybe safer due to the lack of volcanoes (tho there are old ones there, especially near Dunedin). I think the high ground in Northland maybe the best bet in the Nth Is as there are literally volcano's everywhere else (Taupo alone could take out most of the island). Any other suggestions?? So lets hope that the Earth doesn't do anything too drastic in the next few years...

I believe that orgonite can sooth the Earth so I've started to gift the Auckland volcano's (there's at least 50) and will do Rotorua/Taupo as soon as I'm able.

[IRKCOD]

Hi, We are North Shore based. One of the biggest problems with the Auckland area would be the number of dormant volcanoes in the area, Another is having the Pacific Ocean and the Tasman Sea on either side of the city should there be a major tsunami. Had wondered about the Motu area between Opotoki and Gisborne on the East Coast?

[Optix]

Originally Posted by Peter

As the Maori's say the fish (north island) is going to disappear so get on the canoe (south island), we're on the feral West Coast, so come on down.

.....Yo, do u have any references to go on as to what the maori's have said in their stories of past and future?

And to anyone else who might know, does anyone have information on Maori stories and predictions, we know several indiginous cultures have their own beliefs but somehow they link together, eg, mayan calendar and the i ching both reach that crazy 2012 date we all know and love... going by terence mckennas calculations anyway.

[Peter]

Hello Optix, I found this http://snoedel.punt.nl/index.php?r=1...&tbl_archief=1
talking about the end time, it doesn't seem to be that bleak for us in upside down land.

[Optix]

Hey Peter,
Great, thanks for the link, i have heard the same interpretation of that before that the veil will fall, but i think the general meaning was that the veil of secrecy will fall, whateva way u look at it, its still soundin good. have to see how this little island holds up tho. anyway theres an interview with the maori queen on www.consciousmedianetwork.com for free viewing if ur interested. starts a bit boring but showed me the maori are more spiritual than i realised.

Originally Posted by IndigoPhoenix

how should i arrange that? do i j/ show up w/ my g/f and say, we r on holiday..or something..what r the legalities behind that..given the circumstances, dealing w/ immigration officials and the like is the last thing i wanna do (due to resources and time)...sure i gotta deal w/ them when i get in to NZ but maybe they require some visa to even enter the country...

Hi, I hope this info helps you and other like minded people:
1. NZ is desperate for workers, so any nurses, computer people, even hair-dressers & their spouses & kids should get visas (if you don't have a criminal record, etc.). Check the list of required skills at NZ immigration website.
2. Become a student in NZ - find a cheap course (probably teaching english language is cheapest) and get a 1 year student visa. 1st semester starts around end of Feb, so get cracking now to get into 2009 Uni.
3. US visa waiver programme - 3 month tourist visa for All Americans(without criminal record, etc.). Use this if the red list people start getting picked up, or some other event tells you theres no time left.
4. Use immigration specialist for help if you can afford around $5000 fee. I guess it will be hard to find a good consultant, shop around.
5. NZ & AUS aren't tough with applying their laws - they don't bother to jail overstayers, etc. They just send you home - a process you can stall for 1-2 years. You will have to research all technicalities yourself. Don't do this ->

Warning: NZ wages & jobs are terrible - I couldn't find a rental house in the whole of the North Island for less than $185/w (even in dead towns). Parts of Wellington are the same price! Also, look up Pacific ring of fire & see how many fault lines are in the North Island, before locating anywhere. I personally think Australia is safer & the pay for workers is much better. I'm in Melbourne now, but I feel the need to leave as its on the coast, so I'm looking for somewhere inland like Canberra. Anyone feel free to PM me with q's.