David Icke on 'Is Alex Jones a Fearmonger'

[synchronistic9]

Alex Jones is good for those who need to be shouted at to wake up. That being said, for those who are allready woke up, why the shouting man, i don't need to hear that anymore therefore i don't listen to him anymore. Also he is very rude and cuts people off to preach his agenda and he doesnt discuss certain things such as the vatican conspiracy as layed out by eric jon phelps. He wont debate it either, he just acts like he knows it all and doesnt want someone trumping his limelight. I've noticed with these type personalities that they love to be in control of the info being the one diseminating it to the so called ignorant, but when someone else tries to bring new info to him, he filters it through his own flawed reasoning to suit his agenda and any info he doesnt like is discarded even if it is well backed up. It comes down to an open mind of which he doesnt have in my opinion and when you close yourself off too much you build a wall around you. And look at his behaviour at the gun rally in austin,Tx recently. If you havent seen it, it is all over youtube. He shouts with his bullhorn over speakers who are pro-gun like he owns the place and tells a lady "youve got a hard-on for me", and tells her to get out of his face cause he has freedom of speech. Oh the arrogance. He is a disgrace in my opinion!

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by synchronistic9

Also he is very rude and cuts people off to preach his agenda and he doesnt discuss certain things such as the vatican conspiracy as layed out by eric jon phelps.

Eric Jon Phelps is a racist, a sexist, and thinks the sun revolves around the earth.

[Majorion]

If you Google search: Alex Jones Zionist
You get 171,000 results.

Now that's a lot of dirt on just one guy. And its very specific information, I worry that this may be true, because although much information discussed by AJ is correct, he has a broad reach and if these allegations are true then we must find out one way or the other and ascertain the motives.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Majorion

If you Google search: Alex Jones Zionist
You get 242,000 results.

Now that's a lot of dirt on just one guy. And its very specific information, I worry that this may be true, because although much information discussed by AJ is correct, he has a broad reach and if these allegations are true then we must find out one way or the other and ascertain the motives.

Which article do you propose is worth paying attention to because you've read it and you believe it to be true?

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by Seashore

Which article do you propose is worth paying attention to because you've read it and you believe it to be true?

On the very first article here: http://www.opposingdigits.com/alex/

There is a ton of information on that page, that by and large demonstrates these allegations true.

[synchronistic9]

yes sheashore I have also listened to freemans interview with eric jon phelps and to say sun revolves around sun is odd but the man interviewing him believes Obama is a cloned replica of akenahaten.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by synchronistic9

yes sheashore I have also listened to freemans interview with eric jon phelps and to say sun revolves around sun is odd

You mean to say sun revolves around earth...

Originally Posted by synchronistic9

but the man interviewing him believes Obama is a cloned replica of akenahaten.

Yeah, I know. There is very advanced technology that we all need to research. And we all need to observe and connect dots.

I find Freeman to be very credible, as I do Alex Jones.

[synchronistic9]

so your gonna take what freeman says about obama being cloned without proof and not question the sanity of it yet discrediting eric jon phelps for saying as equal an insane thing and saying alex jones is credible , have you seen the videos of him at the gun rally acting like a maniac? oh yea thats credible to me! LOL! he also bought a house worth $726,000. I guess all that credibility making him rich!

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by synchronistic9

so your gonna take what freeman says about obama being cloned without proof and not question the sanity of it yet discrediting eric jon phelps for saying as equal an insane thing

I disagree that the two assertions are parallel.

Originally Posted by synchronistic9

have you seen the videos of him at the gun rally acting like a maniac?

No. I'm not interested.

Originally Posted by synchronistic9

! he also bought a house worth $726,000.

This is irrelvant.

Maybe if he bought a $2,000,000 home I might want to do some checking...

I have been listening to Alex Jones for four years. He actually reads legislation and United Nations documents. He reads books. He talks to the police and other contacts. He connects dots. He sees below the surface. He knows what he's talking about. He's the spearhead of the movement to push back the New World Order agenda, as far as I'm concerned.

[synchronistic9]

no your not interested? So if alex does step out of line or acts like a maniac, its hear no evil see no evil, if i dont see it it doesnt exist stance? No one is free from criticism! check out your hero in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT7BW2CaPUw

[synchronistic9]

Eric Jon Phelps exposes Jesuit-CIA Alex Jones 8/15/07 C&D1/3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDUMp0OniVI

[mu2143]

Quote:
Originally Posted by mu2143 View Post
Sorry I dis agree, because love is using your own power to create without controlling others.(Co-creating)

Fear is a state when your using your power of deception to control others!!
(Destruction)
Don't need to discuss what love and fear is. You should know this already!!!!
Does that mean you won't be participating in you new thread?

http://www.projectavalon.net/forum/s...ad.php?t=20075

I kind of hoped you would.

Why? I already know what right and whats wrong by hart.
and I stated the difference between fear and love it is simple

Another one for fear is when your have no wisdom and no knowledge then you can be controlled

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by synchronistic9

no your not interested? So if alex does step out of line or acts like a maniac, its hear no evil see no evil, if i dont see it it doesnt exist stance? No one is free from criticism! check out your hero in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT7BW2CaPUw

I might at some point. But not because you're commanding that I do so.

I will spend my time watching videos that I think are of value.

There is a huge amount of stuff out there. I am selective about how I spend my time.

Also, this thread is taking on a nasty tone. It's probably not going to be worth much more of my time.

[Majorion]

Originally Posted by Seashore

He's the spearhead of the movement to push back the New World Order agenda, as far as I'm concerned.

Seashore, I think this is the single most important point you bring up about Alex Jones. The New World Order. What if you found out all these conspiracy theories pinning everything on NWO were actually a clever ruise to cover for the real bad guys. And as you say; Alex Jones is the spearhead to 'push' (or push back) the New World Order agenda.

Fact is the world is far too tumultous and divided and so many wars and conflicts still going on, the idea that true globalization or a one world government is anywhere near our timeframe is absurd and a deliberate ghost chase for the alternative community. So here we have a conspiracy theory that isn't much of a conspiracy, the fact that a one world government will someday happen; nobody is even denying. So why is Alex Jones promoting this NWO nonsense, especially since hes a major source of influence within the truth communities, his opinions carry weight, its obvious.

Now there are two explanations for this; either he's an accomplice deliberately pushing this train of thought, or, the possibility I find more likely, is that he's been compromised or silenced by these same people, and hence not an agent, but nevertheless compromised.

The group I am positing here that are silencing Alex Jones or all together him being an accomplice: The Anti-Defamation League.

Conversely, there are sources outright confirming his promotion by the ADL.

On a side note, I fully understand and appreciate the fact there are many people who are constantly discredited within these fields, however all the evidence clearly points to foul play here and it cannot be brushed away or denied, it must be confronted if its true, not buried, and it is extremely unlikely that its not true.

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by Majorion

Fact is the world is far too tumultous and divided and so many wars and conflicts still going on, the idea that true globalization or a one world government is anywhere near our timeframe is absurd and a deliberate ghost chase for the alternative community.

You're making a proclamation here which is your opinion, but I simply disagree. It's a broad statement. It would be better if you would narrow your focus for the purpose of discussion.

Originally Posted by Majorion

The group I am positing here that are silencing Alex Jones or all together him being an accomplice: The Anti-Defamation League.

Conversely, there are sources outright confirming his promotion by the ADL.

People talk about the fact that Alex Jones' wife is Jewish and that he does not talk about Zionism and he does not talk about the Vatican.

I am of the opinion that Alex's focus is on international bankers who are pulling the strings behind the scene, and that this is what is important to emphasize.

It is the bankers, who is working for them, and how they go about fooling the public that we should be focusing on. I think he has his eye on the ball.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

quoteing myplanet


Personally, I went through the whole cycle of "religiously" following several dozen "alt news" sites, like Jones, Icke, Rense, Quayle, and many other "watchers and reporters". Until I realized that I was unknowingly chasing my own fears around. And that's not bad at all, because having exposed myself, I was able to locate within myself what that outside fear was mirroring inside of myself, and I was able to clear it out.

THEN I was able to open my eyes and really see the bigger picture.

I recognize where you are at, because I went through the same thing myself. Accusing people of being blind or afraid of looking at the truth. Until I realized how presumptuous that was of me, and how none of the nonsense I was afraid of and trying to convince others they should also be afraid of, ever came to pass. Remember all that hype about the fema trains. OOOOOH, they're lined up right outside my town. I can see them when I climb up this high tree. Run for the hills. It's GOING ON RIGHT NOW RIGHT UNDER OUR NOSES AND YOU PEOPLE ARE SLEEPING THROUGH IT. DON"T BLAME ME WHEN YOUR DOOR COMES CRASHING IN AT 3:00 AM AND YOU ARE HAULED AWAY TO THE CAMPS FOR YOUR RE-EDUCATION!!!!!!!


this is just about right for me to.. we are all at different stages of the initiation process as a human race..

alex jones is cool to get people slapped out of their slumber then you move on.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

i dont listen to alex jones anymore,the final straw was after watching the texas gun rally debacle and his true colors came out. i never listened to him much anyway. i listen to rense now and again depending on the guests. mostly you realise its just hearsay and rumour. we know the general gist of whats going on. details are just to throw us off and keep us chasing our tails.

alex jones alive....
bill cooper dead......

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by pineal-pilot-in merkabah

bill cooper dead......

I listened to a recording of him going on and on about Alex Jones being a liar. His tone was such that I did not find him to be credible.

[pineal-pilot-in merkabah]

Originally Posted by Seashore

I listened to a recording of him going on and on about Alex Jones being a liar. His tone was such that I did not find him to be credible.

im more thinking of alex saying that bill cooper was rude and disrispectful on his show before 9/11 . he clearly wasnt. anyway the world doesnt revolve around what alex jones ect says. i dont really care anymore what they come out with. 4hrs radio a day and lots of websites, hes got to keep the ball rolling for as long as he can so hes got tp put alot of filler out there. he prob makes a tidy living of it. gl to him. ive moved on.

[Fredkc]

My apologees.

Fred

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[Zenbuoy]

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Fred, Fred..., Fred.
When will we learn?

[dddanieljjjamesss]

MU and MYPLANET

i think you guys are suffering from a barrier in understanding

you guys are both on the same page... just believe different things will come to pass


no one is trying to control...

and mu I think what MP is saying is not one of ignorance... everyones reality is different... the only source of truth is INSIDE... can't be proven by outside "facts" such as those presented by jones and icke etc.

we are all moving through sections of possibility, and things will always change relative to the individual

[Seashore]

Originally Posted by pineal-pilot-in merkabah

alex jones is cool to get people slapped out of their slumber

In my opinion, the world needs Alex Jones to keep doing this. He is the most knowledgeable spokesperson and brings on the best guests to educate the public: Webster Tarpley, Max Keiser, Paul Craig Roberts, John Perkins, Wayne Madsen, Bob Chapman...

[aroundthetable]

Originally Posted by synchronistic9

no your not interested? So if alex does step out of line or acts like a maniac, its hear no evil see no evil, if i dont see it it doesnt exist stance? No one is free from criticism! check out your hero in action: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT7BW2CaPUw

Please leave the ranting to the experts.