Fairy tales Vs Reality

[mu2143]

The problem with most people here is when they want to create there own reality they forget that there is another 6 a 7 billion people who do they same.
How many of does people are awake???

And in there belief system they think there not effected. You can be a loving caring spiritual person in this reality, but you still can be killed.

Most people indeed want to be suger coated, because it is not negitive. This places many of to so called awake in another sleep or say I sheep state.

Newage religion cause people not to listen to so called "fearmongeres" or truth speakers, because there spirit are in a state of fear. Not dealing with this problem will effect the person.

If you do not face your own dark self then you will be push in to it!!!

Remember this is a time where people go nuts, where some people become very spiritual and others go very dark!!!
because of there past lives that has not been fixed. This will happen when you keep delaying from confronting your own fears

[beren]

Originally Posted by mu2143

The problem with most people here is when they want to create there own reality they forget that there is another 6 a 7 billion people who do they same.
How many of does people are awake???

And in there belief system they think there not effected. You can be a loving caring spiritual person in this reality, but you still can be killed.

Most people indeed want to be suger coated, because it is not negitive. This places many of to so called awake in another sleep or say I sheep state.

Newage religion cause people not to listen to so called "fearmongeres" or truth speakers, because there spirit are in a state of fear. Not dealing with this problem will effect the person.

If you do not face your own dark self then you will be push in to it!!!

That`s why I placed that Post Scriptum below the initial thread.
Sometimes I think that all those adult cartoons such as Simpsons,Family Guy ,South Park are deadly right about what actually and whom many people are on this planet.

[Stardustaquarion]

Originally Posted by mu2143

The problem with most people here is when they want to create there own reality they forget that there is another 6 a 7 billion people who do they same.
How many of does people are awake???

And in there belief system they think there not effected. You can be a loving caring spiritual person in this reality, but you still can be killed.

Most people indeed want to be suger coated, because it is not negitive. This places many of to so called awake in another sleep or say I sheep state.

Newage religion cause people not to listen to so called "fearmongeres" or truth speakers, because there spirit are in a state of fear. Not dealing with this problem will effect the person.

If you do not face your own dark self then you will be push in to it!!!

Remember this is a time where people go nuts, where some people become very spiritual and others go very dark!!!
because of there past lives that has not been fixed. This will happen when you keep delaying from confronting your own fears

I don't think is about escapism, I am quite aware of what is happening in the world, the key is the point of view. Imagine for a moment that you are looking at the universe not at your inmediate reality

Also, when we are eternal what is there to worry about? one life time? Even if there is only one life time (which I know is not the case cos other lives memory) there is no point in worry

We worry because we think we are failing somehow, yet we only fail in our minds because even if we are judged, the only one that can punish oneself is oneself and think we are less than is one self

Perspective is a interesting thing

The other thing I am aware of is that there is free will and one can not change or teach anything to anyone. When we stop trying to change things outside we can concetrate in becoming whole inside which is the key of all transformation, growth, love, joy etc

Self love, self resposibility can change the world like nothing else
Love

[Stargazer1965]

Originally Posted by mu2143

The problem with most people here is when they want to create there own reality they forget that there is another 6 a 7 billion people who do they same.
How many of does people are awake???

And in there belief system they think there not effected. You can be a loving caring spiritual person in this reality, but you still can be killed.

Most people indeed want to be suger coated, because it is not negitive. This places many of to so called awake in another sleep or say I sheep state.

Newage religion cause people not to listen to so called "fearmongeres" or truth speakers, because there spirit are in a state of fear. Not dealing with this problem will effect the person.

If you do not face your own dark self then you will be push in to it!!!

Remember this is a time where people go nuts, where some people become very spiritual and others go very dark!!!
because of there past lives that has not been fixed. This will happen when you keep delaying from confronting your own fears

You know I was just thinking about this yesterday......

I am a monster

I am a Holy man

I am a father

I am a leader

I am a destroyer

I am a builder

I am not much unlike the PTB....but in the end if they came to me and said...

SG for your obedience ...these riches.....houses...yachts....fame

All yours

And I would say no

Not because I am GOOD


because they are amateurs.....

Peace

[mu2143]

Also, when we are eternal what is there to worry about? one life time? Even if there is only one life time (which I know is not the case cos other lives memory) there is no point in worry

Waste all that experience that you have to evolve and go true it again if this is what you want? Everyone has the changs to combine your character with your spirit becoming your new you and waste that?

In the days of Atlantis 12000 years ago we did not have enough people to go to next level, but a choice to do anoher 12000 years to get it right. Now we do not have the choice ether evolve or get aborted as hole.

I already made my choice not to repeat the game again,it gets boring!!

You know I was just thinking about this yesterday......

I am a monster

I am a Holy man

I am a father

I am a leader

I am a destroyer

I am a builder

I am not much unlike the PTB....but in the end if they came to me and said...

SG for your obedience ...these riches.....houses...yachts....fame

All yours

And I would say no

Not because I am GOOD


they are amateurs.....

Peace

Thats a good one!!! Spirit first technology as a need for spiritual growth

[Jacqui D]

Fairy tales/reality what is the truth?
For me both is real we create what we want we are after all consciousness we perceive what we wish.
We are only looking in on this reality so make of it what you will.
For me the world of fairy tales are reality it is played out in so many ways it is placed in to our children's fairy tales books a perception of reality be it some can distort a child's understanding but this is all an illusion so reality can be what you want it to be.

[beren]

I started this theme because I feel around me that people deliberately choose fairy tale life avoiding what IS (as Phtha said) .
We certainly choose our reality and we shape it daily but I also think that people wish to avoid looking in the mirror and see who they really are . They are afraid of themselves. So they jump from costume to costume eventually ending up playing characters and loosing themselves.

For example, with how many people anybody here, as a members of this forum , can actually talk about "non " common things such as spiritual world,ET`s,Universe,God,Technology ...

Not so many since after third sentence they will change subject and if you do insist on theme, they will label you as nuts...
Why?
Because they are afraid of what they might find behind the curtain of life.

Fear of the dark.......
So jump in the clown costume fella! Who cares about what IS...

[Stargazer1965]

That's it ...... You accept yourself as good....You are wrong

You accept yourself as bad....and you're wrong

It's the balance

The propensity to do great good and great evil

Do not impose your will on others....just yourself

Everything else is wasted

[beren]

That`s the beauty of free will which is in its best shape when it is used for good.
If you impose your will to do good ON yourself FIRST and ONLY ,then you` see miracles! People are drawn to other people who are radiating good vibes . If you ,by imposing on yourself, care about others, from a plant to a human being ,THEN you are becoming infectious to others ! They are infected with your goodness and love that you show and immediately subconsciously they want to behave like you.

It`s like when you frown ,people avoid you.
When you smile they are glued on you and smile and laugh with you.

[Phtha]

Good points Beren.
One can say that it's our 'free will' that enslaves us, or to put it another way, we enslave ourselves by using our own free will.
For after all, when you use your free will to 'always do whats right', and to do 'whats good' for the benefit of everything, not just ones self, which at times perhaps is not exactly what YOU or I wants to do... is that using free will? Or the will of God? Or following the Will of God?

It always feels the best in the end to follow Good and God, that's what I do know.

I also believe that imposing ones free will on another person, or violating another persons free will, is what starts that ancient wheel of Karma or Divine Providence to turn. And we will indeed reap what we sow.

Originally Posted by beren

That`s the beauty of free will which is in its best shape when it is used for good.
If you impose your will to do good ON yourself FIRST and ONLY ,then you` see miracles! People are drawn to other people who are radiating good vibes

[mudra]

Originally Posted by beren

I started this theme because I feel around me that people deliberately choose fairy tale life avoiding what IS (as Phtha said) .
We certainly choose our reality and we shape it daily but I also think that people wish to avoid looking in the mirror and see who they really are . They are afraid of themselves. So they jump from costume to costume eventually ending up playing characters and loosing themselves.
....
Because they are afraid of what they might find behind the curtain of life.

Fear of the dark.......
So jump in the clown costume fella! Who cares about what IS...

What is is too simple .. therefore we have to make it complicated ..



This is a good one

Love Always
mudra

[beren]

Mudra, that was a nice video.
You know it`s always like this; why simple when it may be complicated?

Truth is simple. Love is simple.
But there is a catch; no impure soul can comprehend it. It does not tolerate impurity.

Many things are hidden in plain sight because 99.999999% of people just do not ever think that it may be there right in front their noses.

SO in order to reach it, to see it you have to ask for it with pure heart and soul. Many need to take a journey to clear their souls and hearts before they can open their eyes to see that their goal or thing was right there.

The phrase that was written in the Bible that God is love ,is so simple.
That`s why many reject it. And also many find it true after a long time of wandering about.

[mudra]

Originally Posted by beren

SO in order to reach it, to see it you have to ask for it with pure heart and soul. Many need to take a journey to clear their souls and hearts before they can open their eyes to see that their goal or thing was right there.

The phrase that was written in the Bible that God is love ,is so simple.
That`s why many reject it. And also many find it true after a long time of wandering about.

Yes Beren.. it seems that us humans like to embark on a wild pilgrimage to arrive to that sacred center where we already are .
As litle children we are playing hide and seek...

Love for You
mudra

[beren]

Originally Posted by mudra

Yes Beren.. it seems that us humans like to embark on a wild pilgrimage to arrive to that sacred center where we already are .
As litle children we are playing hide and seek...

Love for You
mudra

...and some are lost deep down in the forest while playing...

[mudra]

Originally Posted by beren

...and some are lost deep down in the forest while playing...

Hmmm ..a litle ridle :
How can we get them out of the forest without infringing on their free will ?



Love Always
mudra

[beren]

Stargazer, it seems so. Many times I realized that.

[beren]

Originally Posted by mudra

Hmmm ..a litle ridle :
How can we get them out of the forest without infringing on their free will ?



Love Always
mudra

That is a tough task since we tend (even in our best intentions) to show somebody what to do.

I`d start with inspiring souls around me,then I`ll see where that leads. I think that building bridge of mutual confidence and trust is building block of other important stuff.

[mudra]

Originally Posted by beren

I`d start with inspiring souls around me,then I`ll see where that leads. I think that building bridge of mutual confidence and trust is building block of other important stuff.

Yes ...I believe this is what Love does .
There is nothing to do but being and expressing the Love we are made of.

Love for You
mudra

[beren]

Originally Posted by mudra

Yes ...I believe this is what Love does .
There is nothing to do but being and expressing the Love we are made of.

Love for You
mudra

True. Reminds me on another thing; many times I wondered what this could mean:
Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moth and rust destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moth and rust do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are good, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eyes are bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!



I understand now that we have first to see what we are made of ,in our core. One thing is sure ,you can`t help others if you don`t have means to help. You can`t feed the hungry if you don`t have food.
So ,I can`t help anybody if I FIRSTLY don`t have ,don`t experience,don`t nurture,don`t show-love.
People can feel without mistake if you`re worthy or not when landing helping hand. It`s that inner feeling we`re born with.

That`s why I always wish first to learn ,grow in love so I can really give others when needed.

[mudra]

Originally Posted by beren

That`s why I always wish first to learn ,grow in love so I can really give others when needed.

I think you are doing very well on that path

Love for You
mudra

[Phtha]

Indeed.
I'm waiting for the flood.

Originally Posted by mudra

Hmmm ..a litle ridle :
How can we get them out of the forest without infringing on their free will ?



Love Always
mudra

[haibane]

Hi Beren,
I personally don't thing there's anything wrong with fairy tales - if they're good, they're art. And we don't live in art either, we're inspired by it.

Just my 2 cents ... (^__^ )

[beren]

Originally Posted by haibane

Hi Beren,
I personally don't thing there's anything wrong with fairy tales - if they're good, they're art. And we don't live in art either, we're inspired by it.

Just my 2 cents ... (^__^ )

Don`t get me wrong, I like fairy tales. I`ve read many of them since I was a mere child. But I am talking here about fairy tales in this present time where people fall for them believing them as truth,without even checking the facts.

For example, there are so many threads and posts with channeling material... and people just get lured in... I try to understand that since we`re living hard time on this planet now and wherever you stumble on a positive post or thing you kinda embrace it swiftly. But adversary knowing that throws many lies ALONG positive things and ...we get hooked.

[haibane]

Originally Posted by beren

Don`t get me wrong, I like fairy tales. I`ve read many of them since I was a mere child. But I am talking here about fairy tales in this present time where people fall for them believing them as truth,without even checking the facts.

For example, there are so many threads and posts with channeling material... and people just get lured in... I try to understand that since we`re living hard time on this planet now and wherever you stumble on a positive post or thing you kinda embrace it swiftly. But adversary knowing that throws many lies ALONG positive things and ...we get hooked.

Right. Then you should also include the fairy tales presented by PR companies, film producers, psy-ops, etc. ... The world is full of them. For all I know some of the channellings might be real, I just have no means to determine which are BS or otherwise so I stuff myself with a pound of salt each time I read them or listen to them. But yes, I agree, a frighteningly high number of people here (out of all places ;-) seem to happily take them intravenously without a blink of an eye. It's a sad world (until you look at the bright side that is ;-)))

[Stargazer1965]

Many times I realize that my parents....my teachers....my books....my news....my TV shows

Everything I knew was a lie....a fairytale to keep me under control

Now....I'm sad