Thuban Q&A: (warning longer than normal posts here)

[UncleJohn]

Hi Abrax,

I would say that the interface between consciousness and memory is of utmost importance. What you say abrax?

Where does your consciousness and memory reside Abrax?

Who has hidden access or control over either?

Thanks Uncle John

[Jacqui D]

Hi Abrax, well it is very late here, but i was determined to read through all the posts i have missed the last few days i have not been on Avalon.
Whilst i find all the numerical side of your writings a little confusing a pattern is beginning to form in my mind and i still struggle with some and feel totally inadequate at times with all these teachings i would like to say it has been an exciting read.
I am glad the posts have turned a little more positive i felt in previous posts that some were becoming and feeling a little overwhelmed with your work a little dark.
I understand that light and darkness was created and both has a part to play in this creation each playing against the other or mirroring in your words another way of describing it.
I also understand if i am correct and please correct me of i am wrong that when the new earth this 4th density which comes with the ascension will be totally thought form.
Free from solid matter then?
But we would have the free will to create in a rudimentary form.

I have always believed that we all need to be as innocent children again having none judgemental beliefs and seeing with heart not so much with the mind i know this has been instilled within us being indoctrinated into certain belief systems/religions/education and i guess worse of all our own parents setting a pattern which turned us basically into them.
When i look into the eyes of those innocent ones those tiny babies i see the true love the oneness which so sadly is lost, within a few months of birth.

I have been trying to connect back to past memories some have been given but so much more to understand.
I have also been having vast knowledge relayed to me recently continuously most evenings in a sleep state, very revealing to and i may add emotional things for me which i have always known since a little girl of who what i am.

I am a sceptic, strange thing to say really when i have my own experiences i do believe others i do not doubt and would never say this was not truth or is the truth i seem to have a mechanism within me that seems to click on when i read or take any information in, i am often told to use this mechanism and still i ask myself can i believe.

I had an encounter a year ago with two reptilians, this changed my life i was attacked by one it was a horrific attack and i guess i am still coming to terms with it.
If it wasn't for the mark they left on my right arm i may have questioned if it happened because it was like a nightmare but the mark substantiated this experience to be true.
I have been trying to find answers for this attack and why it happened to me, these were two warlords predator type beings.
I was told by the one that attacked me that "He had been looking for me for a long time" which made me feel he knew me and if he did how?

I don't know why i am telling you this i have wrote about this numerous times on this site and i should think most are sick of hearing about it now, but this was a very true and deep experience for me.
Someone asked me once was you frightened well yes of course i was, but you know one of the two preds was very kind to me and actually helped me and gave me healing. So i look at it differently now because i now know that not all reps are bad, as they are portrayed to be, just as we have good and bad in humans i realise we have good and bad in other races.
I have not entirely forgiven the one that attacked me i still find it hard but i know i must, i just want answers why me!

I have tried to be a good person all my life, i love all of creators creatures, i have spoken to mother earth she has helped me when i needed answers to questions i could not answer for myself.
I do believe i have been a victim of certain things which happen on this Earth, and i feel humans get a raw deal sometimes, being so dumbed down/memory loss and control, and i do feel we are controlled to extent we can not be the soul purpose of our problems there have been outer forces at and also.
Yet i know i have come here for this time to take on a commission as sort as so many today have.

Your writing has been in depth and intriguing.
thank Abrax.

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Jacqui D

Hi Abrax, well it is very late here, but i was determined to read through all the posts i have missed the last few days i have not been on Avalon.
Whilst i find all the numerical side of your writings a little confusing a pattern is beginning to form in my mind and i still struggle with some and feel totally inadequate at times with all these teachings i would like to say it has been an exciting read.
I am glad the posts have turned a little more positive i felt in previous posts that some were becoming and feeling a little overwhelmed with your work a little dark.
I understand that light and darkness was created and both has a part to play in this creation each playing against the other or mirroring in your words another way of describing it.
I also understand if i am correct and please correct me of i am wrong that when the new earth this 4th density which comes with the ascension will be totally thought form.
Free from solid matter then?

No Jacqui, the 3D earth will be the SEED for the 4D earth and the present solidity will be like the kernel of a peach say. The softness of the peach is somewhat like the 4D, in that a fluidity of form will accompany the present 3D rigidity. This analogy is technically inaccurate, as the peach is 3D and not 4D, but the simili is valid.

But we would have the free will to create in a rudimentary form.

I have always believed that we all need to be as innocent children again having none judgemental beliefs and seeing with heart not so much with the mind i know this has been instilled within us being indoctrinated into certain belief systems/religions/education and i guess worse of all our own parents setting a pattern which turned us basically into them.
When i look into the eyes of those innocent ones those tiny babies i see the true love the oneness which so sadly is lost, within a few months of birth.

Yes, whenever you look into the eyes of a newborn baby or puppy or kitten or such you are witnessing the presence of God. It is still there in the pets, if you have treated them honorably. The kids are forced by their environs to become like little egomaniacs, just to survive and this will change.


I have been trying to connect back to past memories some have been given but so much more to understand.
I have also been having vast knowledge relayed to me recently continuously most evenings in a sleep state, very revealing to and i may add emotional things for me which i have always known since a little girl of who what i am.

I am a sceptic, strange thing to say really when i have my own experiences i do believe others i do not doubt and would never say this was not truth or is the truth i seem to have a mechanism within me that seems to click on when i read or take any information in, i am often told to use this mechanism and still i ask myself can i believe.

I had an encounter a year ago with two reptilians, this changed my life i was attacked by one it was a horrific attack and i guess i am still coming to terms with it.
If it wasn't for the mark they left on my right arm i may have questioned if it happened because it was like a nightmare but the mark substantiated this experience to be true.
I have been trying to find answers for this attack and why it happened to me, these were two warlords predator type beings.
I was told by the one that attacked me that "He had been looking for me for a long time" which made me feel he knew me and if he did how?

I don't know why i am telling you this i have wrote about this numerous times on this site and i should think most are sick of hearing about it now, but this was a very true and deep experience for me.
Someone asked me once was you frightened well yes of course i was, but you know one of the two preds was very kind to me and actually helped me and gave me healing. So i look at it differently now because i now know that not all reps are bad, as they are portrayed to be, just as we have good and bad in humans i realise we have good and bad in other races.
I have not entirely forgiven the one that attacked me i still find it hard but i know i must, i just want answers why me!

I have tried to be a good person all my life, i love all of creators creatures, i have spoken to mother earth she has helped me when i needed answers to questions i could not answer for myself.
I do believe i have been a victim of certain things which happen on this Earth, and i feel humans get a raw deal sometimes, being so dumbed down/memory loss and control, and i do feel we are controlled to extent we can not be the soul purpose of our problems there have been outer forces at and also.
Yet i know i have come here for this time to take on a commission as sort as so many today have.

The rep attack you experienced can have many causes Jacqui. I'll try to derive some info...
Ok, this is what I saw.
At a time long ago, you 'stole some eggs' from a reptilian nest.
Now this might have been say 5 million years ago and you were not in human form, but in an early hominid form, say that of a Australopithecine or Homo Ergaster or HomoErectus.
You had children yourself and you foraged for food to feed your young ones.
Now something strange happened, because you saw the reptiles, say a pair of prehistoric crocodiles look for their young.
You felt this strange emotion then, that you had 'taken their children' to feed your own and a sense of guilt in a mother's empathy entered your consciousness and selfawareness.

From this time onward, you felt a strange affinity with the Crocodiles, yet you alse feared them because of your guilt.
Subsequently, over millions of years, you never processed those 'strange emotions' of empathy coupled to guilt and fear and your lifetime incarnations followed you through to this time, where your reptilian brainstem has awakened to finally process your million year old encounter.

A thoughtform for the processing then resulted in your nightmare coupled to a psychophysical marking from the superconscious.
This thoughtform was your empathy of imagining what you would do to the crocodile, should it attempt to 'steal or abduct' your children to feel its young.

The mirror image of this of course became the reptoid pursuing you and exclaiming:
"I have been looking for you!"

Your writing has been in depth and intriguing.
thank Abrax.

AA

[realitycorrodes]

Greetings abraxasinas,

Thank you for your previous replies to my questions.

I wish to ask you personally.

Do you personally eat animals?

Do the Thuban Council recommend eating animals (unnecessarily) to people who wish to access higher vibratory dimensions?

Or do they recommend eating a vegerarian diet to people who wish to access higher vibratory dimensions?

Or they don't recommend either of the above as in their perception it does not matter?


Do the Thuban council recognise that it is unnecessary for humans to eat animals?


P.S. I don't eat my friends the animals unnecessarily...in a world of abundance in the west at least ... it always looks unnecessary to eat our friends.

P.S. Don't our friends the animals enjoy ever right to a long happy life absorbing and processing the experiences of the earth program from their perscpective. Their purpose as a learning function is surely more than just becoming fertiliser.

P.S. I try to be harmonic. Love for me is harmonic. It does no harm! Killing an animal unnecessarily seems to be disharmonic to me? Eating the fruit form a tree and killing an animal seem very different things in terms of maintianing harmony.

At the end of the day, I wish to experience harmony so I try to live as harmoniously as I can without inflicting the great horror/ pain upon my friends the animals. Why is this so hard for humans to understand?


Wishing Peace and the end of ignorance to all sentient beings!

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by realitycorrodes

Greetings abraxasinas,

Thank you for your previous replies to my questions.

I wish to ask you personally.

Do you personally eat animals?

From the Thuban perspective I do not require food intake, related to the programmed lightbody following the metamorphosis,
From the human perspective I eat mainly vegetables and fluids, some fish and little meat.

Do the Thuban Council recommend eating animals (unnecessarily) to people who wish to access higher vibratory dimensions?

Have you been to the Inuit country? There the diet is almost exclusively seal and fish; simply because nothing else is available there.
So your label of 'unnecessarily' is inappropriate in the Inuit country.

And yet the Inuit honours its seals and certainly does not engage in wanton slaughter. The seal is a close relative to the bear and the canines and so is rather closely affiliated with the consciousness evolution of the species interactions and the consciousness as a whole.

Or do they recommend eating a vegerarian diet to people who wish to access higher vibratory dimensions?

Yes, generally a vegetarian diet high in alkaloids is more suitable for the human vessel and circulatory systems (endocrine, blood, nerve, intestinal etc); both in the ease of digestion and the containment of the biochemical nutrients.

Or they don't recommend either of the above as in their perception it does not matter?

We do not sit in judgement about what anyone eats. We observe what the 'health effects' are in the intake of substances and foods and then, following analysis, we may publish our conclusions.
One example would be alcohol in moderation has been found to be beneficial for the biochemical reactor; whilst the intake of artifical nicotine products has shown no beneficial effects at all, but has indicated many health problems.


Do the Thuban council recognise that it is unnecessary for humans to eat animals?

Yes, whilst the human genus has evolved to be omniverous, say with canine teeth reducing from the say canine or feline emphasis; a vegetarian diet can be entertained by finding appropriate substitutes for the proteins and vitamins required by the biochemical reactors.


P.S. I don't eat my friends the animals unnecessarily...in a world of abundance in the west at least ... it always looks unnecessary to eat our friends.

You are forgetting that animals eat animals and so some of your friends eat some of your other friends. I DO agree with your sentiments, but the time of the lion eating straw has not yet come. And yes there is no unnecessary 'slaughter and eating' amongst your friends.

P.S. Don't our friends the animals enjoy ever right to a long happy life absorbing and processing the experiences of the earth program from their perscpective. Their purpose as a learning function is surely more than just becoming fertiliser.

Yes, you have not understood my replies and are biased towards your own understandings and database.
The little ant in your garden is connected to ET intelligence and this is more than fertilizer, but relates to the Sharing of Consciousness.

P.S. I try to be harmonic. Love for me is harmonic. It does no harm! Killing an animal unnecessarily seems to be disharmonic to me? Eating the fruit form a tree and killing an animal seem very different things in terms of maintianing harmony.

That is what I said in my reply.

At the end of the day, I wish to experience harmony so I try to live as harmoniously as I can without inflicting the great horror/ pain upon my friends the animals. Why is this so hard for humans to understand?

What about the disabled zebra being attacked by a pride of female lions and being torn apart. This part of the 'Nature in Agony' has NO human input at all. Your sentiments are from the heart and in the 'New World' the zebra will NOT be food for the lions. Physical reality of the old world is more violent, as the 'sharing of consciousness' is 'forced' by nature's self-evolution.


Wishing Peace and the end of ignorance to all sentient beings!

To sit in judgement about the Natural World and its selfexpression can be considered to be a form of ignorance.

AA

[hippihillbobbi]

Abraxas --

I was reading some of the material i found on (one of??) your website(s) ..... some info apparently given by a reptilian from a race that has lived underground here for a long time. in general, i found it extremely interesting. the following question comes after an exchange where Lacerte (this reptilian's "name") tells her human interviewer that one or more of the "3 hostile alien races" here (she insists her race is not hostile to humans) have plans which somehow will cause harm to humans/humanity. Cue the interviewer:

Question: Will the other extraterrestrial species undertake nothing against these war-like actions? Specifically, something ought to be on Earth for the more highly developed species.

Answer: You're wrong there. Specifically, for the more highly developed species there is simply at the very least your fate. You are animals for them. Animals in a very large lab. Understandably, an alien intervention on your planet would disturb their projects, but I don't think that they accept a confrontation with other species for it. Many of them could look for another research planet for themselves or they could study over a long distance your behavior and your consciousness/awareness, since crisis situations could have an attraction for their studies. Whenever you people take a look at an ant hill, and another person comes along and steps on the ant hill, what do you do? You go on your way, or you search for another ant hill or you observe the ants in their crisis condition. But would one of you —even though he were larger and more powerful than the one who stepped on the ant hill in the first place— defend the meaningless ants? No. You have to imagine for yourself the viewpoint of the more highly advanced creatures. You are the ants. Don't expect any help from them.

AA -- what is your/Thuban perspective on this "alien's" answer?

and, one more question ....

Do Thubans or "Dragonized" consciousness have any inherently closer relationship to reptilian races than, say, 3-d humans do? i.e., do the archetypes of dragon/serpent as related to the original plan for this creation imply any special or "familial" connection between reptilian species and the body-mind-spirit complex known as Yeshua/Melchizidek [Logos]? (hope you can make some sense of what i'm trying to get-at here?!?)

As always, Abraxasinas, thanks so very much!

Hippihill

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by hippihillbobbi

Abraxas --

I was reading some of the material i found on (one of??) your website(s) ..... some info apparently given by a reptilian from a race that has lived underground here for a long time. in general, i found it extremely interesting. the following question comes after an exchange where Lacerte (this reptilian's "name") tells her human interviewer that one or more of the "3 hostile alien races" here (she insists her race is not hostile to humans) have plans which somehow will cause harm to humans/humanity. Cue the interviewer:

Question: Will the other extraterrestrial species undertake nothing against these war-like actions? Specifically, something ought to be on Earth for the more highly developed species.

Answer: You're wrong there. Specifically, for the more highly developed species there is simply at the very least your fate. You are animals for them. Animals in a very large lab. Understandably, an alien intervention on your planet would disturb their projects, but I don't think that they accept a confrontation with other species for it. Many of them could look for another research planet for themselves or they could study over a long distance your behavior and your consciousness/awareness, since crisis situations could have an attraction for their studies. Whenever you people take a look at an ant hill, and another person comes along and steps on the ant hill, what do you do? You go on your way, or you search for another ant hill or you observe the ants in their crisis condition. But would one of you —even though he were larger and more powerful than the one who stepped on the ant hill in the first place— defend the meaningless ants? No. You have to imagine for yourself the viewpoint of the more highly advanced creatures. You are the ants. Don't expect any help from them.

AA -- what is your/Thuban perspective on this "alien's" answer?

I agree- You are the ants! This reference of yours seems unfamiliar. Could you give me the URL of where you found this. It is NOT Thuban material, but a background material for me to have commented upon to make a point just as this - You are the ants!

and, one more question ....

Do Thubans or "Dragonized" consciousness have any inherently closer relationship to reptilian races than, say, 3-d humans do? i.e., do the archetypes of dragon/serpent as related to the original plan for this creation imply any special or "familial" connection between reptilian species and the body-mind-spirit complex known as Yeshua/Melchizidek [Logos]? (hope you can make some sense of what i'm trying to get-at here?!?)

Yes, the simple equation is: Old Human+Dragon=StarHuman.
The Old Human is the reptilian brainstem, common to all vertebrates following the Reptilian emergence. The New Human then has a Dragon-Brain adding to the Triune Brain of present taxonomic classification.

A reference is Carl Sagan's book: The Dragons of Eden.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dragons_of_Eden

The fourth part, i.e. the DragonBrain is the Melchizedek or Plumed Serpent agency.


As always, Abraxasinas, thanks so very much!

Hippihill

AA

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by UncleJohn

Hi Abrax,

I would say that the interface between consciousness and memory is of utmost importance. What you say abrax?

To discuss this with you in a meaningful way, the terms 'consciousness' and 'memory' require definition. I did this before and was grossly misunderstood. To reurgitate philosophical treatisizes and 'schools of thoughts' does not result in progress, because the scientific definition for the terms are so vague and underdeveloped.

The only way for me to reply to you would so be for you to ask specific and not generalised questions as in the above.

But to try in a nontechnical manner; 'Consciousness' is a property of space itself. Without space no consciousness coupled to physicality can exist.
Then 'memory' relates to information storage, this information being obtained by spacetime interaction.
So consciousness relates to space relates to memory.
This memory CAN be modelled on that of an electro capacitor.
This then relates the capacity of space to collect and harbour energy in a storable way.
So this data-energy must become related to the energy pathways permeating the dynamics of space interaction.
So we return to what space is in terms of energy and where this energy does not have to be conserved in the material, say entropic sense; but MUST be more fundamentally linked to the data existing BEFORE space existed.
So the metaphysics enters in a data=energy nonmaterialised.
Then the data=imaginary before materiality and requires definition of a preenergy or a metaphysical superenergy (just labels).
This is your P=NP halting problem.
Whatever subsets you may create, the unity (say the NP) persists and CANNOT be subdivided.
As soon as you partition the VOID=Eternity, the hierarchies and holofractal nestings appear and by the Goedel Paradox of the Incompleteness, you require a STRONGER AXIOM or criteria to 'prove' the axioms.
The strongest axiom so is the NP-Unity as the Universal Set say.

etc. etc.



Where does your consciousness and memory reside Abrax?

Within the 11D-electromagnetically bounded universe, Uncle John. The quant count is a googol of so 147 digits.


Who has hidden access or control over either?

The Universal Logos, because IT alone spans and encompasses the spacetime quanta in summation and completion and expansion.

Thanks Uncle John

Your welcome

AA