Mr Laviolette?? please explain??

Kojak · 01-07-2010, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Barron

Hi Kojak.

Your story mirrors that of my Dad (a retired electronics) engineer in some respects. Thanks for posting it.

No worries Barron!! I think someone should make sure this info gets to Kerry and Bill ,it needs to be clarified. I was so impressed by Lavoliette initially, I want to know the truth. Can someone contact K or B??

Also! I bought the book, so I want to know!!!

Also Barron, can you change your Avatar please? I fell into a trance for 2hours, and only just got out of it, and am late for work now.

waitinginthewings · 01-07-2010, 12:59 AM

Kojak: here is a link to a recent interview (Nov. 20/09) done with Mel Fabregas of the Veritas Show....you can listen to part 1 for free.....you will need to be a member to listen to part 2......their phone connection was disconnected 24 times during the interview....very interesting.

http://www.veritasshow.com/guests/50.php

Kojak · 01-07-2010, 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

Kojak: here is a link to a recent interview (Nov. 20/09) done with Mel Fabregas of the Veritas Show....you can listen to part 1 for free.....you will need to be a member to listen to part 2......their phone connection was disconnected 24 times during the interview....very interesting.

http://www.veritasshow.com/guests/50.php

Thanks WaitingintheWINGS!! i'll check that out. It's funny how things happen, eg 24 disconnections. I could go on, re those type of situations......

I feel that there must be merit in Paul's work, I'd just like to know how Searles work got in the book, if the article is correct. There's dark forces at work, that's for sure...........

Barron · 01-07-2010, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Kojak

No worries Barron!! I think someone should make sure this info gets to Kerry and Bill ,it needs to be clarified. I was so impressed by Lavoliette initially, I want to know the truth. Can someone contact K or B??

Also! I bought the book, so I want to know!!!

Also Barron, can you change your Avatar please? I fell into a trance for 2hours, and only just got out of it, and am late for work now.

Sorry Kojak, i love this Avatar as i am a hypnotherapist! Would you prefer i swap it for a swinging watch on a chain?

dayzero · 01-07-2010, 09:30 AM

Yes, good topic....

I'm into a bit of fringe science among other things

there's a maelstrom of stuff out there, and some of it may be true!

the main problem, as in all these fringe areas,
is that it is by definition and necessity stuffed with cointel
and or crazy 'believers' of one sort or another with all sorts of
dead horses to flog and axes to grind......
and of course, this brings some very strange politics.
and all this amounts to a total morass of conflicting information,
designed, primarily, to be bewildering enough to stop any conclusions
forming. it's a familiar pattern and tactic.

["We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, CIA Director]

i believe very soon we're going to start getting FAR clearer indications of what/who is worth looking at and what is fantasy
[for one reason or another].

Soo......I already thought that Violette was suspect - thanks for the post!

gscraig · 01-07-2010, 01:33 PM

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Also Barron, can you change your Avatar please? I fell into a trance for 2hours, and only just got out of it, and am late for work now.

LOL!!!

Nice

waitinginthewings · 01-07-2010, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dayzero

Yes, good topic....

I'm into a bit of fringe science among other things

there's a maelstrom of stuff out there, and some of it may be true!

the main problem, as in all these fringe areas,
is that it is by definition and necessity stuffed with cointel
and or crazy 'believers' of one sort or another with all sorts of
dead horses to flog and axes to grind......
and of course, this brings some very strange politics.
and all this amounts to a total morass of conflicting information,
designed, primarily, to be bewildering enough to stop any conclusions
forming. it's a familiar pattern and tactic.

["We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, CIA Director]

i believe very soon we're going to start getting FAR clearer indications of what/who is worth looking at and what is fantasy
[for one reason or another].

Soo......I already thought that Violette was suspect - thanks for the post!

Lately, I feel more & more that everything is a big lie, even everything that we are learning through the alternative news sources. I am also inclined to think that everything we are being fed through whistleblowers, books, conferences etc. is just another matrix being overlayed over the old matrix which is still in existence for those who do not question anything.....so we now have 2 matrix..................no wonder I desperately want to get off this planet.

Kojak · 01-08-2010, 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

Lately, I feel more & more that everything is a big lie, even everything that we are learning through the alternative news sources. I am also inclined to think that everything we are being fed through whistleblowers, books, conferences etc. is just another matrix being overlayed over the old matrix which is still in existence for those who do not question anything.....so we now have 2 matrix..................no wonder I desperately want to get off this planet.

You're so right, very right, re BIG lie!! some of these whistleblowers and so forth are definitely full of ****. But who is your guru, who do you follow, i want to look at John Lash and Sonia Barrett, they are ringing through to me, as possibly real deal types. Not that i wil worship them, or feel i have found the "whole truth", but feel they have good info.The conferences and so forth are like big travelling circuses, clowns, jugglers, trained animals....etc. Your right, just so much BS!!!! In my opinion,the answers are in you, it's just getting them out, with some direction? Stay on the planet.......

I am careful what I put in my body and also have worked very hard to clean it properly. Believe me, it makes an enormous difference, enormous. Aspartame, flouride and all the other wonderful things they expose us to....We all have potential, they don't want you to explore and utilise, or for you to think. Everything has an energy and you only want "good" ones in you, as they effect you, and sickness in your body, and clogged areas, eg- mucoid plaque, assist negative entities to attach, which want to hang out here to, non physical parasites, helping create the monkey mind. bla bla bla.And then to work out who the creator is, and who the scammer is!! Who's connected to who ,at the top, so many have the same spots and stripes when you look deep enough. Hyperdimensional entities, are affecting us, vectoring our behaviour, definitely. It's a game, but we're eternal, so show no fear to the "truckers". This is but a drop in the ocean, in our overall existence, just observe it and play the game. If your good ( I think Peter 218-Bible, illustrates this, look it up, I can if you can't?), they can't win, but do they try and stir the pot, the "truckers", truck em!!! We win in the end, us goodin's, you'll see!! woohoo!

Dayzero- Great response, loved reading your thoughts. I will look up the website. Rotten batteries died on the keyboard b4, just as I was writing this, charged em up! An interesting comment by William Casey!? Now I have more to read and look up, as if i have a shortage of reading material!?!? Thank You!!!

Jnana · 02-02-2010, 05:59 PM

Before defending relativity too vigorously, I think one needs to consider how, within conventional physics, enormous craft can be made to hover silently in the sky and then take off silently at incredible speed. Einstein's interpretation of gravity as a curvature of space makes this incredibly difficult if not impossible. Other interpretations of gravity, many of which are based on the existence of some sort of aether, make field propulsion practical and relatively easy. Given that manipulation of gravity by electric fields has been demonstrated (T. Townsend Brown and others), I think it is fair to say that although Einstein's equations provide good predictions, his interpretation of the mechanism of gravity is suspect. Other mechanisms fit these same equations and lend themselves more readily to a unified field theory that makes the engineering of gravity control devices relatively easy.

While I understand how easy it is to conclude that Searl is a nutcase, if you read the rest of the chapter you will find that LaViolette discusses a replication of the Searl device in more detail than Searl's original device. He also discusses a simple motor based on a roller bearing that was demonstrated by a physics student and which explains one aspect of how the Searl device works. To say that LaViolette accepted all of Searl's claims at face value is a bit unfair, although he does repeat some of the claims (e.g., "health benefits") without further comment.

Overall, the book is a pretty good introduction to various aspects of alternative physics and devices based on principles that are inconsistent with standard physics. He also has a bit of background on which companies are doing work in electrogravitics and how the coverup of the associated scientific principles is maintained. Whether LaViolette's own pet theory, subquantum kinetics, eventually proves to have superior predictive ability remains to be seen.

01-07-2010, 12:59 AM	#2
waitinginthewings Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: BC. Canada Posts: 1,340	Re: Mr Laviolette?? please explain?? Kojak: here is a link to a recent interview (Nov. 20/09) done with Mel Fabregas of the Veritas Show....you can listen to part 1 for free.....you will need to be a member to listen to part 2......their phone connection was disconnected 24 times during the interview....very interesting. http://www.veritasshow.com/guests/50.php

01-07-2010, 09:30 AM	#5
dayzero Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Southern England Posts: 458	Re: Mr Laviolette?? please explain?? Yes, good topic.... I'm into a bit of fringe science among other things there's a maelstrom of stuff out there, and some of it may be true! the main problem, as in all these fringe areas, is that it is by definition and necessity stuffed with cointel and or crazy 'believers' of one sort or another with all sorts of dead horses to flog and axes to grind...... and of course, this brings some very strange politics. and all this amounts to a total morass of conflicting information, designed, primarily, to be bewildering enough to stop any conclusions forming. it's a familiar pattern and tactic. ["We'll know our disinformation program is complete when everything the American public believes is false." -- William Casey, CIA Director] i believe very soon we're going to start getting FAR clearer indications of what/who is worth looking at and what is fantasy [for one reason or another]. Soo......I already thought that Violette was suspect - thanks for the post!

02-02-2010, 05:59 PM	#9
Jnana Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Indiana Posts: 653	Re: Mr Laviolette?? please explain?? Before defending relativity too vigorously, I think one needs to consider how, within conventional physics, enormous craft can be made to hover silently in the sky and then take off silently at incredible speed. Einstein's interpretation of gravity as a curvature of space makes this incredibly difficult if not impossible. Other interpretations of gravity, many of which are based on the existence of some sort of aether, make field propulsion practical and relatively easy. Given that manipulation of gravity by electric fields has been demonstrated (T. Townsend Brown and others), I think it is fair to say that although Einstein's equations provide good predictions, his interpretation of the mechanism of gravity is suspect. Other mechanisms fit these same equations and lend themselves more readily to a unified field theory that makes the engineering of gravity control devices relatively easy. While I understand how easy it is to conclude that Searl is a nutcase, if you read the rest of the chapter you will find that LaViolette discusses a replication of the Searl device in more detail than Searl's original device. He also discusses a simple motor based on a roller bearing that was demonstrated by a physics student and which explains one aspect of how the Searl device works. To say that LaViolette accepted all of Searl's claims at face value is a bit unfair, although he does repeat some of the claims (e.g., "health benefits") without further comment. Overall, the book is a pretty good introduction to various aspects of alternative physics and devices based on principles that are inconsistent with standard physics. He also has a bit of background on which companies are doing work in electrogravitics and how the coverup of the associated scientific principles is maintained. Whether LaViolette's own pet theory, subquantum kinetics, eventually proves to have superior predictive ability remains to be seen.