YOU as April in Wonderland and as Alice in Mirrorland

[James Casbolt]

Thanks for posting, very interesting!

[bigmo]

Abraxas,

I read your post and am trying to understand what you wish to convey. Would it be this:

We are April and Draco is the mirror (or the counterpart of our creations) that you speak about in the story?

If I understood the story April (was or is) an expanding universe which has a mirrored image universe (Alice? or Draco?) outside of Aprils' universe that is able to see her.

Isn't the Draco constellations within our universe?

Or is it a black hole through which a worm hole expands into our counter universe? Lol I'm not sure what I'm asking... haha!

Hard for me to to follow you sir.

Peace

[Steven]

Originally Posted by bigmo

...Hard for me to to follow you sir...

I think it is a lady...

Namaste, Steven

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Steven

I think it is a lady...

Namaste, Steven

Indeed her name is Stefania!

Abrax

[Steven]

Originally Posted by abraxasinas

Indeed her name is Stefania!

Abrax

That's a beautiful name, meaning "crown". Same as mine, lol.

Namaste, Steven

[bigmo]

Abraxas,

Thank you for your response to my last inquiry. If you would indulge me another question...

You mentioned James of the Wingmakers in another thread.

James was very clear that any channeled material was still under the influence of the HMS (human mind system) since the programming for the HMS extended beyond our 3 dimensions. (not sure how many more it encompassed, up to the 5th or 6th?)

Are any of the foundational material upon which you have build your explanations and premises channeled information?

He also states, as you have, that we are all one and further suggest that the quickest way to remembering who we are is to raise the vibrational level of our local universe by adapting a heart centered perspective, which can be achieved by practicing the 6 heart virtues.

Would you say that the information you are sharing would harmonize, within an acceptable range, the current Lyricus or Event Temple teachings and discourses?

I have to admit that there is something in what you are saying that is drawing me in (one of my weaknesses is for intellectualism ) but I can't put my finger on it yet.

If indeed you believe you are in harmony with the Wingmakers material... please tell me where I may learn more.

Thanks for taking the time to answer.

Peace

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by bigmo

Abraxas,

Thank you for your response to my last inquiry. If you would indulge me another question...

You mentioned James of the Wingmakers in another thread.

James was very clear that any channeled material was still under the influence of the HMS (human mind system) since the programming for the HMS extended beyond our 3 dimensions. (not sure how many more it encompassed, up to the 5th or 6th?)

Are any of the foundational material upon which you have build your explanations and premises channeled information?

He also states, as you have, that we are all one and further suggest that the quickest way to remembering who we are is to raise the vibrational level of our local universe by adapting a heart centered perspective, which can be achieved by practicing the 6 heart virtues.

Would you say that the information you are sharing would harmonize, within an acceptable range, the current Lyricus or Event Temple teachings and discourses?

I have to admit that there is something in what you are saying that is drawing me in (one of my weaknesses is for intellectualism ) but I can't put my finger on it yet.

If indeed you believe you are in harmony with the Wingmakers material... please tell me where I may learn more.

Thanks for taking the time to answer.

Peace

Another excellent observation and question bigmo!

Indeed James is correct about the channelled material.
Channelling is simply the subduction of waking consciousness to 'tap' the subconscious - the collective subconscious of Carl Gustav Jung say.
So to then 'overcome' the waking intellect, ego and rationality; the 'medium' 'goes into a trance' for the purpose to become a 'clear channel'.

What James refers to is that the subconscious itself is part of the 'human conditioning'; so channelling from the subconscious will open a 'Pandora's Box' of entitities, energies and influences.
Iow the Noosphere of Verdansky and Teilhard de Chardin will be tapped in the 'Akashic Records' that is the 'collective' human experience in memory, thought forms and experiences.

The wingmakers material is in full harmony with the material from Thuban and there is a common source provided in a most misinterpreted little book as part of the Nag Hammadi Codex, found in Egypt just after WWII.

It is called 'The Gospel of Thomas Dydimos' and is older than any of the canons of what is termed today 'The New Testament'.

The GoT has nothing to do with dogmatic religion, but incorporates and describes the cosmogenesis or cosmogony (as ontology for cosmology) in a most cohesive and selfconsistent fashion.
Iow the archetypes both the wingmakers and the Thuban material address are also found in the GoT.
Now because if the confiscation of this material by religious AND academic interests; the emphasis was placed on historicity; who wrote what and when; instead of analysis of the words and what they might mean in the cosmogenetic contexts.

There are many translations; here is one: http://www.geocities.com/mwgrondin/5thGospl.htm

Now I can perhaps entice you to see that that James of the wingmakers has as its ultimate terrestrial source the GoT; and so has Thuban.
We term it 'The Master's Handbook' - the 'mastery' referring not to some 'better than thou' attribute, but the surpassing of the dead alive -living dead dichotomy of quantum mechanics and the related physical consequences for this.

James of the wingmakers works from the Thuban perspective. The physical universe (of 10D=4D colocal) becomes a mirror and the 3+9=12 also becomes the mirror for the mirror to reflect in.
The 10D mirror has an inside-outside' BEING TWOSIDED; but the 12D mirror is Onesided - this makes all the difference.

The space between 10D and the 12D (of the two mirrors) is like 11D. It is from there the wingmakers come in their timetravel capacity.
Because the 11D then reflects in the 12D mirror into the 13D the wingmakers are reflected Thubanites.
Only 'beyond' 10D will the human mind system be rendered 'overpowered' by a greater and more encompassing perspective.

Abrax

[bigmo]

Thank you kindly for your response Abraxas.

Peace to you.

[Agape]

It's an old and gold story just that with time here it's getting exponentially complicate , wonder how the same story may sound after 1000 + years ?

No matter in how many universes it's being re-told to kids and in how many versions, the simple count sais that there is only one dimension in each universe where it's also being real.

To continue..

Regards

A

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by bigmo

Abraxas,

I read your post and am trying to understand what you wish to convey. Would it be this:

We are April and Draco is the mirror (or the counterpart of our creations) that you speak about in the story?

If I understood the story April (was or is) an expanding universe which has a mirrored image universe (Alice? or Draco?) outside of Aprils' universe that is able to see her.

Isn't the Draco constellations within our universe?

Or is it a black hole through which a worm hole expands into our counter universe? Lol I'm not sure what I'm asking... haha!

Hard for me to to follow you sir.

Peace

Hi bigmo!

It is even simpler than this bigmo. You are April, or say the 'April' in you is your feminine shadow-self.
{Technically, you could have been born a girl if your biological father's Xo-chromosome would have fused with your biological mother's X1or2 chromosome, isstead of your father's Y chromosome}.

You, bigmo, say before being conceived and born as 'Little bigmo' as one of many many babies throughout history in space and time -PREEXISTED as 'Big bigmo' (you can term this All That Is or God or 'The Collective' or what have you).

So your individual life becomes an adventure to EXPERIENCE yourself - the 'Big bigmo' in SEPARATION, as just one of many many mirror images of yourself.

The Story then says, that part of your life's adventure is to REDISCOVER the unity and oneness of all things and in this way to ALLOW the 'Big bigmo' to exist as one of many 'Little bigmos' growing up and remebering from whence he came.

Technically, your 'Little bigmo' body so holographically represents the total mass of the universe, as a miniature photo of it say.
So you 'throw your weight around', which technically defines the expanding thermodynamical universe and then you can model this cosmology as an expansion of a lowerD volume into a higherD volume.

Then Draco, the constellation is within the lowerD, as you have said; BUT is also IMAGED by the Boundary of the lowerD universe (your body as a hologram) onto the boundary of the higherD universe.

From this then the technicalities emerge, but become simplified by you looking into the lowerD mirror (in your room, being your body in the bathroom say) but there is a 'hole' or 'window' in your bathroom mirror, which allows you to look into another mirror (the higherD one towards the universe is expanding towards to).

Looking through the window in your bathroom mirror then allows you to see 'a glimpse' however vague of the 'Big bigmo' before he was born.

Thanks for your pertinent question and to give me the opportunity to elucidate.

Abrax
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[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by James Casbolt

Thanks for posting, very interesting!

You are welcome James. I am glad you could understand this story about yourself.

Abrax

[Jacqui D]

Hm! Abrax now why was i thinking the same thing!
although a little deep i see the concept of it all thank you for sharing this.

[abraxasinas]

Originally Posted by Jacqui D

Hm! Abrax now why was i thinking the same thing!
although a little deep i see the concept of it all thank you for sharing this.

Hi Jacqui!

Hopefully my answer to bigmo has made it a little simpler to understand.

Abrax

[Jacqui D]

I think you may have mis interpreted my answer i should have quoted your answer i was refering to James when i said Hm! now why did i think that. This has been a very interesting thread Abrax thank you once again