What do you make?

haibane · 01-05-2010, 02:17 AM

I taught English to adults for a couple of years, and it is NOT an easy task. I admire all the good teachers (I wish I was one), especially those who face children every working day, since it's an act of bravery, but then again, where I'm from, good teachers are hard to find, the school system is rather hostile and accommodates much better for mediocrity. I wonder if it's any better elsewhere.

It is a great vid Céline, I just wish it was about an average, majority teacher. 'Cos I'm afraid it's not.

es7ter · 01-05-2010, 02:58 AM

I would like to add a personal experience and viewpoint on the educational system...

When I was in High school it was a nightmare... I would like to add two comments here... 1, fault of the system (the teachers did not know better) 2, I am grateful for those times, because they made me who I am today.
So when I was there, in those days all I’ve got out of it was intimidation and a fear based hierarchy system. And both of those are hard to deal with for an indigo kid. The system is wrong and outdated, because the overcrowded classrooms and the curriculum are both useless. There was a lot of stress on our teachers and so they acted out fear of underperforming children and the pressure from the head master, who would have been better off as an army officer, rather than a positive authority figure for children.
And even tho I find it easy to learn massive amount of information quickly and sufficiently, the whole thing was a catalyst to rebel and wanting to destroy the system that caused us children so much grief over the years. It was separating us from each other. Those kids, whose parents were donating money to the school, were always safe from intimidation and even bad marks. My parents weren’t, so for me it was a struggle being bright, yet non-conforming. Until this day I feel strongly about the public school systems and its dangers to society. It just won’t cut it any longer. I sincerely hope, that what the indigos came to change (old systems) and re-build with the help of the crystals arriving, we can have an educational system for all, that is not based on corruption, fear and intimidation, but on true values, integrity and enough space for the left and right brained children to learn life skills as well as academic knowledge and develop into confident and smart individuals. A system, that brings joy to the teachers and students equally.
I am proud of being different now, but God knows, just how happy I was finishing up and never looking back. Maybe that’s what I needed, the stimulus, to go against and stay gifted, rather than conform and die, like a caged bird, which never learned to fly.

Thank God for the gifted and those, who dare to teach them with patience and love!

Céline · 01-05-2010, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by haibane

It is a great vid Céline, I just wish it was about an average, majority teacher. 'Cos I'm afraid it's not.

Hmm sadly yes...many teachers are not as...motivated...

But perhaps we need to learn to encourage the ones that are...

Céline · 01-05-2010, 03:47 PM

bump

xbusymom · 01-05-2010, 05:03 PM

Super video... we are ALL teachers and students... everyday... learning from others who instruct us, and giving others our wisdom and experience on anything at any given time...

very well said... i am gonna put that on my favorites list on my youtube

Céline · 01-05-2010, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by xbusymom

very well said... i am gonna put that on my favorites list on my youtube

Thank you!

"I make a god damn difference! what about you??"

love it...

Stargazer1965 · 01-05-2010, 05:20 PM

I'm a dad....and I hope I MAKE a difference.

Peace

GREAT VIDEO!!!!

beren · 01-05-2010, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

I'm a dad....and I hope I MAKE a difference.

Peace

GREAT VIDEO!!!!

As long as you catch up your children conversation with other kids(they all must not see you or know that you are listening...OK not suggesting that you spy your kids

) where they say something about you that really makes them proud and that they are loving you because you are their dad... then you really make something. You are making them become men or women...and that is a tough job .

Peace of mind · 01-05-2010, 06:43 PM

Teachers do make a difference, unfortunately much of the material being thought in these organize learning institutes may be detrimental. And it also may be the (disruptive) students subconscious protecting its mind from absorbing the inaccuracies that’s being programmed into the minds of the youth. What’s being cultured in these schools is how to stay confined to their system.

There’s an influx of young bright individuals (probably Indigo and Crystal Children) failing in today’s school systems….ever wonder why? Well, most of us know the body heals itself, so maybe the brains deterrence of this info is seen (by so called professionals) as having a predisposition …therefore naming the child un-teachable and a distraction instead of a thinker or innovator. Something to ponder…

As far as teaching morals, responsibilities and respect for self and others…teachers can, and often do play a big part in that.

Peace

Stargazer1965 · 01-05-2010, 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peace of mind

Teachers do make a difference, unfortunately much of the material being thought in these organize learning institutes may be detrimental. And it also may be the (disruptive) students subconscious protecting its mind from absorbing the inaccuracies that’s being programmed into the minds of the youth. What’s being cultured in these schools is how to stay confined to their system.

There’s an influx of young bright individuals (probably Indigo and Crystal Children) failing in today’s school systems….ever wonder why? Well, most of us know the body heals itself, so maybe the brains deterrence of this info is seen (by so called professionals) as having a predisposition …therefore naming the child un-teachable and a distraction instead of a thinker or innovator. Something to ponder…

As far as teaching morals, responsibilities and respect for self and others…teachers can, and often do play a big part in that.

Peace

That's funny...I had a long conversation with my 5 year old last night about how the dinosaurs really did not die out entirely and that Daddy thought there were still smaller Brontosaurus' in Africa and Pterosaurs in Texas.

Of course when she repeats that in school she'll be laughed at and "corrected" by the teacher.

I'm wrestling with all this as we speak because I'm getting to enroll her in kindergarten.

Thoughts???

Signed CONCERNED DAD

or

SG

Céline · 01-05-2010, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

Thoughts???

Signed CONCERNED DAD

or

SG

A great question...
Honestly, i have very little faith in the public system here in Canada...

i am hoping to help pay for my grandsons private education...which is a step up...but... Homeschool seems to be the best choice if you want to teach your children to follow in your steps...

Stargazer1965 · 01-05-2010, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Céline

A great question...
Honestly, i have very little faith in the public system here in Canada...

i am hoping to help pay for my grandsons private education...which is a step up...but... Homeschool seems to be the best choice if you want to teach your children to follow in your steps...

I am the product of the private school system (catholic) and I have never suffered more abuse and false teachings in my entire life...

Home School it is then....

Thanks Celine....that was easy...lol

Céline · 01-05-2010, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

I am the product of the private school system (catholic) and I have never suffered more abuse and false teachings in my entire life...

Home School it is then....

Thanks Celine....that was easy...lol

Hmm i am very sad to know that happened to you...

Yes perhaps the private school suggestion is not as good as the Home school one...though i am sure there are many horror stories about that as well...just do your best...

beren · 01-05-2010, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

I am the product of the private school system (catholic) and I have never suffered more abuse and false teachings in my entire life...

Home School it is then....

Thanks Celine....that was easy...lol

SG

I am sorry for you and Catholic schooling... makes people puke on the very idea of God and Christ and rest since you wanted or not, connect God to beatings in school or sexual abuse...

I hope that they did not do any of that things to you ...
I hope my friend...

I am maybe a bit off topic here but I had to say my bad on that kind of "schooling" you wrote.

I am sure you are being good dad!

Stargazer1965 · 01-05-2010, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by beren

SG

I am sorry for you and Catholic schooling... makes people puke on the very idea of God and Christ and rest since you wanted or not, connect God to beatings in school or sexual abuse...

I hope that they did not do any of that things to you ...
I hope my friend...

I am maybe a bit off topic here but I had to say my bad on that kind of "schooling" you wrote.

I am sure you are being good dad!

I got the beatings but not the sexual abuse...that was saved for home.

All gone like a long lost nightmare..Peace friends

xbusymom · 01-05-2010, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Stargazer1965

I'm wrestling with all this as we speak because I'm getting to enroll her in kindergarten.

Thoughts???

1)homeschool?
2)or counter act with evening conversations to correct (internet treasure hunting)
3) or bolster up creative thinking with lots of praise and support for individualism.
4) weekend arts and crafts projects (imagination possibilities -what if?)
5) history timeline
6) (find old books/articles for accurate info) ( http://www.accelerated-achievement. com - $100 for full school curriculum k-12 CD)

Stargazer1965 · 01-06-2010, 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xbusymom

1)homeschool?
2)or counter act with evening conversations to correct (internet treasure hunting)
3) or bolster up creative thinking with lots of praise and support for individualism.
4) weekend arts and crafts projects (imagination possibilities -what if?)
5) history timeline
6) (find old books/articles for accurate info) ( http://www.accelerated-achievement. com - $100 for full school curriculum k-12 CD)

Thanks XBM...I'll check out this site!!

Céline · 01-06-2010, 11:46 AM

i am so glad you found some answers on this thread StarGazer...

That is what i believe poetry is for...create a difference, make you think and feel something

xbusymom · 01-07-2010, 04:50 AM

Stargazer,
I also just remembered the free PDF "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" that gives loads of info how we got to this point... and why

http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com.../DDDoA.sml.pdf

Céline · 01-07-2010, 11:44 AM

i am so glad this thread went in this direction.

i wish i had home schooled my kids..Not many teachers out there like Talor Mali.

How old, would the oldest home school graduates be at this point do you think?

Céline · 01-08-2010, 08:36 PM

this video is worth sharing with any teacher, student...or lawyer ..that you might know

THE eXchanger · 01-08-2010, 08:48 PM

we know quite a few people,
who choose home schooling~and, it did make a huge difference

most of the knowledge out there ~ is incomplete/and, is missing

which means, the mother/or the father ~ are always, the best teachers

as, celine says ~ if you can put your truths, into the making,
of the ones, who, when we are old, will be handling this world,
imagine, what a great world, we could be in

we are all for home schooling

my cousin, successfully, home schooled 4 children

and, all of them, are 3.5 out of 4 (in universary today)

1 graduated, and, 3 still going

(also, we believe, continuing educations
like college/trade school/universary, etc.,
should be FREE to everyone)

also, we think, there are a lot of things
kids, should be exposed to
art/music, etc.,
learning to do things with their hands
woodworking- crocheting, knitting, sewing, cooking etc.,
learning how to interact with others
lots of lots of activies, out in nature / as, well as, team sport etc.,

so much, parents can do

when was the last time, you took your kids
out into nature,
or, stopped to listen to crickets/or, loons on a lake,
(who make 3 funny sounds)
or, just stopped to listen to the sound of rocks/and, stones
in a brook/river/or stream

yes, parents can do, so much more, than anyone else can do

your kids, celine; and; richard, are so very lucky
to have the two of you, as, their parents

pretty amasing, we are sure, to become grandparents, etc.,

so much the grandparents, can teach, the children

yet so many of them, are stuffed alone, and, into old age homes

what a world, we are in !!!

ps; once in awhile we go up the street to the old age home,
to take books, etc., locked in there, are some of the greatest people,
one could ever meet - if you ever have idle time on your hands,
go to a place like that, for 1 or 2 hrs

ask at the front desk,
is there anyone in here, who never gets guests,
and, that you would love to go visit them,
we can tell you, some of these,
poor dear old souls ~ will be very happy you stopped by
and/or volunteer a few hours a week, in an old age home
just to help them out

Céline · 01-08-2010, 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE eXchanger

your kids, celine; and; richard, are so very lucky
to have the two of you, as, their parents

pretty amasing, we are sure, to become grandparents, etc.,

so much the grandparents, can teach, the children

Thank you dear..and yes it is a great pleasure to be a grandma as well... and it is a very different role then being a parent...

Shaynard · 01-08-2010, 10:09 PM

My daughter attends public school and she is very quick to question much of what she is being taught. She has been termed a "problem child" at the school because she ''asks too many questions".

This happens because she is taught at home as well. Together we often go over what she's being taught in class and encouraging her to question it. I offer any different points of view I can come up with.

So a combination of home and public schooling seems to be working well for her.

In light, of love
Shaynrd

Céline · 01-17-2010, 10:48 AM

Public school is a mess...worse then the health care system...and i am Canadian!!

01-05-2010, 02:17 AM	#1
haibane Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Prague Posts: 75	Re: What do you make? I taught English to adults for a couple of years, and it is NOT an easy task. I admire all the good teachers (I wish I was one), especially those who face children every working day, since it's an act of bravery, but then again, where I'm from, good teachers are hard to find, the school system is rather hostile and accommodates much better for mediocrity. I wonder if it's any better elsewhere. It is a great vid Céline, I just wish it was about an average, majority teacher. 'Cos I'm afraid it's not.

01-05-2010, 02:58 AM	#2
es7ter Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: down under Posts: 37	Re: What do you make? I would like to add a personal experience and viewpoint on the educational system... When I was in High school it was a nightmare... I would like to add two comments here... 1, fault of the system (the teachers did not know better) 2, I am grateful for those times, because they made me who I am today. So when I was there, in those days all I’ve got out of it was intimidation and a fear based hierarchy system. And both of those are hard to deal with for an indigo kid. The system is wrong and outdated, because the overcrowded classrooms and the curriculum are both useless. There was a lot of stress on our teachers and so they acted out fear of underperforming children and the pressure from the head master, who would have been better off as an army officer, rather than a positive authority figure for children. And even tho I find it easy to learn massive amount of information quickly and sufficiently, the whole thing was a catalyst to rebel and wanting to destroy the system that caused us children so much grief over the years. It was separating us from each other. Those kids, whose parents were donating money to the school, were always safe from intimidation and even bad marks. My parents weren’t, so for me it was a struggle being bright, yet non-conforming. Until this day I feel strongly about the public school systems and its dangers to society. It just won’t cut it any longer. I sincerely hope, that what the indigos came to change (old systems) and re-build with the help of the crystals arriving, we can have an educational system for all, that is not based on corruption, fear and intimidation, but on true values, integrity and enough space for the left and right brained children to learn life skills as well as academic knowledge and develop into confident and smart individuals. A system, that brings joy to the teachers and students equally. I am proud of being different now, but God knows, just how happy I was finishing up and never looking back. Maybe that’s what I needed, the stimulus, to go against and stay gifted, rather than conform and die, like a caged bird, which never learned to fly. Thank God for the gifted and those, who dare to teach them with patience and love!

01-05-2010, 03:47 PM	#4
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: What do you make? bump

01-05-2010, 05:03 PM	#5
xbusymom Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Overland Park (Kansas City) Kansas, USA Posts: 233	Re: What do you make? Super video... we are ALL teachers and students... everyday... learning from others who instruct us, and giving others our wisdom and experience on anything at any given time... very well said... i am gonna put that on my favorites list on my youtube

01-05-2010, 05:20 PM	#7
Stargazer1965 Hall Monitor Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Midwest Posts: 733	Re: What do you make? I'm a dad....and I hope I MAKE a difference. Peace GREAT VIDEO!!!!

01-05-2010, 06:43 PM	#9
Peace of mind Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: The uncharted consciousness Posts: 311	Re: What do you make? Teachers do make a difference, unfortunately much of the material being thought in these organize learning institutes may be detrimental. And it also may be the (disruptive) students subconscious protecting its mind from absorbing the inaccuracies that’s being programmed into the minds of the youth. What’s being cultured in these schools is how to stay confined to their system. There’s an influx of young bright individuals (probably Indigo and Crystal Children) failing in today’s school systems….ever wonder why? Well, most of us know the body heals itself, so maybe the brains deterrence of this info is seen (by so called professionals) as having a predisposition …therefore naming the child un-teachable and a distraction instead of a thinker or innovator. Something to ponder… As far as teaching morals, responsibilities and respect for self and others…teachers can, and often do play a big part in that. Peace

01-06-2010, 11:46 AM	#18
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: What do you make? i am so glad you found some answers on this thread StarGazer... That is what i believe poetry is for...create a difference, make you think and feel something

01-07-2010, 04:50 AM	#19
xbusymom Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Overland Park (Kansas City) Kansas, USA Posts: 233	Re: What do you make? Stargazer, I also just remembered the free PDF "The Deliberate Dumbing Down of America" that gives loads of info how we got to this point... and why http://www.deliberatedumbingdown.com.../DDDoA.sml.pdf

01-07-2010, 11:44 AM	#20
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: What do you make? i am so glad this thread went in this direction. i wish i had home schooled my kids..Not many teachers out there like Talor Mali. How old, would the oldest home school graduates be at this point do you think?

01-08-2010, 08:36 PM	#21
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: What do you make? this video is worth sharing with any teacher, student...or lawyer ..that you might know

01-08-2010, 08:48 PM	#22
THE eXchanger Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Spiritual eXplorer-Canada Posts: 4,915	Re: What do you make? we know quite a few people, who choose home schooling~and, it did make a huge difference most of the knowledge out there ~ is incomplete/and, is missing which means, the mother/or the father ~ are always, the best teachers as, celine says ~ if you can put your truths, into the making, of the ones, who, when we are old, will be handling this world, imagine, what a great world, we could be in we are all for home schooling my cousin, successfully, home schooled 4 children and, all of them, are 3.5 out of 4 (in universary today) 1 graduated, and, 3 still going (also, we believe, continuing educations like college/trade school/universary, etc., should be FREE to everyone) also, we think, there are a lot of things kids, should be exposed to art/music, etc., learning to do things with their hands woodworking- crocheting, knitting, sewing, cooking etc., learning how to interact with others lots of lots of activies, out in nature / as, well as, team sport etc., so much, parents can do when was the last time, you took your kids out into nature, or, stopped to listen to crickets/or, loons on a lake, (who make 3 funny sounds) or, just stopped to listen to the sound of rocks/and, stones in a brook/river/or stream yes, parents can do, so much more, than anyone else can do your kids, celine; and; richard, are so very lucky to have the two of you, as, their parents pretty amasing, we are sure, to become grandparents, etc., so much the grandparents, can teach, the children yet so many of them, are stuffed alone, and, into old age homes what a world, we are in !!! ps; once in awhile we go up the street to the old age home, to take books, etc., locked in there, are some of the greatest people, one could ever meet - if you ever have idle time on your hands, go to a place like that, for 1 or 2 hrs ask at the front desk, is there anyone in here, who never gets guests, and, that you would love to go visit them, we can tell you, some of these, poor dear old souls ~ will be very happy you stopped by and/or volunteer a few hours a week, in an old age home just to help them out Last edited by THE eXchanger; 01-08-2010 at 08:52 PM.

01-08-2010, 10:09 PM	#24
Shaynard Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Toronto Canada Posts: 161	Re: What do you make? My daughter attends public school and she is very quick to question much of what she is being taught. She has been termed a "problem child" at the school because she ''asks too many questions". This happens because she is taught at home as well. Together we often go over what she's being taught in class and encouraging her to question it. I offer any different points of view I can come up with. So a combination of home and public schooling seems to be working well for her. In light, of love Shaynrd

01-17-2010, 10:48 AM	#25
Céline Avalon Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: Canada Posts: 1,285	Re: What do you make? Public school is a mess...worse then the health care system...and i am Canadian!!