The Great Gathering...Miriam Delicado...Hopi Message

[mntruthseeker]

Originally Posted by hobbit

Is it just Me?
This woman drives me nuts, She can say a thousand words , without any information at all, a total politician?
I don't understand what She is about.
There may be a great gathering, but I suspect the answer will be 42, and everyone will be left flat.
hobbit

No, I feel the same way. I like her and feel that she is on a mission but it does drive me absolutely crazy. One big secret and I believe she is in a position to know more and is withholding it. I head someone call in on C2C and correct her on a point.

So, she is holding back because she is being told to or she just doesnt know as much as she wishes.

But I will give her credit for actually doing something to get something done for all of us. So its all good

I have all my life, felt it did one a real injustice to put another down and the minute I hear a speaker do this, I cringe.

She has repeatly accused others of "selling out lies" and they do not know because only the Hopi know including some of the Mayans. They do not associate with each other any longer. That is the only thing I find hard to swallow. It pushes me away

I believe that there are others that know and I have personally been acquainted with her. She has written books and it says a whole lot more than what Miriam has ever said.

Like, I do respect her and believe her, she really should not just say, we are to only believe and trust her. I believe the Hopi are not alone in the knowledge or secret.

[wynderer]

i have to say this -- re the comments about 'nothing new' in what Miriam Delicado had to say -- it reminds me of kids, buying more & more new video games; or an addict getting stronger & stronger drugs, trying to get that original high -- in this case, it's the truth high, it seems

if one is really trying to live a life of love, compassion, truth -- it's not boring, & one doesn't need a video fix to keep going -- a talk like Miriam's is encouraging -- we need to encourage one another right now

Peace & Freedom, wynderer

[viking]

What did you all think of the interview with Kerry the other day?

"Miriam Delicado on Project Camelot/Whistleblower Radio" with Host Kerry Cassidy, December 24, 2009 - 2-Hours.
http://projectcamelot.org/2009-Dec-2...m_Delicado.mp3

viking

[waitinginthewings]

Originally Posted by viking

What did you all think of the interview with Kerry the other day?

"Miriam Delicado on Project Camelot/Whistleblower Radio" with Host Kerry Cassidy, December 24, 2009 - 2-Hours.
http://projectcamelot.org/2009-Dec-2...m_Delicado.mp3

viking

tks for posting this here. I do want to listen to it now

Ok... I tried, but got this message:

CAMELOT-MEDIA1
404 NOT FOUND

[viking]

Originally Posted by waitinginthewings

tks for posting this here. I do want to listen to it now

Ok... I tried, but got this message:

CAMELOT-MEDIA1
404 NOT FOUND

Try this Waiting...

http://216.18.211.130/audio/2009-Dec...m_Delicado.mp3

viking

[Anita]

Miriams message gives me a lot of peace. I stand outside in the moonlit winter night under a pinetree covered in snow, looking at the earths horizon. And I think of you all who are here on this planet, and I feel we are connecting.

[mntruthseeker]

Originally Posted by wynderer

i have to say this -- re the comments about 'nothing new' in what Miriam Delicado had to say -- it reminds me of kids, buying more & more new video games; or an addict getting stronger & stronger drugs, trying to get that original high -- in this case, it's the truth high, it seems

if one is really trying to live a life of love, compassion, truth -- it's not boring, & one doesn't need a video fix to keep going -- a talk like Miriam's is encouraging -- we need to encourage one another right now

Peace & Freedom, wynderer

Well, to each their own, but I personally have not gotten one thing out of any of her interviews. So, please do not compare me to a kid with new toys.

If we are going to be told to listen to an hour interview, of course we will expect more than just have hope and this is going to happen and to not listen to this one or that.

So for you to come out and say her speaking was encouraging, I would like to know what she added. I heard nothing new and I am not afraid to stand up and say tell us something more than do not believe anyone but me and we are having a great gathering.

If I want to get new toys BTW, I know where to get them.

[hobbit]

Originally Posted by wynderer

i have to say this -- re the comments about 'nothing new' in what Miriam Delicado had to say -- it reminds me of kids, buying more & more new video games; or an addict getting stronger & stronger drugs, trying to get that original high -- in this case, it's the truth high, it seems

if one is really trying to live a life of love, compassion, truth -- it's not boring, & one doesn't need a video fix to keep going -- a talk like Miriam's is encouraging -- we need to encourage one another right now

Peace & Freedom, wynderer

I see, so I am compared to an addict am I?
I have to accept that this woman is saying something , or else I am a video game crazed junky, hmmmm.
As for telling that if We are trying to live a life of love , compassion, truth that We don't need a video fix to keep going, I for one am in no need of any fix, thank You, but equally I am in no need of listening to garbage, and in a free world feel it right to express whatever, warts and all.

The fanfare of revelation leading up to the lady's appearance on coast to coast and subsequent interview with Kerry were decieving in their content, there was no content that I could percieve.
Hobbit, never even smoked a cigarette.

[sjkted]

Originally Posted by mntruthseeker

No, I feel the same way. I like her and feel that she is on a mission but it does drive me absolutely crazy. One big secret and I believe she is in a position to know more and is withholding it. I head someone call in on C2C and correct her on a point.

So, she is holding back because she is being told to or she just doesnt know as much as she wishes.

But I will give her credit for actually doing something to get something done for all of us. So its all good

I have all my life, felt it did one a real injustice to put another down and the minute I hear a speaker do this, I cringe.

She has repeatly accused others of "selling out lies" and they do not know because only the Hopi know including some of the Mayans. They do not associate with each other any longer. That is the only thing I find hard to swallow. It pushes me away

I believe that there are others that know and I have personally been acquainted with her. She has written books and it says a whole lot more than what Miriam has ever said.

Like, I do respect her and believe her, she really should not just say, we are to only believe and trust her. I believe the Hopi are not alone in the knowledge or secret.

I've been through this in questioning what she is doing. At this point, I think that she really needs some media training as much of her message is being lost in the way she communicates.

--sjkted

[always]

I thought the interview was excellent. Because the material is new to many people, they may not be relating to it as well, but it you listen to the end I think you gain a new perspective as far as what is going on in the world.

Anyway...

I want to quote from a part of the interview where Miriam talks about certain people preventing the Hopi and Mayan from coming together in April, 2009, then add some additional internet material as background. Let me know what you think?

Beginning at 56:18 Min. into Miriam's Dec. 24th interview with Kerry Cassidy on "Camelot Radio" is the following http://projectcamelot.org/2009-Dec-2...m_Delicado.mp3:

MIRIAM: ...The Hopis and the Mayans tried to contact each other during that event in April ["Gathering of the Ancestors", April, 2009] and the organizers of that event and the Hopi people that involved themselves publicly wih that event; from the Water Clan specifically, did not allow for that meeting to take place between the Traditional Leadership... ...

...all of those [Hopi] Tranditional Kiva Leaders and Chiefs and Representatives came together and made a decision collectively as they do in tradition, and said "No", they were not going to participate, but when they tried to reach the Mayans in that event, they couldn't even get the phone number to the head of the Mayan Council in order to have that conversation. THey were physically stopped. ...

At one point a Hopi Elder went to Tuba City during that event and tried to speak to the head of the Mayan council on his own. And he was told by the organizer that he could not and would not be allowed to speak to anyone from South America, period... No Hopi would speak to anyone in South America unless they went through him. ... And I was given permission by that particular Elder to make that statement publicly, to bring clarification. ...

KERRY: ... Is it possible to say the name of the organization that stood in between... ...

MIRIAM: Institute for Cultural Awareness, I-C-A.

(end of radio segment)

And here's the background information...

ICA is headed by Adam Yellowbird, aka Adam DeArmon. Adam is a white man. Here is what the Manataka tribe in Arkansas posted about him http://www.manataka.org/page1084.html:

A Case In Point - More Information Obtained

In April 2009, Adam "Yellowbird" DeArmon, who heads up a million-dollar organization called "The Institute for Cultural Awareness" (ICA) located near Sedona engaged the services of Ruben Saufkie, Sr., a Hopi tribal member, to help him organize the "Return of the Ancestors" Gathering and attract more paying participants in "sacred ceremonies". It was the widely advertised intention of DeArmon and Saufkie to take dozens of bus loads and long caravans of cars to ancient sacred sites located on the Hopi Reservation. The Hopi Nation formerly notified both DeArmon and Saufkie in writing months before that the Gathering would not be allowed on Hopi land. But, DeArmon continued to sell high-dollar reservations to unsuspecting participants for months via the Internet and by U.S. Mail with full knowledge that the ceremonies would not take place.

DeArmon and his supporters claim the Hopi Nation and its spiritual elders denied entry to their sacred sites because "ceremonial protocol was broken". Yes, that is partly true. But DeArmon and his ICA supporters fail to mention specifics of their actions that precipitated the strong Hopi back-lash. Telling a different story, Ruben Saufkie claims that Hopi "politics" is the reason why ceremonies were prohibited. Saufkie says he is a "progressive leader" and the traditional elders are against him. DeArmon and his supporters now say "...the Hopi are not as important as many people think..."[emphasis added]

DeArmon also advertised ceremonies allegedly to take place at the Northern Arizona University during the Return of the Ancestors Gathering with prestigious elders and educators. However, months before the event was planned to take place, DeArmon was notified in writing that NAU would not allow event to take place on university property. This is another event during the "Return of the Ancestors" Gathering that was cancelled and DeArmon had full knowledge of this months before the event was to take place. DeArmon is silent on the subject of NAU's denial. Regardless of these facts, DeArmon and Saufkie continued their masquerade as hundreds of thousands of dollars poured into DeArmon's bank.

The ICA website challenged paying guests to the Return of the Ancestors Gathering to anti-up 1.5 million dollars to hear so-called spiritual elders, primarily from Mexico and South America, pontificate about prophesy, ways to achieve peace and participate in "sacred ceremonies". After his initial goal was reached, DeArmon increased his demand to 3 million dollars to "...Create a social impact like no other!..." The ICA website also says, "All donations are completely tax deductible and go towards the gathering."

A long-time ICA supporter and associate of DeArmon is a man living in Sedona who goes by the alias, Drunvalo Melchizedek. Melchizedek says on his website that "Every penny you gave to the ICA, either for tickets or donations, went to the elders in the form of airline tickets, bussing, shelter, food etc,...."

That is an interesting statement coming from an ICA insider. The Institute for Cultural Awareness' goal was to sponsor 72 or more global spiritual/cultural leaders and 28 youth council leaders. Even though many invited speakers drove to the event, let's pretend that 100 airline tickets were purchased at an extremely high cost of $3,000.00 each, thus the bill would be $300,000. That leaves over a million dollars to feed and house the speakers.

Eye-witnesses say that invited elders were begging participants to buy them blankets because they were cold from staying in make-shift quarters and many complained to participants that they were hungry. Hundreds of paying participants wandered around for hours trying to find advertised events. Food was not available at stated times and places. Emergency services and first-aid stations were not available for some people who got sick. It appeared to many ticket buyers the main concern of the strong-arm security staff was preventing anyone from recording the event. Many people were frisked and threatened about taking "authorized" pictures. A horde of paid photographers, video crews and equipment, security staff, and hawkers blocked the view of for many. Schedules were changed without notice and no printed schedules were available for most participants.

Promoters of the Return of the Ancestors Gathering disregarded the safety and welfare of ticket holders and violated numerous state laws. The ICA and Adam DeArmon committed fraud by continuing to sell tickets and accepting cash donations for events they knew would not take place. Local and state law enforcement officials have a responsibility to investigate these claims.

After light began to show through the thin veil of the million-dollar scam, DeArmon disabled most areas of his website and the only area that appears to be open is page titled "501(c)(3) Donations" http://www.instituteforculturalawareness.com/ http://www.ica8.org DeArmon did respond once to our emails asking for his comments, but his only response was, "That is not the truth." He failed to answer subsequent email questions asking what is the truth and what is not the truth. DeArmon is difficult to reach for a statement, but he promises on his website that "the work will continue". We hope not.

(end of text)

FYI, Adam Yellowbird is scheduled to be at the "Conscious Life Expo" in Los Angeles, California, February 12-15, 2010 http://lightparty.com/blog/?page_id=359

Here is how he is described in the linked page:

"Adam Yellowbird is a highly respected messenger for the Mayan Elders and other South American indigenous people. Adam is president of The Institute For Cultural Awareness and member of The Continental Council Of Indigenous Elders And Spirit Guides Of The Americas. He created “The Return Of the Ancestors Gathering” in the spring of 2009 in Arizona. He will be sharing his wisdom and insights during our panel discussions."

Drunvalo Melchizedek is mentioned in the Manataka text cited above, and here is what Drunvalo said about the Hopi on his website following the "Gathering of the Ancesters" http://spiritofmaat.com/june09/rota_2009_prophecy.html:

"But what about the Hopi?

"As far as this convening above is concerned, I believe that the Hopi were not as important as many thought. Why? Because the Hopi are Maya, and came from the Maya out of Guatemala long ago. Both tribes know and acknowledge this. What needed to happen was that the Maya and the Inner Circle of Atlantis, the Kogi Mamos and the Arhauco Mamos convene - and that happened. It would have probably felt better if the Hopi had joined, but as far as the Mayan prophecy is concerned, the Hopi Traditional leaders were asked to attend, but their absence does not fail the Mayan Prophecy." [emphasis added]

Drunvalo like Adam is a white man. Drunvalo is a representative of one of the Mayan Councils; there are a number of Mayan Councils, I believe.

So what does this material point to? That all depends on where you think these two guys are coming from. Are they fulfilling their organizational functions from the heart, but merely in a careless or less than satisfactory manner, or is there some other agenda? You decide?

By the way, the Hopi and the Maya were originally the same people. Drunvalo is correct about that, and Miriam spoke about this in her C2C interview, Part 6 on YouTube at about 2:12 Min. into the program http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67OvgRKb2HE.

IMO, the Hopi and the Maya can never truly be separated and will come together for THE GREAT GATHERING.

[mntruthseeker]

Thank you so much Always......I am so glad that you cleared this up. In fact I had wondered if she was refering to Drunvalo when she made such remarks.

Yes, she really should of explained more of this as it would of made more sense. In fact when Drunvalo came out he also said he was "picked" to be their speaker. I do believe him and found his information very inspirational. Miriam does not make that claim, she says she got messages from Tall Blueeyed Blondes not the Hopi Elders hereself. Can you understand my confusion when she says not to listen to others ?

Personally, I think the Mayan and Hopi are both important. Although I feel we are all important in what happens and Miriam did express that when she talked about the way we feel. That is our reason for meditating and praying.

I think its underhand to consider any one of as not being important. We all have our own important role to do. One thing we do not need is such a huge disagreement. Its a time to get together.

Most of us are aware how our "feelings" and "thoughts" matter. That is the secret that will set us free.

Thank you for all the information you included as that was greatly appreciated.

[Aztar]

Originally Posted by always

"But what about the Hopi?

"As far as this convening above is concerned, I believe that the Hopi were not as important as many thought. Why? Because the Hopi are Maya, and came from the Maya out of Guatemala long ago. Both tribes know and acknowledge this. What needed to happen was that the Maya and the Inner Circle of Atlantis, the Kogi Mamos and the Arhauco Mamos convene - and that happened. It would have probably felt better if the Hopi had joined, but as far as the Mayan prophecy is concerned, the Hopi Traditional leaders were asked to attend, but their absence does not fail the Mayan Prophecy." [emphasis added]

Drunvalo also said this which i found interesting.

The Hopi did not join, even though they really wanted to, because, according to the Hopi themselves, the ceremonial protocol was broken by the non-profit organizers of the gathering, and it had nothing to do with the Maya or any of the Elders that were there. They were completely innocent.

When different tribal groups attempt to come together for ceremony, they must follow strict ceremonial protocol, and if it is not performed exactly according to their laws, then it cannot happen. And that is exactly what happened.
To be clear, almost all of the people that I met at the Gathering were there to support the Mayan Council of Elders of Guatemala and the elders that were being called to come to the Gathering. We supported the ICA because they were selected to be the organizers of the gathering by the Mayan Council of Elders of Guatemala. The elders themselves had almost nothing to do with how the organization of the gathering was performed. It was the responsibility of the ICA. [emphasis added]

Its also interesting that given everything Miriam Delicado has accused Drunvalo of, he still is willing to promote her and help her with sales of her book on his website: http://spiritofmaat.com/feb08/alien_blue_star.html

Drunvalo also helps promote Miriam on his website with a Audio Interview here : http://spiritofmaat.com/feb08/blue_star_interview.html

if nothing else, its interesting.

[mntruthseeker]

Yes it is interesting indeed. I sure hope that the next time we hear from Miriam, that we hear more on this.

Not only from her but others involved. It really is not what we want or need at this time

[TimeTraveler]

I don't think I have been more disappointed in an interview on Avalon as I was with this one, a lot promised and nothing but fresh air delivered, I understand the message and its value but unfortunately its no more important that any thread here on Avalon.

I am open to all things, and absorbing all information without judgment, this interview pushed me to the limits, I doubt Miriam prepares for interviews but I don't think it translates into anything groundbreaking.

I understand how difficult it is representing the Hopi people, but if we are in such difficult times and the Hopi are not offering information it means they do not really truly want to help us? Are they waiting for something important to trigger an important message ??? Its almost like being in victim consciousness to me.

We create the universe simply by perception, we are now being bombarded in negative prophecy 24 hours 7 days a week (movies,media,Internet, pandemics )thus creating mass consciousness expecting a 2012 disaster ...... The Hopi know this but where are they ??? In silence

I think the best part of the interview was the slip of the tongue comment, Miriam calling the Hopi system like a secret society.

In Lak'ech

[hobbit]

Maybe?, the computer that the computer built is called .....Miriam.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aboZctrHfK8
I know just how deflated the crowd felt.
Hobbit

[stargate22]

Okay, I got it..."Where ever you go, there you are"...I knew it was that simple!!!!


I knew it...I knew it...I knew it!!

[mntruthseeker]

GOOD ANSWER HOBBIT

[viking]

Just found this on my travels...seems to resonate with Miriams message...

Great Lightworkers of the World,

I come before you today to speak with you about the vast changes that are taking place within your physical, mental, emotional, spiritual and etheric bodies. It is very exhilarating for we from the Higher Light realms to observe what is transpiring within each of you. It is like a chain reaction that is occurring now.more and more people are awakening from the dream that was imposed upon them from the moment of their birth into the Earth level of existence and are now steadily regaining their knowledge and awareness and are once again beginning to shine the truth of their Light. The Earth is lighting up in the Heavens, Great Ones, and so we ask of you to continue in your great work upon the Earth planes. We are so grateful and filled with joy to work in unison with you and it is such a joy to see each of the Lightworkers working together throughout the World in orchestrated efforts to bring in the Higher energies and anchor them firmly into Mother Earth.
Well done, Great Ones, and keep on keeping on!

I would like you to know that I am available to all who call upon me, ask me to bring down the Irridescent Light into all areas of your chakras and consciousness and I will immediately do so. This will help you to stay centered with your chakras cleansed and purified of all discordant energy that no longer belongs in your five body systems. This is my great gift to you all at this time of great cleansing and purging that is taking place upon this Planet and within your physical, mental, emotional and etheric (spiritual) bodies. Each of you is growing in stature into the True Beings of Light that you are and it is my supreme pleasure to be of assistance to you in this way. I am happy to see that I am now becoming a Universal Being of Light who is recognized and accepted by all upon the Earth and the Cosmos. As we of the Higher Realms have also experienced lifetimes upon the Earth, we are very cognizant of the difficulties that Humanity is passing through
at this time and we can add greatly to alleviating your symptoms and distresses of daily life. Just call upon us by our names and we are instantly alerted and are at your side.

It is a gathering time upon your Planet for all the Great Ones to come together in unison to work towards the Highest good of all and to bring your beautiful Planet Earth to a Higher state of Being. We encourage all our Beloved Lightworkers, the front line Team based upon the Earth to gather together in common purpose as often as guided by your Higher Selves and Great I AM Presences to create the Grace necessary to help the Earth in her expansion into the Star Being she is destined to become once again and to raise the frequency levels of the mass consciousness grids to enable your beloved Brothers and Sisters of Earth to awaken from the deep slumber they have been subjected to as they entered this World and to start to take back what is and always has been their Divine right and heritage, their sovereignty and freedom of choice. Truly this is a most exciting time to be alive and manifesting upon the Planet, for right at your doorstep is a time of great
change and unfoldment. And each of you is an integral part of this change, and you are all honored for your courage and your strength and persistence in the face of great resistance to your efforts.

The time has come for all Lightworkers of the World to move into their Divine Missions and take their places in readiness to complete the true purpose of their coming to the Earth, which is and has always been, to re-establish the right and Light of Humanity to reclaim their lost heritage and this is now in its process of fulfillment. We Love and honor each of you for your work and commitment. Know that we are all working in unison in the Higher dimensions to bring about this great transformation not only for the Earth and all of Humanity but for the entire Universe beyond.

I AM Ganesh

viking